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Slash is releasing a new album and touring this fall.

http://www.slashonline.com/slash-ft-myles-kennedy-the-conspirators-play-kaaboo-del-mar/

No new Guns record eh???

Depends on the situation they are in, we can only speculate.

We know Axl said he had shown stuff to Duff and Slash, that might indicate some reworking of already existing songs. If that's the case, I think Slash is capable of recording both GNR and SMKC songs.

If GNR plans on doing something totally from scratch, it definitely seems to be a more time-consuming project. Maybe something he wants to push back until he is totally free. Unfortunately (for us), that could mean there'll be some time until we see anything from GNR.

For all of those holding out hope for new GnR music (myself included) I think it's time to make peace that it ain't happening.

I think seeing Slash and Angus write and record an album in a year might make him realize how much he's overthinking things. Might also inspire him.

OOF.  :(

Maybe we'll get an Axl guest spot.

Not sure about the scope they're aiming for with this new album and potential tour. We know Alter Bridge has a plan for a new album in 2019, so maybe that's the year Slash and Axl will concentrate on GNR.

And Slash on the Axl/DC album? Either one would be a dream come true for me.

I think this is positive. It wouldn?t make sense for GN?R to release an album off the back of such a big tour it works the other way around.

If Axl is doing AC/DC I think we?ve got a couple of years to wait.

But I love AC/DC with Axl.

I too loved AC/DC with Axl...was psyched that I got a chance to see them live.  I just don't see how Slash's new album, plus Axl's rumored involvement with Angus, in any way helps new GnR music.  All it does is create another reason why there won't be any.  Also, doesn't this sort of make the whole "GnR's not releasing an album because no one releases albums anymore" excuse total horseshit?  I never bought that excuse to begin with.

Wasn't that a Chris Pitman quote from some point?  I don't think that was ever Slash's attitude towards releasing albums.

Pitman's words that's true.


I can see why one would be "frustrated" since there has been so long since their last release, though I choose to be optimistic at this point. I think Axl & co is interested in doing another tour close to the level of this one, and to do that I think they need something that puts them on the radar of even more people. That makes me think new music in some form will see the light of day.

Surely it will be years away now though, if it happens?

I don't know- I've actually never felt so sad about the future of the band as I have after finding out Slash is going back to SMKC. I'm struggling to be optimistic - and I've always been optimistic about the future of GNR.

It just feels like priorities lie elsewhere. The clock is ticking, for everyone.

Slash is focusing on SMKC this fall, but I don't see a very long timeline for them this time around, maybe just downtime while Axl records with AC/DC.

Remember, Alter Bridge has planned a new album in 2019. They will probably embark on a bigger tour than what SMKC have planned this year.

Possibly. This has been flagged up though - which seems to suggest 2018/19/20 will be taken up. I don't know- I just feel really deflated by it all, in terms of loss of momentum. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgoYoAzg2EV/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_profile_upsell_test

Who's the poster?

Todd Kerns wife - the bassist in SMKC.

Could be reading too much into it - but it seems pretty specific to state those dates.

I like the conspirators ....so sounds good to me...

I haven?t had any expectation for a GNR record in a really long time... so this changes nothing...

Hopefully Axl and slash tour together again in 2019... I?ll be happy with that..

The only thing that will annoy me is if AC/DC releases an album with Axl ...which sounds likely,  that would be a kick in the gut considering how long we waited for Chinese and now whatever comes next .. if anything .. and I?m sure I?ll like whatever they do ... but still..

I choose to stay positive one last round here and agree that if we are ever going to see new GNR material, it will conincide with the next tour.  Considering they are wrapping up NITL this summer, one would not expect a new record until at least Nov 2019 with a tour 2020.  I would take AC/DC for now, while I'd expect them to be on break anyway. 

I will throw up my hands in defeat if they tour again, whenever that is, without a new record.  Then I think the only shot we got unfortunately would be posthumous. 

