Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Starting this only because I think I've seen this question surface in various forms in about 5 different threads. Hard to really gather people's thoughts that way. It's a legit question - If , in fact, some CD songs to make it onto the setlist...which ones would you see Slash's style working well on

Just list the top 3 in your mind that'd work well

1) IRS
2) CATCHER
3) TWAT - This one I would actually love to watch/hear the guy ripping through those solos

nah, his style is completely different. these songs' solos require totally different player. but yeah, it would still be interesting to see such interpretation.

-Catcher (i know he could do a better work on the outro solo doing it less invasive)
-Til (he could fix the 1st part of the solo in wich both fink & dj sucked balls imho)
-Better (no virtuoso needed for this song, you can handle it in different ways)

They won't play it but he could do a great work on madagascar, the solo on that song really lacks of melody & pathos.

There Was A Time

Is the point that Slash's style and tone is different or he's technically incapable of playing those songs?  They're two different things.  If anyone's read the guitar tab of Slash parts, he can nail those 32nd notes as well.  He's no slouch.

Chinese Democracy
Better
Street of Dreams
If The World
 There Was A Time (the first solo played by Slash, the second one by Fortus)
Sorry
I.R.S.
This I Love.

I'd prefer Fortus to play the CD solos. I don't see Slash's sloppy/bluesy style in them. Maybe The Blues...

This I Love.  He's gonna nail the solo.   :love:

The bottom line is nobody knows what he will or will not play on.  My guess, any song that might be seen as taking a pop at him won't be done. So possibly Prostitute and maybe Sorry, (though Axl said at one of the Japan show it wasn't about Slash) are no-go'ers but beyond that I don't see him refusing to play anything from CD. Whether or not he's a good fit is another debate...

ANd here comes the Slash hate.

Once a supporter, now a hater.

Oh, how the world turns round and round. ;D

Btw I do see Slash in 1) THis I love, 2) There Was a TIme, 3)The blues(SOD) and to a lesser extent Madagascar and Catcher in the Rye.

I agree. almost, because TWAT solo needs a skillful shredder.

I can play the guitar, not very well, but enough to see that The Twat Solo is not that hard to play. It does have some finger tapping but I think it can be played without it.  A much harder solo and way different in style and technique to Slash is the one on Better.

That guy is a complete joke. No shit

Ashba could never get the Better solo to sound good.  I know that he probably wasn't trying to play it true to Robin's original, but his versions were just awful.  The gig in LA where Robin rejoined and they had to restart the song a couple of times is the last time that song sounded great.

Not a hater at all. There are other GNR songs where Fortus/Bucket/BBF style doesn't fit, and I am looking forward to see Slash playing them, like KOHD, Dont Cry, November Rain, etc. I stopped liking these three songs since Slash left the band. It's just a matter of styles and tastes.

and hey! Never liked DJ Ashba, and payed 16 tickets to see him live! Always a supporter  ;)

As for Jarmo's personal hater/stalker, I will not reply him. I dont want him to be obsessed with me as he is with Jarmo.

TIL, Catcher & Mayyyybe TWAT.  Of course, hopefully he makes his mark on some of the unreleased stuff too, both on the album and live.

Chinese Democracy has been mentioned in the official announcement for Coachella. In my opinion, that can be seen as a sign that they don't ignore this album in the live shows.

I think he would put nice spin on

IRS
The Blues
Catcher
Chinese Democracy

So maybe it's an English thing. Just so you know the word ''sloppy'' is a derogatory term.

This I Love,There was a time ,Better and Street of Dreams.
His style will compliment these songs.
Oh,and Sorry... 8) Lyric wise his guitar playing fits just fine this song.

1. Sorry
2. This i love
3. The Blues

I'm pretty sure they'll play TIL. It has been around already in the old days and as far as I remember Slash even recorded some solo for it. And apparently it was incredible.

I'll tell ya which one is out of the question. Shackler's.... Could you even imagine??

How shocked would you be if he walked on stage with a double neck half fretless guitar and just melted faces on it?

