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Title: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Voodoochild on April 21, 2016, 02:14:35 PM
Seems like MTV wants to talk about music again. One of their plans is to bring back the Unplugged show, now looking for other over-the-top plataforms:

http://mashable.com/2016/04/21/mtv-unplugged-returning/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link#7J46ZcLpOiq3

I know the band played several songs unplugged back in the 90s, but it wasn't really stripped down versions (save for KOHD) and in the surprise club gigs in 2006 and 2010. But still, this would be a more "official" unplugged with maybe rearranged songs.

Would you want the band to do that sometime in the future?


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Spirit on April 21, 2016, 02:18:05 PM
Very much so!  :D

Not like the Bridge School acoustic versions though, but rather some re-arrangement specially for an acoustic performance.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Princess Leia on April 21, 2016, 02:31:42 PM
Well good for MTV if they want to be about music again. A GN'R unplugged wold be great. Headbangers show would be even better

 ;D


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: D-GenerationX on April 21, 2016, 02:32:41 PM
No.  Bridge School freaked me out.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Voodoochild on April 21, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
Bridge School is from another life. I honestly didnt even remember it. :P


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Bridge on April 21, 2016, 03:10:01 PM
Not really.  I'm one of those who doesn't prefer unplugged versions of songs like GNR's.  The stuff on GNR Lies was great because it sounded like that's the manner those songs should've been recorded.  But trying to perform "Welcome to the Jungle" unplugged doesn't do it for me.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: D-GenerationX on April 21, 2016, 03:16:28 PM

Not really.  I'm one of those who doesn't prefer unplugged versions of songs like GNR's.  The stuff on GNR Lies was great because it sounded like that's the manner those songs should've been recorded.  But trying to perform "Welcome to the Jungle" unplugged doesn't do it for me.


I agree, in principle.

But then again, I liked that acoustic 'Mr. Brownstone' and 'Move To The City' from CBGB's back in the day.

And their version of 'Dead Flowers' was great.  Much prefer it to the Stones version.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Thorned Rose on April 21, 2016, 03:41:49 PM
Yeah. MTV which stands for Meathead Television now....

Has lost it's way a long long time ago.

I'd love a sit down, chilled short chats in between songs. So a 14-16 song set... not every song would work in this setting. Paradise City might actually work slowed down lol.. Jungle would not.

I think a slowed down re-arranged "Civil War" would give me goosebumps.

A lot of the songs would have to be re-arranged I think, but I'd enjoy it. Dead Flowers, Patience obviously would be in there I think. November Rain too. Would be killer.

Do a live broadcast of it, release it on CD/DVD combo for 20 bucks and watch it fly off the shelves.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Spirit on April 21, 2016, 03:42:58 PM
Not really.  I'm one of those who doesn't prefer unplugged versions of songs like GNR's.  The stuff on GNR Lies was great because it sounded like that's the manner those songs should've been recorded.  But trying to perform "Welcome to the Jungle" unplugged doesn't do it for me.

It sounds "strange" if they do the songs the same way they usually do, only on acoustic guitars.

If they do re-arrangements to sort of re-make the song as an acoustic, I think there could be some really interesting things.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Princess Leia on April 21, 2016, 04:03:46 PM
Yeah. MTV which stands for Meathead Television now....

Has lost it's way a long long time ago.

I'd love a sit down, chilled short chats in between songs. So a 14-16 song set... not every song would work in this setting. Paradise City might actually work slowed down lol.. Jungle would not.

I think a slowed down re-arranged "Civil War" would give me goosebumps.

A lot of the songs would have to be re-arranged I think, but I'd enjoy it. Dead Flowers, Patience obviously would be in there I think. November Rain too. Would be killer.

Do a live broadcast of it, release it on CD/DVD combo for 20 bucks and watch it fly off the shelves.


