Here Today... Gone To Hell!

http://classicrock.teamrock.com/news/2016-02-22/slash-in-studio-for-guns-n-roses

If the confirmation of the reunion/regrouping has taught us anything, it's where there's smoke, there's often fire.  : ok:

That's tremendous news.

Time for CD-lineup to release Chinese Democracy = 15 years
Time for classic lineup to release new album = 15 weeks  :rofl:

Question is, is it entirely new recordings, or Slash laying down guitar over some unreleased Chi Dem era tracks? I'd be just as happy with either, really.

Hmm, what about the songs Richard talked about, originating back to Slash?

Could be. Axl said in the chats, he still had Slash's demos/recordings for what would've been the next 90s era GNR album.  Who knows what he has?

 Sorry but isn't this article already posted? Things that Arlett and Niven said we read it in another threat

Same here.  I'm in total "take what I can get" mode with this band anymore.

Whatever it winds up being, bring it on.  It's all new to me.

It's from the "The Real Story Behind Their Return" article.

That's what I thought. So this article it's just a copy/paste. The news about Slash recording can be found in The Real Story article then

If Slash is recording on Chinese era tracks, it would basically be the album Axl wanted to make in the mid 90s, which is a little ironic.  Ironic, and something I'd LOVE to hear.

It's from the same publisher, so they've concentrated on this specific quote from the original article to make a new one. Hence making a "news item" from their longer piece.

This one is being picked up by other media now, the original full article was not.

Slash, i love you !!!



This is amazing, I would like to hear Down By The Ocean

Why you assume Slash is working on Chinese songs?. It also can be songs that Slash have been working lately by his own or Duff's songs. Then Axl listens that ideas and contribute with his. That's exactly how old Guns work isn't?.. anyway, looking forward!  :beer:

I'm not really assuming anything.  But since we know dick-all about what, if anything, is being worked on I'm just spitballing about what it realistically could be.

Great! I hope it is NON-Cd era stuff, or at least more straight ahead CD stuff.

I know in my heart there's a few really good songs that got dusted away from 1995/96. Bring those back and drop a quick album!?

lol I wish

Great news. Not sure I'm shocked by this news because Slash is now a member of GNR again.

"Meanwhile, Vereecke hints the band will play tracks from 2008's Chinese Democracy along with late-80s and early-90s material when their planned reunion gets underway in April with two Las Vegas shows."

Uhm... What other material would there be to play? What am I missing here? :hihi:

New material I guess.

F&CKING BRING IT! : ok:

Bring what?  As Princess Leia pointed out, this Classic Rock article is copied from another story with quotes by people who supposedly haven't been involved with Slash's career since 2005.

I think it has more to do with the inclusion of CD tracks than anything else... people have wondered what if any songs from CD Slash would play.

I am sure Vicky Hamilton will have some insider information as well she always seems to get involved in GNR rumor mills.

You are probably correct that she will spout some half assed information.

It's funny how the same people you always seem to hear from when it comes to gnr arlette, vicky, eddie trunk, alan niven, im sure  Robert John will be interviewed as well.

Besides the band members and camp itself, who else do we have?

Why do you want to hear made up rumors from people who have had less direct contact with the band over the past 11 or more years than any random fan who attended a GNR show?

The rumor is that CD and Maddy are being rehearsed.  Any one of us who is guessing that CD songs will be played because Dizzy, Chris, Richard and Frank are part of GNR2016 would guess the same songs.

Do you think that Axl has these guys there just to fuck them over?

Why?

there is actually reason to believe and hope for the best these days!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if CD 2 is anything like CD 1... Then I'm probably not going to like it. If Slash is working on something that they had left over from the 87-93 era.... That would get me very interested...

If it's new.... Then wow... Just wow.

Whatever you prefer.... Hope for that! There's no right or wrong but if ever there is a time for hope of anything... Your best chance is now! ;)

I never said that.

The question was why is it always the same people interviewed in the media. I answered that.

I didn't say that I thought these people coming up in every article is something I want. I would definitely rather hear from band members or the management themselves.

One day at a time here.
The good news seems to be that he's comfortable and enjoying himself.  That could lead to good things.

