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Roberto Medina, Rock in Rio organizer just posted an official statement on the festival social medias inviting GNR to play at the next festival edition in Rio September 2017!!! Hashtag #gunsinrockinrio2017 was created and is already trending in Brazil!
For those who doesn know, Medina claimed that GNR would not be invited anymore after the band got to the stage hours late in 2011 edition. Roberto said in the post that his private issues with Axl are behind and he is willing to give a headline spot to GNR! Aerosmith, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Maroon 5 are already confirmed for 2017 edition!

....I bet he is now he sees the money signs flashing before his eyes after the Brazil dates!!!

Yep...tour was very sucessfull here,  i havent seen any bad reviews from the media. But the drive for this post was a campaign started by GNR fan community in Brazil...they flood the festival media with posts requesting the band. In 2011 GNR was confirmed months before the festival after a massive number of requests by GNR fans...of course money counts but there are a hanfull of artists who could sell tickets....its the GNR fans initiative that helps I guess!!

Wonder if they could still a load of tickets though after the tour? Most people that are casually interested will have seen them now, and the prices aren't cheap enough to make people who are casual fans go again. Don't Rock In Rio really need exclusive acts that haven't toured Brazil recently?

If it happened i'm sure it would be only this show in Rio, no other cities. Given that, I think it would sell easy...people from all over Brazil and neighbour contries would like to see them again. Also, the support acts would attract other fans as well...Rock in rio ALWAYS sells out despite the headliners....people come from all over the country for the festival.

120k pre sale tickets were sold out in two hours with 3 bands confirmed only!

I can't roll my eyes hard enough at this guy.  But I'm trying...

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I love these Rock N Rio events.  I hope there is some great live internet streaming of the event.

Not those cheap amateur cheapo scopes that are always talked about on here.

But a nice live professional presentation.  If the price was right I may even consider paying to watch it live online

THIS IS FAKE!!!

Fernando replied to this on the Rock in Rio facebook page.

Not fake Gypsy....in the post Roberto says that he WILL make an offer....Fernando just confirmed that the official offer has not been made. But the post is NOT FAKE...its p?ster in all Rock in Rio official social media. Ill translate the post when I get home.

Remember the last Rock In Rio? Axl sloshing about in the rain, the crowd thinning out throughout the set...not good! As you say, exciting to see a good quality recorded performance, but....that's the closest I've ever come to thinking 'the game's up'!

FAKE as in no such offer was made to the band.
Fernando posted his reply on that Rock in Rio official facebook page that you quoted.

Where does it say the band was made an offer?

Seems to me that the promoter just posted one public invite.   What is so fake about that

IMO by posting a reply to this on that page, Fernando seems to think that it was important enough to make sure that the fans are aware of the FACT that NO SUCH INVITATION was made to the band.

Maybe the past issues between this Roberto and GNR/Axl aren't as 'past' as Roberto seems to think?

It's misleading and wrong to the band and fans to post a concert pic of Axl/Slash/Duff promoting an appearance that the band has not been offered or committed to. 

I can see it now, if this "public invitation" and a commitment doesn't come to fruition, the headlines are going to read:  GNR cancels out of Rock in Rio.

IMO, that makes this type of promotion FAKE.
 

OMG Gypsy you are getting this all wrong. ...the festival has not announced Guns N Roses...its just an OPEN LETTER with an INFORMAL invitation...responding to the MASSIVE quantity of requests the Festival Page got after the recent shows in Brazil....they RETWEETED a Fan made art, its not official! In the post itself Roberto states that he WILL make an offer soon.

Who said it was already made? Even Fernando says "yet to receive".


The pic was created and posted by a fanpage.


Medina himself says he doesn't know if the band will be interested in coming back again. You're assuming a lot of things, like Axl not being the author of his tweets.

Okay.

