Here Today... Gone To Hell!

My thoughts on the performance:

The band sounded really tight and seemed to have a lot of fun while playing

Slash's solos totally fitted the vibe of the song.

Axl sounded good. He sang most the song with his deeper voice. The higher notes were proplably programmed and sampled by Melissa.

Guitars worked well, especially Slash. Richard played his usual licks. What Robin played there in 2001 also worked. Maybe a mix of both will be on the record?

I liked the ''what can i do with a bitch like you'' line

Frank played it better than Brain imo. The vocals could benefit from some deep reverb/echo/filter effect to make it sound even creepier.

The quiet part could be longer i think.

Ive always liked this song. I like the nugnr Its So Easy. Im exited about this lineups work on these songs and what else is coming up!

Not really a song for the ladies now is it?  :hihi:

The band seemed to enjoy it and they played it well.

I could see this as being the Shackler's Revenge... of a possible new album.  Instead of releasing it in a video game, they debuted it live.  I would expect Hard Skool to be the first single like Chinese Democracy was.

So happy, that’s all I can say right now   :peace:

Finally "new" song! Keep em coming! :love:

Yes! This is awesome. Hard skool next? I bet Hard Skool vil be the first single!

Oi fellow old-timers, nice seeing ya. Quite absurd going on twitter this morning to see "GNR perform new song live". I'd seen some rumour of it being on a set-list but thought that it'd be fake. 

I always was a fan of Silkworms due to it's aggressive attitude. I'm glad the "bitch chorus" is gone even though it was hella lot catchier than yelling "Absurd". Lyrics are already risky as shit, glad they seem to be somewhat woke. Imagine going through all this time only to be cancelled when things might start to get exciting again.

"Down on the farm voice" suits the song, wish he'd try it on more songs. Guitars are great!

Also, only took about 15 years for the text under my avatar to be relevant.  :smoking:

 :peace: :beer:

So cool to see …

Happy to see the old faces posting as well.

Hope all are doing well.

I dig it......cant wait for tomorrow. NYC/NJ shows they always BRING IT

Haha this is the dumbest song. They should have left it in 2001 where it belongs. And this is coming from someone who liked it from Rio concert. I guess - to me anyway - it didn’t age all that well. Or maybe I’m just getting old. It just sounded like noise to me. Haha

I'm hoping for pyro and confetti...you can't go wrong with good pyro in a stadium....lol

Well, I thought this was great.

I flat out LOATHED it upon first hearing back in January 2001.  I did come around on it over the years.  Still not my favorite from that time, but it grew on me.

This, though, sounds great.  Lot of energy and everyone seems into it.  I have to think this has to be a bit more exciting for them than playing 'Double Talkin' Jive' for the 800th time.

Perhaps there is hope for us yet.

I would rather listen to DTJ a million more times than one more time of Absurd. It's just noise.

Well, I never liked it as Silkworms but didn't even recognize it yesterday because I only ever listened to Silkworms like twice. I think it's much more of a pleasant punk style track now, and agree with rebelhipi that the slow part should have been extended. I was just getting into that and they went back to the main riff. It feels like that could really go somewhere. I'm surprised Slash didn't change up the riff though. He could have done more of a 16th note thing like Anastasia or the lead in to the bridge on Better. That would give it more of a classic Guns feel.

I'm conflicted, I guess. You'd think if not Axl, at least Slash would want to re-write or re-structure the songs instead of basically doing the treatment he does to the CD album tracks, you know? I listen to those songs and I can think of a bunch of different ways to go that would be more classic era Guns style.

I think the band enjoyed playing the song too. Axl was on fire

Ive been listening to it alot today.
All i can say is that im glad this song wasent forgotten and is now improved and hopefully included in the new album.

Its too good of a song to not have on a release. And This lineup made it better than what it was in 2001.
I see it has the same gritty agressive quality as Its So Easy, Right Next Door To Hell and Shacklers Revenge.
Im on the new gnr album hypetrain!

Its good they play it. I have listened to Village sesions, there is INCREDIBLE material there, it would be sad if all that not see the light some day. I love the sound of BH, and of GNR that years.
They could take some songs and re play for a studio record. but we dont know if its going to happen some day.

I have " ABSURD ! ! !  " stuck in my head.  Over and over

Thanks a lot Axl  :hihi:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSNN7dMDOFf/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link





/jarmo

Tomorrow a Hardschool clip on official Insta ?

I think I like it even less than the original silkworms...

Its on Tidal!

I think I am about to cry lmao. New Gun's N Roses music

Guitars sound great! Down on the Farm vibe from Axl

On Apple Music

Unreal!!!! To have it on Spotify! Amazing! Now I want the singel on vinyl! ;D

First of all...

FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can’t believe it. I want more. Lol

On Tidal credits are:

Producer: W. Axl Rose, Caram Costanzo
Composer: Guns N' Roses
Lyricist: Guns N' Roses
Associated Performers: Brain
Drums: Brain
Mixer: Caram Costanzo
Studio Personnel: Caram Costanzo

In the words of Ice Cube - it was a good day.

link? is on youtube? i cant find it.

I think its Frank on the drums nonetheless. The cymbals sound the same as Frank uses nowdays (i use same ones)
Plus the drumming is way different from the leak. The whole arrangement is different from the old version.

Id guess Either Brain rerecorded the drums recently, or Tidal got it wrong and Its Frank on the Drums

It’ll be there shortly….


/jarmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Perh45ip3fY

I'm speechless.... Guns N' Roses new music! How I've wait so long......... PATIENCE pays off.

Wowww, its so power, some diferent of the old version, the rithm guitar its making another riff. Great finally we have some new studio material from this line up.

EDIT: listen on spotify. On youtube is so low volume

The download..Does it seem to skip a bit in the first couple chorus versus? Right at screaming banshee mark…

Tidal/spotify get the song credits from the band. If it says it's Brain then it's Brain.

Today truly is a great day. Fuckin amazing!!!!!!!!!

I love this frickin band  ;D

Agreed that there are several super tight edits throughout the song that almost disrupt the beat. I don't love it, but I do think it's intentional.

Seems like they used Axl's recorded vocals from that 1999-2001 era and then spliced it together for the new arraignment and that is just a "hard" cut.

Like the song or not, in any case you can listen to a song played by people who play togheter (in studio or live and not adding thing here and there with cut/copy/past 10 secs track sent by email, not seeing each others for months) The song is old as fuck and doesn't sound overproduced  ::). It's a simple rock song with a punk rock attitude with an industrial sound  :beer:

I really like it! What an energyboost!   : ok: : ok:

First of all I get why alot of fans don't like it.....

