Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Axl has done a brief interview with an Icelandic newspaper here:

https://www.frettabladid.is/lifid/guns-nroses-leggja-allt-undir-fyrir-adaendurna


A bad 'Google translate' version of it is the best I can do. Maybe somebody could do a more accurate translation?

Guns N'Roses put everything under the attention of the fans

More than 7% of the Icelandic people gather at Laugardalsvellir tonight on a long-lasting Guns N'Roses concert. The rock dogs are no less excited, but the singler Axl Rose informs Fréttablad that he had long wanted to play for Icelandic fans.

Guns N 'Roses swept through the wonderful appetite for Destruction album for over 30 years, after which the world began to grow. They took the rock style, not least known for drugs and sex, all the while, have been controversial and similar to visitors on pages of gossip and popularity lists.

Something has calmed down over the years, but in the field, the old GNR is released, and they show that they have little forgotten when the guitar fights, Slash, runs the machine running off its magnificent fancy power.

Iceland is the finale of their long-term music event, Not in This Lifetime, which began in March 2016. Behind it is an amazing number of concerts and the drive on the band has been hard to focus on asking Axl, who answers one of the few interviews that the band has provided on the tour, how they keep on keeping their mythical fool on stage after a concert.

"We just want everyone to do our best for the fans, each other and our crew. Each one continues to encourage their solitude and achievement, "says Axl.

Have you experienced some particularly memorable highlights during this long tour?

"What concerts and every audience are unique. There is always something different and the memorable moments are as different as they are many. "

It's less than so given and no brains come to play in full for three and a half hours at each concert. What do you do to keep this concert out after a concert?

"We are different individuals and each has its own means to keep it in physical shape for it, but when it's done, you just have to do what you do to do what we do," says Axl. about the simple philosophy that keeps the band fresh.

Axl Rose simply does what it takes to rock like 1987.

Created for a long time along the way

With your concert in Reykjavík, decades ago, the dream of many of your Icelandic fans will be fulfilled. Have you ever thought about playing in Iceland, and did you usually know that the country existed when your popularity was at its absolute peak around 1990?

"Yes. We have long wanted to have a concert in Iceland and of course we knew that this country existed! "

Is there any special feeling to get to the stage in a new place after all this time in the business?

"We only think of giving everyone to meet the expectations of our fans so that they enjoy themselves and enjoy the concert. And maybe some new fans have got along the way from among those who could only see just how all the scenery and condition are. "

Is there any specific song on your program that is in a special favorite of you and always kicks you in the field when you play it in the field?

"I'm not sure" kissing us in the field "is the right wording, but at the moment I'm singing to Wichita Lineman," says Axl, but the band has taken his version of this famous song, Glens Campbell, who died last year. , during their tour of this tour.

"The currents from this song are so keen, especially after Glen dropped off and reminded me of the sound of our version very much on the old Guns song."


It's safe to say that both your fans and the industry have made your return to the Not in This Lifetime Tournament immensely successful. Has this enabled you to come up with new content in the near future?

"Accurate now, we only concentrate on the tour and the next concert but the atmosphere is good and it's been a good thing that it's never known."

Icelanders are a bit self-reliant and partly because of the feeling of the attitude of their world-famous visitors to the country and the nation so I have to ask you to respect me to ask you a few questions about Albanian.

Do you have something special that you want to do while you are in Iceland and are there any likelihood of stalling and relaxing here after the concerts that are the last of this long tour?

"It would be very nice, but the best thing to say, I have not thought so far."

Have you heard of any Icelandic musicians who have drawn your special attention?

"I think Björk is one of the best known and I'm her great fan."

Albanian?

I had no idea either! Google Translate is pretty shit...so could be anything!

"Accurate now, we only concentrate on the tour and the next concert but the atmosphere is good and it's been a good thing that it's never known."


So basically "no, but there's no drama, so we'll see..."

Perhaps this will finally convince those last clingers to stop thinking there is some super secret new music coming.

This is a touring band.  That's it.  Maybe they do this again in 3-4 years.  Best we are going to do.

I'm hoping some sort of archive clearing release might happen. Not altered, re-recorded, just all the leftover stuff from the CD era we know exists but have never heard, in whatever state it's in. I'm sure there's enough of us that want to hear it to make it commercially viable.