Heres the post in english:

Dear Rock in Rio Friends

This is Roberto Medina, Rock in Rio creator. This is actually the first time that I make a post through a social network.
I want to communicate using my "fan" side.  As you are aware, Guns n Roses is one of the bands that played the most in Rock in Rio and thei recent performance in Rio de Janeiro with the original line up (yeah, he forgot to mention that its a partial reunion) was simply incredible. My issues with Axl are in the past. I WILL TALK TO THEM about this idea, but since they just played in Rio i dont know if they would want to return next year. But, I pass the ball to them...lets invite them?? #Gunsrosesrockinrio2017

Thank you for posting the English translation.
 
My opinion has not changed after reading that mostly because of how Fernando worded his reply to that starting with "That's quite funny." 

I would think that, unlike me, Fernando didn't need that to be translated.

I get your point....even if it is a fan made art he used a GNR image in the festival page....that could be considered a promotion on the bands's back by Axl and GNR management. In my opinion Roberto made a mistake by using a GNR image on the festival page without the band's consent, even though is a fan made art.

I think Roberto's mistake was not reaching out to GNR Management before posting something like that because he has no idea what commitments the band, or individual members of the band, might have already in negotiations or confirmed for that timeframe. 

IMO, it just put everyone concerned in an awkward situation and possibly sets up the GNR at Rock in Rio fans for a major disappointment.

You are correct, it creates expectations and might put GNR in a "bad" position with the Rio fans as they would have to justify an eventual invitation denial.
I BELIEVE that European tour might end around July/August...but we don know if by September they intend to get to studio or even move on with side projects...we are just wondering. Lets see what unfolds!

When Roberto said "I pass the ball to them" he is placing all the potential blame for it not happening on GNR, and Axl in particular.

From a management/business standpoint, Fernando did right by GNR/Axl by calling Roberto out on this.  By his reply, Fernando let it be known to everyone seeing that that there is a lot of business that needs to be negotiated before this appearance can possibly happen.  And Fernando did leave that door wide open.


P.S.  I'm starting a thread quoting you as the source:  BAZFREAK: "BY SEPTEMBER THEY INTEND TO GET TO STUDIO"!!!!  ;D

Funny. Making it seem like it's now up to GN'R when no offer has been made....



/jarmo

So a promoter of a major of one of the worlds largest concerts is publicly promoting the band for this show

If anything else this is cool

It could fall apart for many many reasons

Hell this band was booked for this exact same show years ago and backed out blaming bucket heads departure as the reason

So anything can happen

Regardless the demand for this band in South America is at all time highs

I am sure if the price is right anyone's schedule can be worked around

People need to relax when comments are made publicly from on band members about the band.   

So basically you think it's cool for festival promoters to put all the responsibility of GN'R appearing at their festivals on GN'R... Ok...

I don't agree.



/jarmo

I`m a reliable source Gypsy!! They will get to studio,  print this!!  :hihi:


Maybe they already asked the band availability but an offer is yet to be made....i dont know, Roberto organizes Rock in Rio for more than 30 years, he wouldnt be so amateur and create this expectation out of nowhere! He knows all the complexity of hiring bands more than anyone here.

Who's responsibility is it, then?  Why wouldn't it be GnR's responsibility to determine if GnR wants to play a festival? 

Maybe he thought going to management first wouldn't be productive (because of his past history with Axl) so he went this route instead.  You can debate whether he did the right thing or not.  He made his bed and now has to lie in it, so I don't feel sorry for him at all if this doesn't happen, although it would be slightly ironic that GnR wouldn't play a show (with this lineup) because of a past grudge with a promoter.

Yeah, it just sets up the fans to be let down, and the organizer to say 'hey, not my fault guys'. Then we get 'oh, GNR refused to play rock in Rio, they're probably bitter about last time' etc.

The standard response from big event organisers about whether so and so is playing is usually 'we're in the process of booking acts now and will let you know as soon as we can' - which does seem more sensible in terms of managing expectations.

We all know Axl fucked and pissed at the rock in Rio festival 2011, he really screwed up, but I think Roberto Medina talked to Axl and apologized for the negative statements, the band gained more notice after it played in the 1991 edition there GNR got bigger than it already was.

