Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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When does the show start? Use this link (set for 9:25 pm) for your local time:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=GN%27R+in+Chicago&iso=20160703T2125&p1=64

If you prefer to have a countdown timer set up in your browser, you can use this one (it's set for 9:25 pm):
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160703T2125&p0=64&msg=GN%27R+in+Chicago&font=serif


SET TIMES:

Alice in Chains - Scheduled to start at 8:00 pm
Guns N' Roses - Scheduled to start at 9:25 pm


SETLIST:

1. It's So Easy
2. Mr. Brownstone
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Welcome To The Jungle
5. Double Talkin' Jive
6. Estranged
7. Live And Let Die
8. Rocket Queen
9. You Could Be Mine
10. Raw Power w/You Can't Put Your Arms..
11. This I Love
12. Civil War
13. Coma
14. Godfather Theme
15. Sweet Child O' Mine
16. Better
17. Out Ta Get Me
18. Wish You Were Here
19. November Rain w/Layla
20. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
21. Nightrain

22. Don't Cry
23. The Seeker
24. Paradise City

It's time for a change in setlist ...  :peace:

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Taking my boys to their first concert tonight! I never got to see the original lineup since my parents wouldn't let a 12 year old nd go see them.  This parent is instead bringing the boys with! Have fun! 

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Gotta say the "local" merch has been freaking cool up to this point! I just wish they would sell t-shirts in more colours. I have way too many black shirts, a blue or green band tee would be cool!

If anyone wants to do an unofficial meet up, I'm down at Reggie's Bar on State street. They're doing shuttles to the show!.

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Just read that Terminator 2: Judgment Day was released in theaters 25 years ago today. Wonder if there'll be a little extra oomph in "You Could Be Mine" tonight?  : ok:

We eat lunch about 11......have a quick snack around 9....i don't eat no dinner because caterings a waste of my fucking time.

TWAT and Perfect Crime.  :peace:

That would be cool. But TWAT wasn't on the setlist.

creative lol

They played it at soundcheck today.

I think we'll get to see Slither today.

AIC are on

Yeah but how long was OMG on the setlist?  Just b/c it is (or isn't) on the setlist doesn't mean it will (or won't) get played.  I'm looking forward to the show tonight.  In Vegas, they mixed up the setlist for the second show a little bit (My Michelle, Don't Cry).  I'm not expecting any monumental changes, but IMO they'll mix it up some.  

any periscope dripstream doesnt seem to be streaming tonight?

Thats awesome then :)

My guess is Coma out TWAT in.

www.periscope.tv/w/akhuOzkyNzQyOTF8MXJteFBwWEFyUkR4TqqwdJ_lUU8yGKcS1NqN-tPFruFKKR6FPGGgcVC5YD1qu

https://www.periscope.tv/w/akhurzFtTUVQdnZPYlBPS0d8MW5BS0VxWmRRWWVLTC0oW3Qb85oCJ6tXd3YFASlnoc8ySvhA3RABKYTx8AV8 (https://www.periscope.tv/w/akhurzFtTUVQdnZPYlBPS0d8MW5BS0VxWmRRWWVLTC0oW3Qb85oCJ6tXd3YFASlnoc8ySvhA3RABKYTx8AV8)

Here's Little EMO Annie, HTGTH's very own, bouncing up and down while filming......

https://www.periscope.tv/w/akhvpzFtTUVQdnZPYlBPS0d8MU1ZR05CUGtPcXpHd339OEeo7Jvp9W8jOBSpAtnTn68zXoXIpY5aupX3Kezt

https://www.periscope.tv/SpeedTrend1/1rmxPpXArRDxN

he sounds awesome on jungle

i think some feeds are obviously diffrent than others in terms of sound quality

Scopes are all cuttin in and out tonight.

Yeah, unfortunately. Do appreciate the effort Annie. Thank you for trying.

Ali

I do to. Its all the scopes tonight! Not just Annie's.

But what is playing...they sound really good again tonight!

Is it the venue's wifi or whatever network provides internet ?
Remember the Vegas shows,every periscope link was perfect.

