Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Guns N' Roses

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June 23rd-August 22nd

The unlikely reunion of Axl Rose and classic-era Guns N' Roses members Slash and bassist Duff McKagan after decades of public acrimony and bitter swipes in the press still seems impossible. And yet they played their first dates together for the first time since 1993 in April, many of which found Rose seated on Dave Grohl's "rock throne," and they have set two months' worth of stadium gigs that will run from June to August this summer, with support coming variously from Alice in Chains and Lenny Kravitz. Even weirder is how the dates will commence after Rose returns from a European run fronting AC/DC. But the most stunning fact remains that the reunion has appeared to be working so far, even if none of the band members have spoken about it explicitly. They've dubbed their trek the "Not in This Lifetime ... Tour," so maybe it's best not to question why it's all going so well.


AC/DC

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Through June 12th

"Nice to meet you!" Axl Rose told 50,000 AC/DC fans in Lisbon during his first show singing with the band. And it does feel like we're meeting a new guy. After years of reclusive behavior, Axl is fronting not one but two of the biggest tours of the summer: AC/DC (while singer Brian Johnson is out of commission) and, later, a reunited Guns N' Roses. "I'm hoping to make it through the first show before I get fired," Rose joked. He did, adding new menace to hits like "Back in Black." Here's hoping the punishing schedule won't cause him to blow out his voice ahead of GN'R's stadium run.



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No surprise these are on the list though... :)

Great article except for the blowing out his voice jab. He is not doing 8 shows a week like Broadway singers. He has 3-4 days off between shows on the AC/Dc gigs.

Axl is KING

That's not a jab imo.

You are entitled to your opinion. It just came off as a bit snarky to me.
Kind of like when Peter Dinklage's mother told him to not be disappointed if he didn't win the EMMY for his permformance in GOT Season 1. He won BTW.

They're hoping his tight schedule won't do damage to his voice before he embarks on the GN'R trek... don't we all?

As I have stated previously AXL is a trained professional and he knows what he is doing Let's all have a little faith and let him enjoy this totally awesome career renaissance.
We  have a  saying where I work as to not try and set people up to fail.

I don't believe he will do any damage to his voice, and is in complete control.

I just see that remark by Rolling Stone as a positive one. They're listing the GN'R tour as one of the hottest ones of the summer after all.

It is one of the hottest tours of the summer. Say why not celebrate the triumph without saying might  blow out his voice. Just my .02. I think AC/DC really inspired Axl in his younger days and without Ac/Dc there would be no GNR.
Axl is back in black and black don't crack. :smoking:

They're not saying *it will blow out his voice*.

I just see it as a way of saying Axl's got a tight schedule this summer and we want Axl in top form for the GN'R shows. It's a remark on the schedule, not Axl as performer.

Personally I don't think this will be a problem, but I understand their viewpoint.

We can agree to disagree. : ok:

More promotion for the tour.  ;D




/jarmo

This Summer is shaping up to be the Summer of Axl. Leading GNR and AC/DC in one summer is epic. Glad to read all the great feedback in the press and from the fans.

This is not a shot... BUT wasn't he a trained professional when he blew his voice out during the first Hammerstein show in 2006 and almost had to cancel at least the following date?

Moving on... I can't believe what has happened over the past few months and what is in store for us over the next several... I honestly never thought I'd see this. While I was happy to see Axl and his hired hands 2016 is really unlike anything we have seen since the 90s'

Imagine (I'm definitely getting ahead of myself here) Axl releasing new albums with both AC/DC and GN'R..

Oh for fuck's sake!

Here we go again, putting down something in GN'R history in order to try to prove a point.
Yet, I'm the bad guy for pointing it out.

And don't start whining about how I'm "derailing" the thread again.
You're the ones with the analogies. You must be aware of exactly what you're doing and what the end game will be. Still you keep doing the same shit.

When will you learn?

I'm losing patience with some of you.
Just a head's up. :)


Edited to add: I guess I'll have to start moderating certain posts more from now on until some people learn the difference between being supportive and trolling for attention. :)



/jarmo

Angus writes all their shit anyway.  I think in one of these articles, I read that Brian hadn't really written anything since the 80s.