You know what would be tremendous? If Slash had a bunch of killer riffs put aside, knowing that eventually he would record with Axl again. It would mean a monster of an album would be in the works right now. Just imagine a riff better than Fall to Pieces and Anastasia?  :drool:

Ehm...i can easily imagine a better riff...  : ok:

Anyway, i don't care about all the rumors. I said sometimes ago that i would have loved to see axl & slash shaking hands once again...this is really more than I could expect from them  :peace:..

Maybe an informal picture of the holy trinity instead of a both sad-exciting spot for the upcoming shows would be appreciate :peace:

Back to "spitballing"- but maybe some "bonus" tracks (thinking older vintage like "Shadow Of Your Love"- but who knows?) to be added on to a proper 2 disc Best Of collection?

The same out of loop people keep answering questions in the media because they are leeches who will not let go. They all need to soaked in bleach. :hihi:

If the reports are true (Slash recording), I think there's brand new stuff written.

The guys in the band have probably known this regrouping would happen for some time, at least longer than since the official announcement.

If Slash and Axl reconnected say a year ago, stuff could have been written in the past year. If they plan on releasing something before or during the tour, the stuff most likely would have been written before they entered the studio and Axl would've had a proper amount of time to write lyrics as well.

A "Best Of" collection does make sense for this tour, all the time there hasn't been talk of a new album soon.

But if an album is in their plans, a single or EP would make more sense now in the beginning of the tour.

The same news (rumor) was also here in a local newspaper (Belgium, "Nieuwsblad").
If this is true, this is fantastic news for us Guns fans. The only thing that bothers me is, that they seem to be in the recording studio but Axl isn't joining...same for the rehearsals I thought.
I don't get it why Axl is not showing up for rehearsals or potential new recordings. Is being there not an added value?
Was this the same for the AFD & UYI recordings? (I know he often skipped rehearsals for the UYI tour, which I also couldn't understand...)

We don?t know what?s really going on at the rehearsals. As far as I know, these are all just rumours. Nobody except the band members is admitted there, isn?t that right?

And whoever they invite I suppose.

Representatives from Rotosound stopped by the rehearsal studio to meet Duff.

Exactly, that's not even a legit rumour. It's just like saying it probably gets cold in the winter.

We have to wait and see I guess.

Fans predicting setlists haven't guessed the same songs though. It's all over the place.

Had we all been in agreement that CD and Madagascar would be the songs from Chinese to be played I would agree ? swooping in after that, saying the exact same thing in an interview wouldn't mean a thing.

But learning about this woman's past doesn't make me trust her more, I'll say that.

Are they predictions or wishes? There's quite a difference.

Well, both.

But, it's not like the fans' predictions have consistently been CD and Madagascar.

Hasnt Axl said before he still has lots of recordings from before Slash quit in 96 of stuff he wrote for Guns ? Even some stuff with Zakk Wylde ? Maybe some brand new ones and some stuff from back then they have reworked on !!
I still hope I get to hear The General , Seven , Soul Monster etc one day tho

I really really hope they don't play more than 2 or 3 songs from CD. I want this to be like a UYI era tour setlist basically. There's so many good songs on UYI that don't get played live much. Locomotive anyone?

Pretty Tied Up?

Just give me a UYI era setlist with 2 or 3 CD songs and 2 new songs, and I'd be in heaven. 24ish total

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6889329/guns-n-roses-new-music-album-2016-reunion-tour-slash-axl-rose


Nothing new, but let's see if they get a response to this:

Billboard has reached out to a representative for Slash for further comment.

False

 :smoking:

To be honest I really dont care about new music at all at this point, just do a tour and see how it goes

Didn't the same guy say that Izzy had been recording tracks with the band too? Now we know from Izzy that's not true.

It was a fake account, he is now tweeting peruvian reality shows with fake Axl Rose on it! LOL

How do you know it's fake? We haven't really heard anything from the Man himself. The chances are he's in Peru :peace:

New music anytime soon from Axl, Slash, and company seems really far-fetched right now to me. I guess it's my pessimist side that's showing. I think it could be a more realistic possibility in 2017. I'd love to hear new music released by the 1980's/1990's core members. I'd love to be blown away by GN'R music again like I was 1980's/1990's. They haven't been a group for a very long time and we all know the amount of time albums were released between The Spaghetti Incident? and Chinese Democracy. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

http://classicrock.teamrock.com/features/2016-02-24/guns-n-roses-star-in-the-new-issue-of-classic-rock

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Been seeing some opposition, mostly on other boards, to the prospect if Slash laying down guitar over some of the unreleased Chi Dem era tracks.  To me this is baffling, mostly because of the fact that these same posters were pretty much mums to word when DJ Ashba & Bumblefoot spoke of doing the exact same thing.  That is, recording on the tracks that Axl had "in the can".

