Here Today... Gone To Hell!

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When does the show start? Use this link (set for 9:25 pm) for your local time:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=GN%27R+in+Kansas+City&iso=20160629T2125&p1=405

If you prefer to have a countdown timer set up in your browser, you can use this one (it's set for 9:25 pm):
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160629T2125&p0=405&msg=GN%27R+in+Kansas+City&font=cursive


SET TIMES:

Alice in Chains - Scheduled to start at 8:00 pm
Guns N' Roses - Scheduled to start at 9:25 pm

GN'R started at 9:25 and ended at 11:57, the show lasted for 2 hrs 32 mins.


SETLIST:

1. It's So Easy
2. Mr. Brownstone
3. Chinese Democracy
4. Welcome To The Jungle
5. Double Talkin' Jive
6. Estranged
7. Live And Let Die
8. Rocket Queen
9. You Could Be Mine
10. Raw Power
11. This I Love
12. Civil War
13. Godfather Theme
14. Sweet Child O' Mine
15. Coma
16. Better
17. Out Ta Get Me
18. Wish You Were Here
19. November Rain w/Layla
20. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
21. Nightrain

22. Don't Cry
23. The Seeker
24. Paradise City

Guns N? Roses plays at Arrowhead for first time in 24 years

http://fox4kc.com/2016/06/29/guns-n-roses-plays-at-arrowhead-for-first-time-in-24-years/

You'd think that a "real" news article like this would spell the lead singer's name correctly.   ::)

those anchors are clowns

It does have that "let's wing it" feel to it.. lol

As usual...people mocking Axl. Its cool to mock him on TV nowadays.

Axl has gotten better press in 2016 than he has since...well, since maybe ever.

Even at his UYI prime, he was seen a juvenile asshole.  You might have to go back to 1988 or so to see when he was last spoken about as favorably as he's been in 2016.

If Axl didn't have the ego maniac rock star persona from day 1... This site would not exist.

It is part of who he is ... Stop whining about the reputation he has .. There would be no GNR without everything that comes with Axl and what made him who he is.

For non nfl fans ... Arrowhead stadium has a reputation for being one of the loudest buildings in the league ... I'm sure it will be rockin tonight !

Del's repeating you!  :hihi:

del james ‏@deljamesgang
Tonight it's gonna get loud!
@gunsnroses #NotInThisLifetime
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Short hair??

Also did they not play the Midland in Kansas City in 2013??

Driving there now, can't wait!

I totally agree.

I also think you really have to work the persecution complex pretty hard this year.  It's just one good review after another, from all corners.

Agree

I have stopped being bothered about some media painting Axl as a "madman". As you say there are now overwhelmingly more positive reports from the media, more than ever I think. People have more access to the media, and I think the casual fans are seeing right through theses "negative" reports. Likely more than a million people will see GN'R live in the US this year, they will form their own opinions... it will be a positive one. Guaranteed.

The large majority of these reviews are hugely positive... I think most people need to get used to the fact that most of the writers and tv media members (especially the local ones we read after each of the individual nights) does not care about 01-14... for the most part they are either pretending it doesn't exist or really do not know the volume of shows played over that time frame... You are going to see a lot of 'first area show in 23 years' type headlines. Embrace the positivity unlike anything we've seen since the UYI era and be happy... there is always going to be a shot here or there about the CD tunes or CD era members. Bitching about it after each of the next 20 something shows isn't going to change it (definition of insanity and all)

Video promo for tonight's show:
https://twitter.com/gnrla/status/747941862938378241

Demonstration on how the sound bounces around in this stadium:
https://twitter.com/MmundyMundy/status/744334041587978241

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Does anyone know what arrowhead considers to be a professional camera?

Not sure, but probably a DSLR?

Pretty cool!

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Litho and t-shirt

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Jarmo | HTGTH.com ‏@htgth   Kansas City, MO
Tonight @ Arrowhead Stadium https://www.instagram.com/p/BHQURCahKsx/

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Sorry for the double post.

Fernando
Nothing beats traveling by bus.

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Sorry for the triple post and stupid question from the city girl. 
WTF??  Are cows that you eat from KC, MO??
I don't get it.  Why are there instructions on how to dismember a cow on their litho and tee??  :confused:

del james ‏@deljamesgang
I entered.

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Who's all going to b at the show tonight?

Kansas City is famous for Barbecue... Those are all of the different cuts of meat you would use in KC BBQ. The 'mouth' is a pig and it's various parts...

