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GN'R is auctioning off an official, signed drumhead for a Flint, MI benefit, signed by all members of the band:
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The only signatures are by Axl, Slash, Richard, Duff, Frank and Dizzy.

New Autographed GUNS N' ROSES Drumhead Appears To Confirm Lineup Rumors

A brand new GUNS N' ROSES autographed drumhead has been donated by the band to be auctioned off at a benefit concert for the people of Flint, Michigan who were affected by the water contamination crisis. A photo of the drumhead ? which apparently features the signatures of singer Axl Rose, guitarist Slash, bassist Duff McKagan, keyboardist Dizzy Reed, drummer Frank Ferrer and guitarist Richard Fortus ? can be seen below. The concert, which will be held on Tuesday, March 15 at Beast Of Bourbon in Brooklyn, New York, will be headlined by MULE KICK, which features Ferrer alongside Rob Bailey, Rob Clores and Brett Bass.

GUNS N' ROSES has six shows scheduled so far, all in April: two at the Coachella Music And Arts Festival, two in Las Vegas and two in Mexico City. The exact band lineup has yet to be confirmed. A new Twitter account purportedly belonging to former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Izzy Stradlin appeared late last month on the social media site. In one of his tweets, Izzy said that he has "no involvement in the upcoming April 2016 GNR shows." It's been speculated that Stradlin would have some limited involvement ? such as a guest appearance ? at some of the upcoming GUNS N' ROSES reunion concerts, which currently feature Slash, Rose and McKagan.

The rest of the band's lineup for the shows ? and a potential tour later in the year ? remains unclear, although Reed, Fortus and Ferrer are all believed to be involved. Fan speculation around the involvement of original drummer Steven Adler has been heavy, with the bandmembers not sure whether Adler, who has a longer history of drug problems than any of the other members, can hold it together on the road.

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/new-autographed-guns-n-roses-drumhead-appears-to-confirm-lineup-rumors/

I don't think so. Maybe he just wasn't present at that day.

I think and hope he's out.  : ok:

Pitman rules  :smoking:

Maybe his autograph was unintenially cropped out of the photo...Or he's not included..If that is the case, was he ever in, did he get the boot for "the Tweet Incident", or another reason?

That drum kit is so bad ass. The fanboy in me hopes they all signed that at the same time.  :)

Hopefully it goes for a big number for a good cause.

It would appear he was in at some point - he designed the trailer for GN'R that played before Star Wars earlier this year. It's possible that the two separate tweet incidents, the first being sarcastic toward management, and the second attacking the band, the tour and one of the biggest fansites, might have got him the boot.

I do hope so!! His shitty backing vocals ruined many songs live!!

was never a huge deal but im happy hes not involved, no disrespect to him, just makes it closer to a old school rock band

I wish I could get this, im sure it will go for a few thousand, im waiting for the vip packages on tour which appears to include a poster signed by the band, hoping it includes axl

I hope it raises a good few dollars - it's a terrible situation with the water in Flint.  A really good cause.


As for the lineup... a clue, Scooby!  No Chris...

If he is out, I would think the tweets would have been a result of that, rather than the other way around. 

Agreed.  I like him, but I'd like to hear the band more stripped down.  Some Appetite songs just don't need two keyboards!

Maybe he's "Teddy Zig Zag" status this time around rather than an official member?

No idea- but perhaps an alternative...

Fortus and Frank seem to be in, Pitman seems to be out.

Every cloud has a silver lining ?!  : ok:

I was thinking maybe he was out before he sent them then realized it was a mistake.  Other members have left on good terms.

  5 members is good, same number as the original lineup.   I will miss the sub-bass though  :hihi:

It is six members..... ;D

Goose may still be involved behind the scenes.

 

That would be a nice lineup, as many have already stated. But I'd surely miss Pitman too. I guess his absence would mean changes in the live sound.

Whats crazy is if Chris is not on stage... there is really not much of the Chinese Democracy era left after Axl and Dizzy.

I'm so pumped up. After the Appetite 5 plus Matt... this is the best lineup I can come up with. Richard and Frank are going to be great with the big three.

I don't think this bodes well for Chris' inclusion.

I know people will say that until Axl records some proof of life style video that spells it out exactly, they can't say.  Whatever.

We heard that with Ron for what, a year?  And what wound up happening??

it would explain his tweet...and eventually, why he was drunk  :hihi:

Why would you not count Axl and Dizzy as part of the Chinese era? And then with Fortus and Frank, that's 4 out of the 6 members appeared on CD

Well

A. I said AFTER Axl and Dizzy ... and B. to me.. Frank and Richard had little to do with creating those songs.

To me too.  To anyone, really.

Maybe YES... Maybe NOT

Agree.  I think we all can make a (more than) reasonable assumption that Pittman's out.  So, you're telling me no Silkworms???

Well, just to get really cutthroat about it...why take on his salary?

I'm not crazy enough to think he was getting anything resembling an equal share.  But, you gotta pay the guy something.

So you sit down and crunch the numbers.  At some point, don't you have to really question the expense?

Let's hope so !

Enough with the 3 guitars and 500 keyboard players.  It's GNR not ELP !

And before anyone says those extras are necessary for the CD songs, fine, then don't play them !

You better call the band! I think they might not give a shit about what you want.

I certainly admire your moxie.

Oh, and...duck.

An old GNR setlist would be a bit boring in my opinion, and would scream nostalgia all over the place.
It would be great if Slash and Duff liked maybe a few unreleased CDera songs, worked on them and played them live.