But think about it, this THE song to generate a buzz (for a new album?) I mean, the lyrics are as controversial as they can be, Axl sounds different with this englisch accent, I can imagine the press being al over this.....

This is al that all they need, to come with a proper single and album press release (soon), or am I thinking to possitive ?

FFFFFfffffffffuccckkkkkkkkkkk YYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyaeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!! :headbanger:


Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. Certified nutswinger's back ayo.

The god damn energy of it!  :smoking:

OK I just woke up and that's a surprise...I think it's a good way to release a single.

but Silkworms? Am I the only one to think it's a weird choice? I mean the song is OK,
but not really catchy (not like Hard School for example)

I won't talk about the irony of Slash working on a new GNR track with this
kind of industrial vibe, the same he dispised some years ago...

anyway I will enjoy it for what it is, great to have something almost new  :hihi:

but I'm a bit afraid of the general public opinion on this

I wouldnt read much into it. Like shadow of your love, which is now dropped off the setlist, they just uploaded something "new". Its better that nothing but IMO i think they did that so they can have a new song in the setlist.

Youre probably right.

The band just dropped the studio cut. Wasn't expecting that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx3RfdAdCpQ

Just saw someone already linked it, but fuck it. After all the naysaying about new music.

Regardless of what you may think of the song, you gotta give it to G n' R for creating a buzz. How many of us ( myself included) thought "Hard School" might be their next single.  

Instead they drop this bombshell of a single on us. Rather than playing it safe they released a song that is not what the casual Guns fan would expect.

I'm enjoying the song, it definitely has a crazy amount of energy to it. There's a section in the chorus that doesn't quite fit the song but yet they made it work. They definitely made some arrangement changes.

100% YES

For some reason I see the band kind of chuckling at releasing this...thing...and watching people try to digest it....because they are about to release the real stuff that will make our heads spin.

Or at least I hope  :hihi:

But yeah - this cannot be a bad thing at all and the buzz is back regardless

I quite like it, but then I really liked Silkworms too.

Enjoying the tears on the GNR social media pages from "cool fans that are in the know" saying how much they don't like it and that GNR should release Hard School instead  :rofl:

What a lovely surprise, a new studio recording. I think the song is typical Guns n Roses and I love the punk rock vibes. I can't imagine anything other than the hard core fans liking it though, its not exactly November Rain! Thats what I love about this band, the guns and the roses.

Hope they back this up with news of an album release date. Keep momentum going.

Never much of a fan of this song back in the day.  Blew my mind when I saw they played this in Boston because I had written it off. I also didn't think it was that good live from the videos I saw.  But the studio version is really growing on me.  The band sound great on it, and loving the Down On the Farm vocals. :peace:

I like the song.  Very punk and hardcore. 

I also like what this means: If they have a studio ready cut of this...they likely have more.  Probably a LOT more.  How they choose to release it all? We'll have to wait and see.  But I would be SHOCKED if this were some sort of one off.

So, I like the song, but I think I like what it likely means just as much. ;)

Thoughts exactly

I love the song! Sounds fresh yet familiar.
Its the next step! I suppose this is what the next album will sound like +/-
I guess I will not be able to crank it up with the family around, that is why I have earphones... :rofl:

Didn't expect this when I woke up this morning.  Saw it on a former bandmate's Facebook: he wasn't a fan of it, which doesn't surprise me.

Overall, I give it a kind of "meh" rating. I never liked the live version of Silkworms from Rio much so when I heard it was a reworking of Silkworms I tempered my expectations pretty heavily.

The lyrics are repetitive with the same verse three times and no real chorus. I was hoping maybe more would have been written and added. When it came through a third time I just kind of rolled my eyes and almost shut it off.

I don't remember if it was mentioned here or another board when I was looking through stuff before giving it a listen, but someone pointed out that this could be like a Shackler's Revenge situation in 2008, where it was the first song to get an official (or at least non-leak) release, putting out something new that may not be the best perhaps in an effort to pave the way for the bigger and better ones.

Should Hard School be first? No, hell no. Don't throw your biggest one out first. But I also don't know that this one was the best option either. Just hoping we get Hard School to follow, maybe Berlin.

Completely agree. Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that for the first time in 13 years we have new music, and with Slash's guitar on it. And it excites me, because it probably means that there's more songs to be released.

However, talking about the song itself, it's very mediocre to say the least. Some thoughts:

- The opening electronic thing, as brief as it is, sounds weird.

- The main guitar riff is VERY uninspired and repetitive. It sounds like a riff created by someone who just learned how to play guitar.

- The chorus riff is interesting.

- The vocals are absurd, to say the least. It even sounds off tempo at some times. Very weird, especially the chorus, very boring and repetitive.

- The fill in solos are great.

- The middle section is nice, though very short. It had the potential to be longer, maybe throwing a Slash solo in the middle, and then picking up in speed and tempo. Much like Slash's solo on By The Sword or Watch This.

Overall, I think that it sounds like an unfinished song. Really disappointed that they chose this for their first single in years.

But I'm really excited that there may be more on the way, and I'm sure the next ones will be better.

Any quibbles to be had have to take a backseat to the fact they actually released something.

We've been banging on about this for over a decade now.  Hard to give credit where it's due.

Noticed. Maybe they did intend to do it.

I really liked this studio version. The live version was very confusing but I think it's due to poor Youtube clips.

The song is very powerful, killer work from Slash. What a great riff he found there.

The one thing I can not let it pass is the line ''and what can I do with a bitch like you''. Man, this phrase fits the song perfectly. I know it's inappropriate but I'll always sing this way.

Great work GN'R. Give us more songs!

Agree with all of these points. Excited new music is here and more is coming. But this song is kind of a mess, and I don’t get how this would generate excitement from casual or serious fans, being this doesn’t sound anything like the classic lineup sound.
I just hope that Slash and Duff have brought new ideas to the songwriting process the last few years and we don’t just have Axl demanding they do reworked versions of songs robin and tommy wrote 20 years ago. Nothing against those guys, but that was a different time and a different vibe.

Not sure I totally agree here.

Yes, in a perfect world, a new album would be one done by the 7 people onstage each night.  The actual present day Guns N' Roses.  But I still think you can have that element with previously written material.

Here is what I mean.  Axl shows them the Magical Mystery Vault and sees what catches their ear or piques their interest.  If something grabs them, then you have the current band redo it.  I do not want to see a new album released with music played by people out of the band for 20 years now.  But I could roll with the current band reworking some of their ideas.