I heard the Slash and Myles Kennedy versi?n of Civil War. Myles didn't do any justice to the song. But maybe now Slash, Duff and Axl can make  the proper re-arrangements and it could sound really good


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Voodoochild on April 21, 2016, 05:08:06 PM
Not really.  I'm one of those who doesn't prefer unplugged versions of songs like GNR's.  The stuff on GNR Lies was great because it sounded like that's the manner those songs should've been recorded.  But trying to perform "Welcome to the Jungle" unplugged doesn't do it for me.
They have plenty, there's no need to perform songs that wouldn't fit.

To me, the setlist choice was crucial in both Alice in Chains and Nirvana Unplugged albums. They didn't try to push too hard to just play the same songs just with accoustic guitars. It was actually well thought.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Virolec on April 21, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
I'd like to see an acoustic set of their bluesier numbers (14 Years, etc.), and a load of old bluesy covers from bands like the Flamin' Groovies and the Stones. 


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: SkeletorSerpent on April 21, 2016, 08:48:36 PM
Yes! Stripped down with acoustic and piano. Axl uses his deeper register. Use his smoother, honey with a fleck of dirt in it croon/voice. Subtle rasp, a little gravelly scratchy rasp, but not too much.

Wild Horses (Stones)
Tennessee Whiskey (David Allan Coe/George Jones)
A Good Year for the Roses (George Jones/Elvis Costello)
Honky Tonk Women (Stones)
You Ain't the First
Used to Love Her
You're Crazy
Dust N Bones
14 Years
Dead Flowers (Stones)
Mother/Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)
Only Women Bleed (Alice Cooper)
It's Alright (Sabbath)
Madagascar
Sailing (Rod Stewart)
Patience




Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Thorned Rose on April 22, 2016, 10:45:08 AM
Yeah. MTV which stands for Meathead Television now....

Has lost it's way a long long time ago.

I'd love a sit down, chilled short chats in between songs. So a 14-16 song set... not every song would work in this setting. Paradise City might actually work slowed down lol.. Jungle would not.

I think a slowed down re-arranged "Civil War" would give me goosebumps.

A lot of the songs would have to be re-arranged I think, but I'd enjoy it. Dead Flowers, Patience obviously would be in there I think. November Rain too. Would be killer.

Do a live broadcast of it, release it on CD/DVD combo for 20 bucks and watch it fly off the shelves.


I heard the Slash and Myles Kennedy versi?n of Civil War. Myles didn't do any justice to the song. But maybe now Slash, Duff and Axl can make  the proper re-arrangements and it could sound really good

Yeah Myles is a good singer, but he sings 1 style really well. Overall I don't care for him.

LIke after 4-5 songs I get kinda tired of his voice. With Axl I never get tired.

I bet Civil War acoustic with Axl would kill man.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Voodoochild on April 22, 2016, 11:18:39 AM
Yes! Stripped down with acoustic and piano. Axl uses his deeper register. Use his smoother, honey with a fleck of dirt in it croon/voice. Subtle rasp, a little gravelly scratchy rasp, but not too much.

Wild Horses (Stones)
Tennessee Whiskey (David Allan Coe/George Jones)
A Good Year for the Roses (George Jones/Elvis Costello)
Honky Tonk Women (Stones)
You Ain't the First
Used to Love Her
You're Crazy
Dust N Bones
14 Years
Dead Flowers (Stones)
Mother/Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)
Only Women Bleed (Alice Cooper)
It's Alright (Sabbath)
Madagascar
Sailing (Rod Stewart)
Patience



Great setlist, but a bit too heavy on covers.

I think most of CD ballads would work well enough unplugged. Catcher and TWAT would sound just fine.

From the old ones, Id like to see them trying stuff like Breakdown and even rearrange b-sides like Think About You - imagine what they did with You're Crazy. Or maybe bring back unreleased stuff like Ain't Going Down and even Crash Diet (always loved the song).


