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Title: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 02, 2016, 01:04:38 PM Just got numbers from uyi tour...NITL tour started much much harder
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: ice cream sand pig on October 02, 2016, 02:23:26 PM Thats awesome. Maybe guns hasnt peaked yet, crazy as that sounds.
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: sky dog on October 02, 2016, 02:26:41 PM it's called inflation and higher ticket prices...pretty simple. :P
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 02, 2016, 03:24:52 PM it's called inflation and higher ticket prices...pretty simple. :P No.I'm talking about attendance not about money...I'll put some billboard boxscore nubers in next post ... Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 02, 2016, 03:29:25 PM Guns N? Roses, Skid Row
East Troy, WI Alpine Valley Music Theatre May 24 & 25, 1991 Capacity: 80,000 Attendance: 75,593 Gross: $2,050,560 Ticket Prices: $40, $37.50, $32.50, $22.50 Joseph Entertainment Group Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Toledo, OH Toledo Speedway June 2, 1991 Capacity: 31,907 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $765,768 Ticket Prices: $25, $22.50 Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Toronto, ON CNE Grandstand June 7 & 8, 1991 Capacity: 41,384 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,082,784 ($1,241,520 Canadian) Ticket Price: $30 Concert Prods. International Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Hershey, PA Hersheypark Stadium June 11, 1991 Capacity: 30,000 Attendance: 27,274 Gross: $628,460 Ticket Prices: $32.50, $22.50 Joseph Entertainment Group Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Philadelphia, PA Spectrum June 14, 1991 Capacity: 18,017 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $450,425 Ticket Prices: $32.50, $22.50 Electric Factory Concerts Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Uniondale, NY Nassau Veterans? Memorial Coliseum June 17, 1991 Capacity: 17,462 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $436,550 Ticket Price: $25 Metropolitan Entertainment Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Landover, MD Capital Centre June 19 & 20, 1991 Capacity: 29,767 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $818,592 Ticket Price: $27.50 Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Hampton, VA Hampton Coliseum June 22, 1991 Capacity: 13,800 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $310,500 Ticket Price: $22.50 Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Charlotte, NC Charlotte Coliseum June 23, 1991 Capacity: 17,949 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $421,802 Ticket Price: $23.50 Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Greensboro, NC Greensboro Coliseum June 25, 1991 Capacity: 9,953 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $233,895 Ticket Price: $23.50 Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Knoxville, TN Thompson-Boling Arena June 26, 1991 Capacity: 13,304 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $280,962 Ticket Price: $21.50 Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Lexington, KY Rupp Arena June 29, 1991 Capacity: 17,030 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $383,175 Ticket Price: $22.75 Cellar Door Prods. / Sunshine Promotions Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Birmingham, AL Raceway June 30, 1991 Capacity: 26,179 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $571,433 Ticket Price: $22.50 New Era Promotions / Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Dallas, TX Starplex Amphitheater July 8 & 9, 1991 Capacity: 40,000 Attendance: 28,639 Gross: $625,410 Ticket Price: $22.50 PACE Concerts / MCA Concerts / in-house Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Tacoma, WA Tacoma Dome July 16 & 17, 1991 Capacity: 25,373 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $571,730 Ticket Price: $22 Bill Graham Presents / Odgen Presents Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Mountain View, CA Shoreline Amphitheater July 19 & 20, 1991 Capacity: 40,000 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $934,310 Ticket Prices: $25, $22.50 Bill Graham Presents Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Costa Mesa, CA Pacific Amphitheater July 25, 1991 Capacity: 19,057 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $422,815 Ticket Prices: $25, $20 Nederlander Organization / Avalon Attractions Guns N? Roses, Skid Row Inglewood, CA Great Western Forum July 29, 30 & Aug. 2 & 3, 1991 Capacity: 64,527 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,613,175 Ticket Price: $25 Parc Presentations / Nederlander Organization / Avalon Attractions Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Worcester, MA Centrum Dec. 5 & 6, 1991 Capacity: 28,035 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $560,700 Ticket Price: $20 Don Law Co. Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden New York City, NY Madison Square Garden Dec. 9, 10 & 13, 1991 Capacity: 54,491 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,339,860 Ticket Prices: $25, $22.50 Metropolitan Entertainment Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Philadelphia, PA Spectrum Dec.16 & 17, 1991 Capacity: 34,439 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $688,780 Ticket Price: $20 Electric Factory Concerts Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden St. Petersburg, FL Suncoast Dome Dec. 28, 1991 Capacity: 32,936 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $543,444 Ticket Price: $16.50 Cellar Door Concerts Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Miami, FL Joe Robbie Stadium Dec. 31, 1991 Capacity: 39,503 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $651,800 Ticket Price: $16.50 Cellar Door Concerts Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Memphis, TN Pyramid Arena Jan. 7, 1992 Capacity: 19,019 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $380,380 Ticket Price: $20 Mid-South Concerts Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Houston, TX The Summit Jan. 9 & 10, 1992 Capacity: 31,038 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $602,900 Ticket Price: $20 PACE Concerts Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Dayton, OH Erwin J. Nutter Center Jan. 13 & 14, 1992 Capacity: 22,882 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $457,640 Ticket Price: $20 Cellar Door Prods. Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Minneapolis, MN Target Center Jan. 21 & 22, 1992 Capacity: 29,556 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $591,120 Ticket Price: $20 Jam Prods. / Company 7 Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden Las Vegas, NV Thomas & Mack Center Jan. 25, 1992 Capacity: 17,590 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $351,800 Ticket Price: $20 Evening Star Prods. Guns N? Roses, Soundgarden San Diego, CA Sports Arena Jan. 27 & 28, 1992 Capacity: 28,602 Attendance: 27,979 Gross: $614,993 Ticket Price: $22.50 Avalon Attractions Guns N? Roses, Smashing Pumpkins Oklahoma City, OK Myriad Arena April 6, 1992 Capacity: 14,482 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $289,640 Ticket Price: $20 Beaver Prods. Guns N? Roses, Smashing Pumpkins Rosemont, IL Rosemont Horizon April 9, 1992 Capacity: 15,710 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $392,750 Ticket Price: $25 Jam Prods. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: LIGuns on October 02, 2016, 05:28:52 PM Ticket prices were lower, early show in Conneticut was canceled and they were playing Hockey Areas not Football Stadiums..Trust me GNR were a HUGE deal, there was nothing but high anticipation for those shows..People wanted to see them and were curious about the new songs from the delayed UYI set.
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 03, 2016, 09:05:25 AM Ticket prices were lower, early show in Conneticut was canceled and they were playing Hockey Areas not Football Stadiums..Trust me GNR were a HUGE deal, there was nothing but high anticipation for those shows..People wanted to see them and were curious about the new songs from the delayed UYI set. Ok.I was fan then.But i'm suprised how many people saw GNR in thesw 30 shows...Very huge deal.Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: WAR41 on October 03, 2016, 10:27:26 AM Ticket prices were lower, early show in Conneticut was canceled and they were playing Hockey Areas not Football Stadiums..Trust me GNR were a HUGE deal, there was nothing but high anticipation for those shows..People wanted to see them and were curious about the new songs from the delayed UYI set. Ok.I was fan then.But i'm suprised how many people saw GNR in thesw 30 shows...Very huge deal.Yeah both of you are right. Back during UYI they were playing arenas, not football stadiums like LIGuns said. Could they have filled up football stadiums at that point? My guess is as a headliner I don't think they could have. Think about what a major accomplishment it would be for a band whose debut started making waves in summer 1988 to 3 years later after just an EP and a spattering of shows here and there to headline stadiums soon after the release of two LPs. No promoter in the world would have taken that risk I don't think, and hell even the band themselves might have agreed with them back then. In my experience, GNR has been talked about as one of the all-time rock greats only in the last few years. I feel like it really ramped up in 2012 for the 25-year anniversary of AFD. They've reached that elite status and with Axl & Slash reuniting after decades of bad blood (no disrespect to Duff, but those are the two everyone is focused on) it justified a stadium tour. If they make it to round 2 of touring the USA, I think you'll see them play arenas again after all the excitement over the reunion has died down a bit. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: Nikki_Sixx on October 03, 2016, 10:54:10 AM People didn't have to wait 23 years for the UYI tour ...