That's basically what happened here.  'Absurd' does not sound exactly like the 'Silkworms' we heard in 2001.  The current guys tweaked it.  And I think it works.

I’ve been saying all along that I don’t think there next release should be a “record store Tuesday release”… that isn’t how the industry is built anymore. Plus I believe if they do this for say the first hand full of singles it gives them feed back that could eventually change the direction of an eventual compilation release that is aimed that the “physical media” collectors. I think whether or not it’s Hard Skool, there will be a similar pattern either when they hit LA in a week or so… or a month out when they are in Chicago. Hit a “big market” play it to a large audience once or twice then drop it to streaming platforms and release video content. This makes each show a little unique and keeps attention on the tour which makes money. Could be done again in Miami for October, like a serial release (think Stephen King with the Green Mile). Then take it to Europe and elsewhere depending on Covid.

This also gives them plenty of time to work out kinks that have popped up in their past physical releases with rushed artwork, liner notes that weren’t proof read, and other distribution issues. This gets them to the largest consuming audience by attacking streams.

All very valid points.

The only issue I see with this particular selection is that this could never be played.  I know "no one listens to radio" and all that.  But the reality is that every one of our cities has a rock station or 3, do they not?  And "first GNR song featuring Axl & Slash" since 1994 is a grabber.  It would be played.

Or *could* be played...had they released a song that wasn't loaded with too many obscenities to bleep out.

I just think if they dropped 'Hard School' first, that's on the radio.  Today.

I agree the song selection was odd… BUT I think Radio like physical release aren’t what anyone is really measuring anymore like they did in the past. Streaming makes up like 80+% of the industry these days.

I’ll be honest I don’t know when the last time I listened to the radio was. My iPhone gets plugged in and I either listen to playlists I built, playlists based off and artist/genre, or podcasts. I don’t want to listen to 7 minutes of music followed by 20 minutes of commercials… also I grew up with pre America’s got Talent Howard Stern so I also don’t need the dozens and dozens of morning or afternoon drive rip offs of his 1980’s and 1990’s persona.

I think this gives Axl the freedom to release what he wants how he wants without having to cater to what “mainstream rock radio” demands, which means we get music.

I don't have a problem with them reworking old songs and giving them their own vision. I think that's the case here, Absurd is a better song than Silkworms, especially because of the guitar solos in the middle, which I think are great.

In fact, this band has a history of reworking songs and releasing them later on. Don't Cry, November Rain and You Could be Mine, for example.

However, if they're gonna rework some old songs, they should pick the good ones. Silkworms wasn't a good song then, and Absurd, even with all the rework, isn't a good song now. It sounds unfinished, rushed and frankly, a mess.

Why would you want a bunch of artists to make the same work 30 years later?

Beyond that, I think there's lots here that sounds similar to old stuff - Civil War, Locomotive both have solos that interject in the same way this song does. The You're Crazy riff certainly isn't far off this, it's just played with a different rhythm. The vocals sound like things Axl has done before.

Fair you may not like the song, that's fine, but to say it doesn't sound anything like Guns N' Roses is incorrect I think.

It doesn't sound unfinished, rushed or a mess. I am not even sure what the former two even "sound" like. It is a relatively simple and straightforward punk song. Maybe it wasn't what you expected or hoped for, but that doesn't make it those things you described.

Ali

I get a very distinct Pink Floyd vibe from this song.  Maybe I'm the only one.....

Don't know what to think about this, really... Axl's vocals are so touched up he's hardly recognizable. Why not do his deeper voice without messing it up with effects? It could be a decent song with different arrangement and without so many damn effects. But IMHO: this is not punk.

Please go on... I'm listening

I don't think that there are that many effects, at least as compared to Silkworms. Axl's voice sounds like it does in the live version to me. So, I think it is recognizable in that sense. But, his accent may throw people off.

Ali

First of all, I wasn't expecting or hoping anything, really. My life goes on regardless of whether there's a new GNR song or not. In fact, I haven't posted on this board for a while now, but as this new song appeared, I just felt like getting back here and seeing what's going on, what's new and what are everybody's thoughts on it.

The points I shared are only my opinion, off course, that goes without saying. This is a GNR Forum, and on a thread about the new song, it's expected that people share and discuss their different views on it. If not, what's the point of us even being here?

To be a little more specific:

- TO ME it sounds rushed, because it tries to encompass a lot of things in 3 minutes. There's electronic effects, there's 3 or 4 guitar solos (which I think are great, BTW), it has vocal effects, it has a middle section that ends abruptly and the song itself ends abruptly

- TO ME it sounds unfinished especially because it ends abruptly and because of the slow middle section

- TO ME it sounds a mess because of the above

Anyway, as I said, even if I didn't like it, doesn't mean I'm not excited it is out, especially because I think there's more on the way.

But all in all,  I'm pretty sure I won't be listening to it come next month. And I bet you won't too.

Nothing more than that, really.  Axl's vocals along with the arrangement just give me a bit of that "Animals" era vibe (especially thinking about Sheep)...with a bit of Sex Pistols punk added to the mix (which is ironic, I think, and a bit absurd, because the two bands hated each other, reportedly).

I 100% like it.  I think it's catchy.

Like I said, I entirely acknowledge it could just be me.

Oh. I will be. This is the first finished original GN'R song with Slash and Duff in 30 years.

Ali

I'm glad you liked it!  :peace:

Definite Sex Pistols vibe.  My first thought.

Definitely hear the Sex Pistols piece - to me it actually reminds me more of PiL, definitely Lydon-esque.

Also, after listening to Sheep I totally hear what you mean!

Norwegian newspaper VG have rolled the dice, and gave it 1

Is it just Slash’s solos?

I think Fortus does the second one

Yes, here is what they wrote:

« The Axl Rose mystery is not diminished by the new song "Absurd", in which the GN'R dictator has allegedly tricked the original members Slash and Duff McKagan into the studio for the first time since "The Spaghetti Incident?" (1993). Not that their presence can be felt to any degree: This is a worthless, sort of-tough and arrogant surplus product from the crappy album "Chinese Democracy", and it sounds - not least on the almost demonstrative absence of something reminiscent of a melody. Shame on you, Axl.»

Too harsh, and Slash presence is felt that is just a blunt lie

After reading reactions from all over, it's a mixed bag. People either love it or hate it.

Some are commenting on Axl's vocals (effects, English accent), some were expecting a "bigger" solo from Slash. Either way, it's business as usual, GN'R isn't boring at least - everyone has an opinion on them.