Wouldn't it make sense for the guy who defined GNR's guitar sound to kick these tracks up a proverbial notch?  I mean, to me this is 10x more preferable to the likes of Bumblefoot or DJ adding guitars and finishing them up with their creative input. 

I wouldn't mind it, as long as there's new music. It's the most important thing to me.

However, there is a difference between adding fills and solos, and creating a riff that is the basis of a song.

It would be cool to hear something that can be described as a Slash and Axl song.

To give an example: I wouldn't call any Chinese Democracy songs Bumblefoot songs although he plays on all of them. There are Robin songs and Buckethead songs though.

I see what you mean.  Personally, my thoughts go to songs like Estranged, Breakdown, November Rain, Prostitute, This I Love etc.  Songs that are primarily Axl compositions, that, when turned over to the right guitarists, turn out to be masterpieces. 

Let's say (for shits and giggles) The General exists with guitars already, which I'm sure is the case.  Let's say Axl removes whatever lead guitars are on it as it stands, and hands it over to Slash.  I don't see any reason(s) why he wouldn't be able to knock it the f*ck out of the park.

I think that some fans are just so stuck on the idea that GNR is, was and will always be ONLY material created by members of the band prior to 1996 that they are blinded to any and all reality.

I believe it's fact (but maybe not officially confirmed?) that some CD songs and some 'future' material were written prior to Slash's 1996 departure.  Yet some fans refuse to acknowledge this very well may be the case.  They refuse to entertain the possibility that Slash has, is and will be involved with anything created in the CD-era or with any CD-era members.

Another fact is and confirmed by both DJ and Bumblefoot that neither added anything 'new' to any 'future' tracks for GNR so that's just a non-topic.

 

Yup.  Like I said in my post above, I highly doubt Slash's additions would or will be like what Ron did on Chinese; like extra noodling and fills here and there and maybe some extra rhythms.  I think Slash would ultimately replace whatever leads are there completely. 

But hopefully not Brian May's tracks.  :hihi:

Haha, some things just can't be taken off the alter.  ;)

Yeah, that is a bit different.

Not quite like Coma, but more like Estranged.  : ok:

Exactly.  And it's not that I don't want to see some Slash compositions, but only that it makes sense that Slash contribute to an album that we have been told ad nauseam is already complete. That is, if they want to put it out in timely conjunction with the upcoming tour. 

I guess I just don't see them starting from the ground up on new music, at least not anytime soon.

As we all learned whilst waiting on the release of CD, the words "already complete" are subjective.

You're not wrong.  :-\

Whether it's Slash just adding some fills or him completely replacing all lead guitar part on CD2 (or some combination of both), I'd very much prefer that than to not having him on the album at all.  I know the whole rationale about don't create another reason to delay this, but let's face it, we're waiting either way, so why not have the wait be for the best album it could be.  Also, I want new music added to the live catalog, so having Slash be a part of the new music will make it more likely the material will be played live. 

Plus I think it would also add to the stability and acceptance (for lack of a better term) of the GNR2016 line-up.

I keep thinking when am I going to wake up to all this being a dream.

I'd love for them to tear out all the old guitar parts on songs like the General and other unreleased CD tracks and have Slash just run train over them !

Even if it's just a couple songs and they are added to the much discussed Best of Release they could come out with. Combine that with finally getting to see Axl and Slash perform together... it could not get any better than 2016.

Agreed.  It would be "Their" music, as opposed to them supporting the follow up album just to be sports.

It's a trip, isn't it? At the Vegas shows someone is gonna have to pinch us.  Just surreal.  The thought of Axl & Slash playing SCOM, NR & Estranged again with us in the same room...Holy shit.  And if they randomly bust out new music? Too much. Just too much.

Yeah... I'll be there bright and early on the 8th... I'm standing right next to the stage for this... It's all I have thought about for the past few weeks .. and as we get closer... it's only going to get worse.