Other than that - I think you're right. I'm not sure it'll be in 3-4 years though - I'd anticipate sooner than that, but to smaller audiences. I have absolutely no idea what the demand for ongoing tours is though. Based on the people around me at the NITL shows there's no demand for anything that isn't AFD really....so I have not a clue about the bands popularity.

They can shift tickets at present to a certain demographic.....but it's blank faces all round even for the likes of Coma, let alone CD era tracks, so whether the people attending are in any way actual 'fans' of the band, as I would construe the word 'fan', I just don't know. Personally, I doubt they really give two damns beyond buying a AFD shirt, sticking on a bandanna, and playing along with the 'remember the 80s' act, until the next bands show rolls up........

Well, you have the bucket list factor.  People that did it to check it off, and are good now. 

But, I think the band is popular enough to still do arenas in the most cities.  Just may have to get a little more realistic about ticket prices.  $300 is not going to fly next time.

Honestly it still amazes me people thought any new music would surface from this reunion,sad to say it was what it was a tour that while making lots of cash perhaps put to bed the resentment  between members,myself it makes me rather if not sad then melancholic at the missed opertunity that’s guns n roses,AFD is the best rock all since the sex pistols debut and sadly it’s what your casual punter is interested in sad as they made the more interesting music post appetite in my opinion.

So the future they carry on touring I hope so but I suspect it’ll be larger arenas next time perhaps,expanded back catalogue/from the vaults type affairs is there a commercial demand for it? I suspect the bean counters will be looking at sales of the AFD set before they decide that one,gut feeling the demand isn’t there,but I could be wrong.

No new music coming ever and Axl's favourite song in the set is Wichita Lineman.

I love this band, always have :peace: :beer:

Nothing New, Only Funny moment

 :smoking:

I mean...maybe.

But that translation is so bad ("kissing us in the field"??) its hard to draw conclusions from it.

He could have easily said: "Things are great.  Right now, we're focused on getting through these last shows, but the energy is great, better than it's ever been, and we'll see what happens after we're done."

And the translation back and forth could have gotten you the above.

We'll see.....

It's just a shame that Axl is seemingly artistically bankrupt.  It's awesome the tour has been as successful as it has, but I just don't get why one excludes the other.  Usually new music and tours go hand in hand.  I just don't get why he's so adverse to putting out finished music.  Slash certainly has that craving to create and share said creation.  Frustrating...

LOL, I love how many of you are like "See? No new music ever!" when all he really said was that they aren't working on any now, but who knows in the future.



 :rofl:

http://icelandmag.is/article/interview-axl-rose-guns-nroses-reykjavik-concert-largest-icelandic-history

Interview with Axl Rose: Guns N'Roses' Reykjavík concert largest in Icelandic history

The US rock band Guns N'Roses held a concert in Reykjavík yesterday night, drawing a crowd of 25,000 fans (7% of the Icelandic nation), making it the largest rock concert ever held in Reykjavík. The band played for 3.5 hours, playing all of their most popular hits.

Axl Rose sat down for an interview with Þórarinn Þórarinsson, saying the band has been planning to play in Iceland for a long time.

Many of your Icelandic fans have been waiting and hoping to see you perform in Iceland. Have you ever considered playing in Iceland before? Did you even know that Iceland existed back in 1990?

"Yes we’ve wanted to play Iceland for a long time and of course we knew it existed!"

You´ve toured the world a few times over but how does it feel going on stage in a new place after being in the industry so long?

"We just want to do a good job for the fans, that after the show they leave feeling they had a good time and maybe make some new fans that just came to see what the fuss was about."

How do you keep on giving such showstopping performances every time and what’s been the highlight of the tour so far?

"Everyone just wants to do their best for the fans, each other and our crew. Everyone pushes each other with their performance and commitment. And with highlights, every show, every crowd is different with something to remember about each one."

It’s not so easy to perform for 3 ½ hours, consistently at every show. How to you guys pull this off concert after concert?

"Everyone’s different. Each of us have our own fitness preferences. Ultimately you gotta do what you gotta do to do what we do."