Thanks.
Learn something new every day.  :-[

Made me wonder about what dismemberment might appear on the MetLife stuff.
NYC/NJ is famous for..... ummm, never mind.  :-X

Axel Rose.
The band broke up in 1993.

Fox news living up to its reputation...

I'm here, drove all the way from Sioux Falls, South Dakota. GNR has never played Sioux Falls,  so I have had to travel 3 or more hours everytime I have seen them. This time it was 5 and a half. Hope they play Coma.

Although I agree that's poor research, isn't there a difference between "Fox News" and the local Fox News channels? Do they have the same biased programming?

I have no idea. Im not familiar with their different channels.

I think when you're referring to "their reputation", you're thinking of the national cable channel "Fox News". The ones doing the reporting in the article is not the same channel. I don't know for sure, but I don't think these local channels have the same reputation.

Not important really, it was poor research anyways.

Yeah, i just saw a bad article with fox news written over it and went ''ah-ha''.

Kansas City Fox News didnt raise the bar on this one ;)

Have fun, ryanb964!
After all this driving you really deserve it.
Don't forget to tell us all the details afterwards.  ;)

Also it unfortunately looks like the whole upper deck got redirected to different seats, no one is in the upper deck. People don't know what they are missing.

They've still been doing good crowds. Football stadiums hold upwards of 80,000 people. 80,000 people is a tough draw for any concert these days.

For end-stage concerts it's more like 50,000 though. Still big.

KC is famous for its BBQ. I used to live in MO.  Nice touch on them including it. That will be a big seller for sure....probably #1.

I'm glad to hear that the fans there are happy with the design. 

It's really cool that the marketing people did their research and came up with something that is meaningful/special for the local fans.  : ok:
 

I wonder if Bumblefoots hot sauces are sold at the concert  ;D

Does anyone know what the ticket sales look like for this show?

Going by ticketmaster it should be pretty much sold out.

Only current member's hot sauces allowed.  ;D

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I know you guys are joking but KC takes its BBQ very seriously. Had Ron tried pimping that hot sauce around there(pretending for a sec he's in the lineup), he'd get booed when hitting the stage.

If a fan were to take a bottle of that hot sauce into a restaurant there you'd likely get thrown through the window.  :P


I do like how GNR are marketing things to specific regions and its not just generic merch through the whole country. They have put a lot of thought into this. Anyone saying this is a worthless "cash grab" or GNR doesn't care about the fans can eat shit.

It's very cool indeed. A little extra "thing" to look forward to, wondering what they've designed for your own city.

Is AIC on yet? Should be half way through their set by now.

They went on at 8 pm yes.

Looks like they closed the upper deck again(similar to DC). Will still be a great show I'm sure

I guess Guns are expected around the same time as DC about 9:30 give or take.

I hope that the will play Sorry and/or Perfect Crime tonight.

I still find that strange because a lot of tickets were sold on the upper deck. There weren't nearly enough empty seats in the lower sections to accommodate for that.

I have a theory they want to pack the lower sections first, thus upgrading the first upper deck people coming to the stadium. When it's packed in the lower bowls and field, they open the upper deck.

FYI take this with a huge grain of salt but i just read on MYGNR that they tested screens with video for Perfect Crime.

If you are correct i hope that happens in Arlington. I would gladly take an upgrade from 434!

GN'R should be on in about 50 mins.

They just posted this on the GNR twitter.  They posted the same thing at the previous shows.  I'm guessing it's for a seating upgrade even better than where the upper deck people are being moved to??

Guns N' Roses ‏@gunsnroses

If you're at @arrowheadevents tweet your seat, section & row with #GNRKansasCity! You never know...

even if upper sections are closed off for some markets they will still get 35-42,000 people that's NOT BAD GUYS lets just enjoy. not many rock acts can pull this off

I don't think anyone here said it would be bad.

Not bad at all. Of course i'd prefer every seat to sell out. However, if the upper deck being closed results in getting myself better seats i won't be complaining!

None of this could be viewed as bad! I look forward to each show like it's a once in a lifetime deal. Bring on the Periscopes!! :beer:

Fucking morons spelled Axl's name wrong!!!!

30 minutes..

Really really hope they sell out all seats in Philly.  My seat is small section under the top upper deck in the back.  We picked the seats because we could be in the front row of that section with no one sitting in front of us.  If they put us in the back of the next section down I'll be sure to throw a hissy fit for at least 5-10 minutes!  ;D

Ready to rock! Section 117.

