Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Yesterday(s), there were no live streams and someone said it was due to the bad connection at the stadium.

Is the connection so bad in the country that we don't even have a topic for the show :beer:

Post here, whatever you know, see or hear.

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 *in my best Wendy Williams voice*  What the Elton John??!!??  :confused:

Let us pray...
Dear God, Please let "this" be just a show of support n' solidarity with the peoples of the UK.  And please, Lord, let this outfit be auctioned off after tonight's show and the proceeds go to the charities for the victims of the recent terror attacks and fire tragedy ... so that never again will anyone have to be subjected to them (the attacks/tragedies/this outfit).  Amen.

He looked fucking cool last night wearing that!

This.... enough said. : ok:

I've been told there is blocking technology at the site(premier league football maybe??), all I know for certain is that I couldn't send any text and pics to missus, then al of a sudden she got a ton after leaving the area.  ???

I have no doubt it looked awesome in person and was worn with the utmost respect and support for the peoples of the UK.  :)

Interesting thought and, of course, technologically as easy as playing [NAME YOUR SONG HERE] but not sure if that would be legal in the EU.

Obviously, there is no obligation to provide Wi-Fi but to block normal mobile connections just does not sound possible. The stadium structure could make it so that there is a lot of bad coverage.

(Which could be of course intentional but that needs a lot of tinfoil in your hat.)

That could be it. Pissed me off no end though...

They're already up to Mr. Brownstone

https://www.facebook.com/merlin.gard/videos/10155378710014757/

But it doesn't work. I see it for a few seconds and then broadcast interrupted. Interesting.

It seems most people there only stream for a song or two.  I'm having a difficult time trying to figure out on the FB livemap exactly where the stadium is and those stupid little blue dots keep changing so quickly that I can't tell if it's someone streaming from the stadium or just some random person posting personal videos from home.

Or maybe they are trying to stream but cannot. That could come up with quick dots only for them to disappear. There must be a reason that we get live streams from all over the world but not London.

https://www.facebook.com/lynn.williams.121398/videos/10155523896095962/

Estranged

They're up to KOHD

https://www.facebook.com/emily.randisi.5/videos/10211102451056145/

Why has Black Hole Sun been moved again. Just drop it already because nobody wants it anyway anymore ???

Last night everyone loved it. Just because you're bored of it on an internet forum, why do you want to deprive all the audiences of hearing something they're really enjoying? Last night people around me saw it at once of the highlights of the night.

No, I believe they just moved it to the Encore set.

On Tuesday, somewhere in Gdansk! :hihi:

Is this the same venue in London as yesterday?

Yes.

Setlist (so far) from Jarmo:

SET: It?s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Double Talkin? Jive, Better, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Rocket Queen, You Could Be Mine, You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/New Rose, This I Love, Civil War, Happy Birthday (to the Queen), Yesterdays, Coma, Band Intros, Slash Solo (Godfather)/Sweet Child O' Mine, Out Ta Get Me, Wish You Were Here/Layla/November Rain, Black Hole Sun, Only Women Bleed (instrumental)/Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain



guess the show is over

Guns N' Roses‏@gunsnroses
Two nights were better than one...
Thank you London! 🇬🇧
#GNRinLondon

I would like to see some pictures of todays show.  Yesterdays didn't look very full at all.

Encore:

Don't Cry
Rosie
Paradise City

Sorry.  I just copy n' pasted Jarmo's setlist and didn't bother to actually read it. 
BHS was played between NR and KOHD.

It was completely sold out. It looked like there was space as the standing tickets were the same as lower tier seating- so you could move back and forth from the floor to seating- and nobody really wanted a atmosphere was electric, with 80.000+ fans singing and buzzing for almost three hours.

Of course it was but were people actually there. Yesterday many were arriving long after the show had started and not in a hurry to attend.

Plus there is a MAJOR problem with touting in the UK, and tickets going unused.

Google 'Rhianna Wembley Sold Out' as an example......

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rihannas-half-empty-sold-out-8335400

Huh... Wow... I am aware of a some sort of a situation but it really is that bad.

Yeah, it's bad! I've had lots of personal experiences of it- including being given tickets by a touting ticket agency desperately trying to fill a venue to a show that I'd tried to get tickets to but couldn't because it was sold out!

There's basically no regulation and all the official ticket selling sites have their own "secondary marketplace" (i.e. touting site) that they siphon off all the best tickets to, to sell at inflated prices. It's why at UK gigs the best seats are often empty, while the worse ones are all sold. Many of these agencies just end up throwing away the tickets they can't sell at the inflated prices (or, sometimes give them away, if they can be bothered.) What a business hey?!

Del posted these pics from today's show:

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How do they personally stay in business then?  Seems someone must be buying these tickets

Hope I am not the only one

But a nice sunny day. Blue sky's

And this band playing?
It doesn't seem right!?!?
Or look right

Don't understand what you're saying,they don't go home humming the video,Punk.