So, its not like the loss of him would be a real blow to the process.

I think the bigger question would be, if Angus and Axl sat down to write something, would it still come out like every other AC/DC song?

Sorry if the analogies crossed a line... You have to admit though the global 'buy in' of the Reunion/Reformation/whatever you want to call it along with the excitement and largely positive wide scale press of Axl fronting AC/DC is something we haven't seen in decades. It's not just the change in lineup, it's the use of social media, it's the whole ground swell that happened in LA prior to the Troubadour show. It feels like the early 90's again with them in the music press on a nearly daily basis (which we owe huge thanks to TB). 02, 06, 08-09 weren't like this... and that isn't meant as a put down. Those lineups gave their all, they kept the train rolling in this direction... Richard and Frank are representing those lineups by killing it every time they have shared the stage with Slash and Duff.

I hate trying to link sports and music, but I see it as a logical comparison... It is very hard to talk about the Boston Red Sox 2004 World Series Championship and what it meant to their fan base without talking about the 86 years without a championship... but that is not meant as a slight to the amazing teams and players that fell short in 46' 67' 76' and 86'... but you can't ignore that the Yankees were ripping off dozens of championships in that same window. The popular support this band is finally getting feels nice... it's a really different feeling.

I was thinking more of the publicity storm Axl would be in if that happened, with the current situation in mind.

But yeah, I've seen AC/DC fans being positive to Axl being involved in the writing process would they decide on recording something together. I guess the fans would welcome the change, given Angus probably has used a certain formula for years (God knows it works though).

I don't know, has Angus ever written anything without Malcolm?  Isn't he responsible for just about all their main riffs?  

I know Malcolm has writing credits on Rock Or Bust, but not sure how involved he was putting the songs together. Could have been old riffs written by him, taken from the vault.

Hmm, that is a good point.

I kind of think AC/DC is just a legacy touring act at this stage.  Probably have been for a little while now, really.

Would they have moved one less ticket on the past 2 tours if 'Black Ice' or 'Rock Or Bust' never happened?  Probably not.  You are buying tickets for 'Highway To Hell' and 'Thunderstruck'.

They would most likely have sold out those shows regardless.

But I checked out the stats for Rock Or Bust, and it actually went to #1 in 13 countries and #3 on the Billboard chart. People are definitely still buying their music, the interest is there.

I think somebody might have said this already...but most or the lyrics Axl has come up with post Illusions are really all... they come from some kind of pain or difficult experience...

Not exactly AC DC type stuff....

No worries. It's exciting times for sure.

I just don't get the need some have to constantly use that as an excuse to shit on whatever happened between now and _____ (insert date).
It's becoming tiring to see some do the same thing over and over again.

It's not respectful to the band or some of their fans.

So in order to keep that kind of back and forth to a minimum, I would advice anyone to show some respect to the band's history. No matter what personal preferences you might have. That's all. Thanks.




/jarmo

Plus how many posts were there on this very board a year or two ago how repetitive AC DC music was and there is no growth from record to record...


Now we are all for it huh?

Two different kinds of subject matter it seems....



/jarmo

Definitely.

I am loving the performances...but the thought of ACDC turning out a new record with Axl Rose in like a year makes me sick to my stomach as a GNR fan.  :hihi:

Yeah, not a bad point.

AC/DC really isn't so much about the inner turmoil.  Could be something of a clash of styles.

No baggage though.  That might have some appeal to him.

Nothing that's been sitting in his vault for years.  Nothing he would need clearance from the 5 or however many people are on a track that are long out of the fold.

Just sit down, crank out 10 rockers, and off you go.

I would love to know if there's any chance of GNR releasing new music...if the door is open at least....

I imagine we will be able to tell after this tour.

Say the whole tour comes and goes.  There never is any real interaction onstage.  There never is any press.  There never is any talk from even one of them on their own about anything further...then we can probably chalk this up to a business arrangement for a lucrative tour, and nothing else.

Which I am fine with.  They still will have done more than right by their fans with just the tour, in my opinion.