Regardless of when any new releases started from... the more Slash and Duff have their prints on it... the better... for a variety of reasons.

I'll be on the floor on the 9th.  I'm going to avoid reviews and setlists from the night before at all costs, and just hang at the casino(s) all day.  Maybe just check headlines to make sure they showed up and the place didn't burn to the ground.  :hihi:

You will be in vegas for the 8th but not at the show? That would absolutely devastate me...lol

You wanna laugh? Not only will I be in Vegas on the 8th, but my wife made me an ultimatum that the only way she'd go with me on this trip (which is the only way I'd get to go) is if on the first night we go to the Britney Spears Vegas show.  :nervous:

Dude... thats too much.... haha

I'm sure Britney finishes up around 10 o clock... you could hop across the street and probably not miss anything....

Lol, the things we do for GNR. Welp, if I win the Nightrain concert for night 1, it might be my get out of jail free ticket.  Fingers crossed!

Maybe they're going to re-record some of there earlier songs that never made it, for various reasons, onto their previous albums - songs like 'Aint going down' or whatever it was called - I can't remember.

Ha! My gf loves Britney the same way I love gnr. If I said lets go and we will also go see Britney she would in a second!

Taking longer doesn't always equate to the "best" album.  Also, maybe Buckethead, Bumblefoots, or someone else's take is actually better than Slash's? 

All subjective, so we're talking opinions here.  I liked the lead guitar work from from Buckethead and Finck on CD (loved it in some cases) but I think adding Slash to anything of Guns N' Roses makes it better.  And I agree that taking longer for its own sake doesn't make something better but if it's for the sake of adding Slash contributions then I think it does. 

Cant help but think classic rock have got a couple of qoutes and welded together a story thats nothing,all vapour,we know the band are rehearsing so what its old news really.

Smoke and mirrors till Axl says otherwise.

Always knew there would be a G'n'R reunion eventually : ok:

I'm really happy about the news obviously, but I wish we got some sort of official thing soon.

I mean all we know is Axl Slash and Duff and Frank are in the band. We know they've booked 6 killer sold out shows, and a rumored 25 date stadium tour is in the works.

We know they are rehearsing without Axl and Slash is writing some new material. That is it. Which is awesome! I just would like something soon to clarify the plans.

As Gn'R fans we've been left in the dark a lot over the years. It would be cool to just have an idea of what is coming forth.

Best Of set? A Set the band actually wants out? Tour dates? New single? Something.

Yeah and you've got the screen name to prove it.   :hihi:

nice one. I personally didn't think it would happen ever, maybe when they were like in their mid 60s or something for just 1 tour.

With them being this young just early to mid 50s... they still got a few years left before it is ridiculous (Rolling Stones anyone)

Wonder what the chances are of a new song (or two) being debuted in Vegas.  One month away now.  Probably would be our best indicator as far as whether or not new music is going to coincide with the reunion tour.

I know if they'd put out now a Greatest Hits album with couple of new songs, lots of people and media will start screaming "money grab". I won't mind it though! A new compilation with new graphics and couple of new songs... The Stones did it with their GRRR album and no one said anything...

It's a bit late on the game though to put out anything...it's only one month until the first show...but still, one can only dream...

I'm having someone take screenshots for me of this site and others on the 8th and 9th during the shows so I can go back and look at how crazy the internet went while I was at the shows  :hihi:

http://www.alternativenation.net/slash-working-on-unreleased-guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-songs/

Atlas Shrugged  :drool:

Well, this is certainly what a lot of us think.

An unreleased CD era song or 2 with Slash and Duff on it on some sort of best of retrospective.

Still believe it when I see it, but its not impossible.

so what songs do we have "confirmed"?

