Here Today... Gone To Hell!

I heard trough a good source(Universal) the greatest hits album is scheduled for March.
Sad news is also that Universal is putting out the record without approval of
the band.
Universal have also given up the CD record. This could really mean the end for the band.
This is 100% , please don?t kill the messanger.
/Johan

 ::)..sorry but i dont beleive a word of that....Any record company who puts in millions into making a record wouldent just give up.. :peace:

Nah, I don't believe it.  :no:

although mtv do have that info...(care of gnr_flyers on newgnr.com)

http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/guns_n_roses/359014/album.jhtml

mtv have not released any 'news' of the release, so i'm not yet convinced it's definate.

I can't say I'll be shocked, because this is exactly what I've been expecting.

Yeah i saw that link on mtv a couple of days ago and i was confused, probably just a mistake though....A greatest hits would be so stupid, especially if they stick with the tracklisting of the earlier one.

Oh look a one post wonder claiming GNR has finished!

If u have nothing better to do than come to a GNR board and spread lies i really feel sorry for u

Fuck You

when did gnr sign with universal dip shit?

gnr are on interscope/geffen, not universal!

Ive heard that Aerosmith are doing a new greatest hits at last been like 3 months since the last one

aerosmith are set to release an original blues cd next, no greatest hits cd!

 i was taking the piss my friend

Why is it that one post wonders are shot down in flames when they bring good news, but taken seriously when it's bad news?   Us GnR fans are too negative.

Haha, thats the same thing I was thinking.

geffen, interscope, A&M plus many more are under Universal.  Eventhough recently geffen are headfing back out on there own they will still be ditributed by universal.  

No, bullshitters like Johan have no imagination, gimme a break... ::)

-PEACE-

Someone's gonna kill me for posting this, so I'll keep it as intentionally vague as possible while still doing me best to quell any fears.

Trust me when I tell you this: There will be no Greatest Hits release in March, regardless of what Universal claims to have 'scheduled' - there is a BIG difference between scheduling and actually doing something.  In a few weeks, hopefully, this will make alot more sense.

As for the rest of what he said - unless something's changed in the last week or so, Universal hasn't 'given up' on CD anymore than I've 'given up' on obsessing over Jennifer Tilly.  So, in the words of the immortal Douglas Adams, "Don't Panic!"

-darknemus

Imagine the guide's entry for CD :rofl:

Oh no you dont. If this is Johan from 2TI, he's a long time poster. Just because he doesnt post here doesnt mean he's full of shit. He also had this own GNR website based in Sweden or Denmark. I think it was Sweden. But, it might be a different Johan.

Now, I know GNR are signed to Interscope/Geffen, but when I go to a record store, any GNR album got a Universal sticker on it, even Live Era. When I bought new copies of my CD's 4-5 years ago, that sticker wasnt there. I dont know the connection, but my guess is that Interscope/Geffen are the level below a huge firm as Universal.

We will see Jimmy Hoffa before we see a GH album, but that doesnt mean he's a lying bitch. He's just posting what someone told him.

Back when Illusion came out, they set it up as a GH release then as well only to change it later. As apart of a smart little promotion trick or whatever.

Oh... I?m so sorry, dear one post wonder... You?re in the wrong forum... please go to one of those rumors-specialized foruns..  :rant:


Edit:
Sorry Will, but rumor spreading people makes me really angry...

Wow!!! :nervous: :confused: ???

I can't believe how many people just got away with calling this dude names, insulting him and telling him to fuck off.

WTF??? :no:

I guess I was right about some people getting preferential 'Fuck-Off' rights and the rest of us having to sit back and suck on it. :rant: [puke]

To get back on topic, if it's true then who gives a shit? :rant:

Doesn't mean it's the end of GNR either. :rant:

I personally don't think it's gonna happen and it wouldn't surprise me if it's just another ploy by Axl and company to throw people off the real scent.

The real scent being the new album coming out this year man.  :yes: : ok: :beer: :drool: :peace:

Guys, please avoid this kind of comments on that board.