I think it's cool how they went about the whole thing - a surprise release that no one saw coming - not this quickly after the tour started at least.

About the song, I think it was a conscious choice to start the "onslaught" of new music with a quick, simple and aggressive punk rocker. I remember Axl got some heat for the amount of ballads on Chinese, and this might be a statement that GN'R is first and foremost a hard rock band.

If Hard School is the next one out, I think it will appeal to the masses, as it's more of a traditional song.

Too harsh but I don't blame them for this opinion. GNR must've seen it coming when they decided to release this type of song instead of a more traditional one.

Also, I think the fact that it's a Chinese Democracy outtake will contribute a lot for the bad reviews, since ChiDem gets lots of (unfair) hate.

On the latter point I 100% agree with you. The truth is that the general public only knows that this is a CD era song originally because Silkworms was played live. Songs like Hard School, Atlas Shrugged, etc never were, so most people have never heard them. So, they shouldn't have that baggage. It would probably help to rename them too.

Ali

this is awesome finally a studio version of what use to be silk worms and i love it

The more I listen the more find myself humming the words from Oh My God here and there - that's only vibe I'm getting

I highly doubt Axl’s vocals were re-recorded. This sounds like a similar treatment to what his vocals got in Oh My God, which is from the same general time frame. That little skip/early entry of the “Screaming Fucking Bashee” part just proves that they spliced already recorded vocals together to match the new song structure. Hopefully mixed in with reworked CD era material there are actual “new” songs with current vocals that may not be as modified by where Axl was stylistically 22 years ago. All that said, this is better than certain songs that were released on CD… like Scraped and Shackler.

Exactly my thoughts. The vocals sound patched up, and some verses sound out of tempo/place.

Can it be in purpose? I find the lyrics to be gradually more clear with each verse, wich give an effect of a clearer and clearer message combined with the repetitive words. That's just my interpretation. Anyway, good song! The live version of Silkworms never hooked me, but this makes me curious of what the studioversion would sound like.

I don’t see how GnR releasing new music can be anything other than major positive ✊🏼. I’m stoked 💥

Yeah I think the vocal tempo being a little staggered is a deliberate thing. It sounded weird the first time I heard it because I had become accustomed to the old/live versions, but the more I listen, the more normal it sounds.

Nice to see official lyrics posted with the youtube video.

Totally don't get this song as a stand alone song.  Not sure how to describe it but it feels like it should be the opening bit before the rock opera starts and you get the whole story.  Opening bit and closing bit to a set of songs that tells a story.

If that's where they are going, not going to be one of those love stories with a happily ever after.   :hihi:

I still think it’s an odd choice for first single in 13 years. It will get no radio play due to lyrics. Casual fans are unlikely to like it. Hard core fans are mixed and mostly just excited to have something “new.” To me, it’s just a curious decision.

I don't know about "no radio play", though Canada might be different when it comes to explicit content?

Just saw this on twitter by coincidence:

Q107 Toronto
Listen to brand spankin' new @gunsnroses! -
@ChenOnAir

Way too harsh. When he calls CD crappy, we know hes not offering any kind of unbiased opinion.  Absurd is a very different song from the band, it took me a few listens to really be able to figure out if I liked it but it very much grows on you.

 Not all good songs kiss you on the lips 1st listen.  

Credibility just flew out the window as soon as he made assumptions to how the song came about.

They don't need radio play. They don't really need the casual fan to like it neither. And they sure don't need some random dude in the Norwegian newspapers to like it. They focus on the art, and that's great.

First of all, if Hard School is their best song in the wings, I'm terrified. I'd consider Hard School even more of a throwaway than Absurd.

But moreover, why wouldn't you throw out your best first? The last thing you want is people to dislike the first taste and never come back to even try your best stuff.


Agreed, I think it sounds WAY better live. Also Axl does the "screaming banshee" line differently live and it flows much more naturally. The studio cadence of that line feels weird.


His voice sounds fuller and deeper live. I'm thinking this is the same vocal take as Silkworms? I really think he sounds better today, at least in terms of this particular song.


I'm thinking it's intentionally just a teaser and not meant to be on the radio or even considered a single. I mean, it may not even be on the album for all we know. Oh My God wasn't on CD and also didn't really represent what that album would sound like either. I feel like if it was intended to be an album single with radio play, they would have announced the album along with it and released a censored version. How many bands release a single for an album they haven't even announced yet?

I'm thinking it's intentionally just a teaser and not meant to be on the radio or even considered a single. I mean, it may not even be on the album for all we know. Oh My God wasn't on CD and also didn't really represent what that album would sound like either. I feel like if it was intended to be an album single with radio play, they would have announced the album along with it and released a censored version. How many bands release a single for an album they haven't even announced yet?
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I hope this is accurate!

the last guns album came out in 2008 it has not been 13 years

I'm sure you are all familiar with 'Achtung Baby'.  Probably U2's second best known album after 'The Joshua Tree'.

It contains all time classic U2 tunes like 'One', 'Mysterious Ways', 'Even Better Than The Real Thing'.  All songs that have been setlist staples for the almost 30 years since.

Does anyone recall what the first single was?  The one that came out before the album??  Because I do.  It was 'The Fly'.

I still recall a line from a 1991 Year In Review article about the album.  "In October, U2 released the album's lead single, 'The Fly'...and promptly scared the shit out of their entire fanbase."

Now, I happen to really like that song.  But, completely candid, it's...what?  Maybe the 6th best song on that album?  Maybe even the 7th.  And it was a totally different sound than what the U2 fanbase had come to expect.  Second single was 'Mysterious Ways', and the third single was 'One'.  Rest was history.  That album went on to sell a jillion copies, and produce a tour that is still considered one of the greatest spectacles of all time.

So, to make a long story short (too late) you can't let a first impression freak you out.  

Sounds amazing I’m really digging it, real bouncy guitar riff. It’s so non mainstream, I love it.

2008 is 13 years ago...

Also, with the variety of styles we're used to with Guns, it's fair to think that a new album of theirs will be diverse.

I think it's a case where they didn't want to put out an epic, grand song as the first single, but rather a fast-paced and somewhat aggressive one. Knowing in advance how the general audience will react to a song is always a bit "up in the air" - you can't know for sure.

The song grows on me personally, I like it. I can also see how the casual fan haven't heard Axl sing in that manner before, and being thrown off by it. They're expecting high pitched, (sometimes) raspy vocals with even higher screams.

The song's lyrics are strange, hopefully the next single is more of a blues sound. :beer:

The Fly is amazing. Prefect single to introduce the 1990s U2 to the world....