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Sosso on April 22, 2016, 02:18:01 PM
Another acoustic gig would be cool - but they don't need MTV to do it.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Voodoochild on April 22, 2016, 02:31:21 PM
Another acoustic gig would be cool - but they don't need MTV to do it.
No they dont. But it could be cool because we would get the broadcast. :)

And if MTV really wants to be about music again, they should totally try to work on it.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: ITARocker on April 23, 2016, 04:49:02 AM
Used To lover Her
Brownstone
You're crazy
Catcher in the rye
Don't cry
Patience
You ain't the first
One in a Million


Covers:

Where did you sleep last night =)
Chocolate Jesus
Don't let it bring you down
The Seeker


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Goddamn_Electric on June 05, 2016, 06:02:36 PM
Mr Brownstone
You're Crazy
Rocket Queen (this could be really good acoustic)
Patience
Used to Love Her
One in a Million
Don't Cry
Dust N Bones
November Rain
Civil War
14 Years
Yesterdays
Knocking on heavens Door
Breakdown
Estranged
Dead Flowers
Sorry
Street of Dreams


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: TheBaconman on July 27, 2016, 01:53:02 PM
Yes! Stripped down with acoustic and piano. Axl uses his deeper register. Use his smoother, honey with a fleck of dirt in it croon/voice. Subtle rasp, a little gravelly scratchy rasp, but not too much.

Wild Horses (Stones)
Tennessee Whiskey (David Allan Coe/George Jones)
A Good Year for the Roses (George Jones/Elvis Costello)
Honky Tonk Women (Stones)
You Ain't the First
Used to Love Her
You're Crazy
Dust N Bones
14 Years
Dead Flowers (Stones)
Mother/Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)
Only Women Bleed (Alice Cooper)
It's Alright (Sabbath)
Madagascar
Sailing (Rod Stewart)
Patience




You would go to a guns n roses show and actually like them to perform 50% of the set list as covers?  This sounds horrible to me


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: C0ma on July 27, 2016, 05:41:46 PM
Yes! Stripped down with acoustic and piano. Axl uses his deeper register. Use his smoother, honey with a fleck of dirt in it croon/voice. Subtle rasp, a little gravelly scratchy rasp, but not too much.

Wild Horses (Stones)
Tennessee Whiskey (David Allan Coe/George Jones)
A Good Year for the Roses (George Jones/Elvis Costello)
Honky Tonk Women (Stones)
You Ain't the First
Used to Love Her
You're Crazy
Dust N Bones
14 Years
Dead Flowers (Stones)
Mother/Wish You Were Here (Pink Floyd)
Only Women Bleed (Alice Cooper)
It's Alright (Sabbath)
Madagascar
Sailing (Rod Stewart)
Patience
You would go to a guns n roses show and actually like them to perform 50% of the set list as covers?  This sounds horrible to me

Ya... I don't understand this obsession with replaying all these illusion era little intro licks. Especially ones that were never really sung like Only Women Bleed and Mother... why not add Beautiful by Christina Aguilera (kidding of course)...


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Princess Leia on July 29, 2016, 03:28:33 AM
I'm afraid it's all reruns of old shows.  :(

By Radio.com Staff

(RADIO.COM) ? VH1 Classic will switch to MTV Classic on August 1st. The new format will focus on the 90s with programs that left a mark on million of millennials, like Beavis and Butthead, Daria, Pimp My Ride, Punk?d, Jackass and MTV Unplugged.

According to a released from the network, the rebrand takes effect on Monday, August 1 ? 35 years to the day that MTV first debuted ? at 6:00 a.m. when MTV Classic will air ?MTV Hour One,? MTV?s first hour of programming from 1981.

Following MTV?s first hour ever, fans will tune into a ?Total Request Live? retrospective ?The TRL Decade,? followed by a marathon of some of the most memorable episodes of ?MTV Unplugged? ?many of which haven?t aired in years?including artists Bob Dylan, Alice In Chains, Erykah Badu, Oasis, Neil Young, Nirvana and more, that will lead into a primetime animated programming block including ?Daria,? ?Beavis & Butt-head? and ?Aeon Flux.? ?MTV Hour One? will also air on MTV?s Facebook page via Facebook Live.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Voodoochild on July 29, 2016, 08:56:49 AM
Well, still better than the current shows. ?\_(ツ)_/? 