You´ve been on the Not in This Lifetime tour since April 2016 and you the response has been great, both from your fans and the industry. Have you considered following this through by bringing out some new stuff in the near future?

"Right now our focus is on touring and the shows but everyone seems to be getting along so you never know."

Since Iceland is a small nation and very self aware I must ask you to bear with me now, when I bring up a few classic “Icelandic questions” because people here somehow love to read about what our famous guests think of Iceland.

Is there any chance you’ll hang around and relax on our little island for a while since this will be your last concert on the tour?

"That’d be nice! But honestly I haven’t thought that far ahead."

Are there any Icelandic musicians that you have come across that stand out for you?

"I’d imagine Bjork’s the most well known and I’m a big fan."

Do you have a favorite song on your setlist that always gets you fired up playing while performing on stage?

"I don’t know if fired up’s the right phrase for this but for me right now I really enjoy singing Wichita Lineman. It has such a haunting vibe especially with Glen’s passing and our version feels a lot like old Guns acoustically to me."

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/jarmo

^thanks Jarmo. That makes a lot more sense now. It's not like Axl's dismissing the possibility of making new GNR music outright, but he says right now the focus is on the tour. Slash's new album comes out in September and as far as I know the writing process of that started before the reunion was even announced, so really, who knows, if everyone's interested then maybe there'll be new GNR music sometime in the future, but I ain't holding my breath for it though.

Not really, the translation was quite sufficient. If you read something in better English it could change the meaning a little but in this case it didn't.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/axl-rose-interview-2018/

He wasn't exactly Johnny Ambition even in his prime though.

Think of it like exercise.  It gets harder to get up for as you get older.  And it gets easier to just give it a dismissive wave and say you're good with how things are.

I recall a quote from Brett Favre that said he still loves the game.  But hadn't had love for training camp in some time.  In Axl's terms, he still loves the game (live shows) but hasn't had love for training camp (creating new music) in some time.

Nice read. Dont think i have ever heard the original Wichita Lineman version. But loved the GnR version of it. Maybe i will check out the original someday

I think maybe he was traumatised with how CHidem was released. Basically creating music with the label saying its not good enough, just to release it and have fans say the same thing. What is ironic is that if the label had given them freedom, the music itself would've been free and thus more successful. 

So of course now, maybe they are still tied to the label (who knows) and going through that again is just to much pain to even start thinking about it.

They should create music at home and personal recording studios anyway though. Just for fun, without having the pressure to release anything.
Maybe Axl's thinking about the big picture though and that's why he can't start, he should just make baby steps, enjoy creating one day at a time. In no time you'll have a lot. BUt if you think about the big picture, you'll never get anything done.

Maybe Axl will take the road of his idol Billy Joel and has decided to just stop creating. Not even releasing the material he has.

I think this nails it.

But now, let's make you Slash.  Or Duff.  When they want to record and create, they just get on with it.  So they can do that with other people, or they can sit on their hands and hope the spirit someday moves Axl.

To me, the fact Slash got right back with Myles tells me that he doesn't see too much change from Axl on this front.  I think he appreciates Axl's more professional attitude at the shows, and his seemingly more pleasant demeanor in general.  But I think it didn't take Slash too long to give Axl a quick once over and come to the conclusion that's he still the same tortured soul.  Only now, carrying around even more baggage then the last time Slash tried this with him in 1995.

You've been on the Not in This Lifetime tour since April 2016 and you the response has been great, both from your fans and the industry. Have you considered following this through by bringing out some new stuff in the near future?
"Right now our focus is on touring and the shows but everyone seems to be getting along so you never know."


That sounds way different than "No, I have zero interest in ever working on anything new".

He's just stating the obvious for people who didn't think of it. They're on tour. They were on tour when the interview was done. That's the focus.





/jarmo

I see it as a posiive reply really, Slash is promoting a new record now. Axl wont go saying a new GNR album is on the way it would be counter productive for Slash too.
Im pretty sure they have discussed this and already made plans for it, they will probably wait for the right momento to announce whatever is next, probably sometime next year. This is just pure speculation obviously :)

I’m not sure why anyone would expect new material. The tour wasn’t a special favor to fans, it was a lucrative business venture. An album certainly wouldn’t be bring in vast amounts of money and almost certainly would be several notches below AFD and UYI in quality. It doesn’t seem like they collectively want the toil of creating new material. It’s not like 1986 and they’re all hungry and living together in some West Hollywood rathole. What’s really in it for them? Unless they wanted to, which they don’t. This isn’t a complicated puzzle.