The Boss's ANGUS YOUNG & AXL ROSE

 :hihi:

Been thinking about this post since you typed it earlier today.

I think I file it strictly in the "better than nothing" category.

Fact is, we don't have a hell of a lot of official material with Axl Rose vocals on there.  This is far from my first choice, but would I take 10 likely pretty paint by numbers AC/DC songs, but with Axl at the helm?  If my alternative is nothing else? 

Yeah, bring it on.

This forum is fucked. I?m outta here.
Enjoy your fascist site.

i think with guns he would hold the lyrics to a different standard. not a higher standard, but a different set of standards. like theyd hafta be more meaningful to him and all that. i bet he could still write about typical r and r stuff pretty easily if thats what angus wanted. probably he could churn them out like nothing. i bet theyd be great and have all kinds of cool word play and stuff going on too.

im with dx on the better than nothing front. they wouldnt be guns songs, but i bet theyd be damn good acdc songs.

another guns record, on the other hand, would be a huge event for me in my own personal life. id find an extra special way to celebrate it.

Bye-bye  :-*

dun-dun-dun Another one bites the dust....

In a way it's kinda cool RS managed to mention a tour that's not taking place in the US at all. The AC/DC & Axl tour is Europe only (for now) and still got mentioned.  : ok:

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This is kinda funny.
My post wasn't aimed at any particular one person, only a certain behavior which seems to prevail among some.
Which obviously is both disrespectful and creates unnecessary bickering. So in order to have a more fun atmosphere, I decided to make my point.

In these times of excitement, there's no real need for anyone to constantly feel the need to put down the past in order to make themselves feel better. That's the point.

Thanks, I will. :)




/jarmo

Being a GN'R fan is very much like being a Star Wars fan. The irony is the worst part about being a fan is having to tolerate the "fans".


C'est La Vie.

Guns has an entire globe they can soak money out of before new music really needs to be considered. I'm unsure of where AC/DC is in their trek this time out. Part of me thinks the reason Axl has taken this all on is so he doesn't have to release anything anytime soon if ever again, given the track record.

I appreciate the post about trying to make the site more positive and upbeat, and how it's fair to respect band members past and present, so does that mean we wont have any more 'I hope Steven Adler doesn't return' style threads then?
It can't just be I like this particular band member so don't say anything negative about them, however this particular one say what you like.

Preferring one guy to another is kinda normal. Or one album to another.

But you can still be respectful about it.




/jarmo

Jarmo, do you think you are maybe a bit more sensitive and overprotective of the latter half of the CD era because you got to know those guys?

That post from siraddam about Steven Adler got me thinking.  Because we did have several entire threads that were pretty anti-Steven.  And they were allowed to flourish here in the big room, sometimes for an entire week or more.  An entire week or more of some pretty negative stuff.

But if even the odd disparaging post is made about the 2009-2014 incarnation, you pounce like a puma.  Forget an entire thread about them being permitted to prosper, you outright scrub any single post about them you don't like.

Is that why?  Because you know them?

Maybe, maybe not.

All I know is that Steven Adler hasn't been in GN'R since 1990. And considering his history, I can see why some fans are hesitant to just let the past be the past etc.
I get it. Doesn't mean you gotta be disrespectful though.
But the thing seems to be that people pick sides. If you want him in the band, you can't like Frank. And vice versa. These disagreements tend to lead to people defending their guy and it can get ugly... Unfortunately.


Regarding the negative comments about what happened between 1996 and 2015, well same thing there. Show some respect. I know that some of you probably went along with the ride for years, feeling upset that the old band wasn't together anymore. I get it.

But there were many of us who weren't. We enjoyed GN'R as they were. And there's really no need for some of you to try to disrespect those line ups or belittle those fans who did enjoy that era, just because you got what you were hoping for for about 20 years.....

Most of us are happy today, excited even. That's all that matters.



/jarmo

Fair enough.  I see that side of it.

Being a trained professional doesn't make you superhuman. Just ask that zookeeper who, even though her professional specialty was working with tigers, got mauled and killed by a tiger last month.