Guns N Roses - Don't Cry - London Stadium 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZkiPgC-Qhg

Nice to see Rosie in the setlist.

Madonna is coming to your city and the tickets go in 3mins. It is nearly a year before the date but you are panicking and go online and can luckily secure a ticket for your wife and her friend. Only $1300 each but who cares, what would I not do for her.

Thousands of people do the same and the touts are laughing. The profit has already been made.

Or if it was possible for the wife to wait until few days before the gig you could find tickets for $25 each because they were not sold for a ridiculous price. Or as it seems to be in some cases, the tickets are simply thrown away and nobody gets in.

Yeah but the guy and his wife would then make the show

What was described to me here was....

This third party ticket place....    purchases tickets quick

Then marks them up to such a premium that knobody buys them...

That the reason I was give these places look empty.  3rd party vendors buys these tickets  can't sell them then they go unfilled   Someone even said they give these tickets away for free

So I am asking

How do these third party ticket people stay in buisness?   Sure seems like a total loss

Or just an excuse

They stay in business because even them can still sell a few tickets. Or maybe some of them go out of business.

Tallinn, Estonia had a huge Metallica gig (around 80,000) about 8 years ago. I was there and talked to a guy who had literally about 200 printed tickets in his hand. He explained that there was a mix-up with some travel agency and something.

Of course there was not any mix-up but he had just screwed up his business :hihi:

This is an off topic discussion. Seems like you just like to focus on a few empty seats in a pretty full stadium.


For the record, there can be many reasons for you seeing empty seats in photos. For example, the sections weren't on sale because they are in a spot with reduced visibility. Or you're seeing the emergency exit....



/jarmo

There a big section on the Mellissa side of the stage that is the sports media section that was blocked of too.

It was packed. The floor was completely full which is why some of the lower tier seats were empty.
Did take a bit of time to fill up once they went on which I presume was because of the wristband issues.
The signal was dead for me, I couldn't even text a mate up the front until we got out if there.

Oh and it was the best GnR concert I've seen since 1992 and think I prefer his voice nowadays as it doesn't sound so broken and screwed. Think My Michelle was the only song that wasn't great apart from the CD songs which people just didn't get into.

Not my photo as I was on the floor

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCg63PqW0AAldYU?format=jpg&name=large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCg63PqW0AAldYU?format=jpg&name=large)

Couldn't find a way to just attach a photo.

Yesterday I was, but not I have been following since it sucked me a new book about Axl, that to death I forgot about the concert  ;D On Tuesday I will be in Gdansk, so I'll try to keep something to throw. 8)

There you go... Fucking impressive, would love to some videos from this angle too.

Now that's impressive!!!

Seems the 80,000 is legit according to this http://www.london-stadium.com/stadium/about And looking in the news part of that site there was a 22:30 curfew

Amazing second show (and first too) - crowd were really good imo - so loud and bouncing around.  Deafened during live and let die last night!!  I think saturday the stadium filled up quicker or rather earlier, than friday - but both nights, from where i was and turning around every now and then - it was packed.  It is cool that the lower tier seats allow you to go on the pitch - so you will see some spaces here and there as people moved around. 

That pic ^ is so cool!!  You dont have much persepctive when in the pit - I love seeing the full crowd shots afterwards. 

Had an absolute BLAST - what a weekend! !!!

Also very cool when Axl mentioned both nights when they played KOHD that they very first played that song in London.

I remember back in 1992 at Wembley and the back quarter of the pitch was quite empty and there was a large beer tent along the back but plenty of open space.
This week the pitch was pretty much packed from front to back.

After 14 months of reading reviews and anticipation I'm glad I can finally write my own review of a NITL show  8)

It was my first time attending a show in the UK and we planned a nice weekend with friends around the show. Arriving by plane from Amsterdam on friday it already seemed the GN'R fans took over London; every subway we passed at least a few walking GN'R shirts could be seen....very nice :)

We planned to see some London city downtown highlights in the early Saturday morning, unfortunately too early because the Popup store at the Jon Varvatos wasn't open yet. The rest of the day we enjoyed the Queen's birthday celebrations in the park before heading eastwards to Stratford station. We arrived at the stadium park about 5 o'clock and the crowd at the merchandise stand was massive. I really wanted a London specific event tee and got the skull-guard one. After some beers in the late afternoon sun we headed towards the field at 6 when the first opener already had begun.

After we got some more beers we got a nice spot halfway the field and enjoyed the atmosphere with some nice music of The Kills in the background (definitely going to check them out at Rock Werchter in 2 weeks). They finished their set about 7.15 so I was very suprised to see the intro music starting at 7.40....still a bit used to the times of 2006 :)

The magic of hearing the screaming opening voice of the announcer '...from Hollywood, Guns N' Roses!!!!!' gave me (and again writing this) goosebumps. After more than 25 years waiting for this moment it watered my eyes to see Axl, Slash & Duff on one stage.