Unless it's written and recorded now that's juat not going to happen. Slash will be busyin 2019 for sure, and lribably 2020 too if that post is to be believed.

This is great news. I am happy.

Not much has changed.
After the Illusions tour Slash made the Snakepit album. Now its pretty much the same.

I dont see how so many of you are so surprised. We were close to having new GNR music in 2014 before Slash rejoined. Now its more complicated, releasing songs written by Paul Tobias and Robin Finck wont make much sense today. No matter how much i would love to hear those songs in their Chinese era form.

Are they interested in writing a new album starting from scratch, i really dont know. Trying to do that in the mid 90s didnt seem to work so well.

Im extremely happy to hear that theres gonna be new AC/DC with Axl. Apart from that i hope to hear the leftovers of Chinese someday soon.

Theres still one leg left of this tour, lets try to enjoy it as much as we can.

Who knows whats gonna happen in the next chapter of the wonderful and surprising world of GNR.

PAul tobias was not in GNR in 2008 when Chidem was released. Neither was buckethead.

It is weirdly specific, but 3 years would be a pretty long tour for such a relatively small band, especially when the two main members have other commitments. And keep in mind, every other SMKC tour was only one year long. If Alter Bridge wants to do an album in 2019, I would expect a short tour from late '18 to early or mid '19 and that's it. And maybe Axl/DC's album/tour follows the same timeline as SMKC? So optimistically, they could be back to Guns by mid 2019.

I am pretty sure that SMKC tours were more than 12 months. I think more like 18 months or more.

So, if they start that in the Autumn/Winter of 2018, that would wrap up sometime in the first half of 2020. That doesn't fill me with hope.

You guys seriously expecting new Guns N' Roses music really redefine the term "glutton for punishment".

Our best bet is to hope for another tour in 5 years.  Focus on that.

Ah...a live album...a few outtakes/demos, that sort of thing...come on, got to hope!

Maybe when/if things quiet down on the reunion front we can start talking about the post-ChiDem albums again. :P

If/when? It'll be pretty quiet when Slash tours with SMKC.....

Well, I'm thinking quiet like they leave things ambiguous during the down time and we don't know who's in the band. If they announce that the Slash/Duff lineup will be back in some capacity, there's probably not as much fuel for CD session speculation.

Pure speculation on my part, but I would have thought that during their 2 years+ touring the topic of "shall we do another album together" had to have been raised. It would be pretty strange if they never even tried to have that conversation. If that hypothesis is accurate, it suggests that there was not much interest, whether due to Axl's desire to work with Angus or Slash's interest in working with Myles and the Conspirators.

Further, given the fact that Slash is so prolific, I would have thought that had there been interest in another GNR album with the Big Three, Slash could have/would have come up with at least a few songs toward the new album. He says he is always working on new songs and even uses time on the road to compose.

I can only conclude that there is little interest and little prospect for new music from GNR anytime soon. I would not rule out a new live album, however.

They have been 15 months, 8 months and 16 months, respectively. So it could easily be less than a year.

They have only released two albums so I bet the 8 month tour is the second part of the first tour after a break, which would make it 23 months. Just like NITL has taken breaks but is still considered one tour.

The second tour of 16 months was cut short by GNR's schedule and Slash rejoining the band. I say this because I saw him in October 2015 in Denver and he said something about being back early next year (2016) with Kennedy and the Conspirators, but instead the GNR tour began

I saw Slash during his last two tours, and his setlists easily were 50% old Guns tunes.  Point being, who in their right minds are going to shell out money to see him do that with Myles, a poor man's Axl, after seeing the real deal killing it for two and a half years? I don't get that thinking and don't see this tour being much of a trek.

No, the first tour was for his solo album. It was the same band.  ::)

@sofine11 I would.
To see Slash live would be a dream come true, and I've only seen him once with GN'R, this past tour.
Now I don't know about you, but when a favorite musician of mine is touring, I'd go; if I can do that more than once then I would fucking do it.
Myles is not a poor man's Axl, he's Myles - and the rest of the band are not GN'R either - and that's the beauty of it.