I don't understand why everyone thinks this is so unrealistic.  Forget about being "just" a fan of this band for a second.  There's a lot of bands out there who I wouldn't buy one of their albums, but if they put out a "Greatest Hits" I'd probably buy it.  No one except for a die-hard Gn'R fan would buy a greatest hits CD with songs like (for example) "Bad Apples" or "Estranged" on it.  Non die-hards want a compilation of songs they're familiar with, i.e. SCOM, WTTJ, Patience etc.  IF you love the songs that don't (or didn't) get frequent airtime, then you probably already own all of the CD's!!!!

The record company HAS to do something to make money off of Axl, and if Chinese D isn't coming out, then this is a logical thing to do.  Everyone keeps saying "They wouldn't want to piss Axl off."  How do we know that he hasn't pissed off the record company numerous times already to get to this point?!?

Just my two cents....

I dont buy this rumor but on a sidenote:


Is it possible gnr and the record company are calling CHinese democracy, greatist hits, for disguise purposes? Just so it doesnt get much hype and people wont leak it? So lets say they tell the people who press the records this is the greatest hits cd, so no1 is really gonna care, then after the majority of the pressing is done they announce that cd will be coming out instead of the "greatest HIts". Is someting liek that possible or would the people who press the records be able to tell if its the greatest hit or cd?

I am back again, i didn?t mean to dissapoint you guys.
I cannot name my source but he?s high ranked Universal boss.
He knows I love GNR. Last time they had a relase date for CD was almost 2 years ago, at that point they recived new Dates from the States every quarter.
Suddenly there were no more dates.
He also asked the States if the relase of "greatest hits" had anything to do with
CD as a promotion campaing, the answer was NO!!!!!
They want to get some money back after all investment put into CD.
He also mentioned that if CD was such a great record it would have been relased years ago, otherwise he had no other explanation.
If they were to show up in Rio, we are probally going to see the same set list again I guess.
Guns forever/Johan

Doesn't make much sense to me.

Why didn't they release it in November to make sure they can benefit from the Christmas sales?

Sure, CD could be so bad that Interscope doesn't want to release it. But I'm not sure a Greatest Hits would sell much either.



/jarmo

This probably isn't true.  The GH thing might be, but that definitely wouldn't mean it was the end for GNR.  Maybe in some people's eyes it is, but Axl is not going to lay down and die.  He has too much time and effort put into CD.  I also agree with whoever said it above, that Interscope\Geffen have a ton of money put into this record, that they will not just let it go.  The Greatest hits, would not sell that many copies.  It would sell a little, but not enough to make all of their money back that they spent on Chinese Dem.  This again is a rumor started by someone on an internet message board, nothing to get worked up about. :smoking: :smoking:

It doesnt make sense. Why pour millions into a project that never will be released? So they give out a GH album to make up some of the lost money? When they've invested so much money into Chinese Democracy, they will either way benefit from releasing the damn album. It will either way sell a few copies, which means more money. To release both would then make even more money. To release all 3 supposed albums would also mean more money to make up for the possible loss all togheter.

So, if this is a high level decision, Im gonna apply for a job, coz even I can do a better job doing the Math on this subject, and I flunked Math a few years ago.

I may be mistaken but I believe the user sky72 posted that MTV release date for march '04 concerning the GH CD like a month ago or something...

I did a search on the board...there it is:

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=9081 (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=9081)

This thread was posted on Dec. 9 and I'm pretty sure the date was on MTV for a while...

I guess the boss across the ocean does not know what he is fucking talking about.

Another dick in a suit.

ya i'm sure they are gonna cover what they but in CD with a greatest hits cd.

really who the fuck is going to buy it.

not me. unless they put something new on it

i already got all the songs

plus greatest hits cd's are for the x-mas holidays


tell the boss across the ocean to stick the GH CD up his ass.................i'm sure he will enjoy it

-5thoffuckingwhiskey

 :D

good.........can't wait

A few weeks someone posting  that they went to Sam Goody who had a new GNR album listed for a release sometime between March and May. A bunch of us speculated that it was the GH again. So maybe this guy isn't lying.

The timing of this woud make no sense. I work in advertising for a major music retailer, and I've been working on all the ads for march, and there's no mention of GnR anywhere. That could hcange, but I'll check with the music buyers on Monday to see if they've heard anything. I don't buy the fact that the record company isn't thrilled with the material. I'm sure they would die to get it out, but Axl hasn't let them. Hopefully we'll know more in the next few weeks.

