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Ok.All of uss are very happy with the reunion of guns n roses.
But I thinking about one thing.Can they become a band again like in 1988 or 1991...?

no. much like you can't be 18 again, things keep changing, it's 2016 now. let's just consider this another GNR era - people expecting GNR from AFD/UYI era back can only be terribly disappointed.

Artistically, I think it's very healthy for GN'R that the band now consists of three "peers" + a number of "employees". Axl probably still owns the name, but he's not the only rock star in the band anymore. And yes, I consider Dizzy an "employee" - albeit a very loyal one.

I don't think that's the case. in my opinion, nothing has really changed - Axl is still in charge and the others are around him, no matter they are new or returned. otherwise we would have much talk, interviews and other buzz. but all we can see is absolute silence - not a single word from Axl, "I have no idea" from Slash and that's it. that makes me think there's lot of legal things behind the curtains and everybody is under some kind of legal agreement with many pages.

I can picture a moment or two where Izzy and Steven will appear with this lineup live but as a recording band I think it would be Frank and Richard. They're gonna be the touring band I think. If the original five guys did record a new song I'd say it would be awesome but it's still gonna be awesome with Richard and Frank. Guns music has evolved over the years through the introduction of different musicians. Slash's distinct guitar sound and Duffs thumping bass lines along with Stevens rhythm and Izzys guitar bouncing off Slash is what gave most of us the idea of what was the Guns n Roses sound. And of course Axls screeching vocals. Then UYI albums came along and there was stuff we never thought we'd hear this band play like November Rain and Estranged. This band had evolved again and took on a new drummer who added his own style to it. A very different sound came out with Chin Dem and that's because we've a bunch of new musicians. Now we are getting to hear that old sound again along with two 'new' musucians (frank & Richard) There's no doubt this Guns n Roses will be awesome. If you've been to a Slash show you'll know that sound and hear how those songs sound when Slash plays them. His guitar and Axl's vocals go well together. We're going to have an amazing new Guns N Roses. We will still see Izzy and Steven make guest appearances and maybe the classic lineup could record a song for some good cause or something. Whatever happens from here can be amazing once Axl has buried the hatchet with all these guys. With the way rock stars are dying lately it's good that things like this happen and people get rid of any negativity lurking away in their souls

Things will never be the same again. It can be awesome, but it will be different even if the 5 original guys were there. And it's all good to me, I'm different too now.

Of course it's not gonna be the same thing, and it was not supposed to be.

I think there's a lot of people who just didn't considered it otherwise.

It won't be the same. You have to look at it like this. Slash and Duff are fathers now. They are no longer the two guys that accepted awards from the American Music Awards show while being drunk and saying the f word along with "oops". They've changed. Axl has changed with Beta.  It's different. I do think they'll create some awesome music and really be an influence to younger bands. However, it'll never be the same again. 

No shot.

They were the biggest rock band in the world during their prime.  Them, or U2.  They are never getting that back.

And we don't even know if there will ever be even one original song from whatever this new line-up winds up being. 

We might well be getting nothing but some more touring playing similar setlists, just with the added benefit of the material being played by more of the guys that actually made it.  I think expecting anything more than that is not realistic.

Exactly, this.  And the funny thing is that even if they defy the odds (again) and drop an album that's on par with Appetite or The Illusions...It's just not what's commercially viable right now.  Sad, but all too true. 

That's not to say that they still can't enjoy incredible financial success from touring and releasing music.  But THE band?  I think that ship sailed in '93. And that's okay.

You guys didn't take my point...
I didn't ask about past or future...Apsolutely nobody don't except old band and other shit...
I only ask can they be a band...Group of musican with chemistry and other things

I think I did.

I don't really see where we have anything more than a different touring band.  Just a better one.

Well if that's your question then I don't think anyone will know for sure until April 8.

I concur.

I don't see why the band won't sound good come April 8th.

Each successive line-up has never failed to play the songs right. 

How would that be a problem adding back some of the originals?

This reunion presumably means Axl first of all have repaired the broken friendship with Slash. Duff and Axl have already spent time together over the past years, so it seems they have been good for a while.

If the basis of the reunion tour is friendships being restored, that is a very good thing. It bodes well for them having much more fun while on stage, and it could create a creative environment off the road which may culminate in new music.

If the reunion is purely driven by money ? which I actually doubt, given that Axl has repeatedly turned down offers through the years, it will be a going-through-the-motions kind of deal. Money is involved of course, but I don't think these guys would have done this while still being unfriendly with each other.

So, yes, I think there's a good chance they will feel that this is a band again.

Absolutely.

Best case scenario, they write an album together, and it's Good in the artistic sense (commercially I don't give a fuck), kind of like one of those Stones Albums that didnt sell very well, but when you go back and listen to them they are awesome even if there's no ''Sister morphine'' or "Satisfaction".

Worst case scenario. They do the 5 tours that Tommy mentioned and that's it.

