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In a recent interview Slash claimed that Izzy proposed that he (Izzy) and Duff do the singing for Velvet Revolver rather than get a singer in.

Would you have been happy if it had turned out that way with Duff N' Izzy on Vocals, Slash on Lead, Dave on Rythmn, Duff on bass and Matt on drums?

Personally i would have greatly preferred that...its not that i dislike Scott Weiland its just I think Duff N' Izzy are both brialliant vocalists and lyricists (esp Izzy), also this scenario would have left 3 original GNR members in the group.....for me that would have been a real rival for the title of true GNR.

Anyway I ramble....bascially would you have preferred Duff N' Izzy on vocals or Scott Weiland?

I'd like duff and izzy too, well izzy as lead, duff as backup. I always dug Izzy's voice, its pretty cool. Duff isn't all that great of a lead singer in my opinion, though he has definitely come a long way since So Fine  ;D

u have to be kidding me, i like izzy's voice ok but izzy is just to damn unreliable, duff u are jokin right? scott was the best choice out of anyone they couldve got, i preferred sebastian bach but i guess he is still to 80's!

Izzy is an awesome singer, i would LOVE  whole album of songs like dust n' bones and 14 years!!


Izzy kicks ass!

Duff N' Izzy

Duff is an abysmal vocalist. His sense of vocals is quite shaky... listen to his backups at El Rey... OUCH. Izzy has a cool voice but in a band that you want to get big the vocalist has to be something really special, not just OK.  Plus, when a guitarist sings and plays rhythm, both his guitar playing and singing suffer to an extent.

Yes, it would have been a little daydream to see izzy singing with the band! Izzy's got great voice and

don't know why so many bash duff as a singer. I think he is awesome on so fine, and izzy's

better than axl could do on Dust N' Bones and 14 years! so why it has to be always so complicated

what comes to Axl, Izzy and whole old and new GNR scene. Perhaps it's only rock and roll. Well good

luck to Weiland. This guy is clam.....seriously!  :)

Who said anything about him playing rythumn guitar live? We would have Dave for that.

It seems from your responses people would have preffered Duff N' Izzy, that would have been the dream scenario for me.

Also someone mentioned to get big u need a 'really special' vocalist...and Izzy Stradlin GNR's original rythmn guitarist/song writer/vocalist isn't that?

Also Muse are huge and are u trying to tell me their vocalist (Matt Bellamy??) is anything special? Hell he has the charisma and personality of a lump of wood.

Izzy, Im sure it works great for Muse. Im into music quite heavily and I dont even know who the hell they are. Just because some other bands have an OK vocalist doesnt mean that VR shouldnt have someone who's entire art is dedicated to that solely. Look at a lot of the really big great groups, Zepplin, The Who, Queen... their vocalists were all masters of their voice. While Izzy is a good singer, why would you settle for good when you can get someone great?

Piss simple guitar leads worked nirvana so why don't we just kick out Slash now... hey Nirvana was huge.

Wow...some venom there.

Surprised u haven't heard of Muse, their 4th album dropped this monday 'absolution', they are okay i suppose.....

Okay i get ur point about needing a great vocalist, but in my mind Izzy is just that + he can write brilliant songs, fair enough u disagree but is Scott Weiland better? I don't think so....he is hardly a frontman in league with the Mick Jaggers/ Freddy Mercury's/ etc. Ur right VR need a top class vocalist...i don't think they have that in Scott and therefore might as well have gone for Izzy and maintained that GNR vibe.

One vocalist - Izzy

in my opinion I would like to have Izzy playing rhythm and writing...  I am soso with Scott, I think he's ass terrible live. The lyrics to Set Me Free make ZERO sense... he has a stage presence though. I wish they got someone better than him, although comming from a different area of music it gives VR an anti revival/nostalgia band. I really wish they got someone better than Scott, I'm afraid it won't take off so well anymore.

We are in totally agreement then.

I was hoping Sebastian Back or Mike Patton would get the job, (if Izzy and Duff weren't gonna do it) both have brilliant voices and can write some good shite. I have to say i like set me free.....but if it was by anyone other than Slash/Duff and Matt i would have ignored it. The lyrics are poor..thats not the end of the world for a rock n' fuckin' roll group but all the same.........