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I really hope for a good periscope link and a steady hand !
Thank you in advance to the folks who provide.
 :beer:

Haha yeah i get that. For me though, i have handicap seating those are always in the front of every section and unobstructed. So in my case if i do get upgraded it will be awesome!

Nice to see Tommy  :peace: A song or two with him would be cool!

That's awesome Tommy came to show his support for the band that he was a huge part of for many years.

DO THIS!!!!! My brother did that exact thing in DC and he got 6th row seats!!!! I didn't know weather to be pissed off or happy for him. The squeaky wheel always gets the grease

Perfect Crime will be the opener... (hope mode on)

Guns hitting the stage now!

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1MnxnzeNELexO

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Ahhh,another fucking Great t-shirt Axl is wearing right now !
The band is fired up !

I'm pretty sure he wore the same shirt during the DC show.

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Any links?

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https://www.periscope.tv/w/1RDGlwdqrqRKL

Thank You  :peace:

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1ZkKzvVrnAWKv

What did Axl say?  "When we were kids we dreamed about it"?

https://www.periscope.tv/ZooportRiotGear/1yoJMLkEWReGQ

https://www.periscope.tv/shoezanne2/1YqKDVdBZyVJV

No Coma after Civil War?  ???

it's next. patience my good friend

SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nope went right into godfather and SCOM after Civil War. Perhaps we are getting a big setlist change tonight. Maybe the Perfect Crime rumor from MYGnr is true.

No Coma lol. Maybe he's not feeling his voice today. It's def the "weaker" out of the 3 so far. Still good tho...

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

There goes my dum theory lol COMA!!!!

There we go! I guess they are changing it up.

https://www.periscope.tv/ZooportRiotGear/1ypKdnmBykLJW

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1BdGYXRejaAKX (https://www.periscope.tv/w/1BdGYXRejaAKX)

we NEED "PERFECT CRIME!"

https://www.periscope.tv/shoezanne2/1OyJAlNeNdzGb

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1PlKQjXVYQMGE

Simply amazing show! Wow... Just wow wow! Coma was out of this world!

https://www.periscope.tv/scottieb58/1vOxwPAaqlqKB

https://www.periscope.tv/markymark69/1zqKVprEqqLJB

https://www.periscope.tv/scottieb58/1vOxwPAaqlqKB

Damn paradise city is fast as fuck

Yeah it is. Probably trying to not break curfew lol.

Awesome show to follow along from home!!!  Coool to see the ending!!  If you are down in the PIT you really can only HEAR the fireworks...you can't see them

https://twitter.com/Ode2Sheep/status/748382061828915200 (https://twitter.com/Ode2Sheep/status/748382061828915200)

Goodnight!

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I see Tommy was in attendance tonight.

Review of the show last night: http://www.kansascity.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/back-to-rockville/article86820582.html

Awesome picture

25,000 people?

Can that be right?

Set list?  Any alts?

Ticketmaster had it as almost sold out and then they closed off the upper deck anyway ... So not sure what happened there ...

Strange indeed.

Days ago there were clusters of seats available in all sections of the stadium, upper deck as well. But each bowl was at the least 85-90% sold, and with the amount of seats displayed as sold in the upper deck there weren't nearly enough empty seats in the lower bowls and field to accommodate for all those upper-deck people.

I'm not sure those Ticketmaster maps are accurate.

When I read loose language like "or so" which followed 25,000 people I usually don't hold much weight in it.

Some songs were played really really fast...hope this is a way to cut show short due to curfew....but why not start 1hour earlier then? ???

tommy stinson
great to see me ol' pals last nite in KC! i am so grateful for the time i had playin with these gents.!!! thanx to all the fans that bought me drinks last nite!

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The General... ;)

as for the crowd, all the official stats will appear on Billboard or Pollstar. Let LiveNation worry about what venues to put them in.

I wanna see a guest appearance from Tommy sometime soon. He was of the most important members during his time in the band. I mean there was a similar situatiom with Duff in London 2010, right?

Ticketmaster has been doing a lot of resale tickets, just check their website. On top of that if you check StubHub or any other scalpers site you're gonna find plenty of tickets for all the shows.

I wouldn't expect the Atlanta show to get more than 25,000 to 35,000.

I think that's a underestimated guesstimation.