Although I prefer the notes of WTTJ as opener of the show the rawness of It?s So Easy isn?t that bad either. I immediately noticed how tight the band sounded. Having heard an enormous amount of bootlegs from all era?s I was really impressed by Slash?s skills on these GN?R tunes.

The vibe in the stadium was awesome and everyone was really stoked to see the band and when Slash started the opening riff of WTTJ the stadium really exploded, so cool! Although I don?t mind a few suprises I was already pretty glad they played the usual songs and didn?t scrap Coma and Black Hole Sun.

Personal highlights were Estranged, Civil War, Yesterdays, Coma, Nightrain and Whole Lotta Rosie. Also cool they played New Rose instead of Attitude. I love the album Chinese Democracy  and it?s good to see Slash?s take on these songs, CD and Better sound great but I prefer the version of This I Love played by the previous line up (2010 was absolutely fabulous).

Some notes:
- Axl got a big applause when he dedicated KOHD to the victims of recent attacks and the fire.
- The beer-supply on the field wasn?t very well organised; just a few points at the back which were out of beer halfway the concert
- Bad toilet situation, had to walk outside the venue during the Godfather?s Theme?could just make the end of Coma :)
- Great venue and very nice park and atmosphere around the stadium
- Very long walk (a few miles extra) back to the station after the concert
- I love London city, great people and great city. I will come back for more concerts :)
- and concluding: Fuck the setlist haters and Youtube watchers  :rant: ;)

Can?t wait to see them in 3,5 weeks in Nijmegen, Holland!  :peace:

This was a great show. The band were tight as hell and looked to be happy. Axl sounded good and Slash nailed everything. It was great to finally see Axl, Slash and Duff on the same stage together again, in person.

Everybody in the crowd seemed to be enjoying themselves and the atmosphere was good. The place was packed with the crowd on the floor stretching almost the entire length of the stadium, and there were GnR fans everywhere in London for the entire weekend.

Highlights: Coma, Rosie, Estranged, KOHD

To those who attended: glad you had a great time, I am looking forward to having the experience of my life in 3 days in Hanover ;)

To those who keep complaining about the setlist, covers and other stuff: take JMB-GNR's comment :D

Great review. Enjoyed reading it.

Very high quality videos available. Just weird that this was absolutely the worst nightmare trying to watch live and then this. Maybe better late than never ::)

They may well have signal jamming technology there.

I think the mobile broadband net kneeled during the show with so many people using it. The credit card machines at the merch stands stopped working, they couldn't connect anymore.

That is the most probable explanation but it should not happen anymore. In the late 90's it was impossible to make a phone call as it was always 'network busy'. Then it got better for a long time but now the problems are back with the explosion of live streaming.

I don't believe that signal jamming is legal and if so a big stadium would never risk doing it.

I also enjoyed writing it, so many good memories of last weekend!

:peace:





I don't think there was a jamming situation just too many people for the same broadband. Most of the time I had no signal at all but I managed to sent 1 photo before the show via Whatsapp; all other messages arrived well after the show. So I can imagine streaming anything would have been impossible for more than a few minutes in this packed stadium.

I know from previous concerts the park in Nijmegen for July 12th hardly has any signal at all during events so don't expect any livestreams that evening either  ;)

I think the empty seats can be explained by a combination of things:

1) The 2nd night didn't go on sale until the 1st night had almost completely sold out (so about 30 minutes after tickets went on sale) so sales were slower and I don't think it sold out completely.

2) There was a block of seats either side of the stage which weren't covered over but also weren't being used. There were security standing at the entrance to stop anyone going in there (and later they were sitting in the seats near the entrance because why would you stand for 3 hours next to a bunch of empty seats).

3) As previously mentioned the lower tier was General Admission and you could come and go from there to the floor and it looks like most people chose to stand. My in-laws had our spare GA tickets and chose to sit down and from what my mother-in-law told me (she talks to everyone) everyone around them was unwilling or unable to stand the whole show, or had kids with them. (It's really cool how many people brought kids, and how many of them were really into it.)

4) I think some people are still being caught out by the band coming on stage on time. Even right down the front people were thinking there would be more than enough time to go get drinks after The Kills finished their set (we tried to tell them they were wrong, they decided to take their chances). Then when they came on there was a sudden rush of people coming back from the bar. One guy near us missed the first 2 songs, all for a couple of cokes.

It is kind of funny to realise the last time I saw the CD line-up in London the show didn't even start until 10:40pm and this one finished just after 10:30. But in the same way I always thought everyone knew if you go and see GnR it will start late I assumed everyone had heard that wasn't happening on this tour. I tend to forget people on the internet are just a sub-set of GnR fans.

Anyway, the important thing is the show was amazing. Both nights but I actually think night 2 was better, and they played both Yesterdays and Don't Cry which was a nice surprise.