Thats why Duff N Izzy would have been so cool, 1. they are available, 2. u got that GNR thing going with 4 members plus u got Duff for the harder appetite stuff and Izzy to provide great lyrics, 3. they are both experienced vocalists.

Im extremely glad they got Scott, this way they already have Scotts fanbase along with all us GN'R fans as listeners now, before their first album is even finished.
if Izzy was the singer is would be only us GN'R fans.
plus Scott is a good singer/songwriter, I want Izzy in the band as well, but as a writer/guitarplayer/backup singer.

First off, Duff should NEVER be allowed behind a functional microphone.

Izzy is probably my favorite one of the bunch but his agenda doesn't fit with the band's.

So, Scott is it for me...

Definitely Scott.  They need to be fronted by someone with more talent and better vocals than either Izzy and Duff could provide or else I don't think it would have any more success than any of their solo projects had.  

yeah otherwise this would just be Ju Ju Hounds + Snakepit + Loaded... it's like musical incest even though the 3 bands were different. They needed to bring someone from the outside who came from their own style AND fan base.

I don't mind Scott... I think the band needs a dedicated frontman. Like someone already said, all the greats; Zep, The Who, Queen all had dedicated frontmen/singers/entertainers. It makes the band much more dynamic.

As much as I'd love to hear Izzy sing, many people would just rip the shit out of the band for not caring, and putting together a half-assed Snakepit MKIII.

Scott just being there shows that this band has serious intentions, and Scott is also bringing a fresh fanbase with him too, which is only a good thing.

Scott....

I'm all for Weiland fronting this band. The guy is willing to take chances & has a vocal style that is very diverse. VR could play any type of song & pull it off with Weiland singing.

I think Izzy & Duff are classic back-up vocalists in a rock band, but I've never been impressed with them singing lead. Maybe on some slower blues-based stuff or some punk cover, but nothing that really is up to par with a guitarist like Slash in your band.

Izzy and just let duff play bass

Same here

I started this a long while back and thought it might be intresting to see what people's opinions are now we have all heard VR's album.

My views haven't changed - i still think Duff N' Izzy should have handled vocals as was originally proposed, what is obvious now is how much publicity Scott has generated for the band which is deffinetly a plus for his inclusion - however my biggest complaint with the album is Scott's lyrics and Izzy would have given us far more of the GNR style.

Anyway now we know what Scott can do for VR, do u think he was the right choice or should they have gone with Izzy and Duff (or just Izzy) on vocals?

Of course it should have been Scott...

No better frontman out there right now.

Definatly the right choice to go with Scott.  I'll admit with VR he does hit alot of bad notes from what i have heard live. But hey it's rock n' roll, it's not meant to be perfect is it?  I have heard enough of his work to know how good a frontman and singer/songwriter he is.  He has a real cool presence about him.  He hits that stage and it's exciting, thats what you want.

Duff is great man, he has a great-rough-punk-Black Death Vodka-voice.  Nothing wrong with a bit of that but they needed someone very different to make this band more than a "side project". 

Izzy - fantastic song-writer no one would dispute that.  Although i havent heard any ( i don't think) his stuff since Ju-Ju hounds - which to be honest didn't do much for me.  But i haven't seen his progression in songwriting - i am keen too though. 

But i have been watching the old Illusions shows - particuarly Indiana '92 springs to mind and he was terrible to be honest.  Axl saved the day when he joined in on the chorus' but no man, in my opinion, he doesn't have that lead singer quality.  Which to be honest i think suits him for what he does - so fair enough to him. 

Mike Patton would have been fantastic too, i have to agree with you there.  My wishes from the start were for either Scott or Mike so i'm happy.

Scott is a frontman!

I dont consider the share scenario an interesting band  :o


Scott, scott, scott..............

I would have prefered Duff N?Izzy, but if Izzy was there, why Dave on rithm guitar?Hell, I?d go for Duff (bass,vocals) Izzy (Vocals, rithm guitar) Slash(Lead Guitar) and Matt (or Steven) on drums.