Not the best song on the album. But made a lot of sense..... :)



Absurd is classic GN'R meets 2000s GN'R. It's where they are today. Don't like it? Ok.... You'll always have the old albums.



/jarmo

There is a lot of material of that era, they choose silkworms. its good, but really im sure they did a couple more

It's a GREAT riff.  Clever lyrics too.  Always been a favorite of mine.

i agree we been wondering what would a studio version of silkworms would sound like and we finally got a studio version of silk worms a much better song then that was play live in 2001

But, talking about Absurd on an album, it might not be representative for the general sound/vibe of the whole collection of songs. In that case, you'll probably have other new songs to love.

Looking at it historically with Chinese and the Illusions, I think we can expect a melting pot.

i agree jarmo this studio version of absurd is a rock classic

Yes, i think the lyrycs that was cut was a mistake, "what can i do with a bitch like you" they could change the lyric if they consider it bad, but keep lyrics in that part would be perfect.

Jarmo, do you think that GN'R will continue dropping single songs here and there? Or, a full-fledged album?

Ali

8 + 13 = 21

Maybe Absurd is the Shotgun Blues, Right Next Door to Hell of the album. Straight, no brainer rock songs.

I hope there are more intricate songs, as I'm more of an Illusions type of guy.

I been super busy and just listened for the first time.....Mixed thoughts right now but for the most part I like it. Gonna put it on headphones and listen a few more times to soak it in. First impression though is  : ok:

I love the song

I didn't know what to think when I first heard it...but it's growing on me now....it's kinda Down on the Farm meets My World....I can't stop listening to it  8)

I just can't stop thinking of "Oh my God". Not that it is a bad thing, I just hear an industrial vocal sound meets a punk style rock mix. Definitely cool though. I keep listening over and over

Good question. Let's see how things progress.

I like the single idea. Keeps the momentum going. But who knows what the plans are.... :)





/jarmo

can not stop listening to this rock classic

Lol.....don't go there yet. But i have had it on repeat for some time now. You keep getting more and more out of it, the more you listen

They really could have done a lot more with that soft breakdown, though. Without it being longer, it just feels out of place and doesn't really seem worth including.

I have to agree with the people saying it feels undercooked. The riffs and structure are very simple and Slash didn't change very much except the guitar tone. I think it had potential to be more.

Im really enjoying 'Absurd'.
It's one of the most GN'R things to do. Release a song they know won't be played on 'air', it will be somewhat controversial (lyrical), it's pretty badass, aggressive a.f.  just as ISE and WTTJ was over 30 years ago. They haven't played it safe, it's a progressive band with progressive sounds. They have once again done things 'their way', and we finally got an official release. Personally I would have made the comeback song something like Atlas/Hardschool- but hey, it's not my band.....
Crank up the volume, mesmerise yourself in the Medusa clip, pour a whisky and just enjoy it! hah.

Nailed it...IMO

This release brought my enthusiasm for this band back.

I think it was a GREAT idea to drop a new track this way, that GnR was URGENTLY needing a move like this, and I also think releasing a ChiDem era song was another great and refreshing idea.

The song rocks hard. I know this since 2001, then the studio leak confirmed it, and this isn't the exception. Loved the video, the visuals, and the way Axl performed it live.

Just 2 negative things I can see:

1) Slash. Slash should not even appear on it. His bluesy/sloppy sound doesn't fit AT ALL with the modern/industrial sound the song has, and Richard has the needed skills to do the whole guitar parts. I dont see the reason why the band would replace the original guitar parts, when they were clearly better/superior

2) I didn't like the lyrics adaptation. I really REALLY miss the ''what can I do... with a bitch like you''.

Im crossing my fingers for MORE and MORE chidem era songs releases, specially ''Perhaps'' and ''Atlas''.  I think ''Perhaps'' has the level and the grandiosity of other Axl masterpieces like TWAT, Estranged, November Rain, etc.

I asked my friends what they think of the new GN'R song. The response was positive/neutral.

Im starting to be positive about a full length album release late this year/early next year.

difference is, it's not a first impression.
I mean, we had 20 years to evaluate the qualities of Silk...Absurd.

It's definitely divided opinions had they done another WTTJ, SCOM or November Rain they would have been lynched at dawn and accused of lacking in any fresh ideas ,I do think if they release an album it will be a mix of old and new sounds a bit like CD which isn't a bad thing.

So after listening to Absurd several times, its become an ear worm and I'm having trouble containing myself from blurting out 'pussy full of maggots', even while my kids are around  ;D

I think Axl released this as the first single for a few reasons:
1. As a fuck you to Geffen, getting his way  
2. As a "I won" to Slash, in that he got him to play on a song that could be considered emblematic of stylistic departure for GN'R that partially led to him leaving the band.  
3. It's content and aggressiveness demonstrates that Guns have not gotten soft in their older age.

Also, this nonsense about the "mistake" in the production is crap.  Axl is meticulous and precise, nothing is a mistake.  

Oh, add to that the possibility that one of the reasons why it was picked to be released was because some had already heard it, but not the finalized version.....




/jarmo

More I think on this - More I am optimistic that this is typical Gnr irony
That they actually have a lot of good stuff ready to go - but threw this out there as a probe / test case - see how it flies releasing in that fashion...nothing too fancy..just a punky nasty little thing - not to be taken too seriouisly..and prob got a chuckle knowing what's to come..hopefully in the near future

Then again I'm wrong more than I'm right on this topic so...... :-X

that a good point did we heard in the past of some people saying they heard a much different silk worms

If I had to pick a preferred version of silkworms it would be the 2000 demo and then if you layered slash’s guitar work onto that, musically and the vocal melody would make it something I’d be ok with being on an album. But the lyrics are probably the worst thing since my world. The only upside to the 2000 demo is that it didn’t feel the need to have a chorus, so we don’t have the awkward jamming of absurd in there or whatever he said in the live versions from the rock in rio era

Hopefully this is a taste before more stuff, and not like when oh my god was released. Cool that gnr is considering sharing new music with us, but baffled by their choice to go with something 21 years old and lyrically kind of out of touch

Atlas Shrugged to me is a mature bit of lyric writing with some nice reflection in there

Did anyone notice the different Copyright on the song? At least in Spotify.

Previous releases are Copyright Geffen or UMG.

Absurd is Copyright Guns N' Roses, under exclusive license to Geffen Records.



Yet another hint about how they needed to figure out how to release new music....




/jarmo

Yes. I noticed that right away. I was told by a very knowledgeable person that it means that they own the masters, and that they have likely renegotiated their record contract.