Based only on the last South American tour when Duff joined the band. I think  chemistry was better than I thought it would be. But chemistry between Axl and Slash or the whole band with Slash I have to wait for the shows to see if it is there.

A music video & new album would make them an international phenomenon, but would still make decent waves in The States. You'd hope.

I mean are Slash and Duff feel Guns n roses like their home and main project like in1987-1996

I wonder why people push so hard on this idea of being "the biggest band in the world" again yada yada. Fact is that the music industry and the way in which consumers consume media has changed enormously almost to be point of recognition in the last 20 years. Artists cannot dominate again simply because of the vast vast array of choice we all have today.

We are all much happier if we just hope for the bands we love to tour and release music in whatever way they see fit.

GREG

I think they can (and will) be a very tight, professional touring machine that will solidify the band's legacy for all-time- and send a lot of fans home very happy. Beyond that (e.g. new music, future projects, etc.)- not sure any one can really know.

Only time can tell. We're all hoping but I don't see a repeat of live era.

Don't quite get the gist of this topic.  The GNR tour will definitely make the top 10 list of memorable moments in 2016 in the entertainment world for sure!!!  8) Most bands that achieve longevity have both old and new fans. GNR has both so they will do quite well.  : ok:

don't know...time will tell...good thing is, this time, Slash can
bring his guitar at a GNR Vegas show without any problem  :hihi:

I assume it'll be their main project. If its a world tour there wont be much time for anything else.


 In the words of Sammy Hagar....only time will tell if it stands the test of time.....


Absolutely. I'm hoping it goes down like the Soundgarden reunion.....releases in the midst of touring but that is definitely best case scenario.

I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say it'll be number 1 on that list.  :smoking:

The world has changed a lot, especially musically since the last time Slash and Duff were in the band.  I don't think it will ever be like it was in the early 90's again, but thats not a bad thing!  Rock N Roll for the most part is dead commerically, it is definitely (to borrow a popular phrase from a few articles posted here recently) "culturally relevant."  It is hard for bands to get noticed these days.  Guns N Roses wont have that problem.  They are probably the last huge hard rock band along with a few bands from the early 90's like Pearl Jam, Foo Fighters.  GNR are bigger than both of them, hands down.  Point being any thing they do whether its shows or music will get out to a mass audience, because the media will cover it, which is something newer bands struggle with.  I think any record the band puts out will have no problem topping the charts.

I think the question posed in this thread wasn't about GN'R's ability to be commercially successful. More about how the chemistry would be on/off stage ? will they feel like a band again.

yeah i saw the topic kind of drift to the commercial stuff so that's why I chimed in with that.  As far as the chemistry on stage we will find out.  The chemistry off stage?  Nobody besides band members themselves would know that.  I will say that I don't think any of this would be happening if they didn't clear up their differences and come to a resolution.  I don't think any of these guys are being forced on this stage for money, there has to be some kind of mutual respect or understanding between them.  These guys obviously want to do this together, so thats a good sign as far as future chemistry goes.

After soldout shows in a minute ,it is obviously it will be  big deal

Its impossible to bring back the 80s and 90s.   Even a full-on AFD reunion wouldn't be the same as 1989.

Beyond these 4 shows, we don't even know what else is on tap.     They could just be testing the water these shows, hence the reason they aren't saying much.

The demand is clearly there.   The money is there.  

Pretty much the same viewpoint as myself, I agree.

What I meant by off stage was the prospect of them going into the studio to record new music. If the chemistry isn't there, I don't think they'll bother.

This is exactly my thinking.

Whats good "commercially" these days makes me want to cut my own ears off.

If we get an album and it sounds good to me, thats all that matters. I couldnt give a shit what radio stations think.. these same radio stations that give us slop like Nicky Minag  and the list goes on::)

Can they be a band again? Most certainly... ive seen guns minus the classic line up.. and ive seen slash with MK.. and as i have said a million times, both shows were great but they would be explosive together... i still believe that and we will get an answer in April when they hit the stage. Im more then confident.

I don't think that radio stations that play that programming will be playing any rock music.  I'm pretty sure your local rock station will play it

I don't do mainstream popular radio either, I'm classic rock all the way.

No because it's 2016.

Can they become the band again? I doubt it, because times have changed and usually the band is a fresh one.

Can they become a band again? Surely. And I hope they do, would not want it to be just a nostalgic touring thing.

Have to agree,time has moved on,music has become so far removed from what it was back in the peak years so to expect it all to come back together is unrealistic.

The tour will surely be a greatest hits type tour and thats cool and all but this isnt the band of 30 years ago it is what it is 3 originals and a few hires to flesh the sound out.

And my answer to your question bout the biggest band back then..U2 just and only because they where reaching their artistic peak in my view from '87 to '92 everything they released even if you didnt like it demanded your attention,Guns where at that time just getting into their stride,their best years ahead of them..

Shame really a real case of what might have been.