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I can't believe we're even discussing this..only a fanboy would prefer having IZZY and Duff AS FRONTMAN!

I love Scott but I would have like dit more with Izzy on vocals. I just like Izzy's voice and lyrics more.
And while scott is a good frontman I don't understand how anyone can say he's the best frontman around right now.

The question is if Izzy really is a good frontman? A rock 'n roll band sucks without that.

Weiland for sure

Because Ive thought about it, and theres nobody I think is better...

I agree : ok:

I like Scott alot as a frontman and I think he has a great voice. I do like Duff and Izzy's singing alot tho, and having izzy in VR would have been great solely for the fact that we would be able to get our hands on what he is doing unlike his latest album.

As much as i would have liked Duff n' Izzy i prefer Scott Weiland.

As singers Duff n' Izzy are great, they are a great combination together. But as frontmen neither match up to Scott Weiland.

Velvet Revolver needed a great frontman to set themselves apart from the other rock groups today. And Weiland was perfect choice and has molded well with Slash, Duff, Matt and Dave.

Live yes - but on the album is an enigmatic frontman needed? Scott's got the personality and the..er...moves for the live scene and can get the band the publicity but i'm far more concerned with what it sounds like in my cd player - i'll take an album that only sold 5 copies but is pure genius over a platinum selling but average offering. Izzy N' Duff may not have made the band huge but they would have made a better album musically of that i have no doubt - maybe Izzy would have pushed Slash to reach his potential, i believes Slash is capable of significantly more than he showed on Contraband.

I love Contraband well I love VR. Im a slash fan, and i dont know why but it seems like he's holding back on Contraband

I don't kow if Slash is "holding back", probably seems that way because he solo's alot less than with Guns.

Izzy for sure. Better lyircs, better vibe, cooler voice!

Lame tired post. Scott is the singer of VR and they wouldnt be half as good with Duff or Izzy singing.

All of you who think Izzy or Duff(Duff?) would have been better have bad taste.  I love Izzy.  He has a cool voice but not for this band. Izzy is not a frontman nor is he even really exciting to watch.  Duff is great also, but sorry guys his voice is horrible.  Scott is a true frontman and is probably one of the best lead singers in the 20 years.  Not only does he have a great voice but you don't know what he is going to do on stage next.  Who started this thread?  :peace:

Izzy on lead vocals would've been awesome. If that'd been the case, I wouldn't've skipped VR's gig in Helsinki two weeks ago.


Well there goes your credibility..

Again the main argument anyone can seem to bring for Scott is his stage presence - that he's a 'frontman'. Fair enough live he might be better - but even the most devoted of us won't see them live more than a handful of times - yet a good album we will be listening to for the rest of our lives. It's what the album would be like that bothers me - Izzy's solo stuff has the lyrics just lacks the killer guitar, Slash's solo stuff has the guitar but lacks the lyrics - don't take a genius to work out they have what the other needs.

I'll take Weiland.

Duff & Izzy never did much for me when they stepped into the spotlight. Well..., bloated Duff used to scare me I guess.

That's exactly the way I see it as well..

If Izzy would've joined VR, Dave certainly wouldn't be playing rythym.  Definitely would've preferred Duff N' Izzy.

I agree with you there, but what would've happened if VR didnt make it big? Maybe the band would just quit playing music and we wouldn't have heard anything from them again.

Well there is this maniac sleeping in the hills. Once he wakes as DMx says all others will suffer a Depression.....

but until he wakes, Scott is up there. Even when the maniac wakes, Soctt will be up there. Not in the same level as the maniac but with some others a few notches below.

You also have Chris Cornell and Maynard. They are right up there if not better than Weiland. But when the rock genre sux theres not much too pick from.

As for the thread, VR would not have been taken seriously if Izzy and or Duff were doing lead Vocals. Scott was a good choice in terms of being a mainstream band. Scott is a great live performer but Izzy would have fit 10x better lyrically with this band. It seems as if Scott is at his best lyrically with StP.