I think you are reading too much into this. As another poster pointed out, Slash has a record and tour coming out soon. This was planned before the reunion.  In fact, I'll be going to the Wellmont in Montclair, NJ to support Slash.  I don't think it would be wise for Axl to talk about new music at this time considering one of the factors that broke them up was getting their stories twisted in the media. Additionally,  they just did a 2.5 year tour that is going down as one of the most successful in rock history.

After Soundgarden reunited, it took them a couple of years to release an album. Give it time!

This question, will GNR put out new music, got a lot of press.  Seems to of major interest.

The tour has been the focus, that is correct. Touring has been the only focus since 2008... They even released a Blu-Ray (somewhat grudgingly perhaps) showing them touring.

They haven’t focussed on new music as GNR, and there are no signs or evidence that they ever will.

Glad the man put that one to bed.

That's just your take on what he said. Doesn't mean it's the truth.




/jarmo

I think should any recording occur - we'll hear about it. We heard about the AC/DC rehearsals, and those were totally unexpected. If they're in the same studio somewhere, it'll leak out, one way or the other.

Regardless of how we choose to interpret Axl's words though, we're a long long way off hearing anything. Playing live is very different to trying to undertake a creative and collaborative process - which sometimes takes years and years even for bands who don't have the acrimonious past history of GNR. The process takes a lot of give and take, a lot of patience, all that sort of thing - not to mention whether the material would be deemed by all parties to be good enough to officially release.

The notion that some had that the band were just going to 'knock out' a new single is crazy. I even heard people say "oh they've been writing and recording on the road" at one point as if it was fact. Absolutely ludicrous.

Personally I feel that, sadly, too much has gone on in the past to make new material very likely at all. I hope that's not the case of course, and time will of course tell.  I also don't feel that it's 'laziness' or 'not caring' or anything like that, but something a lot deeper and more complicated, that'll take time to work itself out.

Sounds like they are going to start looking very seriously at what they are doing in that regard.

That's a relief.

Yeah... Until in around January European Summer 2019 is announced >:(

European Summer Tour would be great  : ok:

"We're concentrating on the tour..."

Makes you wonder what the hell he does during the giant breaks in between tour legs.  Certainly not thinking about putting out music, obviously...

What do you do when you are not working? Do you think about work or relax? Being it's a Friday night work is the furtherest thing on my mind.  Touring for 2.5 years is a lot of work. For us it's entertainment and a way to get away from the daily grind or other situations that may go on in someone's life. For them, this is work. I'm sure they enjoy it, but it's still work.

My thoughts exactly.  I went on a tour including many gigs plus the World Cup as well. Now I'm just happy to be back in the daily grind. Friday night and a few beers after an easy week at work. For a travelling fan it is hard work to do 2.5 weeks and some do the same but years.

When you finally get home and get to do whatever that is you do, surely you don't think about creating new music or work today. You just want to relax and do nothing. There must be tons of episodes to watch on Netflix for instance.

Also, home is home no matter if you get to stay in some fancy hotels. It's still foreign lands.

Surely, the man has a plan but he has earned his rest now :peace:

Has anyone asked Jarmo how he is after a long tour.

Yeah I’m not sure what universe we are in, where a direct quote from someone else, works out to be ‘my take’ on the matter...

Then you can add the complete lack of new material since 2008 as further evidence if you like, given even Axl’s word is apparently not good enough any more...

You mean lack of released material?

The direct quote does not imply the assumptions you made. That's reality.

Here's the quote again: "Right now our focus is on touring and the shows but everyone seems to be getting along so you never know."

There's a but in there that you seemed to ignore.


Also, he knows better than to "promise" anything. Remember that time he said "this isn't a promise"?




/jarmo

Guns N'Roses, Focusing on Touring Since 2008

They put out a new release a month ago.  :D




/jarmo

Who knows who put it out. If you ask the band members, have they even heard of the new release : ok:

Are you implying that the band didn't know about it?