Filled to the brim, for concert setup, the place holds roughly 57k (because Kenny Chesney set the record for a concert there at 57,300-ish).

If you close the uppers, you lose about 15k, maybe slightly less, in that stadium.  That drops you to 42k ish.   For attendance to "only" be 25k, the place would have had to have looked half empty.  Did it look half empty to anyone last night?

I'm guessing attendance was more like 35k+ and the writer was just taking a stab.

"Here is footage of them last week playing at FedEx Field which for some reason looks a lot like The Troubadour in Hollywood and not at all like a giant fucking football stadium. Stay tuned for more news."

Firstly, judging by the photos, it looks like you're losing more than 15,000.  Secondly, it wasn't just the uppers that were closed.  That entire back section behind the stage was also closed, top to bottom.  Flip back a few pages, those photos DO make the place look half-empty if you really look.  During the show photo, the empty sections are not lit at all, so it's easy to miss how many sections are really closed.  Based on the photos, I can believe that only 25,000 fans were there.  But that's still a lot.  I personally never expected every single show to produce 40,000 fans.  I think it's going to fluctuate more than people think.

The upper deck is roughly 20k capacity for football. Thats not a guess, its whats listed. You lose about 1/4 of those seats "behind the stage". Thats about 15k. 57-15=42.

Closing the seats behind the stage is normal for a concert setup. Was the same for Chesney's show. Most stadium shows in the states do this, thus why capacity is 57k and not 74k (which is what it is for football games).

Again, if it were 25k, about half the open and available seats would have to be empty. Did it look that way to you? Did you see roughly 17k open seats, not including upoer deck and behind stage? I don't think i do....

I think sub 30,000 in a major city is disappointing.

It would likely still be a money maker for everyone involved.

And for a mid western town, on a wednesday night, in late june?  Not too shabby, imho, even if it were 28k or so (and i don't think it is).  Its still WAY too big a show to do in an arena.

Another great review!
http://www.pitch.com/music/blog/20826965/guns-n-roses-gave-fans-everything-they-wanted-last-night-at-arrowhead-stadium

On a Wednesday night? No, it's not a bad number. Keep in mind that doing stadiums isn't just to fill them but rather they need a place big enough for that type of set up and big enough to handle a crowd that an arena otherwise couldn't with that set up.

That said, check out @arrowheadevents on Twitter at some of the pics and it looks like there was probably more than 25k there.

I was there in person last night, and I'd say it was 25,000. There were scattered open seats by my friend and I all over our section C, and open seats in the stands. I wouldn't call it a disappointment though, GNR have played KC 3 times since Nov 2011. It was an awesome show and I'm thankful I went, and I drove 5 and a half hours to get there. Fans are just going to have to regret not going.

Also keep in mind that Kansas City is a relatively small market. The city proper may be "big city," but the 14 county MSA is just over 2 million. That's a small market. Detroit is a 5 million plus MSA and that's just 3 counties,not including all over lower Michigan which is within a 2-3 hour drive. In addition, KC is an isolated MSA. Remember, most arenas hold 10,000 to 20,000 people and a lot of big, classic bands do t always sell out every arena, especially smaller markets. Again, if this were an arena tour they would have quickly and easily sold out in every market !
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_City_metropolitan_area


Also- Pittsburg's MSA is simply too small and too close to Philly, Cincinnati
In addition, I think they could have eliminated one of those shows- central Indiana will go to Chicago, and most of the population in Pensylvania is clustered on the east side of the state neat Philly, so most Pennsylvania fans are going to Philly. If you head west of Pittsburg, those people would be drawn to Concinnatti or even Detroit. To top it off, if you go south east of Pittsburgh you're getting really close to Landover show. Many would simply go to the Washington DC/Landover concert. Simply put, too many stadium shows spread too thin in too many markets.
Take out the Pittsburg and KC shows, and all are selling well.

I agree with this wholeheartedly, as a guy that lives here.

So you understand first hand. I lived in the Columbus area at one point, so understand a little. Pittsburg is unique. It's not really a gritty midwestern rust belt city, however, it's not really an old east coast city either. It has its own "feel" and vibe. Although, I do wonder about the Cleveland market. I think the planners were assuming that the Pittsburgh show would pull heavily from the Cleveland market, which is pretty big and a reasonable assumption. I wonder if they do some more marketing up in Cleveland at the rock stations there if they would push some more tickets. I would be curious as to your thoughts about Cleveland, D-GenerationX. Or, a lot of Cleveland fans identify more with the grittiness of Detroit and wanted to be at the "first show."??? IDK.