Why wouldn't Universal know about GNR? Oh that's right, they have no direct contact with the band.  ::)

There's no way that info would leak, especially to someone who would post it on a message boad.

If you would have said Geffen or Interscope it would've given you more credibility...

We are niot going to see a greatest hits album but we will see CD.  Axl would not have a greatest hit album come out befiore the new album or Rock In Roi IV.

If a GH disc is in the cards, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this is what we might call a smokescreen...
 :beer:
Joe

Isn't it possible that Universal would know since CD is supposed to be a major release?

Also, the original release of the GH was leaked to someone on the internet. Someone on Sludge posted about it at least a month before it appeared on any music sites but no one believed him. In fact his claims were very similar to this poster's. He said CD was scrapped in favor of a GH.

So this poster very well could be telling the truth. It may not make much sense to scrap CD, but since when did anything regarding CD make any sense?

hey guys and gals...
I think some of us are suffering from paranoid delusions.
CD is coming out, we have to listen to our guru's Mysteron, and raoxles.
i'm not new here i was formerly Notsoiron Mikey..but i lost my stupid password and blah!...so i'm back ..even though no one cares hehehe.
Watch for CD soon....i hope.

if it is a gh, i'd still buy it, but i'm still waiting for cd



rock n' roll

Ah! No longer the one post wonder! Funny how 'information' only leaks to them....

If Uninversal wanted to get some money back i dare say Axl could write em a cheque....he does collect royalties from 60 million album sales and all the money from the tours......

He also mentioned that if CD was such a great record it would have been relased years ago, otherwise he had no other explanation.
 
You could turn that on its head and say the reason it hasn't been released is because its so good they are happy to wait till Axl says its ready.

There is very little information given away here, i don't think (even if its true) that it is cause for any concen.

I would take your word over the Johan dude........Thanks for the news Darknemus. :smoking:

Right. But then if GN'R where finished, why would dizzy send me an autograph last thursday, signing GN'R '04? But ofcourse, a high ranking official in Universal circles would know better then one of the artists himself, wouldn't he?

The last sentence of your post should answer your question.

Things do get leaked, and if it were true there would be rumors going around like wild fire.

Look at it, he's friends with one of the "top guys" for Universal music in Europe. Why would this big wig say to someone (who would run as fast as he could to the nearest message board and post it):

"Last time they had a relase date for CD was almost 2 years ago, at that point they recived new Dates from the States every quarter.
Suddenly there were no more dates.
He also asked the States if the relase of "greatest hits" had anything to do with
CD as a promotion campaing, the answer was NO!!!!!
They want to get some money back after all investment put into CD.
He also mentioned that if CD was such a great record it would have been relased years ago, otherwise he had no other explanation.
If they were to show up in Rio, we are probally going to see the same set list again I guess."

Does this sound right to you? He basicly just did what every other "false insider" does by grabbing a lot of old rumors and tying them together. There was nothing new in his post. It wasn't like when Mysteron said the GH album was going to be cancelled, and then it was. He didn't say anything. Look at the last part of his post about Rio. I don't think he knew what to do with the Rio gig, since it didn't fit with his story.

If someone in Europe found out about this, why wouldn't Mysteron or someone else in the states? If this was true, why hadn't this leaked out by now here? If they said CD was cancled, you don't think that would make some noise? Why would they release a GH to re-coup the money, when they know there would be more interest in CD. Look at Live Era, you'd see the same sells figures for the GH CD, plus most of the tracklist was covers. How would they make their money back with that? Why would the band be looking to go on a European tour? What would the label gain by shelving the music?

I'm not saying I necessarily believe this guy, because we are all too familiar with people posting bogus rumor. However, this particular rumor is deja vu of the first time we heard of the GH so I can't help but wonder if it is happening again.

You are saying if this is true it would leak out, but it did not leak the first time the GH came about. Mysteron seemed to find out about the GH at the same time the rest of us did. In fact, I was under the impression the band did not find out about it until then either. So isn't it possible the same thing could be happening this time?

The only difference between this time and last time is GNR is playing RIR and it does seem odd that they would play RIR without new material, but they have done it before so who is to say they won't do it again?

dial F for failure. If, and that's a fucking HUGE if, there is a "greatest hits" released, it definitely would not take the place of 'Chinese Democracy', or even used as filler until they can get the album out.  