What's moxie  ;D ?

All kidding aside, since this isn't a reunion, I wouldn't exactly mind a few CD songs.  I would also welcome more work on unreleased stuff.  I was just being obnoxious.

But you still wouldn't need 3 guitarists and 2 keyboard players for that...

This isn't a reunion???  Did I miss the promo showing people other than classic members???

Well, since Izzy is not involved, good luck with calling this a reunion !

I don't care if Pittman is there or not.

I am glad that it appears to be a two guitar setup...Slash and Fortus is going to be a killer combo ! Sprinkle in Izzy at times ...

I think they'd have to pay someone regardless.  Some songs have synth-produced orchestration that provide sounds that none of the band members' instruments provide, along with playing other random instruments specific to particular songs (e.g., organ, harmonica, additional percussion).  Not talking just CD songs, this was the case with the 90s UYI tour as well, that's what Teddy Andreadis did.  Dizzy can't do all that stuff and play keyboards at the same time.  So they either pay someone or use a backing tape, which would be bush.  

true dat The Animal...

There wasn't a single song they couldn't or didn't do live before Teddy joined (Dec '91), and since then technology has advanced in such a way that Dizzy can easily handle all the electronic stuff on his own.  I don't think we really need harmonica or extra percussion ?  The sight of Dizzy playing bongos on Jungle was ridiculous enough  ;D

It's not a question of if extra instrumentation is 'needed', it's what they want in terms of putting together a show they're happy with.  If they think that role has had a place in their shows the past 25 years, I'm thinking they're going to keep it. 

Frank just shared this article on his FB. We have a confirmation!  :peace:

Yay! A confirmation that he is supporting his former band's activities  :peace:

Nahhhh cmon Emily!

In fact he shared the rumors article posted by livewire...so much for the support mule kick stuff!! :hihi:

Yeah he basically isn't in the tour plans/new lineup/reunion... however you want to slice it up.

I'm fucking glad too. He came out and ran his mouth, and then everyone got all mad about me eating him up on that. Now he's out.

This has cleared the air some. Axl, Slash, Duff, Richard, Frank and Dizzy. Perfect! It's like a UYI era lineup kinda. No 3 guitars (so dumb) and no 2 keyboardists/mother goose who doesn't write any songs...

I respect what little Pitman did for Gn'R, but without him... who is really going to notice that much.

Guns N' Roses will always be singer, lead, rhythm, bass, drums, and a keyboard/pianist

That's it.

I think a distinction should be drawn between Chinese Democracy the album and the "Chinese Democracy-era" (most especially touring 2001-2014). Not a huge amount left (outside of Axl n' Dizzy) of the former perhaps- but plenty (IMHO) still remaining of the latter between Axl, Dizzy, Richard n' Frank (and possibly Chris in one role or another). Also wonder if Brain (still listed as a member on this site anyway) is still in the "GNR Family" too...

Brain is the only newGNR ex-member there? CD remix starts now?

Mule kick is a great bunch of guys, have seen their shows a few times.

It is great GNR is contributing this item to be auctioned off toward benefiting the people of Flint, who have been drinking contaminated water.

No :no:

Not exactly true, GNR has incorporated backup singers, a brass section, and additional musicians over the years and it was still GNR.

GNR determines what GNR consists of, not you.

That's ludicrous. "Hey Frank, you're out of the band and someone else is in. Come sign a drumhead for the band you used to be in".

Frank has confirmed he's in multiple times.

You misunderstood or misread my post completely-- The band that is auctioning off the drumhead is Frank's former band..Mulekick.

Have seen them several times- they put on a good show.

Has anyone thought of the possibility that Pittman made those tweets in response to being fired? Like a disgruntled ex employee. Just a thought.

Then he wouldn't apologize and remove them, or would he ?

I really don't see why they need Dizzy.

Seriously? He plays a huge role in songs they play such as Estranged and Street Of Dreams.

Exactly, I don't see Dizzy going away at all, he is a huge part of all music written and recorded since 1990. As far as Street of Dreams goes, I wonder if we hear any CD era songs if this drum head and the recent tweets point to no Chris? Especially if the loss of Chris comes as a surprise/reaction to something that happened after the speculation that Slash and Duff were rehearsing CD songs.

At least the down times are never dull and without endless speculation.

I love DIzzy. He plays keyboards on Civil War, 14 years etc... several UYI songs.

He wouldn't need to, but he might think better of it when sober.

He had to apologize, cause he knows that maybe in the future Axl would take him in. Maybe he is out for the time being, but who knows later on? Maybe that's what he wondered when he apologized.

He does, his solo on Estranged is one of the best solos ever written period.

I love Dizzy, but give credit where credit is due... He plays an amazing solo live that was written and recorded by Axl. With that said I totally agree with the thought that he is a huge part of the band, the live experience, and Axl's support system.

Thanks to Black Sabbath at mygnr for the heads up!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172145760262

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An autograph drumhead from the full GnR line up 2016.

Axl, Slash, Duff, Dizzy, Richard, Frank

If this is indeed the confirmed lineup for the upcoming tour, then I'm very happy with it  8)

A leaner version of Gn'R but still muscular. Sound-wise I'm thinking of the Skin n' Bones tour, with a more polished edge. Can't wait!

7 thousand dollars is the opening bid on this

So they're not even bothering trying to fake it that regular people have a shot at this.

Seriously, you can buy a whole bad-ass kit for that amount of coin.