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Title: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: izzyjim on June 23, 2018, 06:54:25 AM Cool video, footage from the recent tour, audio is studio version
https://youtu.be/0RizLhYFpac Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: HBK on June 23, 2018, 12:55:50 PM :love:
Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: reayj2003 on June 23, 2018, 01:23:22 PM So who is playing on this? It doesn’t sound like a demo.
Has it been worked on?? Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: Bridge on June 24, 2018, 01:22:41 AM So who is playing on this? It doesn’t sound like a demo. Has it been worked on?? Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums. Here's Steven's interview; it starts out with him talking about his next shows, and ends with him commenting on "Shadow of Your Love". https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/18/steven-adler-thinks-guns-n-roses-newly-released-version-of-shadow-of-your-love-is-re-recorded-audio/ (https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/18/steven-adler-thinks-guns-n-roses-newly-released-version-of-shadow-of-your-love-is-re-recorded-audio/) Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: izzyjim on June 24, 2018, 03:22:18 AM (https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/45417256/this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-things.jpg)
Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: jarmo on June 24, 2018, 05:46:15 AM Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums. It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone. I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner". This was never released. Listen to any of the tracks released so far and they sound great compared to any of the bootlegs. Sounds more like they took the time to actually properly transfer the tapes, mix and master the tracks to today's standards.... /jarmo Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: imsorry on June 24, 2018, 06:55:15 AM i think him didnt noticed it cuz its triggered with samples i recongnize CLA samples from miles of distance great work as usually, hope he can work more with GN'R for the future.
Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: reayj2003 on June 24, 2018, 12:26:15 PM Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums. It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone. I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner". This was never released. Listen to any of the tracks released so far and they sound great compared to any of the bootlegs. Sounds more like they took the time to actually properly transfer the tapes, mix and master the tracks to today's standards.... /jarmo But the “Jungle” demo we’ve heard sounds nothing like this. Why don’t you just ask Frank if it’s him playing drums Jarmo? Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: allwaystired on June 25, 2018, 11:23:18 AM It's weird how absolutely adamant Steven is that it's not him playing. Could he simply be mistaken? Possible.
Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: jarmo on June 25, 2018, 11:27:22 AM To me it makes little sense to have Frank drumming on a track recorded in 1986.....
/jarmo Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: allwaystired on June 25, 2018, 11:38:23 AM To me it makes little sense to have Frank drumming on a track recorded in 1986..... /jarmo Only reason to re-record I think would be if the drums hadn't been recorded properly in the first place, or 'cleaning up' wasn't possible for some reason. I honestly think we'd know about though if Frank had recorded them. I'm going for Steven's memory not being perhaps as good as it should be.... Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: Spirit on June 26, 2018, 07:42:43 AM Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums. It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone. I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner". This was never released. Listen to any of the tracks released so far and they sound great compared to any of the bootlegs. Sounds more like they took the time to actually properly transfer the tapes, mix and master the tracks to today's standards.... /jarmo But the “Jungle” demo we’ve heard sounds nothing like this. Why don’t you just ask Frank if it’s him playing drums Jarmo? Different studios, different sessions. Recording technique probably different. Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: PermissionToLand on June 27, 2018, 08:28:34 PM So who is playing on this? It doesn’t sound like a demo. Has it been worked on?? Steven Adler has claimed this new version is re-recorded, and that someone else is playing drums. It definitely sounds like it's been re-recorded; the drums are missing Steven's swing, and Slash's guitar work is almost obviously redone. I prefer the original demo, even if the new recording is "cleaner". Here's Steven's interview; it starts out with him talking about his next shows, and ends with him commenting on "Shadow of Your Love". https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/18/steven-adler-thinks-guns-n-roses-newly-released-version-of-shadow-of-your-love-is-re-recorded-audio/ (https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/18/steven-adler-thinks-guns-n-roses-newly-released-version-of-shadow-of-your-love-is-re-recorded-audio/) Uh, Fernando already confirmed that nothing was re-recorded. Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: ITARocker on June 29, 2018, 03:13:33 AM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all.
Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: pilferk on June 29, 2018, 09:07:19 AM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all. I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven). Sounds like the same technique and timing to me. I think Steven's mistaken. Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: allwaystired on June 29, 2018, 10:15:03 AM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all. I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven). Sounds like the same technique and timing to me. I think Steven's mistaken. So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City? Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: jarmo on June 29, 2018, 10:48:50 AM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all. I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven). Sounds like the same technique and timing to me. I think Steven's mistaken. So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City? The single is the one recorded with Mike Clink. /jarmo Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: pilferk on June 29, 2018, 12:04:09 PM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all. I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven). Sounds like the same technique and timing to me. I think Steven's mistaken. So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City? And I want to clarify why 'live' is in quotes here. I don't think its really a live recording. I think it's a studio recording with overdubbed crowd noise added in. I might be wrong....I'll leave it to the experts/jarmo to comment one way or the other. But I'd love to know the genesis of where it was recorded, if it's really live! Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: pilferk on June 29, 2018, 12:09:04 PM I think Stevens problem in all this is that....honestly...he's never heard the audio sound so good from those sessions.
To me, listening to the 3 versions...the technique, cadence, beat....it's all the same "fingerprint". But the drums on the single version SOUND 100x better...they're just cleaner and more distinct. I think that's what's throwing him off, honestly. "I never recorded that track" is, I think, coming from "I never heard my track sound that good before". Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: allwaystired on June 29, 2018, 01:10:43 PM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all. I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven). Sounds like the same technique and timing to me. I think Steven's mistaken. So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City? The single is the one recorded with Mike Clink. /jarmo Great - thanks! Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: allwaystired on June 29, 2018, 01:12:08 PM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all. I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven). Sounds like the same technique and timing to me. I think Steven's mistaken. So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City? And I want to clarify why 'live' is in quotes here. I don't think its really a live recording. I think it's a studio recording with overdubbed crowd noise added in. I might be wrong....I'll leave it to the experts/jarmo to comment one way or the other. But I'd love to know the genesis of where it was recorded, if it's really live! I assumed (given it's placing on the disc) that it's as 'live' as the tracks on Lies/Live Like A Suicide are. Maybe part of the same session, given the same 'live crowd sounds' treatment, and left off? Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: allwaystired on June 29, 2018, 01:13:15 PM I think Stevens problem in all this is that....honestly...he's never heard the audio sound so good from those sessions. To me, listening to the 3 versions...the technique, cadence, beat....it's all the same "fingerprint". But the drums on the single version SOUND 100x better...they're just cleaner and more distinct. I think that's what's throwing him off, honestly. "I never recorded that track" is, I think, coming from "I never heard my track sound that good before". Drugs may have something to do with what has thrown him off too of course.... Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: Steve McKagan on June 29, 2018, 04:14:34 PM Obviously nothing it's re-recorded: not needed, non sense. Adler doesn't sound "Adler" because the song doesn't suit his style, but if u listen to reckless life u hear exactly the same drum and the same style (and drum fills too). No Frank Ferrer at all. I just listened to the other 2 versions of SOYL ("Live"...which is certainly Steven...and the 86 Sound City version that was included as a B side for LALD...also pretty assuredly Steven). Sounds like the same technique and timing to me. I think Steven's mistaken. So we've got SOYL 'live', the 86 sound city version- and this 'debated' one. Where is that one coming from? What are it's origins? A tidied up 86 Sound City? And I want to clarify why 'live' is in quotes here. I don't think its really a live recording. I think it's a studio recording with overdubbed crowd noise added in. I might be wrong....I'll leave it to the experts/jarmo to comment one way or the other. But I'd love to know the genesis of where it was recorded, if it's really live! I assumed (given it's placing on the disc) that it's as 'live' as the tracks on Lies/Live Like A Suicide are. Maybe part of the same session, given the same 'live crowd sounds' treatment, and left off? Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: reayj2003 on July 02, 2018, 01:26:48 PM This sounds way different to any of the other demos on the disc. Also has the lead guitar riff ever been on any other versions?
I’m thinking Steven is correct. Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: Bridge on July 02, 2018, 06:33:16 PM I think Stevens problem is that.... "I never recorded that track" is, I think, coming from "I never heard my track sound that good before". This sounds way different to any of the other demos on the disc. Also has the lead guitar riff ever been on any other versions? The guitar is also what threw me off at first too. Although I think Pilferk has a point about the remastered version sounding unrecognizable which could be the issue, because it was an issue to me as well. So I don't know what to think. I definitely miss Axl's "Wake Up! It's Time to Play!" intro that was on the original demo! :yes: Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: imsorry on July 03, 2018, 02:07:12 PM u can hear the guitar riff on 1987 06 22 marquee
Title: Re: Shadow of your love video - tour edition Post by: zombux on July 03, 2018, 02:22:31 PM you guys should also throw in the mix one particular version: the one from Roots of GN'R by Hollywood Rose, more specifically Gilby Clarke's remix, which has additional guitar by Tracii Guns (not original, it was added later, supposedly when they were preparing the album before its 2004 release). the confusion is now complete ;)
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