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: GNR4LIFEJD on October 03, 2016, 11:04:38 AM Biggest thing i took from this is that Smashing Pumpkinds opened for GNR i never new that one lol.
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: D-GenerationX on October 03, 2016, 11:06:16 AM Yeah both of you are right. Back during UYI they were playing arenas, not football stadiums like LIGuns said. Could they have filled up football stadiums at that point? My guess is as a headliner I don't think they could have. Think about what a major accomplishment it would be for a band whose debut started making waves in summer 1988 to 3 years later after just an EP and a spattering of shows here and there to headline stadiums soon after the release of two LPs. No promoter in the world would have taken that risk I don't think, and hell even the band themselves might have agreed with them back then. In my experience, GNR has been talked about as one of the all-time rock greats only in the last few years. I feel like it really ramped up in 2012 for the 25-year anniversary of AFD. They've reached that elite status and with Axl & Slash reuniting after decades of bad blood (no disrespect to Duff, but those are the two everyone is focused on) it justified a stadium tour. If they make it to round 2 of touring the USA, I think you'll see them play arenas again after all the excitement over the reunion has died down a bit. Agree with every word of this. Spot on. I also tend to think areans of they do the States again, because it allows them to hit a lot of cities they had to skip. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: sky dog on October 03, 2016, 12:45:58 PM your missing the Noblesville, Indiana shows Bolton. Thanks for the stats though! :peace:
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 03, 2016, 04:01:13 PM Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More
Pontiac, MI Silverdome July 21, 1992 Capacity: 47,540 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,378,660 Ticket Price: $29 Cellar Door Prods. / Belkin Prods. Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Indianapolis, IN Hoosier Dome July 22, 1992 Capacity: 46,000 Attendance: 38,900 Gross: $1,039,720 Ticket Price: $27.50 Sunshine Promotions Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Buffalo, NY Rich Stadium July 25, 1992 Capacity: 59,326 Attendance: 44,833 Gross: $1,322,574 Ticket Price: $29.50 Metropolitan Entertainment Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Pittsburgh, PA Three Rivers Stadium July 26, 1992 Capacity: 49,345 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,356,988 Ticket Price: $27.50 DiCesare-Engler Prods. Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More E. Rutherford, NJ Giants Stadium July 29, 1992 Capacity: 55,000 Attendance: 49,250 Gross: $1,338,618 Ticket Price: $27.50 Metropolitan Entertainment Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Las Cruces, NM Aggie Memorial Stadium Aug. 27, 1992 Capacity: 35,373 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $972,758 Ticket Price: $27.50 Beaver Prods. Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More New Orleans, LA Superdome Aug. 29, 1992 Capacity: 39,278 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,080,145 Ticket Price: $27.50 Beaver Prods. Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Orlando, FL Citrus Bowl Sep. 2, 1992 Capacity: 50,000 Attendance: 48,035 Gross: $1,320,963 Ticket Price: $28.50 Cellar Door Concerts Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Houston, TX Astrodome Sep. 4, 1992 Capacity: 44,025 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,191,601 Ticket Price: $27.50 PACE Concerts Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Irving, TX Texas Stadium Sep. 5, 1992 Capacity: 44,391 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,220,753 Ticket Price: $27.50 PACE Concerts / Beaver Prods. Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Columbia, SC William Brice Stadium Sep. 7, 1992 Capacity: 40,136 Attendance: 37,716 Gross: $1,037,190 Ticket Price: $27.50 Cellar Door Concerts Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Foxboro, MA Foxboro Stadium Sep. 11, 1992 Capacity: 51,038 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,402,335 Ticket Price: $27.50 Tea Party Prods. Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Toronto, ON (CNE) Exhibition Stadium Sep. 13, 1992 Capacity: 49,888 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,332,917 ($1,621,360 Canadian) Ticket Price: $32.50 Concert Prods. International Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Faith No More Minneapolis, MN Metrodome Sep. 15, 1992 Capacity: 43,292 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,190,530 Ticket Price: $27.50 Jam Prods. / Company 7 Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Body Count Oakland, CA Alameda County Stadium Sep. 24, 1992 Capacity: 59,800 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,650,668 Ticket Price: $27.50 Bill Graham Presents Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Body Count San Diego, CA Jack Murphy Stadium Sep. 30, 1992 Capacity: 45,938 Attendance: 42,167 Gross: $1,159,593 Ticket Prices: $32.50, $27.50 Bill Silva Presents / Avalon Attractions Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Motorhead Pasadena, CA Rose Bowl Oct. 3, 1992 Capacity: 68,639 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $1,852,978 Ticket Price: $30 Avalon Attractions Guns N? Roses / Metallica, Motorhead Seattle, WA Kingdome Oct. 6, 1992 Capacity: 40,000 Attendance: 37,226 Gross: $1,023,715 Ticket Price: $27.50 Bauer Kinnear Enterprises / Bill Graham Presents / Ogden Presents Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Boston, MA Boston Garden March 17, 1993 Capacity: 13,445 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $336,125 Ticket Price: $25 Don Law Co. Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Iowa City, IA Carver-Hawkeye Arena March 20, 1993 Capacity: 15,257 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $343,283 Ticket Price: $22.50 Jam Prods. Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Fargo, ND Fargodome March 21, 1993 Capacity: 17,701 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $402,698 Ticket Price: $22.75 Jam Prods. Guns N? Roses, Deadbeat, Honeymooners Winnipeg, MB Winnipeg Arena March 24, 1993 Capacity: 15,744 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $397,188 ($493,308 Canadian) Ticket Prices: $45, $29.50 Nite Out Entertainment / Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods. Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Saskatoon, SK Saskatchewan Place March 27, 1993 Capacity: 12,677 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $315,964 ($393,091 Canadian) Ticket Prices: $45, $29.50 Nite Out Entertainment / Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods. Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Edmonton, AB Northlands Coliseum March 28, 1993 Capacity: 17,341 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $410,596 ($510,822 Canadian) Ticket Price: $29.50 Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods. Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Vancouver, BC BC Place Stadium March 30, 1993 Capacity: 23,000 Attendance: 21,308 Gross: $553,565 ($692,510 Canadian) Ticket Price: $32.50 Perryscope Concert Prods. / Concert Prods. Int?l / Donald K. Donald Prods. Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Portland, OR Memorial Coliseum April 1, 1993 Capacity: 11,543 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $259,718 Ticket Price: $24 Bill Graham Presents Entertainment Consultants Guns N? Roses, Brian May Band Sacramento, CA Arco Arena April 3, 1993 Capacity: 17,000 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $382,500 Ticket Price: $22.50 Bill Graham Presents Guns N? Roses, Blind Melon Rapid City, SD Rushmore Plaza Civic Center April 9, 1993 Capacity: 11,000 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $247,500 Ticket Price: $22.50 Beaver Prods. Guns N? Roses, Blind Melon Omaha, NE Civic Auditorium April 10, 1993 Capacity: 10,694 Attendance: Sold Out Gross: $240,615 Ticket Price: $22.50 Beaver Prods. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: Lord Stan on October 04, 2016, 04:34:20 AM It's completely wrong to compare any dollar values from 25 years ago. However, there are conversion figures if you want to know how much something was back then in today's money.