Ali

Thats actually a really cool point, and encouraging if they are just going their own way.

If the first jump to "Screaming fucking banshee" isn't an accident why is it so abrupt and placed in away that you literally can't complete the first phrase and move on to the next phrase live in the same way? Axl hasn't sung it that way in 2 straight shows. I can't see a reason for it, just seems like a splicing hiccup to get 1999-2000 recorded lyrics to match the new song structure. It also never comes in the same way the other times that line is repeated. Maybe it was just a rush job by Caram to get it out to take advantage of the press from playing it at Fenway. Not the end of the world, but cleary it was a minor oversight...

The man is not infallible, look back 13 years ago, it looked like a Malibu Pre School was given the job of typing up the Chinese Democracy liner notes.

Certainly the first release I've seen with this credit.

listened to it endlessly while walking in Paris streets tonight,
sounds very good and it's growing on me, I like the thing is
it doesn't sound like it's 1993, and it's more organic than
the previous version we used to know.

really curious to listen to the other tracks now...

There are guitars on the original? It sounds all electronic to me.

I think Slash fits well giving it that punky vibe. It doesn't even sound that industrial anymore besides the intro and Axl's vocal effect.


I highly doubt this is "sticking it to Slash" in any way. With guitars on it, it's really no longer that industrial. I mean, a melody itself can't be industrial, as that term really just describes instrumentation and effects. And proven by the fact that with guitars added and little else changed, it sounds like a punk song.

I agree Axl is meticulous, but if it was intentional, why doesn't he do it that way live? IDK, it just seems fishy.


Here's the thing about that: You can easily stretch or squish a splice with modern software without changing the pitch. And the verse wasn't even the part of the song they changed anyway. It's very weird.

Listen MOTHERFUCKERS to my SHIT POST that should be HEARD!!!


Pros:

The current line up is tinkering around with old tracks and releasing new music.
The simplicity of this track's lyrics actually caters to the modern day music listener's attention span and education level.

Cons:

The new chorus, where Axl just yells "Absurd," is a disaster compared to the original chorus line, it should have been left in place.
The structure of the song is not one where Slash can really show off his talent as a bluesy guitar player, this song should have been left in almost oridinal format and been a B-side to "Checkmate."

The Biggest Question:

Is this a song the band is really proud of, or just a quick plate full of scraps thrown to all us forum posters who been starving for a new track for thirteen years?

For Anyone Going To The Detroit Show:

Also, by the way, this is "Intensity" aka Mr. Intensity and a number of other names that was banned in the past. I'm from Detroit. Will be at the Detroit show Sunday. Let me know of any meet ups.

I hope I redeemed myself to Jarmo and the forum posters (who didn't enjoy me) when I bought up thirty or so tickets for the Hammerstein Ballroom shows when Finck/Bumblefoot was in the band and sold them all for face value at the HTGTH meet up party when everyone else was selling them for double or triple. Always been a bit of a troll at heart, but Jarmo runs a great ship here, and I'm happy to see how rewarded he is from the band.

Even though he may be an Axl nuthugger at times. (It's ok to admit bias Jarmo, I built a special home in my heart for Axl to, see you all in Detroit tomorrow night, and if Jarmo is there I'd love to buy you a top shelf drink or ten!)

I bought ten main floor GA tickets and half the people I am going with this is their first Guns N Roses show.

So the setlist is A.OK with me, just tell Axl to stop being a NIT and debut "Checkmate" or put the "Bitch Like You" chorus back into Silkworms and point at me for being so "ABSURD" to think the band takes requests!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Much love to you all.

I literally discovered I enjoyed writing and posting because of this forum in 1999 when I was bored at Central Michigan University, I think the band was working on "2000 Intentions."  :hihi:

-Justin Vitale aka Intensity aka now Lotgrinder.

 :peace:

I don't feel people should be calling this a "single." Singles get released to radio (yes, radio is still a thing and doing better than some may think, though too many local outfits were gobbled up by larger entities), streaming, etc., get a video, and are pushed potentially in ads or movie soundtracks, all to promote an album. There's generally a physical media release of some sort (oddly enough, despite being released to radio stations and charting in Canada at least, Street of Dreams was never considered a single).

While I do think Absurd is a positive sign for an album in 2022, I consider it more of a bonus track/gift for fans.

Well said. There's no indication that there's an album coming soon, and if there was, this would be on it.

Ali

Not so sure. I really think the band might be gearing itself up for a few single drops as the tour progresses with the songs part of an upcoming album, hopefully around the holidays later this year. It’s a great way to maintain momentum and fan interest and avoids the leak issue. Also just wanna say I am so damn happy this has happened  :peace:

What a surprising comment coming from someone with Robin Finck's name listed under their picture  ::)

The band replaced the old parts because those guys aren't in the band anymore.. pretty simple stuff

I’ve been wanting a studio version of this since 2001! : ok: Having Slash and Duff on the track is a nice bonus!

My two cents on the topic. I must say that I absolutely love the new version. It's different, it's provocative and it's brutal. As someone mentioned in the thread, it's a lot of PiL/Sex Pistols and for me personally I can hear a lot of Ministry as well. I love it. People who expect to hear old style Guns N' Roses should wake up as we are in 2021 not 1992. The band clearly show that they want to grow musically and experiment in different ways. The same bad press was initially said when the Illusions came out as it was different from the Appetite. Same thing for Chinese comparing to Illusions.

Friends of mine around me (especially musically related people and not huge GN'R fans such as singers, DJ's, guitar players, etc) liked it. They didn't expect to hear new GN'R music at all let alone this. But they liked it exactly because it's different. And in the same time if you are a die hard fan you can see it's not that different. Listen to Down On The Farm, parts of Civil War, Right Next Door to Hell, Black Leather, Perfect Crime, It's So Easy. All those have the provocative fuck off attitude which Absurd has as well. I get why it's not going to be the favorite track to lots of people, but hey, this is exactly why I love the band and the new song. Happy days for GN'R fans after all. We are waiting for the next single and album now. Looking forward.

Ministry! Good catch.
Agreed all around.

Has there been said anything from Axl, Dizzy or others in the band about the lurics. Is it a rant to some spesific people or? Anyone have a clue?

My spotify desktop app shows the number of times a song has been played, and so far Absurd has been streamed only 320,108 times.

My friend said Absurd sounds like something from The Spaghetti Incident?! Except its a original song.
I like his point of view.