Anything is possible. That's true.

I don't remember the rumor coming out months before GH was placed on amazon.com, all I remember is someone posting the tracklist when the mysterious GNR cd popped up on Amazon and no one knew what it was, and he was lambasted. But I'm saying that obviously something was sent out to Amazon.com and other sites saying something is coming, so its not hard to believe that someone obtained that information THEN.  If CD was cancled don't you think the band members would know? If someone tells a distributor this info, don't you think the band would know it, or other people who have insiders in the record label? Or at least the word would get around?

Last time they played RIR they did play new material remember.

The first time the original rumor popped up it was very similar to this. Some guy on Sludge claimed that he heard from the record company that CD was scrapped in favor of a GH which was to be released around Christmas time. This was at least a month before the tracklisting or anything like that appeared. Of course no one believed this guy and the rumor died off extremely fast until it reappeared a month later.

I didn't believe it myself because it made no sense that CD would be scrapped, but we now know the guy was at least partially correct.

The idea of CD being scrapped still confuses me, but I would not be suprised if the GH pops up again. That's all I am saying.

Oh and you're correct they did play new material the last time. I should have said they played without an album to support.

Interesting.  Very interesting. Mostly because Universal (the company known as Vivendi Universal) and Universal Music, since the NBC/GE deal, have absolutely nothing to do with each other.  Universal Music is now run as it's own seperate company, and is no longer part of Vivendi Universal.  What's REALLY interesting is, last I knew, Universal Music (UMG) was run entirely (at least from an executive control standpoint) from within North America (and mostly out of the U.S....CA and NY to be exact).  So, I don't know who Johan's "source" is, but again, last time I checked, Universal Music doesn't have any "European Executives" or "high ranking Universal Bosses" outside of North America.  Universal Music International (UMI) does, but have NOTHING TO DO WITH TOP LEVEL DECISION MAKING at UMG OR INTERSCOPE.  UMG does own LABELS outside the U.S. and North America, and even publish and distribute outside the U.S. and North America (usually, but not always,through UMI), but the executive structure and major decision making is entirely housed in North America (and mostly in the U.S.).  

And another point:
Last I heard, UMG pretty much allowed each label to operate as a seperate entity, even though they were all under a common umbrella.  That means Interscope/Geffen executives make decisions about their label,  Island Def Jam executives makes decisions regarding their label, etc, etc.  While UMG is kept "in the loop", they do not make decisions about releases, artist signings, etc.  I haven't heard that's changed, and in light of UMG begin cut loose from Vivendi Universal, and UMG's more independant operation, I would be very surprised if it did, given how profitable this method has been.

Just thought that might add a bit to the conversations going on here.

 :hihi: That's why he should have used Geffen or Interscope instead of Universal. Yeah, distributors are going to ax a record to recoup the money they never spent on it ::)

GirlGunner: Okay, I thought you were trying to say this guy might be telling the truth when its obvious he was talking out of his ass. I don't remember the sludge rumor, just the velvetrope tracklisting post. Either that guy heard about the GH coming out and he put his own spin on it (what Pure did with the VMA's, when the rumor had been floating around for about a week), or he made a lucky guess. But I'm sure the GH may poke its head up one day.

Is there no one accessing this message board that can answer one simple question about this band? Surely someone must know, or run into, at some point in time and space, a person like Del James or Tommy Stinson or Beta or Sean Beavan or Bryn Bridenthal who can shed some light on this situation.

Has Axl Rose been committed to an asylum, or is this album completed?

As long as we don't hear that they will soon enter the studio to put the finishing touches on it!!  

I totally love darknemus' posts and do somewhat trust his info... but all I can keep thinking about is how he thought MFP was Axl.  :rofl:

I sure as hell did.  I won't deny that one :)  Of course, had I heard the entire track initially, I would have never drawn the same conclusion.  Oh well, at least that's one mystery that's now buried.

-darknemus

That Track list still hurts my eyes. I mean realy.. somethings really dont belong there...