- Atlas Shrugged [allegedly heard by Classic Rock Magazine as reported in July 2007; confirmed by Tom Zutaut to Classic Rock Magazine in March 2008; confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Berlin (f/k/a Oklahoma) [first mentioned by Axl to Rolling Stone in January 2000; later mentioned by Guns N' Roses' management to All Star News in January 2001; later discussed by engineer Dave Dominguez in February 2005; confirmed by Axl during an online chat; name change confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Daddy Can The Devil Do Mommy And Me? [first mentioned by Axl during an online chat; later described by Axl as a possible solo song during an online chat]
- Down By The Ocean (a/k/a Down By The Sea) [first mentioned by Izzy Stradlin to Da Popular Magazine in 2001; confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Elvis Presley And The Monster Of Soul (a/k/a The Soul Monster a/k/a Soul Monster a/k/a Leave Me Alone) [first mentioned on composer Marco Beltrami's website in October 2002; confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- The General [first mentioned on composer Marco Beltrami's website in October 2002; later mentioned by Sebastian Back to Metal Edge in November 2007; confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Ides Of March [first mentioned by engineer Dave Dominguez in February 2005; confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Quick Song [confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Seven [first mentioned on composer Marco Beltrami's website in October 2002; confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Thyme [first mentioned on composer Marco Beltrami's website in October 2002; confirmed by Axl during an online chat]
- Zodiac [confirmed by Axl during an online chat]

(compilation courtesy of Dark Globe @ CD.com forum)

Very Interesing

 :smoking:

Not to be a negative ass, but I don't really trust this article. It looks like a bunch of unsubstantiated speculations and wishes that "would make sense", but nothing more...

I don't think you're alone.

A Twitter shot of him in the studio would go a damn sight further than a guy that heard from a guy, which is all this really is.

I hear you. in fact this COULD be a total bullshit. all that makes it at least remotely legit is the source, as MSL was right in the past, so this MIGHT be true again this time.

Atlas Shrugged and The General, the lyrical "sequel" to Estranged.  Only fitting that Slash plays on both.

Exactly, I've learned to take internet heresay and gossip with a huge tablespoon of salt - and altnation.net is noted for it's less than reputable clickbait headlines.

I just agreed with DgenX- Axl and Slash are doing shows, and Izzy has a twitter, what a weird year this is  :hihi:

It's an amazing time to be alive, Emily.

That seems to be the easiest and most likely release we'll get. A best of... or "Definitive" thing.

We have a mediocre live album, which I think should get redone... like 1/3 of the songs are from that Tokyo show in 1992, lame.

A GH album that Axl didn't want released at all, while it is a true "GH" album and represents the band's true "hits" that will work forever. All the song's GH are on there. Ain't it Fun is a great song from TSI and was a hit in the UK and a good rock hit in USA. So I really think they don't need another GH release. I hate bands that release them every 5 years.

Yeah no CD songs are on it, but what songs could be... exactly. "Chinese Democracy" at best? I don't see redoing the GH for 1 song inclusion.

The best of!!! That is what I want. Do a Definitive thing man, 2 discs, 24 songs or so, with 2 new songs. Bands notes in a nice thick booklet. I'd grab that so fast.

Slash, Robin, Buckethead and Bumblefoot together on the same tracks - yes, I consider that as a "best of"  :peace:

He wasn't always right in the past, tho. Also, he's likes the drama, so this is the perfect time for it.

yup, that's why I said "MIGHT" ;) this might be right, might be not. as usually in GNR world, rumors are only sometimes really true :peace:

Do "best of" albums even make sense in 2016 for a band like GNR? I don't think so.  Their entire catalogue is already available digitally for anyone who wants it, not to mention the 2004 "Greatest Hits".

I think the next release is a single featuring Slash, leading to a new album.

Nah... it would be mostly 87-91 stuff...

They wouldn't be playing on the same tracks either. I would only put 3-4 CD songs on a best of. No more.

I think he's talking about the new tracks, and how Slash is allegedly recording guitar for the second half of Chinese.  I would imagine some rhythms and fills here and there from previous guitar players will remain on what will be the next release.

Oh, I'm with you. 

A single on iTunes for $1.29 makes more sense to me than asking people to buy what is probably their third copy of 'Welcome To The Jungle' and 'November Rain'.

But that option has been out there for years now.  For whatever reason, the GNR camp doesn't seem interested in it.

I would put one, 'Better'.  Maybe, *maybe* 'Chinese Democracy' as well.

I happen to think 'There Was A Time' and 'IRS' are better songs than both of them, but then you are getting into album cuts.

'Better' and 'Chinese Democracy' were at least singles.  Even if the next time any of us hear them on a radio station will be the first time.

That's my point, exactly.  The fans already have all these songs on our respective electronic devices, vinyl etc. The only track I'd purchase is something "new".

And I'll tell ya, if having Slash and Duff back in the fold doesn't motivate Axl to put out new music, nothing will.  NOTHING. WILL.