Agreed. Unfortunate in that regard.

Ali

No WiFi. Cellular signal from an outside venue.

Ali

Ok ! Right now Little Annie's link works fine.

Def gotten better (no pun intended)!

anybody know roughly what the attendance is?

Damn it Pilf you jinxed it mine froze right after you posted that :P

yea annies links cutting in and out but hers is the best one ive found sound quality is good to very authentic

F5 refresh helps

Jinxed it for me to.... :(

No f5 on an ios or android device. ;)

rocket queen hes half singing half rasping sounds kinda good though

Also worth pointing out...they went on about 10 or 15 min early, again....

Soldier Field must have a stricter curfew then the previous shows.

Ycbm sounded awesome!

Raw power, tonight, instead of new rose. One more song and its off to bed for me!

: ok: :yes:
I was worried for a second that Axl was going to blow out his vocal cords prior to Orlando.

Ali

Slash's This I Love solo is now my favorite. He's really made it his own and it's bad ass!!!

Til, too...he really, really pushed hard. Sounded really good. With that, i go to find my favorite pillow. Early plans with my kiddos at the batting cages/go karts/and mini golf while my lovely wife has to work.

Night all! Enjoy the rest of the show!

I think Axl is spending some time with Melissa he's starting to sound like a tween! How i roll? dope af? That's stuff i never thought he'd ever say.

This might be the best sounding Axl so far on this tour? Civil War was really raspy and Coma is fuckin' great.

Judging only from the stream obviously.

Just trying to broaden the band's appeal and reach out to the newer generation of Gunners.

Ali

Ending of Coma was vintage Axl

Out ta get me is.a.staple with amazing vocals again.  : ok:

Long lost art of guitar. That'd be funny if it weren't so sadly true.

Well done Annie!!


Thank you  :beer: :love: : ok:

Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Slash in Chicago
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Setlist: It?s So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Chinese Democracy, Welcome To The Jungle, Double Talkin? Jive, Estranged, Live And Let Die, Rocket Queen, You Could Be Mine, You Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory/Raw Power, This I Love, Civil War, Coma, Band Intros, Slash Solo (Godfather)/Sweet Child O' Mine, Better, Out Ta Get Me, Wish You Were Here/Layla/November Rain, Knockin' On Heaven's Door, Nightrain

Encore: Jam/Don't Cry, The Seeker, Paradise City
   


/jarmo

:beer:

So no changes, right?

yeak, thank you :)

Only change was the song Duff performed.

People need to get over this set list change shit. At the most they might -might - rotate a song around or add in a new one. They also might get a little crazy, feel good and play an extra 30 minutes.

But they're more than likely going to stick with the status quo. There isn't going to be some massive drastic change.

This is a big time tour where they want everything exactly in place. They're not fucking around here and they're not going to play loose. They're a well oiled machine, hitting the stage at an earlier than normal hour and then getting on to the next show.

This is a different GnR than the one in the 1990s. There's a lot more at stake, in part because of what it would mean to legacies and to the critics, but - I suspect - to themselves as well.

This tour is not only going to make hundreds of millions and it's going to cost a shit ton as well, so they want to nail everything from the production, lights, timing, etc.

Going nuts and switching up things isn't going to help.

I saw the Rolling Stones three times last summer during their stadium tour. They didn't rarely and barely change the set list - as I recall - other than to play the fan "pick" that they would let folks vote on their web site.

I suppose I'm not surprised about the set list bitching, though.

"Fans" have been doing it since 2001. I also question how many of these people who complain are actually attending the shows. Or, more importantly, attending more than one show.

My two cents.

Flame me if you want.

Well said NattyLight... All around. The people at Mygnr are pathetic. They spend years on the site all day every and now they still cry about a set list with Coma and DTJ...or how they only sold 40 thousand seats for a show etc etc

The pyro and graphics id imagine also makes it difficult to vary the set list too much from night to night.

With that said I was a little surprised the set was identical for two nights in the same city, especially since we know there are many alternates.