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: The Wight Gunner on October 04, 2016, 04:41:01 AM It's completely wrong to compare any dollar values from 25 years ago. However, there are conversion figures if you want to know how much something was back then in today's money. Numbers to look at are those turning up.... I know the cash values are different, but even with inflation, they will never produce a reliable indicator for comparision, bums on seats however remain indisputable. : ok:Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: pilferk on October 04, 2016, 09:41:34 AM Talked about this in the box score thread....
Quote They sold 1,057,693 tickets for a total revenue of $116,835,698. They were 95 (94.66)% sold out for the entire tour. Average ticket price for the whole tour was about $110 (not too shabby, IMHO). Killer numbers, indeed!! By comparison, the UYI Guns/Metallica/FNM tour sold a total of 1,109,881 tickets and was 95.86% sold out (for a grand total of $29,263,142 in gross revenue)....and they did 24 total NA shows, according to the "boxscore" I can find. And to add more context to the Gillette number being off...max capacity of the old foxboro was listed as 51,038. I can't believe the current Gillette is 15k LESS than that. Quote Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: D-GenerationX on October 04, 2016, 09:59:38 AM Pretty wild seeing those old ticket prices.
I don't think think I've paid less than 3 digits in this century. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: jarmo on October 04, 2016, 09:59:52 AM Yeah, this was the first proper stadium tour GN'R has done in North America. Facts are facts.
/jarmo Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: pilferk on October 04, 2016, 12:34:16 PM Yeah, this was the first proper stadium tour GN'R has done in North America. Facts are facts. /jarmo That's what I find most impressive. This IS the first "solo" stadium tour GnR has ever done in North America. And, attendance wise, they pretty closely matched the numbers of a tour they did with (IMHO) 2.5 headliners, in the 90's. The GNR/Metallica/FNM tour was more a festival than it was tour.... You literally had the two biggest rock acts on the planet, at the time, on the same bill. And GnR, in 2016, pretty much matched it. That's fucking impressive as hell, to me. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: pilferk on October 04, 2016, 12:41:52 PM Pretty wild seeing those old ticket prices. I don't think think I've paid less than 3 digits in this century. Average price "back then": $27 Average ticket price today: $110 As a direct comparison, For Foxboro and Meadowlands, I was around the 40 yard line FURTHEST from stage, lower bowl, about midway up in rows (I think it was 18 in Foxboro and 23 at the Meadowlands) in the 90's. We paid, if I remember right, about $80 a ticket with fees, etc. This time, same spot at Met Life....they were about $175 after fees, etc....and we were the FIRST row available at that price. Everything in front of us (and closer to the stage) was $255+fees, I think. I find that VERY typical, in terms of comparing what I paid for shows (when I had to pay) back in the 90's vs now. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 04, 2016, 03:20:51 PM Yeah, this was the first proper stadium tour GN'R has done in North America. Facts are facts. /jarmo That's what I find most impressive. This IS the first "solo" stadium tour GnR has ever done in North America. And, attendance wise, they pretty closely matched the numbers of a tour they did with (IMHO) 2.5 headliners, in the 90's. The GNR/Metallica/FNM tour was more a festival than it was tour.... You literally had the two biggest rock acts on the planet, at the time, on the same bill. And GnR, in 2016, pretty much matched it. That's fucking impressive as hell, to me. Also I didn't understand why guns n roses didn't played stadium tour in 1991 or 1992 in US,I mean solo tour Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: D-GenerationX on October 04, 2016, 05:06:25 PM Not sure they could fill stadiums in 1991, off of one album.