Rock In Rio 2017 will be the redemption of Axl.

But I do not agree with Roberto Medina, he is throwing all responsibility for the band.

Axl left Los Angeles in the show day...I mean...totally unprofessional, he arrived moments before the show and performance that was scheduled for 12PM started 03PM...Imagine the issues that the festival had with broadcasting, local regulations, public transportation companies....it was a major let down and a disruption for everyone, thats why Roberto fired his guns against Axl in 2011.

However, times have changed, Axl seems to be much more professional nowadays, delays are in the past. Lets hope they get to terms for a triumphal return to Rock in Rio!

Regarding the recent tour they just finished in Brazil, in my opinion this wouldn't be a problem. GN'R did quite the same thing when they toured SA in 2010 and came back just for RIR 2011.

It would be fucking cool to have Guns N' Roses and Aerosmith (already confimed) on the same night.

From a different angle- GNR don't need Rock In Rio anymore, so is any of this worth the hassle?

Did they ever need?  ???

Yeah, I reckon so. They weren't making anywhere near the money they were live last time, so it represented a big gig, and a big payday. Now they're doing stadiums, with expensive tickets, I guess RIR isn't so necessary.

If I tell you that I'm going to make an offer on your house and that the ball is in your court, it seems like it's totally up to you whether or not you want to sell your house to me. In reality, I didn't even make an offer.... You're basically put into a position where you need to publicly accept, or not, without knowing what kind of offer I might make! After all, the ball is apparently in your court!

Now do you see the issue?


Edited to add: When do the tickets go on sale for next year's festival? Seems like a great way to get GN'R fans to buy tickets with hopes of GN'R playing there...




/jarmo

Is it one of those events where people buy tickets without knowing the lineup? I was under the impression it was a series of independent gigs, and people bought tickets for the day they wanted?

Tickets go on sale before the complete line up is announced.

Then, as far as I know, you select the day you want to attend later....



/jarmo

They sell some tickets in advance. They're called Rock in Rio Cards, and people buy those without knowing which bands will play. Just a few bands have been announced so far. Afterwards you can choose each day you want to attend.

They sold 120 thousand Rock in Rio cards in just two hours. And that was before Medina started this GN'R thing, so I don't think he needs to use the band's name to sell tickets. The festival sells itself.

They also sell regular tickets later, when all the bands have already been announced. Those are much more expensive.

And this type of underhanded way of pressuring the band I can only imagine will have the complete opposite impact then they hoped for.  RIR needs them more than they need RIR these days.

Rock In Rio without GNR is not Rock In Rio, there is something different when GNR played in this festival, the public loves the band, and the band loves Rock In Rio

Tickets start selling in April 2017

But what position is the band really put in?  Has Axl said anything?  Do we expect him to feel pressured to?  I don't think he gives a shit what this guy said.  Do fans really feel like the band will let them down if they don't play RIR?  It's a douche move by this promoter, but has zero impact on the band, IMO.

Axl might not care, but the band is still in a position where (some) fans expect them to appear for sure because of these comments. How can they refuse the invitation?

All I'm saying is that, even though, the person might really want GN'R to appear, it would've been smarter to keep quiet and only make announcements if the band agreed to play the festival....





/jarmo

I don't care at all about Rock in Rio. Only thing that would matter to me is that we would get a proshot, but hopefully by that time they will already planning on release a far better Blu-ray.

Let's just hope they choose the best show, unlike the Illusions DVD.

A compilation of different shows would be great too...like Aerosmith did with Rock for The Rising Sun blu ray. Technically the NA shows were better but SA crowds bring the concert to another level...they could release a kick ass 25 song blu ray with songs from several shows!

I wouldn't mind that, same thing Iron Maiden did. Hell, I wouldn't mind if they patched together the best parts of different performances into one (like AC/DC's Live at Donington).

GNR Brazil facebook page reported that negotiations are almost complete and annoucement will be made probably in the first quarter 2017, right before general ticket sales! Hope its true!!