Gunners!
All I am saying is what I heard from my source(reliable).
Remember it?s againts the bands will. Maybe they will do their last
release with Universal by giving out "Greatest Hits".
It?s alot of money and politics involved(beyond our control), and maybe the band as well.
I will come back with more info later, until then wait for "greatest Hits".
/Johan

Why would they release it through Universal? That's not their label.

It doesn't help your credibility by not responding. I didn't even ask you to name your source, just use a bit of logic.

Universal doesn't have a say over Geffen and its artist. What does your source say about Geffen breaking off on its own? Why would they try to re-coup the money spent on the recordings with a GH package with mostly covers on it? What was the breaking point that lead to this decision? Why is the band planning a concert if there's no reason to be a band anymore?

ok, this might sound stupid, but i don?t know much about record lables and shit like that.. could someone please explain the deal with geffen and interscope and universal..

why is there universal stickers on the gn?r albums i.e. here in norway... what has universal to do with anything at all... i?m confused as fuck here :confused:

some explenation is appreciated

Pilferk explained it in this thread above, but Universal will distribute music from the labels in Europe. Geffen, Interscope and I believe A&M were working under Universal music. But Geffen (GNR's label) is breaking away, or has broken away from that group, but Universal Music will probably still distribute GNR's music in Europe. But the funny thing is, Universal doesn't have a say in decision making on the labels bands.

For crying out loud, I've been coming to this site for what seems like the better part of a decade and I still can't understand some of you people. For example, why don't people just name their "reliable source"? Nobody knows who you are and "your source" probably doesn't come to this site. Who are these people trying to protect and from what? Anytime someone says I have a source, i laugh. It's a joke. Out of he hundreds on here who say they have a source, maybe 1 or 2 actually do.
If I had a source, and I don't, I'd name name them, give you ALL the details and give away all the secrets. Until someone actually goes that far, I wouldn't believe very many people on this site...

Ok, I'm now through reading 3 pages of replies and I'm still in the same position I was yesterday before reading this thread; Chinese Democracy is coming out. GH album is not.

This first time poster's post doesn't even qualified as a rumour. No source, no names, nothing. Nada.

Shit, At least Raoxsle's posts are far more entertaining and interesting...By the way, where is Raxosle when we need him the most? any insight on this Raoxsle?

Haven't we gone through all this already?  ??? ::)

How is he any different than this guy? He is just another person who suddenly decides they are in the know. The only person who could give us any insight is Mysteron.

That post was meant to be ironic. I should've added this ;)

Can't believe people take this seriously

Everyone take a deep breath, and look at this objectively

There is no evidence that GNR are in any kind of difficulties, that CD has been cancelled or a GH is on the way

Just because some guy logs in and says something about GNR doesn't make it so

May i remind u all that just last week we were preparing street teams.....this board was a hub of confidence, where has that gone?

There is no need to panic, a few of u need to gain a healthy dose of skepticism.

Izzy is right here. You should just all ignore this guy and take no notice he must be loving that fact that his one BS post has already got a 4 page thread........i mean a 4 page thread for a 1 post wonder wtf?

street team for a greatest hits cd? axl and gnr better not be that fucking bold come on

this is horseshit! if we were gonna get a greatest hits it wouldve been november to capitalize on christmas, it would make absolutely no sense now

i think geffen is using it as a bargaining tool with axl, cause thats probably the only leverage they have on axl is the threat of a greatest hits, then i think geffen would just bite the hand that feeds cause id say gnr's contract probably is runnin out soon

I hate to say it, but this guy may be telling the truth.  Lets be honest with ourselves here.  It is very possible that CD may suck bad.  If the record lable thought that CD would be a multiplatinum album that would end up making millions, why wouldn't they have released it by now?   From the standpoint of the interscope executives it would make no sense for them to sit on a goldmine and not cash in after all these years if they actually believe that they could.   An explanation for this could be that CD is a total disaster and the payoff wouldn't collateral their investiment into Axl's 10 year project.   I hope this is not the case, and excuse the cliche but as they say denial ain't just a river in Egypt.  

Because its impossible to release that which you haven't been given TO release.  Its not like Interscope had a completed Chinese Democracy sitting on some exec's desk in early 2001 and they said "wow, this sucks - forget it, we're not gonna release it"  But you know what, we'll go ahead and let them tour on this crappy material and we'll toss some occasional website updates out to the masses to make them think its coming.  Damn, we're a crafty record company!