Big difference between complaining and hoping.
I am hoping for some changes to set list as a fan so I can hear Slash and Axl and company perform other favorites of mine.
Back to back shows at same venue without a chance (even patience for Don't cry) surprised me.
I certainly have no complaints!

A big stadium show like this does not really allow for wholesale changes.  This is pretty much the show.

But, at least to me, the difference this time is not in the setlists, but in the line-up.  These may be the same songs every night, but they are also being delivered with better vocals, backing vocals, and guitar playing than the last few tours offered.

That is what is new and different.  At least as I see it.

I don't see anyone here whining, complaining or whatever you wanna call it.
Everyone is pretty happy and just hoping they play their favorite song, especially if it's on their alt list.
Also this is a fan board. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this is the perfect group of people and the perfect place to discuss all the little details (including setlist) that you normally can't discuss in your daily life, since most people are not die hard fans like we are.
So just chill out. You're over-dramatizing the situation.

How was the crowd on night 2? How did it sell? Set list doesn't matter just enjoy the show!

I think the 300 and 400 levels were closed off on one side, otherwise filled up.

I don't think NaturalLight is over dramatizing. I read someone's post in the other forum who said he's not spending any money on concert tickets nor other expenses regarding the shows. Instead he's watching the concerts online. This person has been complaining about the set list. It's beyond ridiculous!

A bit of speculation about setlist changes is perfectly normal and natural for us die-hards I reckon.

Making it a big issue as it seems to be in other places on the net is pretty weird! It's not like this show has been touring for years without change!

Well then take it up in that forum?but complaining about someone complaining in another forum is a bit much.  No one here is really bitching about the setlist?obviously it would be cool to hear them play some other stuff but whatever.  I never thought I?d see them play anything so it?s all gravy to me, and, as someone else pointed out, Coma and DTJ?are you kidding me? 

SCOM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NSTesZ5nlc

LALD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebKhzIieOJ8

OTGM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiIpisgz_2Q

NR:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsNPxwYBXKQ

WTTJ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVMhs_-Cjo4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gObB-A_XElQ

Godfather:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTmdSlXbgcI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_UGuHFUHNc (incl. SCOM)

Don't Cry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPgEqHzd9Do

I took it up here because it's been a problem here - on this forum. It's incessant. For years people have bitched about the set lists and lack of changes once tours start. Go through the threads specific to shows and you'll see.

I'm glad they're playing Coma and DTJ.

That's exactly the issue. They're playing those songs and people are fucking complaining and want a shake-up in the list.

You'd think that with the original core back and back playing songs that the last incarnation of GnR wouldn't touch, people would be happy.

I think the majority of the people are. But there's still a bunch of whining.

I've read through all of the show threads so far, and while I've seen a small subset of board members posting their hopes/predictions for changes in the setlist, and a much smaller subset reacting to the lack of change (though not particularly angrily or vehemently), the vast majority of posts I've seen are excited about the shows regardless of set list.

I'd call it sporadic, not incessant.

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I defy the people who complain about setlist changes to name another big act in the world right now that plays a complete different set each show.

The only one I know is Bruce Springsteen, who plays around 300 different songs each tour. But he's played with the E Street Band for more than 50 years now, they're pretty tight and comfortable.

Other than that, The Stones, U2 etc. always have a fixed setlist with minor changes each night.

That being said, I do think GNR should rotate some songs. Play Catcher or Street of Dreams instead of This I Love some nights, throw Yesterdays in, and why not Locomotive instead of Coma? It doesn't hurt to dream  :hihi:

Is it true that Slither was listed as one of the alternates?  If so, would anyone complain if that was swapped out for Seeker?  If they bust out Slither post-encore at Metlife, I will shit myself (not really, but I'll get very fired up). 

I was at both shows, both were amazing and I don't regret either one.  To be honest though, when Paradise City started last night I decided  To beat the crowds and listen on the way out.  When Duff played Raw Power I thought - ok maybe some of those alternated make it tonight...

While not disappointed in the least, nor complaining...I am quite surprised that they played nearly an identical show night 2 in the same city with alternates on their set list. 