I don't really think any new music is forthcoming.

If it is, its because Slash and Duff were so enthused by what they heard, they push him on it.

Left to his own devices, he's not putting anything else out.

Yet the old albums, including Greatest Hits, keep selling. So who's buying them since all of us have the songs already?

My point is, just because you or I might not be the target audience for a specific release, doesn't mean there isn't one.



/jarmo

'Chinese Democracy' was actually in quite heavy rotation on the radio in the time leading up to the album release.

It fizzled out after that though.

Yeah, and I would agree. I would imagine having Slash and Duff involved on new music would have them shoulder some of the weight as far as reception is concerned.  As in, Axl will not be the sole target of the media, fans, etc.

But it's hard to say.  The last time Slash & Duff were involved, it was a democracy of sorts.  I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that they likely have very little say in whether Guns puts out a record, be it them recording on Chinese 2 or otherwise.

You'd have to trick up another batch though.  There would have to be something different.

A new song or three would be the best way, obviously.

You could be right.  But I guess that's one of my points.  There's already a pretty well known Guns greatest hits album out there, that still does well to a degree.  

Also, you have to consider that it's initial success was due to physical copies being snatched up in stores in 2004/2005 when it was new.  As we all know, that's a diminishing market.  And if the only sales are coming digitally, well, they're already there.

I can see some vinyl remasters, like what Metallica is doing, but that's a niche market.  

True.  

But he might at least listen to them.  I kind of always pictured him making the jerking off motion anytime Ron or DJ would broach this subject.

Another way to look at it is that Axl might be...I don't now, flattered?  Is that the word?  Maybe validated is a better one.  But I'm talking about him perhaps being a bit more motivated to get moving on it if Slash and Duff tell him they really like what they hear.

We've heard the phrase "lack of support" from the label being thrown around a shit ton since late 2008.  If that's been what's hindering Axl from going forward with the next album, I would imagine having Slash and Duff back shoots that excuse to hell. 

What Universal/Geffen/Interscope exec isn't pounding on Axl's door in Malibu as we speak asking for a new record?  If not, they deserve to be dick-slapped immediately.

There's bands with less hits than GN'R, who have multiple compilations out.
You put a new package out, mix up the track list and voila, a new release....

Suddenly people walk into Walmart and there's a GN'R cd in the new releases section....

That kind of stuff is something people often disregard.



/jarmo

I guess an attractive prospect would be that this would be a "best of" that's handpicked by Slash, Axl and Duff this time around.  All three fought the 2004 release, might be interesting to see it done over a decade later on their terms.  Something tells me SFTD won't make the cut this time.  :hihi:

http://www.alternativenation.net/slash-working-on-unreleased-guns-n-roses-chinese-democracy-songs/

After they fought the 2004 release, there was a "Best Of" double album slated to be released in 2005.

I can only assume that Axl, Slash and Duff collaborated on the track list for the release.

It's been posted several times before, but anyways, here it is:



Track list:

CD 1:
1. Welcome To The Jungle
2. Mr. Brownstone
3. Sweet Child O' Mine
4. November Rain
5. Civil War
6. 14 Years
7. Used To Love Her
8. Out Ta Get Me
9. Down On The Farm
10. Perfect Crime
11. My Michelle
12. Coma
13. Move To The City
14. Nightrain
15. Live And Let Die
16. Don't Cry

CD 2:
1. It's So Easy
2. You Could Be Mine
3. Paradise City
4. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
5. Patience
6. Yesterdays
7. Pretty Tied Up
8. Black Leather
9. Double Talkin' Jive
10. Locomotive
11. Dead Horse
12. You're Crazy
13. Estranged
14. Rocket Queen



EDIT: Obviously, this was before Chinese, so it might look slightly different today.

That's a pretty solid tracklist.

Yeah, it's not far from what I would've selected myself.

'Don't Damn Me' instead of 'Black Leather'.

the problem is, the casual "fans" don't consider Chinese a proper GNR record. it will be quite interesting, if they play Chinese songs at the following tour, and how/if that casual "fans" view changes :)

I wonder this myself.

Typical Fans:

Lose N' Trolls

 :hihi:

That would depend on whether slash plays the songs similar to what is on the record... or whether he plays them with his own spin on it.... and then how does that sound? It's an interesting topic of discussion to be honest.