I went to see how it sounded in Detroit and noticed the official single on youtube itself has almost 700k views

There is also Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, just to name a few. On AppleMusic/iTunes it was the number one streamed and downloaded rock song.

Yep

And oddly enough - on a silly local station here - I actually heard Gnr name as I was flipping through - and they were talking about the first Gnr single released in how many years

I was shocked to say the least -

I’m really enjoying the song, it’s a lot of fun and it sounded really great live in person the other night.

I think some might be over analyzing and over estimating the “importance” of this song.  There seems to be an added pressure by some fans that the first single that Axl, Slash and Duff put out is supposed to change life itself (I saw someone make a Wyld Stallyns analogy, that was perfect.)

GN’R’s legacy is set in stone.  Nothing they do from this point on is going to improve or diminish that, they are undisputed legends.  The songs they put out from now on are because it’s something they want to do, they don’t need to release another song ever again, they have a 3 hour set list full of hits with more songs to spare.    They are Stones and Aerosmith level.

I think the new song is really cool, and very different , I can’t stop listening to it.  I don’t really think about what it’s going to do for the bands legacy or image or whatever, or if this the “right” lead single etc. Its just my favorite band putting out new music and touring, it doesn’t get any better than that.

The best takeaways, in my view, in order :

- shows they actually didn't spend all last year doing nothing
- shows Slash and Duff to be pretty open minded
- shows they aren't just going to try and write '(Still) Out To Get Me' type material...in 2021

Well of course - you are right on with this - but at the same time it's the nature of the beast, right?
When your debut album is considered one of the best in history and unleashed on the world some of the best known rock anthems in history - it's difficult to stomach that 30 years later - a re-united Axl - Slash - Duff - who appear to be a fine-tuned touring wrecking machine - would put out NOT the next Paradise City but instead an odd sounding
re-working of a short tune and something seemingly created mostly by people who aren't even in the current lineup - just a paradox as usual.

I won't lie.  I would never have picked something this abrasive and this out there.  Not as the first time out.

Despite a lot of rampant denial and "well, actually..." type rationalizations, CD was a flop.  Made little impact at the time and has had no lasting impact in the years since.  GNR did not get in the Hall of Fame for anything past 1991.

So I do sort of question releasing something that could be written off "a 'Chinese Democracy' outtake sounding song".  You can say that's lazy and that's not accurate until god calls you.  You knew it would be said, and we already saw some of it.

I dig the tune.  Listened to it a lot the last week.  But they already had me.  Had me since 1988 in 6th grade. 

Do hope the next song is a bit more accessible to the masses.  Would not tempt fate by trying this approach twice.

If someone is interested in downloading the track in lossless quality.

https://www.qobuz.com/fi-en/album/absud-guns-n-roses/u8f3iyanyot7b

I have to say that I really started liking the tune when I was at the MetLife show. It kicks a$$ hearing it in person.

Thanks to the backwards R, here's a protip: "Alexa, play 'ab-soo-dee' by Guns N' Roses"

Very fair on all points

I don't love the tune - but as I believe you said in an earlier post - it's a positive thing all around to get something out there

Will say this - and ONLY speaking for myself here - if this song was released with Bucket / Fink still in the band - I think it would be looked at and judged a little differently
It's the "Slash and Duff on it" thing that just doesn't sit quite right with me - almost like - they should be better than this
But we don't know what we don't know, and I will continue to just be patient and hope that this is just a simple shot fired across the bough for better things to come

Peace

Slash and Duff aren’t listed in the credits for the song. We actually only know that Brain played drums. Just sayin’  :-[

Yeah, it's kinda silly the people saying Slash and Duff made it completely their own. They just did the existing electronic riffs on guitars. They didn't actually change anything, so of course they didn't get a writing credit. Hardschool looks to be the same deal, sadly.

I think that is very much Slash making it his own. The song feels completely different.

Ali

Has there been an update to the credits? The only thing it said was “other performers” or something like that for brain last I saw. I wonder if that is more for his “remixing and restructuring” of the tune. Can you imagine having toured with a band since 2009 essentially right after they released CD and 12 years later they release a single and you didn’t play on it… the guy you replaced 12 years ago did…

*** edit: saw the drums part of the credits***

I think they put only "Guns N Roses" in credits because of a kind of agreement, so no matter who write more or less on the songs, everything is of GNR. We have to think that are songs written in 1997/99/00, with the exception of Dizzy (and Axl), no one of that members is on the band now, may be in hardschool only.

Perhaps.

But they also didn't tell Axl, "get the fuck outa here with that noise".  To me, that is the bigger takeaway.

Slash and Duff have shown to be all time good sports, frankly.  'Chinese Democracy' and 'Better' have been in literally every show since April 2016 in Las Vegas.  And the earlier legs had multiple CD tunes.  I would not have blamed them one whit if they told Axl they weren't playing that stuff. 

But they have.

Silly? They made it sound more like classic GN'R. Less industrial.


Speaking of silly, the ones who say things like "it wasn't good enough for Chinese Democracy". Well in that case You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry and November Rain weren't good enough for Appetite....  :hihi:

Just because a song doesn't fit an album doesn't mean it's not good enough.





/jarmo

I agree with Jarmo. Slash and Duff made it sound much closer to old school GN'R, albeit the more punk influenced side.

Ali

Jarmo, when do you think they will release Hard School? :beer:

It's been less than a week since Absurd was released.

I refuse to start guessing on the next release date now......




/jarmo

Just curious if you had heard anything new? :beer:

No




/jarmo

Even Pitman said, in 2008 or someting?  That it was different from lots of the Chinese material and eould be released later... he said it sounded like GnR 15 years in the future... he was right about the timeframe

Let's take a step back.... GN'R has just released a new studio recording featuring Axl, Slash and Duff!

First one in 27 years! It's pretty insane...

I can't wait for the continuation.

I think the only thing that could stop GNR's plans is the covid virus.it is getting bad again and could cancel the rest of the tour. Hopefully it doesn't get to that point and we get to see GNR's plans. :beer:

I'm probably biased considering my nick and all, but I'd love to hear some good old hard rock aswell. Yes it is "old" but I bet it still is the music style that most GNR fans like to hear. I don't mind a bit of experimentation, but Absurd would've been better without the echoed vocals and the 20 years old sounding "instrumental" noise. Guitar, drums and bass are timeless but those effects age really fast.

so agree

I'm fine with the track so this isn't a complaint about the style of the song... BUT... Lets be honest, this sound has since died. While Rock is far from the most popular brand of music, falling far behind Hip Hop, Pop, and Country nationally (at least in the US)... When is comes to Rock one of the most popular and successful bands right now is Greta Van Fleet, if anything they have proven that an AFD or Zeppelin like album would probably be better received than a late 90's early 2000's industrial sounding album. That 'Brand' of music had a pretty small window.