And for fuck sake...leave  The Seeker alone!!!!  If you want to bitch about a cover song - bitch about KOHD. 

Slither is listed, yes.

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Or LALD

LALD has been most excellent on this tour imo

Don't get me wrong, I like the song. But in the end, it's a cover. I know GNR made it their own, but I'd rather hear a different song, an original one (Yesterdays, Sorry, Pretty Tied Up, etc.)

But I get that this song's been a staple at GNR shows since the 90's, so I know they won't drop it

The only "complaint" I had was that 1/3 of the songs being played are covers, when they have all these GNR originals to play.

I'll agree that I don't expect there to be much change, especially when people are suggesting changes when the band is only 4-5 shows into the tour!

The J-Man with the setlist!!! Thanks, Man!!!

what an awesome 2 night stand!

I got posters from both nights, they were fucking awesome. I wish I woulda also got the T-Shirt from last night. The stand I went to only had a small. I looked on eBay, some ppl have Fridays up for big money. I'd like to buy a large from last night

I'm just saying it's ridiculous to complain when you are not planning to go to the concert and just sitting at home watching it. No skin in the game. 

A couple of weeks ago, I met up with a close friend who would LOVE to go  to the GNR concert at MetLife Stadium. He can't since he got laid off in Feb. He has a family, mortgage, and car payments to think about before anything else.  Whether it's here or at another forum, it's a bit ridiculous to complain since it's very early in the tour. Enjoy the show and appreciate it! Eventually these guys are not going to be able to perform since they are getting older.

I think we'll see Slither at this show. It's either that or some surprise. GNR will be performing in the BIGGEST market and it's Slash b-day.

Drooling over some of those alternates....Slither, Nice Boys, Yesterdays, Whole lotta rosie, Think About you

I think maybe I'm the only one who's not excited at all about them playing Slither.

I never really cared for it. It's cool and all, but extremely forgettable. It's got a nice solo, though.

Slash has tons of better songs (I Hold On, By The Sword, Nothin' To Say, Anastasia, You Got No Right, etc.)

But I don't think they should play any of those either. Stick to GNR songs and a few covers by other bands other than Slash, Duff, etc.

I always preferred Fall to Pieces over Slither.

Dont Cry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFv4HGIKd4

I sent a message to Frank on Facebook the morning before this show...saying that he should try sticking with the original sound of Dont Cry...play slower...he read it!  :hihi: 
And I think he played slower and more similar than the original than ever! thanks Frank!  :hihi:

I'd honestly just like to see them put all those alt songs in over a few shows. They are listed for a reason. They wouldn't have them if they hadn't rehearsed them countless times and are comfortable playing them. I'm not expecting to hear something not on the alt list. I'd just like to hear the alt songs a few times.

Remember when Axl mentioned that he heard Slash's demo of what-was-to-become Fall to Pieces.It would be great to hear his vocals on that song.

Any chance that Slither might be photoshopped ? Just a guess.

No.



/jarmo

No, you aren't.  I can't stand Slither.  Honestly, the velvet revolver albums were quite underwhelming to me.  If Slash insists on a non GNR song that he wrote...I'd kill to hear this band play World on Fire.  That song was just meant to be a Guns song.

I'll take it !  :)

I'm hoping for don't cry over patience saturday

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I think a change in setlist would be appropriate if a large percentage of the audience were going to seversl shows..Cool setlist, stick with it! Even during the UYI tour, the setlist was usually just in a different order with a couple of alternative songs mixed in...

We all have our favorites as far as post-'93 GNR alumni songs, but in terms of popularity, it's Slither.  None of the others come close, except Fall to Pieces.  So for concert purposes, I think you go by what most in the audience know. 

Glad that everybody enjoyed it. I adjusted my settings to save my broadcasts. I will be scoping AXL/DC in MSQ in September. :)

I honestly dont care if they play the very same setlist when I get to see them! As long as Coma is there!!  :beer:

Popularity doesn't make it a good song.  It just means some exec decided to give it a bunch of AirPlay.