As long as they dont use Tidal... :P

Then...

DUFF & SLASH Work In Songs Of 2Halftime Chinese Democracy (Disc Of GNR),,, Rock, Industrial, Electronic, Progressive

Axl Was Always Right

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Rather than another greatest "Hits", I'd rather them release a "Best Of", with lesser known tunes that weren't released as singles (Coma, Breakdown, TWAT, etc. -- whatever THE BAND considers their "best" or favorite). Of course, with a new song or 2. And even though I'd have all the songs already (except "Oh My God"--it's not on iTunes. How can I get it?) I would probably (have to) buy it because the new songs will surely not be available for stand alone purchase, but only with purchase of full album. I would GLADLY support that, to get new music. This concert can't get here soon enough. This band has never done it the easy or "normal" way; I fuckin' love it!!!

There are quite a few unfinished GnR songs throughout their history that would be great to hear finished off, and polished up for an album.
Maybe with one or two new tunes thrown in as well.

I'm telling you a Definitive Best Of compilation would sell man.

With this buzz, make a nice thick booklet with lyrics and band thoughts. I know it would sell over 1 million easy. I think 2 new songs woulc propel it too. Like I said recently a weak live album and a GH album doesn't really do justice.

Casual or non fans would pick up a Best Of

I personally would call it "Ultimate Guns N' Roses: 1987-2008" or something. Personally like DX said, I'd include Better and Chinese as songs on it from CD. Maybe Madagascar and This I love too.

Or they could just go the 87-91 route and keep it old school since Duff and Slash are back. It all depends. Almost everyone knows the hits... but casual or non fans don't know "Don't Damn Me", "Move to the City" and songs like "Rocket Queen". You'd be surprised. I really really think they should just milk this. Release a more in depth Live album and new best of with 2 new songs.

Id go through the fucking roof.

I would love a new version of Shadow of Your Love and to hear it live.

don't know about that. Slash can't put too much spin on Rhiad, Scraped or Shackler's (I don't think these will be played anyway). Slash would probably put his own solo on top of it and people will go "wow". especially on songs like streets of dreams, TIL or TWAT he could shine because they lend themself to make a great solo.

I think if people hear a CD song and just "think" it's a new song, they will think it's awesome. Only to feel stupid when they find out it's actually from that GnR album that everybody said sucks (but that they never actually bothered to listen to)

Yes And Whit SLASH Play:

BETTER, CHINESE DEMOCRACY, I.R.S., PROSTITUTE, MADAGASCAR, T.W.A.T., SHACKLER'S REVENGE, THIS I LOVE

Casual Fan ''OHHHHH, Excelent New Music From GNR, Amazing, Kick Ass, Are Back, blah, blah, blah ''

 :rofl:

yes, this is actually very possible!

Hahaha.  Could well be some of that.

Oh the one that took 10+ years to complete? And the one that isn't out (CDII)?

 

The only reason the "casual fan" didn't consider it a GNR record was because certain members weren't there.  With those members in the mix again, these "casual fans" will be more open to it, and probably like some of the songs.  Shallow people...   

Slash and Duff are superstars...I can understand if GNR skip CD era songs since they did not play on them...Just like Sammy Hagar being reluctant to play DLR VH songs, Aerosmith skipping Night in the Ruts/Rock in a Hard Place material, Motley Crue not playing songs from New Tatto/self titled John Corabi album, Sabbath skipping Dio era tunes, etc....Would Skid Row play Johnny Solinger songs, yes there have been good ones, if Baz returned?

Very apt description  : ok:

Reverse your VH example, Sammy sang everything, it's Dave that won't perform Sammy Era material... But I agree with your overall point. I would't expect more than a song or two to be played by this line up (not withstanding a reworked version of a song we haven't heard yet that still may carry some songwriting credit from a long lost CD era member).

I think I said Sammy was reluctant to play DLR era songs..Always did as few as possible even during the 5150 tour...DLR doesn't sing Sammy era songs because it's a different style of singing...Back to GNR...

After all these years you guys still think GNR follows any pattern?

I trully believe they will play CD songs, even if it's just one or two. I can't understand why is this still being discussed.

haha, yeah. I think that goes vice versa. put Axl on a lot of Slashsongs and a lot of folks would love them even though they gave Slash hell after he left GNR. if GNR  released new music, people would be amazed by Slashs riffs and solos again. like that "Axl gets the best out of him" bullshit.