That's sort of proved his point though - "Myles is not a poor man's Axl, he's Myles - and the rest of the band are not GN'R either" - so why would people want to see them play 50 per cent GNR songs?

The interest in seeing them play GNR songs is seriously limited, now people can actually see him play those songs with GNR. In my view they'd be best off sticking to their own material now.

I would like to see the source of the information that SMKC first album tour was only 8 months long. It is hard to believe. I don't remember exactly but it seems that I saw him twice on that tour and the times were more than 8 months apart.

That was kind of a dick move, what you did there, quoting the whole sentence except for the last words, which were "AND THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT".
Then again it made me realize why people wouldn't want to spend their money on such a show.
Not me, I'd still go, even if it was Slash playing turkish folk songs on a broken Stratocaster. But that's just the kind of fan I am. :)

Why? Doesn't change the meaning of what you said at all. I can understand why people would want to hear smkc songs, but hearing them play gnr songs- that's lost it's pull, in the same way that a gnr without slash has loat its pull.

Slash has been playing less Gnr songs every tour.
He will mostly play the stuff with Myles and co on the next tour with some Snakepit & VR.
I doubt he will do more than 4 Gnr songs.
Look at Black Star Riders, they mostly did all Thin Lizzy for years but on the last tour they only did one Lizzy song.

Most of those years they were called 'Thin Lizzy' though to be fair!

Exactly.

Here's the setlist from October 2015, last time I saw them. 7 GNR songs, not 10 like someone else said.

You're a Lie
Nightrain
(Guns N? Roses cover)
Avalon
Standing in the Sun
Back from Cali
Wicked Stone
Too Far Gone
You Could Be Mine
(Guns N? Roses cover)
Doctor Alibi
Welcome to the Jungle
(Guns N? Roses cover) (Todd Kerns on vocals)
Beneath the Savage Sun
Mr. Brownstone
(Guns N? Roses cover)
The Dissident
Rocket Queen
(Guns N? Roses cover)
Bent to Fly
World on Fire
Anastasia
Sweet Child O' Mine
(Guns N? Roses cover)
Slither
Encore:
Paradise City
(Guns N? Roses cover)

It was a kick ass show! Was my birthday and will never forget it. And what I really liked was that people were there to hear Slash songs. What I don't like about GNR crowds is that many people are there just to hear Appetite songs and everyone goes crazy for Sweet Child. I am so tired of Sweet Child. I wish they would delete it from the set list. But for Slash shows, people are not there to hear Sweet Child but rather for Anastasia, Slither, Cali, and all his other great songs.

No I?m talking about Black Star Riders not when they toured as Thin Lizzy.
They are on their third album tour, the same as Slash will be.

Time flies! Doesn't seem that long since i saw them as thin lizzy supporting gnr.

hmmm... my favourite guitar player playing a bunch of solo material, new songs and iconic songs with a stripped down tight band in a more intimate venue at a much cheaper cost.  Sign me up please.

Slash needed money for his divorce, Duff needed a gig, Axl needed some musicians to tour.

now you had it, the "reunion" thing.

they'll do some other shows and move to their respectives business, Slash with his band,
Duff will probably write another book about being a man, a dad, a grandfather and play with whatever,
and Axl has an exit strategy (difficult to do another Guns LP without Slash & Duff now) with AC/DC.

Axl should release the rest of Chinese as a solo album when Slash releases his.  : ok:

Slash and Myles Kennedy playing Aftershock in October

If it?s the only way to hear the material, I agree. There is so much he could do. Not being held up in GNR.

He will never do that. Doesnt need to either, he owns all rights. I just see the Record company being dicks as the main deterrent for Axl not to even want to move !

Record company owns that material

http://www.slashparadise.com/bands/slash-solo.php

"We went out on the road and we wrote the album on the road."  Wait, what?  I thought you can't write an album when you're touring.   :hihi:

Also, it's interesting that his website notes that the NITL tour ends on 7/21/18.

