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Absurd is kinda like the Shotgun Blues of the four - punk attitude
Hard Skool is the You Could Be Mine - old school GN'R
Perhaps is the Breakdown - old school GN'R
The General is the My World - experimental and not like anything else from the past.

Before someone misunderstands what I said, I didn't compare the songs. Just pointing out that GN'R has released songs that don't sound the same in the past, and that's why some prefer one song to another.




/jarmo

Agreed.  'Perhaps' far and away the best of those 4 tunes.

best? perhaps the one with the most commercial potential, in the sense that it's probably the most
recognizable song as being from Guns N' Roses as established since the '90s for the general public.

But in terms of artistic creativity, The General is far superior.

No one knows.

I suspect the four singles might have been a combination of things. The songs were written and recorded. It fit their schedule to rework them before the tours in 2021 and 2023.

Will that be true for the next songs, whenever they release them? Who knows.




/jarmo

Is it fair to ask the question that the songs that GNR have released in the last couple of years a way for AXL to clean out the cubbard so to say on ChiDEm era songs that he may have liked and wanted to get out there. And Any new music that comes out is going to be by this version of the band meaning obviously Axl,Slash and Duff and Dizzy since he has been there as long as anyone at this point but full contributions by the likes of Richard, Melissa and Frank.

Agreed.  'Perhaps' far and away the best of those 4 tunes.

Did you guys see this?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/12/31/guns-n-roses-bring-their-most-recent-single-back-to-the-charts/





/jarmo

That is a nice surprise. Perhaps is a great song, my personal favorite for what the band has  released since CD.

Did you guys see this?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/12/31/guns-n-roses-bring-their-most-recent-single-back-to-the-charts/





/jarmo

Also worth noting is that when songs we consider classics now, were released, they weren't necessarily universally liked.

I wonder how many people went to get beers or visit the bathroom in the summer of 1991 before the Illusions were released, when the band played some of those new tracks.







/jarmo

Spoke too soon.  Got up at 11 to a text from my daughter she was at urgent care with her husband.  Figured I better get dressed.  10 minutes later, they are sending him to the ER.  I run out the door to get the baby from them.  They didn't get home until 9.  Possible mild heart attack or stroke but he also has fluid in his sinuses.  He stabilized so they sent him home.  Has to get an MRI and see the neurologist.

Needless to say my evening plans were cancelled.  My sister sent me a picture of the piece of meat she got with her dinner.  Looked like some animal's penius and the balls.     The SIL agreed but he's on drugs.  I'm going to meet her for brunch at the casino in the morning.  I don't think I have ever missed the Rose Parade.

Our forecast for Sunday is 13 inches with sleet and ice.  We are so not equipped for that.  It will shut down St Louis for days.  Plus the temps are way below freezing.  Holding out for they got the forecast wrong but no big deal, I'll just stay home.  Better figure out that Patriot solar power battery charger just in case.

Sandy finally responded to my text.  Said there were so many football games.     All is well at Susan's (at the moment  ).

Happy New Year!  I hope all your dreams come true.     I don't plan on starting a new thread for 2025.  It's a little weird with so many hits and nobody talking but me.  In person, I'm rather quite if you can believe that.

There will be a large cohort that would dish it regardless because it won’t be as good as Appetite or Illusions etc a lot of their fanbase are stuck in the early 90s mainly because of their age demographic and lack of output from the band which has kept them in a sort of time warp, now you could say the same thing about a lot of other bands from their era but bands like ACDC and Metallica have continued to release new albums and work the songs into the setlist which keeps it fresh for them and the fans ,hopefully GnR are thinking that way aswell after releasing 4 good songs and playing them live which had a positive impact on their gigs

And here's the rub:

It could be as good as AFD or Illusions.

And people will still dis it, or say it's not, because it's just not going to have the same kind of impact.  The material could be groundbreakingly good....and it will be consumed by a much smaller audience than AFD was back in the 80s and Illusions was in the 90s.  The media isn't going to tell them it's good, so they will yell that it's not...because it didn't sell what AFD or UYI 1/2 did.  They will guage quality by metrics that just aren't realistic anymore, instead of realistic ones based on cultural habits RIGHT NOW.  Watch and see.

I have bad news for those people: Rock is not king anymore.  It's just not the cultural monster it was back then.  Someone else said it's about time, and having a limited amount of time to have impact.  I disagree with that, specifically (because we've seen generational talents pivot with the times and stay relevant), but I agree that functionally it can work that way, because musical tastes change, and it can be VERY hard for acts to change their voice to match "current hotness".  And tastes tend to move slowly...and then stick there for a long time.

We are in the age of the pop princesses, squarely.  Probably right in the middle of it.  And we have been in it for about a decade or so.  People aren't showing signs of moving off it, yet.  We have awhile more of Tay Tay, Beyonce, Sabrina, et al dominating the charts and the headlines (and ticket sales). And GnR isn't going to penetrate that bubble, no matter what they release, no matter how good it is, no matter how much we all want it to.

Maybe by 2030 we'll start to move a bit to something else.  Until then, rock acts are not going to get the same exposure they did.  And we have to sort of adjust our expectations and metrics for success to match where we are, not where we were, or where we wish we were.