-darknemus

Shit ......Chinese Democracy is strong just on theses songs alone

Chinese Democracy
The Blues
Madagascar
Rhiad


Most fucking artist only have 4 good songs on an album anyway


bullshit....chinese democracy...................i do not think sucks

sorry

those four songs are great and can challenge anything played currently on radio.

oh my god was good..........all it needed was a video and re-mixed to bring out axl's voice..........awesome catchy song.

just think the above 4 songs are not the best..........what if?

what a fucking album...........could top afd

-5th

Well 5th, what if they put out a greatest hits with those 4 new songs? He he....a primer for the album? I would simply shoot somebody! ;D

ya.i had that thought some time ago.............

it is the only way i would buy it...........with something new.........

most hits cd's do have new stuff......................

it would rock......to have those four new songs on it

they do hold up to the old stuff.........we seen that live....no doubt

material is strong..maybe a little stronger

also.....it is the only way to keep me from breaking something.


 :hihi:

 : ok:

HERE IS A KICK ASS HIT'S PACKAGE

two different albums

CD1

1. Welcome to the Jungle
2. It's So Easy
3. Brownstone
4. You Could Be Mine
5. Shadow of Your Love (Live)
6. Rocket Queen
7. Move to the City (Live)
8. Ain't it Fun
9. Sweet Child Of Mine
10. NightTrain
11. Mama Kin (Live)
12. Out Ta Get Me
13. My Michele
14. Paradise City
15. Extra track - Crash Diet

Limited Bonus Tracks

1. Chinese Democracy
2. Rhiad

CD2

1. November Rain
2. Live and Let Die
3. Knockn on Heavens Door (Live)
4. Patience (Live)
5. Sympathy for the Devil
6. Civil War
7. Since I Don't Have You
8. Don't Cry
9. Used to Love Her (Live)
10. Yesterdays
11. Estranged
12. extra track - Dust in the Wind (Live)

Limited Bonus Tracks

1. The Blues
2. Madagascar

it could be a stretch to fit all of these on a single cd......but it looks good.


-5th

I entirely agree, those songs rock, Chinese Democracy will be awesome, no record company would discard that.

Another winner! Three posts to the champ! I hate to say it, but you might be the same person who started this never ending thread!

You really think he's telling the truth? :hihi:

If anyone remembers Pure, he used to post "information" and never respond to anyones posts, he just stayed on watching peoples re-actions to his threads. This guy did the same thing. He was on-line on for at least 30 minutes when I asked him 1 question he obviously couldn't answer.

And again, A&R guys are always monitoring a bands progress in the studio for the label, with that fact and the fact they were continuing to pay for studio time up until the end of 2003, I highly doubt they would decide to stop now. If CD was a disaster, they would have known a long time ago. Axl isn't in a studio spending the labels money with the label having no knowledge on what he's doing and they have no say in what's going on. It doesn't work that way. Sorry.

What's so confusing here?  Nothing.  

The alleged greatist hits is listed on the Interscope label through a third-party source and remains unconfirmed.  Nevertheless, it makes perfect sense to release a greatest hits album from the old material as a prepromotional advertising tool for Chinese Democracy....and yes, the timing is right if we are to believe Dizzy's 2nd-34rd quarter '04 release statement.  BUT, this has nothing to do with canceling Chinese Democracy.  That shit was pulled out of thin air with no substantiating proof.

~M

Let me reitirate, I'll shoot somebody if they release a greatest hits cd. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: ;D

i will too, fuck, even kiss has the integrety not to release a GH album  ::)

i just hope it's Chinese Democracy in disguise..  so when GN'R Greatest Hits hits the stores, it's really CD  : ok:

edit: guess i'll have to add that the "cd in diguise" part of this post was sarcastic, jeezz :P

I think it's pretty obvious that there isn't anything to even discuss here. The smell of bullshit is overwhelming.

Above all else, it just doesn't make any sense.

What would be the fucking shit, is if CD is disguised as the greatest hits. Would this work as a method to stop a leak tho? You can fool people into thinking GH was coming, and fool those actually pressing the disks, but what about when it's packaged? Maybe it would reduce the chances, but then maybe it's a totally stupid idea?