 : ok: :rofl: :smoking: :hihi:

The Best For All

 :beer:

I'm one of these people.  I wouldn't say I gave him "hell", but yeah, I'm not the biggest fan.  Still not.  I felt Slash back stabbed Axl on many occasions before Axl even touched the subject.  Slash aired dirty laundry that should have been left within the band.  Not to mention that I respect Axl a hell of a lot more for decisions that he has or has not made.  I think Slash is a media whore who would jump at any opportunity to stay in the spotlight.  Slash can do whatever he chooses, good for him....but I'm just saying I have a little more respect for Axl. 

And to your point, yeah, I probably would love some of Slash's songs with Axl on them.  BECAUSE it's Axls voice.  I believe there are hundreds of guitar players out there who could do pretty much the same thing (other than originality).  When it comes to a voice, not so much.  For example...when people cover a Guns N Roses song...the music itself sounds pretty similar.  But I have yet to hear anyone sing like Axl.  And this could be said for lots of singers...a voice is more unique. 

I see people's messages on here about how those Slash "haters" are all back on board now just because Axl and Slash are back together.  For the record...not me.  I feel the same way about Slash now as I did 10 years ago.  I don't "hate" him...but I feel the same as I explained above.  I'm excited for the upcoming shows (because of the attention it's getting), and will see GNR when I can for the atmosphere....but I'm not one of those fans your talking about who is sucking his dick now that he's back in the band.   

It's a 2 way street... a lot of the songs Axl did after Slash (all 15 of them) lol ... they were good, but some of them lacked that Slash edge.

This surprises me, I have to be honest.

Since I never saw one shred of this Slash hate until things went south with he and Axl, I 100% assumed it was just Axl diehards taking up his cause.  They tend to take up his causes as their own.  They hate what he hates, like what he likes.  For years I heard how Izzy and Duff could also go get fucked.  Until the second Axl patched it up with them, and then you never heard that talk anymore.

So once Axl and Slash patched it up, I assumed the Axl diehards would fall similarly back into line.  I mean...if the man himself is now OK with it, why are you still carrying the torch?

I'm not calling you (or anyone) a liar on this, mind you.  I'm just surprised, is all.  I had the way wrong read.

Was just thinking how much it would, quite literally, blow everyone's minds to pieces if they busted out 1 or 2 new songs in Vegas, leading to the new album announcement.  Would certainly explain the radio silence over the past few months from the big 3.

Anything that happens with Guns N Roses after this tour is all gravy to me...

I never thought I'd ever get to see these two on stage together... so anything else... is just extra...

I'm done arguing about what GNR is . Should Buckethead's parts be on the next album (he only quit 15 fucking years ago). Who should be the drummer... etc etc etc

I love the GNR catalogue... everything else is irrelevant. This is the only band I follow and always will be.


27 days !!!!!!!

27?  ;)

Ha... 27 days till I land In Vegas...

but you get the point.  :)

Haha, yeah I got it.

There was a chance you were attending a private unannounced show though....

I am itching to go now......may have some coin soon to make a quick strike and could use a vacation! :beer:

I'm not saying there aren't people like this...because there is....but not me.  However, maybe you never saw hate towards Slash until he was out...because that's when we started to see some of the things I alluded to earlier?  How could Slash back stab Axl unless he was out of the band?  Why and how could Slash take every opportunity to be in the spotlight and stay relevant while he was IN Guns?  Yeah, I'm sure some people noticed things while he was in the band...but I'm pretty sure most couldn't really happen until he was out. 

Also, I wasn't on this board when Slash was in the band.     

I will tell you one thing. If you watch those old videos, Slash liked to get to the microphone and let himself be heard...no doubt. Most bands have one mouthpiece. EVH rarely spoke on stage back in the day. You can see a power struggle coming on between Axl and Slash in the old videos from 87-88...shit happens eventually with 2 alpha males.

Axl never was too much into interviews etc. I think for Slash it's part of the business. If you put effort into a record, you promote it. simple as that. Slash and Duff always did that. And he sure had to do so when he was going solo because his solostuff isn't a fast-selling item as something released under the GNR banner.