The fact that they posted about it on social media and the fact that it includes photos from Axl's personal archive would say otherwise.





/jarmo

you're right, and it's a fact I can't honestly deny. :D

concerning that particular band, and I don't really know why, we all (almost) have the fantasy of being the manager,
and we all wish different things at different times. I suppose it's some kind of fan frustration, and there's a ton of legit reasons to explain it.
the inaptitude of the guys to stay together to build a dense and wide discography a la Stones, Zeppelin or even Aerosmith, mainly.

about new music, I'm all for it if it's a punch in my face. I don't want Appetite 2, but I want something nasty, vicious, which sets the record straight.
and bring Izzy back for the writing process...maybe not the easiest thing to do since he's not part of the reunion tour, but I think it's essential to feel
the essence of GNR.

Would I love nothing more then to hear New GNR music of course I would. But lets look at this realistically Axl i think might be approaching this like Billy Joel has who hasn't made a new record since the 90s and still sells out any where he goes. If you can continue to go out and tour and enjoy playing the music that you have created that millions love why not just enjoy that. 

You want these guys out their having fun on the road and enjoying what they do not just making an album because public opinion says they should if it happens great if not find another band to get into because their seems to be no rush to get new music out their and im willing to bet you get a release of old UYI stuff like they did with appetite before any new material might show.

It's the same with sports fans. A bunch of them think they could do a better job than the manager(s) of their favorite teams....



I've yet to see any evidence that there's zero interest in ever putting out any new GN'R music. That's my opinion. I think when the time is right, things will happen.

After all, this tour is called Not In This Lifetime. Many didn't think they'd ever see this happen and here we are.....  :hihi:



/jarmo

The way I see it, GNR will make one or two albums, tour, and possibly retire afterwards. I just don't see Axl, Slash, and Duff  letting TSI be the last album that they worked on.  With that being said, I'm going to support their efforts on either their solo projects or Axl/DC  project.

Of course he does. ‘Maybe there will be new music’ = interested fans and supports three more years of touring...

It’s the oldest trick in the marketing book and he plays it for all it’s worth.

Meanwhile we don’t get anything new, just a ton of speculation from people thinking Axl saying ‘who knows’ somehow means a new album is imminent...

Apart from having already stated what my take on that quote means, to me it means: 1. We haven’t created anything new together. 2. We have no plan to create anything new together. 3. There is a possibility of new music, I am not completely ruling it out but please refer to points 1 and 2 before you get your hopes up...

Ah yes, the box set with 71 “new” songs’ on it?  ;D

Only in GNR world is re-releasing the same 30+ year old songs in a different format considered “new”... And FYI, I actually like the boxset. But let us not kid ourselves, the only thing ‘new’ in that is the merch and the marketing...

Yes, only in GNR land does a 30 year old cover song count as a new release.  No one has confirmed whether any parts (including vocals) of SOYL were re-recorded, so it's possible there is absolutely nothing new with this song.

But you always got to keep the hope alive, you never know, right (secretly, I think we really know, but don't want to admit it).

Your logic makes no sense. So you're saying that the belief of there being new music at some point in the future means they can tour for three more years? Where does that formula come from?

What would it take to support, let's say, four more years of touring?




To me it means "It's possible, but I'm not gonna say too much because people take what I say and twist it into meaning something completely different that what I actually said."





You didn't get the point.

Focused on touring was the so called fact. I just pointed out that they took the time to put a new release out. Yes, "only" an AFD boxset, but still something that's not related to touring....

Obviously it wasn't the release you hoped for. But still, they did it. Just sticking to facts.


Also, because some of those songs were unreleased, they could be considered new!  :hihi:  :P
Hope you're enjoying them. I am. Enjoying the things we got instead of being upset about what we don't.... :)





/jarmo

I don't get why you are so supportive of everything they do be it right or wrong do you work for them?or have close ties to someone within the GnR camp ,yeah it was great to see part of the original line up back together but Axl said at the start of it in that bizzare Q&A he did with some corporate monster that they would be doing brand new music but all we got was a rehashed Appetite with demos, live  songs etc that's fine but isn't time they moved away from that material and put out new music.Slash goes off with his side project announce a a new album and tour WTF is that all about surely he should be focused on GnR and banging heads together to get away from this forever nostalgic trip that they have been on since 2000 .