You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere. For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: Walapino on October 04, 2016, 06:00:22 PM Not sure they could fill stadiums in 1991, off of one album. You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere. For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville. Also in 91 only the young people mostly were fans, now its people from 15 to 40+ they have expanded the generations in their fan base. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: Lord Stan on October 05, 2016, 08:27:13 AM You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere. For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville. I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: WAR41 on October 05, 2016, 10:59:33 AM You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere. For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville. I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into. He was talking about back in 1991. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: D-GenerationX on October 05, 2016, 02:43:18 PM You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere. For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville. I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into. He was talking about back in 1991. I was. But I'm also saying that in order to make the operation viable, a full blown stadium tour has to hit all sorts of towns. You can't just cherry pick the largest cities with the best chances for sellouts. That's why the stadium acts are so few and far between. I'm sure a lot of acts that only tour at the arena level could sell out a stadium in Chicago or L.A. But then it comes time to hit the smaller cities and they can't come up with 40-50,000 there. And you can't play half empty places and still make money. And as was pointed out, in 1991, their fanbase was still very young. Take me, I was 13 years old that summer. But this summer I was 38 with a shitload more dispoable income. Legacy bands can do stadium yours and charge huge bucks once their fanbase is older and more affluent. No better example than The Eagles or Stones. Their prices got obscene because their fans were, by that point, older folks with bucks. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: TheBaconman on October 05, 2016, 02:56:58 PM You have to realize you have to fill those places everywhere. For every New York, Chicago, or L.A....you also have to be able to fill up Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Nashville. I am pretty sure the band can choose the towns they go into. He was talking about back in 1991. I was. But I'm also saying that in order to make the operation viable, a full blown stadium tour has to hit all sorts of towns. You can't just cherry pick the largest cities with the best chances for sellouts. That's why the stadium acts are so few and far between. I'm sure a lot of acts that only tour at the arena level could sell out a stadium in Chicago or L.A. But then it comes time to hit the smaller cities and they can't come up with 40-50,000 there. And you can't play half empty places and still make money. And as was pointed out, in 1991, their fanbase was still very young. Take me, I was 13 years old that summer. But this summer I was 38 with a shitload more dispoable income. Legacy bands can do stadium yours and charge huge bucks once their fanbase is older and more affluent. No better example than The Eagles or Stones. Their prices got obscene because their fans were, by that point, older folks with bucks. Its the cost of a stadium production that makes it not feasible to only do a couple of shows If it was a stripped down show, why couldn't they play one or two giant stadium shows? All the band would have to cover would be the cost to rent the venue I for one hate stadium shows or large festivals. Smaller venues for me hands down. I rather pay 600 and be in 2000 seat venue, preferably a bar. Rather than 100 in a 40000 seat venue and watch vie a tv screen. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: D-GenerationX on October 05, 2016, 03:02:11 PM I for one hate stadium shows or large festivals. Smaller venues for me hands down. I rather pay 600 and be in 2000 seat venue, preferably a bar. Rather than 100 in a 40000 seat venue and watch vie a tv screen. Depends on the band, for me. If its some nobody band, or a band just starting out...yeah, cool. But if its a big time established act, one with a long track record of playing large venues with big productions, I don't want "up close and personal" type shows. They feel small time to me and proof that the band is headed in the wrong direction in terms of appeal, relevance, and impact. I absoltuely loved seeing GNR in the stadium this summer. It felt like an event. I had missed that about this band. As they played all those smaller veneues the past few years out of the goodness of their hearts. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: jarmo on October 05, 2016, 03:22:56 PM But I'm also saying that in order to make the operation viable, a full blown stadium tour has to hit all sorts of towns. You can't just cherry pick the largest cities with the best chances for sellouts. That's why the stadium acts are so few and far between. I'm sure a lot of acts that only tour at the arena level could sell out a stadium in Chicago or L.A. But then it comes time to hit the smaller cities and they can't come up with 40-50,000 there. And you can't play half empty places and still make money. That's actually what some acts do. Play the MetLife, Gillette and/or Chicago stadiums and then do arenas or sheds elsewhere. /jarmo Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: TheBaconman on October 05, 2016, 04:43:45 PM I for one hate stadium shows or large festivals. Smaller venues for me hands down. I rather pay 600 and be in 2000 seat venue, preferably a bar. Rather than 100 in a 40000 seat venue and watch vie a tv screen. Depends on the band, for me. If its some nobody band, or a band just starting out...yeah, cool. But if its a big time established act, one with a long track record of playing large venues with big productions, I don't want "up close and personal" type shows. They feel small time to me and proof that the band is headed in the wrong direction in terms of appeal, relevance, and impact. I absoltuely loved seeing GNR in the stadium this summer. It felt like an event. I had missed that about this band. As they played all those smaller veneues the past few years out of the goodness of their hearts. You are not looking at the price of a ticket I quoted for a smaller show A up and coming band or a band that is on the downward slope would not be charging hundreds of dollars for a smaller concert I would just love to see this formation of guns in front of 1000 people and would pay big money for it. The best concerts I have ever seen have been in smaller/weird locations. Weezer in a wave pool in Vegas was fantastic, Billy Idol in front of 500 people in a bar was out of this world good. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: D-GenerationX on October 05, 2016, 05:12:07 PM It would also depend on the kind of show.