Just to clarify, that's a fan site, but a well-trusted one.

Ah, thanks for pointing that out.  So I guess not officially announced (and probably never will be), but with Slash booking gigs and recording an album with Myles, it may as well be.

I Believe, After Of Guns N' Roses 2018:

AXL Work With AC/DC, New Album + Southamerican Tour 2019

 :smoking:

Yes, well, according to this website, there have been 3 Slash tours.

1. We're all gonna die, 10 April 2010-31 July 2011, or 15 months
2. Apocalyptic Love, 23 March 2012-25 July 2013, or 16 months
3. World on Fire, 9 July 2014-24 November 2015, or 16 months.

The data do not support the claim of an 8 month tour, just as I suspected.

With GNR In Novemebr

 :hihi:

New Slash song people!

https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmSqNamnC6ta339e9wJmY46qtWLYPt6Bp67DBHdFNWPXcZ&channel=20592

thanks  :D :beer:

Sounds fuckin great to me. it seems to me like a cross between Wicked stone and withered delilah, with the addition of the Standing in the sun little homage
love the riff and the chorus of this song
Slash has just said there will be a lot of diversity. Can't wait to listen to the whole album |m|

Not used to Slash stuff in this section still haha
Driving Rain towards the end sounds exactly like Halo
Interesting

Good Music For This Time !!!

 :smoking:

There is potential in the cascade of riffs coming at you. But in my taste the song lacks overall direction. It's more of a jam,  New York Tune is more together than this. I don't get a sense of connection between the music and the vocal performance. Typical Slash solo roaming free,  not working on the song writing enough.

I hope there's more "diversity" in forthcoming songs, because "Driving Rain" was about as generic as I've heard from Slash.

Song sounds promising until Myles comes and you realise that he always sounds the exact same on these Slash albums.
It may as well be a b-side from one of the last two albums.
The solo suffers from the modern Slash guitar solo syndrome where he plays too many notes rather than make each note count.
But it is a solid song really just not taking the band in a new direction even remotely

SiriusXM Volume have been building up Eddie Trunks new monthly show "Trunk Nation LA invasion" all week stating they will be having a mega guest. Just as I suspected it was Slash. It was recorded and broadcasted live last night from the Rainbow and will be aired again this weekend.

Slash made an announcement for a special SiriusXM subscriber show and such. I'll give it a listen later provided I can tolerate Eddie Trunk.

If anyone wants tickets for London download the eventim ap and there is a pre-sale.

See anyone that's going in glamarous Doncaster!

Not seen a Slash show before but the fact there won't be any/many GNR songs swung it for me.

Yeah, only Rocket Queen at the first show. And I was surprised by that, even. You'd think he's sick of it by now, and would rather play a GNR track they didn't do on NITL.

It does seem a surprising choice- I was wondering if the extended way it's done might ve a chance for Myles tonrest his voice, as it's mid-set?

It would be cool to see them extend a song that isn't normally extended, like Wicked Stone, maybe improvise over that funky tom beat in the verses.

Last time I saw them was 10/15 in Denver and we got a 25 minute RQ with lots of jam and solo. I bet it will similar this tour. I am going to Oklahoma to see them next week, 22 September. Can’t fucking wait.

I think they do it with Anastasia.

generic is the word, for the 3 first singles. not a good sign.

Lost inside the girl and Serve you right are fuckin SICK!!!

The one you loved is gone is such a beautiful song

My antidote, Boulevard of broken hearts, Call of the wild, Sugar Cane...
What a great Album. Love all the songs. Another badass album by Mr. Slash |m|

Enjoy guys

Eh, I only listened once but most of it was pretty uninspired, as I feared. His downhill slide has me worried about the quality of any new GNR material.

his guitar work is still very good, but the songwriting...I suppose
Myles Kennedy has a large part of responsibility in that department.

I'm not worry about new GNR material, that's not the same league.