Also, the Alice in Chains MTV Unplugged is the best and it deserves to be seen.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Princess Leia on July 29, 2016, 10:40:40 AM
Well, still better than the current shows. ?\_(ツ)_/? 

Also, the Alice in Chains MTV Unplugged is the best and it deserves to be seen.

I haven't watched MTV in ages. But I rember the days of TRL and MTV Unplugged. I don't care about reruns. However if I have to pick reruns I'd rather watch Headbangers and Rockumentaries.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: TheBaconman on July 29, 2016, 11:57:26 AM
Well, still better than the current shows. ?\_(ツ)_/? 

Also, the Alice in Chains MTV Unplugged is the best and it deserves to be seen.

I haven't watched MTV in ages. But I rember the days of TRL and MTV Unplugged. I don't care about reruns. However if I have to pick reruns I'd rather watch Headbangers and Rockumentaries.

Here in Canada the music station is called Much Music

I remember the days when the request show took actual letters sent in the mail.  Then it was faxs, then emails, then the show just vanished....

I sent a few letters in the mail back in the day.   Todays youth is just spoiled with the internet


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Princess Leia on July 29, 2016, 02:32:30 PM
I'm not so sure the problem is technology or the youth. Most likely the industry itself. There's been many changes for the worst. Today we have Universal, Warner and Sonny. They owned all the other record labels like Geffen, Polygram, EMI, etc The conglomarates are run by business men who are about profit and nothing more. They came from Harvard not from the entertainment world


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: TheBaconman on July 30, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
I'm not so sure the problem is technology or the youth. Most likely the industry itself. There's been many changes for the worst. Today we have Universal, Warner and Sonny. They owned all the other record labels like Geffen, Polygram, EMI, etc The conglomarates are run by business men who are about profit and nothing more. They came from Harvard not from the entertainment world

Every mall here used to have 2-3 music stores.

Now your are lucky to get one.  And it's mostly a dvd store

I remember when you could actually pre listen to a album at the store prior to buying it

I used to listen to the import version of guns live album because it had coma in it but the store wanted 60 bucks for it and I was in college.   Lol. Dean I listened to that thing for hours


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Princess Leia on July 30, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
I'm not so sure the problem is technology or the youth. Most likely the industry itself. There's been many changes for the worst. Today we have Universal, Warner and Sonny. They owned all the other record labels like Geffen, Polygram, EMI, etc The conglomarates are run by business men who are about profit and nothing more. They came from Harvard not from the entertainment world

Every mall here used to have 2-3 music stores.

Now your are lucky to get one.  And it's mostly a dvd store

I remember when you could actually pre listen to a album at the store prior to buying it

I used to listen to the import version of guns live album because it had coma in it but the store wanted 60 bucks for it and I was in college.   Lol. Dean I listened to that thing for hours

Oh I get you now. You miss the record stores. Well maybe not many of them in malls. But in the U.S. there is Best Buy. I don't know if somebody would want to give a second life to Tower Records.

But the issue is that CDs are overpriced (any new release I mean) despite of tecnology like iTunes Spotify or YouTube. And it also depends on the artist. Look at Adele, she is capable to sell albums. I guess the quality of the product also matters.

I think it is about good albums by good artists and realistic price that could mean a come back for record stores.


Title: Re: Would you want a MTV Unplugged?
Post by: Bridge on July 30, 2016, 03:54:44 PM
Every mall here used to have 2-3 music stores.

Now your are lucky to get one.  And it's mostly a dvd store

I remember when you could actually pre listen to a album at the store prior to buying it

Siiiiiiigh.... those were the days.   :-[  Before all the bullshit technology.  Which of course, allegedly makes everything "better".   :P