No, it doesn't (and I did not say it did) but it does make a song more likely to be well-received at a concert performance.  I like World on Fire too, but I don't see the value to Slash, or the band in general, of having me, you and 3 other guys at the show recognize the song when they start playing it.  Slither, on the other hand, is very well known, they'll get a good crowd response from it, which will add to the energy of the show.  For example, SCOM is far from my favorite GNR tune, but it's great to see a venue light up as soon as that guitar intro is played. 
 

I was at both shows and had a great time.  Sat fairly close for the 1st show.  Got home seen that tix for 2nd show were pretty cheap so I jumped on it and drove back.  They rocked both nights!  I was a little disappointed that it was the same set list except for Duff's song, but that's only because I knew of the alternates.  Awesome fireworks at the end of Paradise City!  I like that they are playing all the songs with good tempo but it seemed some of the songs may have been shortened or I just wanted them to keep going.

I do understand that in a stadium show, they must play more the "crowd pleasers". There's lot of casual fans over there that only know a bunch of songs.

That's why they play the more famous songs, but some more obscure (like Coma) for the diehards.

But if you ask those casual fans which song they'd rather hear, between Slither or any other GNR song, I definately think they'd go for GNR.

And also, if you're gonna do a cover, there's literally thousands of better and more known choices to go with (Zeppelin, Stones, Who, etc). That's why the "Slither is famous" argument doesn't convince me.

IMO the only reason they are considering playing it is to please Slash and Duff.

Right, but it's not exactly just any other random cover, it's a hit song from within the expanded GNR universe or at least a related galaxy, specifically involving the 2 guys whose recent re-joining has elevated the band's popularity. 

Plus, you'll have a good number of younger fans there who might prefer something other than another GNR song that's older than them and would rather hear something they have more of a direct connection with.  Of course, they could play another CD song instead of Slither, which would get no complaints from me, but I think I'd be in the minority on that. 

As far as pleasing Slash and Duff, I don't think that would be the only reason, but if it makes them happy, then great. 

Yes it was very frustrating, the first night I could not get periscope to work at all until the nice guy next to me told me to turn the wifi setting to off on my phone. Then I was able to broadcast with LGE. It said live the whole time. Soldier Field is also right next to the lake.

Maybe not the only reason, but one of them. Axl must like the song, otherwise he wouldn't agree to sing it. If he's the person singing it.

Thank you so much for periscoping Annie!!!
Great job!!!  Much appreciated!!! : ok:

Yes, thank you, Annie.  Very gracious of you to go to the trouble of doing that.

Ali

Honestly, I'd take any song over Slither.  Another Guns song or not.  Hell, he wrote Locomotive too.  Go with another GNR deep cut.

I wouldn't be dissatisfied by any means if they had played it, just prefer billions of songs over it.  GNR could go out and play a setlist filled with Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and Mary Had a Little Lamb and I'd eat it up.  I'd still much prefer other songs though.

I could go for a few more CD songs too.  I did get frustrated when people in my section sat down during This I Love, Chinese Democracy, and Better.  I'm also in the minority....but I prefer the recorded version of This I Love to Slash's so far.  He may change my mind yet, though.

At least you recognise you are in the minority... thats something i guess.  :-\

Would like to see them play "Slither" - and subsequently the live fans' reception to it.

Then would like to see certain posters' reaction to that reception.  :hihi:

I would personally like to see Slash vary from the Godfather theme during his solo section ("Safari Inn," "Watch This," or "Anastasia" if there's no chance of a band cover). I would also be happy to see Duff switch it up ("Dust N' Bones," "14 Years," or "I Don't Care About You")

As for playing "Slither" or any other VR cover, there's certainly enough overlap of GNR and VR fans to justify them doing so. Besides its obvious novelty (like hearing Slash play Chinese Democracy songs), "Slither" (and several other VR songs) has considerable stature in the GNR universe. I'm positive most fans would respond very favorably to seeing it played.