@#$%Muther

I don't know why I keep hearing that people think GnR will release CD "In disguise"!? Why on earth would they release this long awaited CD under the cloak of darkness, so to speak? You want to have an album shipped out that nobody thinks is coming? What good would that do? I can see 2-3 months out putting out "Guns N roses, TBA" on record stores "coming soon lists" but this album NEEDS hype, and the record company will hype it. Plus, the label needs to have artwork and press info. on it out at least 5 weeks prior to it's street date, so it can get in magazines and the sunday circulars that hit the week it releases. If and when Chinese Democracy comes out, we will definitley see it coming.  :)

I believe it's bullshit.

Can I kill the messenger?  :rofl:  :rant:

That's what I think too.

I don't think we'll hear about in on some radio station or from some records store.

I think they'll announce it in a press release or in an interview.


At least I hope so, because so far we've heard radio stations say all kinds of things. It needs to be an official statement of some kind.


/jarmo

Believe me, Cd will get a promotional push like no other. We will def know that cd is coming. And its all going to start with the announcement we will be getting in the foreseable future

Um, I seem to remember that someone mentioned that they had seen GH on Amazon recently.  Can that someone post a link?  'cause either it's gonzo, or it's not in the same place the "old" link leads to.....

Pilf:
I check Gn'R at Amazon at least once a day.  It's been "28 results" in music since they pulled GH last year.  The results are all old stuff and imports.

On a realted note, I think I mentioned once before that in '91, just before UYI were given official release dates, employees at 2 music stores I went to told me that a "Greatest Hits" would be released in September.  Didn't make much sense, but they were convinced of it.  I'm not trying to give credence to a GH=CD smokescreen train of thought, but it's not entirely unprecedented.
/Mike

Dear Gunners.
You guys have to trust me about  the "Greatest Hits" thing.
It will be released in March. It?s not a "hidden CD"!
How could someone think that GNR would release a "greatest hits" back
in 91? after one album and one EP?
Johan

Why should I??  how do you KNOW this GH will be out.. Give me some reason why I should "trust you" besides some MTV.com link???

I can't believe this is still a topic of conversation  :hihi:

I'm sure MTV printed a story themselves that the GH album has been put off indefinitely, and I'm sure the date they have on their site is a default date. You should check with them. Anyway, the 31/03/04 is a Wednesday

Hallo Again.
I am sorry for the case that a high ranked record boss knows
more about a release than you guys.
In the end, I guess the record company decide what to release not you guys.
Keep up with the conspiricy theory.
/Johan

how can you be so fucking confident! have you actually seen the discs? what will you say when it doesn't come if it doesn't?

i want to believe that the greatest hit will never ever see the day of light! i think it is a bad idea, and with that horrilbe fucked up, up the ass shit fuck fuck shit tracklist, i wouldn't know what to do... will you still post at this board if it gets cancelled? do you post the same at other gn'r boards? in that case which ones and what is your username at those boards?

i believe you believe it, but i think the fucker who told you is a no knowing stiff in a suit who doesn't know nothing  :P ::)

I'm sure they also knew there was a Greatest Hits coming back in November. But that one got cancelled.....



/jarmo

myonly question to u people on the board is why after 5 pages are u all still worried about this shit?

i dont understand some of u on here anymore, we all know its bullshit

why release a greatest hits now? if a greatest hits was comin out it wouldve before christmas to capitalize on shopping season, there would be absolutely zero point in it

if gnr give us a greatest hits cd and vr release contraband thats gonna really fuck up gnr

also the only way i can even imagine a way for a greatest hits to come out is if somehow there are new tracks that arent gonna be on c.d. on it

but a greatest hits would mean interaction between the old members and royalties for the old members and im sure axl doesnt wanna help finance VR

if a greatest hits cd comes out ill shave my head and post before and after pics

relax everyone, its not gonna happen

i thought u people believed the street teams and the 3 video rumor?

shit people stay on one side

if u believe we are organizing street teams to promote a greatest hits cd then i have no more to say cause nothing can be said to get thru to u all

stop worrying! its bullshit!

Yeah seriously. The dude might mean this very sincerely, but just because some boss in Scandinavia (judging from his nick) told him some stuff doesnt mean crap.