If I see GNR in some super small spot, don't play the stadium show. Need s different set list that's a bit more unique. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: TheBaconman on October 05, 2016, 05:22:36 PM It would also depend on the kind of show. If I see GNR in some super small spot, don't play the stadium show. Need s different set list that's a bit more unique. Yes now you are talking. I would pay great money for a small venue, with a once in a lifetime setlist, not unplugged!. No covers! And paridise not being the closer!!!!! but the opener! Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: draguns on October 05, 2016, 10:00:18 PM Not me. I like the fact that they do stadiums. I hope in fall of 2017 that they play at MSG, Prudential Center, etc. For me, a bar wouldn't do since you have to stand for the show. Halestorm played outside at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park last year. I couldn't go since it is a standing only venue. When Slash did his solo show at Terminal 5 last year, it's standing only. For some people, these venues are not accessible to go.
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: Lord Stan on October 06, 2016, 04:56:19 AM Its the cost of a stadium production that makes it not feasible to only do a couple of shows I see, that sounds about correct. Producing 25 stadium shows is not 25 times more expensive as doing one. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: WAR41 on October 06, 2016, 01:27:16 PM Not gonna lie, when the tour was announced I was seriously bummed that it was a stadium tour. I mean SERIOUSLY bummed. Out of the literally hundreds of shows I've been to throughout my life not once had I seen a stadium show because it was too impersonal for me.
Then I got to see GNR twice (Philly and the 2nd Metlife show) and I've gotta say, it was spectacular. It was such a crazy experience seeing those entire venues packed to see the band and going crazy. The stage production was terrific. I will always prefer arena/club shows to stadiums, but I know that if GNR played stadiums again it would still be a great experience. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 06, 2016, 02:35:08 PM Ibwatched Guns two times in Arena Belgreade w010 and Budapest 2006 andnone stadium show 2012 in Sofia...I had amazing expirience on all shows but stadiums had some crazy spirit...
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: nick6sic6 on October 16, 2016, 04:25:44 PM Ibwatched Guns two times in Arena Belgreade w010 and Budapest 2006 andnone stadium show 2012 in Sofia...I had amazing expirience on all shows but stadiums had some crazy spirit... What a 3+ hour-long setlist was that in Sofia ! One of the best. Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: Six Strings on October 17, 2016, 07:46:58 AM I am from Sofia and I was to the show. It was indeed amazing however I liked the Belgrade one more. Personal feeling I guess. :D
Title: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: bolton on October 18, 2016, 02:07:47 PM I am from Sofia and I was to the show. It was indeed amazing however I liked the Belgrade one more. Personal feeling I guess. :D Yeah...Serbian fans are like south america fans...very loud and crazyTitle: Re: First par of NITL tour had a better numbers than uyi tour Post by: nick6sic6 on October 18, 2016, 04:44:48 PM I am certain that when the tour hits Europe,hopefully next summer, it will be as successful as the north american leg and every show close to being sold out.
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