Ideally, the concert promoters would have had one big blow out in Cincinnati and scrapped Nashville and Pittsburgh. Then scrapped Kansas City and Glendale and just had a big blow out in Denver (Glendale is simply too close to San Diego and LA, too much competition). That would have been more strategic. Also, scrapping Nashville would have been better for the Atlanta market. Atlanta's MSA is pretty comparable to Detroit (5 million) and will pull from even further out.

The General Rulez !!!

 :beer:

I know Duff is the original and archetypal GNR bassist (Ole, sorry dude!) and I really like what he did in GNR, VR and during his solo career.
but I've also always loved Tommy in GNR and he always was the archetypal NewGNR bassist. can't say much about his solo stuff, I never was a Replacements fan and maybe only Motivation is a catchy tune.
hard to say. I'd love to see Tommy doing a guest appearance with GNR. Duff could have a guitar for the time.
both of these guys are just class acts.
do you remember those times?
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Great Memories

 :love:

I never got over the fact that Tommy said he didn't even like GNR music ...

The former King of Beers is my guy.

Very cool to see him pop up as a fan doe.

In 05 U2 played arrowhead 23000 attended that gig mind u they played soldier field 3x for 160 plus i expect well ove 100 in chicago ny and la and ne evan tom brady maybe

Folks, it the weekend before the 4th, a Wednesday and in KC. I was there and it was great!! Lower and 2nd bowl were full (minus behind stage). People are whining about GNR pulling in 25k, with no new album, in 2016? Give me a break. Enjoy the tour, the boys are back, very fun times. 

I'm still pretty convinced 25k is a little low on the estimate side.  Especially now that info is trickling in that Fed ex and Ford Field were 40/41k ish (Trunk, USA Today, and other reputable places). I'm still thinking we're somewhere more like the low to mid 30's.

Guess we'll just have to see if a more official report comes out.....

thank you.....my show in Atlanta is on a Wed so I don't expect much more than that. I also don't care! Gonna be awesome.

A little tribal knowledge to address your point about Glendale and SD/LA; having driven from CA to AZ several dozen times, I really can't see people driving that far to see a show. It's basically a 5 hour drive one way (not counting LA traffic if you choose that show) and unless you bought your Southwest ticket a month ago, flying is out. Both shows are on a Monday so that could cut both ways--I guess you could head out Sunday or Monday and drive back Tuesday perhaps? Airbnb to keep the price down? How many people would take one or two days off work to see a show I wonder. As to LA/SD fans, from San Diego to LA on a Monday it will take you again, literally 5 hours. No joke. Maybe more. Getting through downtown LA is a nightmare. There's a reason Axl sang "this traffic is hell" in Bad Apples. You'd have to take off early from work, say around 2p and tailgate or get dinner around the stadium to make it work and don't forget you'll be hanging around the parking lot afterwards for a while as it empties. All that and then you get to drive back to SD (luckily it will be 1a so no traffic--yay!)

In short, LA fans may have traveled to SD--there's less people and the train will drop you pretty close to Qualcomm and it's a short trolley ride from there, but SD fans will most likely not to attempt to get to LA. And interstate travel is probably not very likely either.

I understand that if pushed, many, many people would brave the traffic and again, burn a precious vacation day to see this act if it was one night only in one location. But I think they were very smart in choosing these three locations IMO. That being said, I do wonder if they can pack Dodger stadium two nights in a row. I sure hope so! :)

   

Another wonderful show. I'm not even sure we deserve this.

No way, man, the Georgia Dome is gonna be freaking packed. I'm hitting that show as well, coming in from out of town. This will be the first time the boys have played there since the late 80s as I recall (not counting the post-Slash incarnation of the band). Plus, Atlanta is a concert town! That's my two cents anyway.

The lower and middle decks seemed pretty packed to me. I think around 30,000 is a good guesstimate. It was a good crowd given the price of the tickets and that it was a Wednesday night. They would have gotten more casual fans if it was a weekend and the tickets were cheaper.

When GNR played KC in 2011, I'm pretty sure they closed off the upper deck of the Sprint Center. When they played the Midland in 2013 (3,600 seat capacity), they didn't sell out. I'm just happy they chose KC rather than skipping over it. Awesome show.