We've seenthis shit for years. The biggest newspaper in Scandinavia even run a full story on how GNR would release CD in 2001...I didnt belive that for a second and I dont belive this either.

Infact, I dont belive anything about GNR unless it's the part-time spokesperson who says it, and even then Im not convinced.

I don't believe that a Greatest hits will be released before CD, it just doesn't make sense to me.  :confused:

Even if Axl put a new studio track on it, it would still be great publicity for VR as people would associate GNR will Slash and Duff etc instead of Bucket and Tommy etc.

Axl wants people to get to know the new band, a greatest hits cd of the old songs is not the best way to do that IMO

Hmm, i admire ur technique,

most people that come on here to post lies just post once and sit back and enjoy the chaos they cause, u keep coming back to keep it going

I'm impressed, if ur going to piss off a load of people with lies u might as well do it properly, but U have had ur fun, now go prank mygnr.com or some other site.

i trust u man!!  :hihi:hey has scott bein handing out drugs to u by any chance??

Wow - this original post is 10 pages deep into the board.  It was posted almost a month ago...

The official statment from the record company makes no mention of the current state of the band.  It's almost like nuGNR doesnt exist for them...

Side note:  In just 1 measly month, we managed to generates 10 pages and millions of posts largely based on rumors!  :o

Thanks for the info Johan! I believe you!  :hihi:

Seriously though , the guy WAS right it seems. I thinka  few of you owe him a small apology , although I doubt he will get it.  :-[

Yea that is funny. Johan was more right than any other board member on here. I think you guys owe him a great big apology. He obviously knows shit, and we should he'll come back with more info as he gets it. Thanks brother!

Johan is the man.  He truely has an inside source and he posted it.  People gave him shit, but he stayed with the board.  Face it, next month we will see a GH cd.  Why anyone would buy it is beyhod me.

Agree, way to go Johan.

Altough I seldom comment rumors, I felt it would be nice to show some support between all the negativity!  : ok:  Hope the prejudicsts have learned a lesson :)

this was the best reading in a while...go on and read this post and it's answers from page 1!!
 :hihi:

it's so funny to see all the ofences on this guy, and to see dark' and mysteron so 100% sure about their sources that there wouldn't be a greatest hits...

typical htgth!
you gotta love it... 8)

Yeah , the thread is hilarious if you read it from page 1 right up to the end. I cant believe none of those people wont even take 5 seconds to come in here and apologize to Johan for being so rude.

yes, this thread is pretty funny  8)

I searched for Johan's original thread and made a post so that it would be on the 1st page of the board. When I saw that GH was being officially released, I wasted about 4 mins of my time searching for it.

I had to look 10 pages deep! and in only 1 month with very little official news! that's what bugs me out  :o

so johan was right...

but this means also that universal (geffen, interscope) gave up CD. He said that in his first post.

I don't remember if I said anything, but I'll happily apologize anyway. I had honestly assumed that the GH album had been kicked into the next century. I never thought in a million years that those pesky kids over at Universal would stand their ground over this. Money eh, it's drives people to do the most wickedest things  :hihi:

Johan- I don't remember posting anything on this thread-all I'm going to say is sorry too- it takes lots of courage to post and not reveal the source. :peace:
Thanks for sharing!  Did anyone else apologize yet?

I'll say I'm sorry... I'm sorry I didn't call you a bullshitter sooner.

*waits to see the next change in johans story*

what are you talking about?  ???

People can get information, its not that difficult if you know the right person, hear something... But in most cases people embelish a story, or flat out lie about it to shape their own views and try to make themselves seem more important than they really are. I've seen it. But if you want to overlook the fact this guy said Axl was against the greatest hits, then he was all for it (among other things), be my guest. Your just giving him fuel so he can give you more bullshit. That's why I brought up Pure. He heard one true story, made himself out to be an insider, and then lied about shit constantly, making people believe him.

I say think for yourself and make up your own mind

If Johan starts rumoring in the future, he'll be caught out quick. In the meantime, he said something true, so that;s cool by me

Before anybody asks, I cleaned up this thread.

Why? Because I love power and cleaning up a thread is so much fun.  :rofl:



/jarmo