****HAVING SAID THAT****

Axl seems as happy and as comfortable with his surroundings (Slash, Duff, Team Brazil, 4TUS, ect...) as he has, maybe ever... If that gets him to release OMG with Slash on it, than I'm going to accept it with open arms and a smile. I'll take what I can get and what HE wants to release.

Numetal is coming back.
Im not joking, and its not a bad thing either. There was some good stuff in there.

Im not saying Absurd is numetal. Just that that late 90s sound is getting trendy again.

I'd like to hear this "Still Out Ta Get Me" you speak of...

Out 2 Get Me

Duff played it as the last song on his sirius show. I missed his comments before he played it. I’ll have to listen to the replay.

He also played down on the farm about 45 mins before that.

Absurd fuckin rocks!!!

I’m excited by Aburd - after several times listening to the number I like it
I had never heard “ Silkworms” until last week
The new version destroys the old one

Slash’s take makes this song killer
I hope Slash plays on all the unreleased stuff from
Cd - Slash makes it sound rocking

And then have a album of new songs

Release 2 albums
I really live the song Absurd

The only thing I think could have been better is during the breakdown - Slash should have Wah Wah a solo to go along with it

My two cents:
I have given the song 2 weeks now. Heard it about 20-30 times. Seen the «video» to the song. Heard the live versions.

Sorry, but it hasnt grown on me (like I’d hope it would).
I’m not an expert in analyzing, can’ really go in deep and explain «why» it sounds like it does to me.
But the maestro Axl that I remember, that in my mind was (is!) the most amazing vocalist, lyricist, melody maker - this isn’t like him (them). Last time I felt the same about a song was my world back in 91. Fortunately back then we had 29 other new songs to listen to.
If I didn’t know better, I would say they had some obligations to record company to put out something new within a time frame, and this was a big fu to that….

Oh well. Lots of feelings here I guess. Disappointment.
Still glad they have released something  ;D
Hoping and crossing fingers for more (and better stuff) to come.

-Eirik

I think Absurd was better choice than hard skool cause it was nice to remember GNR as a dangerous bad ass rock band.
Most would expect SCOM or NR 2.0 or some really well manufactured radio song but instead we got a song that perfectly represents who GNR were and are. Everyone else was going left in the 80s they were going right

Same here, GNR were never meant to be a love song band and would be easy to fall into that formula

Fun little mashup/remix I did for Absurd.

https://youtu.be/FTHrlcYQfyw

I mean, if nothing else it shows that they are as full of piss and vinegar as ever and will write whatever they want to, not what they think will sell albums or singles.

I love it honestly. Only thing I would change would be bring back the old chorus cause I find myself singing it every time anyway.

Physical release being worked on.

Pressing vinyl just takes a bit longer due to the capacity at the pressing plants...




/jarmo

Great!

Interesting, so I guess it is a single, but maybe not an album single?

Was that a single, an EP, or an LP?  :beer:

I'm elated to hear about a vinyl pressing. Hoping Fernando was referring to an entire album being pressed but I'll take a 7" single too :)

Anything would be great, that's for sure. I know you probably can't say Jarmo lol

I’ll second that question!  ;D

Well he's posting it in the Absurd thread, so I think that's a clear hint.

Not a criticism, but would it really be worth going to the trouble of pressing just a single in this day and age?

Yes!

Even if it's just a single, it's great news. Besides, singles in physical format are normally 1-3 songs, right?

I'm pretty sure there has to be another track in there...the question is...which?

Hard School? a new cover?

If there's actually a b-side, it will not be available digitally until the physical format has been released.

I can't wait!

I'm hoping for 7"  with a B- side and 12" with the B-side and another more  song, new or a live version. And when the physical release is ready a streaming release.

My thoughts exactly!
It's not their best single maybe, but far from worst, least liked song. I like it, it's like "Taste good dont't it" meets "My World". Attitude and even music is def gnr, but not from the expected angle in the mainstream, which is good.
Who likes, or cares about mainstream? Fuck that!

Anyone looked into Beta's comments on Absurd? Apparently she replied to a fan in Portuguese that the song will be on the CD. I'm just wondering if that was translated new album, or literally CD as in Chinese Democracy (maybe the mythical remix album or a deluxe set or something).

I hope they pass on this song. :beer:

Public not exactly clamoring for more CD though, are they?

GNR's FB page today has a pic of the setlist from last night and asks "what would you add"?

- Total requests to add a CD song, any CD song : ZERO
- Total requests CD songs are dropped entirely : MANY

The funny thing is, when Axl has introduced Absurd, he's said things like "you might not like it, but we will play it anyway.....".  ;D





/jarmo

I can't really understand the people, especially hardcore fans, who would like to hear another Welcome To The Jungle, Sweet Child, November Rain, etc. I get that some may not like Absurd but asking for a copy-paste of the hits is just as Absurd as the song itself. As I said, I adore the new song and I am really excited with the direction that they are going. I hope the next song will be even more aggressive and dirty, however I'm pretty sure it will be more for the generic public. On the other hand, perhaps that's just me. No wonder I'm that huge fan of the band because of Garden Of Eden, Right Next Door To Hell and plenty of others non-famous tracks. 

I think the same way. Would be dreamy if they could play maybe some theaters, clubs even, with a setlist whitout almost all, if not all "classics". Only new material/ deep cuts.
Kinda liberating for everybody on the stage and in an at least hardcore audience  to go  a show whitout Paradise City, KOHD....Just start with "Oh My God" and let loose...

Occam's Razor: She's talking about the physical CD copies of the Absurd single.

As far as the setlist, I think they'll have more freedom after the NITL tour is over. Obviously the reunion attracts a lot of fair-weather fans who won't stick around for the album and beyond.

The NITL tour is over we’re fk back is the current tour :beer:

Axl, Slash, Duff and Dizzy is listed as writers on ASCAP.

Makin' F@*!IN' Videos - Part 4

https://twitter.com/CreativeWorksUK/status/1436013336467021830

What's the music in the background? It's saying Absurd, right?

Yep. Sounds like a remix...An absurd,IMO! :rofl:

No surprise Dizzy is listed, he actually wrote the original. Strange that Slash and Duff are considered to have added enough to get credit, but maybe they're just splitting the credit on everything from now on?

Basically just a commercial for the Unreal Engine.

It was a joke...