As for the setlist discussion, it's only natural for fans who follow the band as closely as we do to discuss songs we would like to see played, paticularly when we see setlists that include some of those songs for inclusion. Most of the discussion I have seen has been reasonable and respectful, and certainly not worthy of the outrage some posters have expressed in this thread. I'm sure most of us are still shocked and thrilled that this is even happening, and most of us think the current setlist is great; but that doesn't mean we can't offer opinions on additions, deletions, or changes we would still like to see. It's fun to discuss, and maybe there's an off-chance that the feedback actually gets consideration.

With that said, it would be great to see, at some point, "Locomotive," "Breakdown," and "The Garden." Same goes for a number of the Chinese Democracy songs: "I.R.S," "The Blues," "There Was A Time," "Shackler's Revenge," and "Catcher In The Rye" would be cool to see.

Jesus, Booker where you been?  Spot on?couldn?t have said it any better.  Regarding Slither, the crowd would go ape shit if they played that.  Much like hearing Axl sing an AC/DC set, it?s cool to hear him sing new songs?a song with an obvious nod towards Slash and Duff would make it that much cooler.  That it?s even on the setlist show to me that that?s not lost on Axl.

I don't think we're ever gonna see songs like Shackler's Revenge and Rhiad played by this band. It's just too different from Slash's style. And I don't think they really work live.

In fact, I don't think Better works live either. Axl's vocals on the studio version are amazing, especially on the verses, but he doesn't seem to be able to replicate that live.

On a side note, has Breakdown ever been played live?

"Breakdown" has been performed twice I believe, once in Boston and once in New York City. Someone at MyGNRForum recently made a good post discussing some of these live rarities, and it was a reminder that GNR has a record of occasionally including these surprise deep cuts in their setlists. That's the kind of positive unpredictability many of us would like to see in this tour. If we don't, it's still an awesome show; but if we do, it's just that much better.  :yes:

I hope so. Coma, Locomotive and Breakdown are IMO the most underrated GNR songs ever

It was my pleasure. I was so grateful to all the people who scoped the Axl/DC shows from Europe. And i wanted to share with my Brazilian homie Rodolfo.  When my arm got tired I just thought about how brave he is! :)

There's always a Brazilian. :hihi:
But hey, thanks. Much appreciated also how you got rid of the flood of comments - even tho you can dismiss it in the app, it's just not possible when watching it on a desktop browser. Thank you. :)

Don't know if it has been posted, but this is one of the best reviews I've read this year:

http://www.antimusic.com/reviews/16/Guns_N_Roses-_Not_In_This_Lifetime_Concert_Review.shtml

WOW!  That is the best review ever!

Excellent review! I like the line: "The first embodiment of the band was a result of collision and chemistry while the 2016 manifestation is one of professionalism, proficiency and passion. No one ever thought the personalities would gel or see eye-to-eye in such a fashion that a tour of this magnitude would ever be possible. Seeing them onstage is a miracle unto itself, but watching the intricate mastery of these songs, while still maintaining the sleazy swagger they were incepted with is truly something to behold"

I never thought a concert review could bring tears to my eyes. Wow.

I haven't cried this much about GNR since last Friday when I cried during Estranged.

HAAAAA MY SWEET DEAR BELOVED FRIEND !!!! U R THE MOST SWEET PERSON THAT ANYONE COULD EVER KNOW!!!! U MAKE MY  GNR FAMILY MORE SPECIAL!!! MUCH LOVE......RodS

The quality on your stream was also very good, Annie. To top that, we got lucky as Axl delivered, imo, the best vocal performance of this tour and his best since 2010, so thanks a lot!

I was there both nights.  Yes, I was disappointed in the same set list.  But then I bang my head against the wall- I just saw two nights of Axl, Slash, and Duff setting Chicago on fire!  And Coma both nights!  I'm the luckiest guy ever!

You really gotta thank Rodolfo. This total douchebag was standing next to me and he kept trying to touch me and block me from filming. But I was determined to film this show for my friend so I just gave him the Ice Cube death stare and he backed the fuck off. Did anybody hear when I said into the phone the guy next to me is a total douchebag?

This guy is a fan.

So? Tony Kuzminki is still a very good and capable writer. If there's people biased against the band, why not a bias in favor?

yeah. i did. but u know,  there s always an asshole,  everywhere. u rox!