 :D



Some see the glass as half empty, others don't. That's how it is.

The only reason I brought up the AFD re-issue is because some keep repeating the "they've only been focusing on touring since XXXX" line. It's only true IF you choose to ignore actual facts.





/jarmo

All he said was that, when he was asked the question, the band was focusing on the tour.

He didn't say they don't want to put out anything new. Or that they never will.




/jarmo

Stone Roses recorded two singles, and certainly were in a studio recording a new album. I guess from the fact it's never appeared they considered it not good enough - the singles were pretty awful!

What excites me much is unreleased material from the CD era....probably more than any new recordings if I'm being honest.

You would rather CD outtakes than something new from the current line-up?

I do specially from 1999/2004.

@Executioner
You think all that confetti just magically appears on it's own at the end of PC every show??  ;)
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/05d3ac001369cba31ec9fa9ce7d9a2c7/5C098049/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/36672678_217514202235127_5197349764659675136_n.jpg)

Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty

 :hihi:

I know I'm probably in the massive minority....but yeah! I'm a huge fan of CD and think it's one of the greatest all time albums. I hear something new to love in it everytime. The thought that there are more tracks out there, or evem different variations, that I can't hear makes me sad. Obviously I'd welcome new material with the current line up enthusiastically....but that unreleased stuff? Yeah, I think if I had to choose one or the other I'd go with that. I mean, in an ideal world I'd get both......

I Prefer  :love:

ChineDem-Era Music

 :beer:

... uhh, what? Saying "maybe there will be new music" would get somebody who is interested in new music to buy tickets to a show featuring no new music?

The 2nd recent new song the Stone roses did was an epic tune most fans would agree, as for Axl and co if Izzy was involved then a new album would definitely be a possibility whether he jumps on board at some point is open to debate, hopefully Slash or Duff might give some straight answers as to what lies ahead maybe Axl has committed himself to AC⚡DC next year but at the very  least I hope GnR release a live CD/DVD  of the tour.

The part of the interview that has been discussed forth and back in previous posts under this topic is the following in Icelandic: „Akkúrat núna einbeitum við okkur bara að túrnum og næstu tónleikum en stemningin er góð og þetta hefur gengið það vel að það er aldrei að vita.“
Now, bear in mind that this interview was taken before the band came to Iceland and was done over a phone. Reading rest of the interview, it was apparent that Axl was not giving too much depth into his answers and kept them short. Anyways, here comes direct translation from this particular part of the interview: "Right now, we are focusing on the tour and the next concerts but the vibe is good and this has gone that well that you never know."
Anyways, might not change the overall context but at least here you have the most direct translation out there.

It was not disclosed anywhere that it was only a phone call ???

If that is the case then surely he just wanted to get rid of the stupid call.

Maybe in your view- but in the mind of most fans I know the song was trash. I's likely the band thought so too as they didn't bother playing it in their live set and apparently scrapped the album after. Each tontheor own and all that but to describe it as 'epic' is a bit much! It went down very poorly.

Which is another point I guess- would people prefer no new material or new material that was rubbish? I think I'd rather hear nothing than a hurried and slapdash new single....

You Looking Picture Of Izzy & Richard 2006?

Strong rumours that ac/dc are in the studio....with Brian. Farewell tour and new songs to be announced.

If true, then it's an interesting new development.....

I don't think we need to worry about Axl releasing an underdeveloped song anytime soon.  :hihi:

Honestly it could be the best thing for both Slash and Axl, because Slash has been pumping out music too fast and the quality has suffered lately, whereas Axl spends forever. Any kind of middle ground they reach would probably be just the right thing.


That is quite the twist. It could certainly give Axl time to work on an album before any return to AC/DC if that were still in the cards after Brian's farewell.

Middle ground would be very good as it is mostly in life. Communism didn't work and capitalism isn't too good either. Something in the middle.

There is no point in ruining the GNR legacy by putting rubbish out but isn't it also a little ruined if nothing happens.

Just FYI:

The rumors I've heard aren't just a "Brian" farewell.  It's an AC/DC farewell. One last album and a farewell tour.

But we'll see.