I would love Slash to play better, catcher in the rye and this I love

absolutely no credible source for that at all.....the song was around back then but that is all we know.

I love it when people just make shit up. ::)

There was a source. Some of their former producers of Chinese said it in an interview ... or the girl, which plays on harp in that song. I can't remember exactly. But I'm afraid I'm not going to be able to find it.

EDIT:
Alright, found what I meant.
It doesn't mention Slash's solo being incredible ... must have read somewhere else (if ever?). But this definitely claims that it was recorded in some form by the old band. That would also explain why Axl originally didn't want to include the song on the album, but Tommy and Robin talked him into that.

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there is no source.....

However, Slash would have been perfect for that song. I am sure of that. :P

Chinese Democracy
Better
Street of Dreams

Funny people saying Slash cant play some CD solos... ::)
Have you heard Beneath The Savage Sun from his last record?  If not, you should...  :peace:

The rhythm of the Song kind of resembles Shackler's at times,

And for once, Miles' voice isnt annoying ,quite possessed and inspired.

Or this better the any tapping shit on CD https://youtu.be/bC8EmPA6H6g?t=4m16s

awesome !

Why is it necessary to put something down in order to present what you like?

Street Of Dreams
Catcher In The Rye
There Was A Time

I wish they would play Anastasia and Gotten. They are two of my favorite Slash songs  :)

IRS
ChiDem
TWAT
possibly Rhiad or Scraped
and Going Down sung by Duff and played by Slash could actually both sound nice and also be a humble bow to Tommy :)

TIL  :love: 

I am pretty sure Slash can play whatever the hell he wants, as long as he has freedom to do it in his own way. I don't expect him to play TWAT ending solo exactly like Buckehtead, it's not his style anyways. He would just jam around the main theme of the solo, just like he did in that Beat It performance with MJ back in the 90s - remember, the original solo is from Van Halen.

But I don't think Axl is comfortable in singing TWAT. It's a demanding song for his throat.

That's why I think the most obvious songs from CD, considering both Slash and Axl "safe zone", would be Street of Dreams, This I Love and Catcher. Maybe Better too, but that will depend on how much Richard could pull off so many leads from Bucket and if Slash would be ok with that.

I think the idea is interesting.

It would make the show(s) be about all of GN'R, not just one specific era. Maybe some would prefer it to be about one specific era, that's fine.

And if that was happening, then obviously I wouldn't be surprised if these songs were performed with their own twist to them.
Did Buckethead play the Nightrain outro solo exactly as it's on Appetite? No.

If you want to hear the songs exactly the way they were recorded, you got the records to listen to. ;)



/jarmo

I don't know if I want him to hear on CD songs but I think the following suit him more or less.

Chinese Democracy
Better
Street Of Dreams

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TIL (the solo section is meant for Slash)
TWAT (the solo section is meant for Slash)

For me:

IRS
CD
Better

Think we have to consider lyrical content. There's a few songs I don't see being played ever again if Slash is in the band. IRS, Prostitute or Sorry being among them. Of course it's open to interpretation but I don't think anyone can deny a vast amount of CD is about the breakup of the old band.

Better
SOD
IRS

IMO, people who think Slash can?t play CD songs are either (a) attempting to devalue his playing ability and/or (b) overstating the technical expertise required to play CD guitar parts.  Last I checked, Slash is regarding as one of the best guitarists of all time?pretty sure he?ll do ok.  Is Shackler?s his style?no.  Are they likely to play that?no. 

There are several songs (and let's be honest if CD songs get played at all it won't be several) that Slash can play.  This whole "issue" is blown way out of proportion.

Most solo's on CD are definitely in the same ballpark as Slash's style. Besides the obvious.

I could see Slash really getting into the CD title track and Street of Dreams. There are a few progressions that would just fall right into his lap!

These are the only 4 songs from CD they should even play too.... anything else would just be intrusive to the point of this reunion.

This I Love
Chinese Democracy
Madagascar
There Was a Time

If the question was "What CD songs do you think Slash will play live during upcoming shows"...I'd agree.

But it's not.  It's asking for songs I WANT TO HEAR Slash jam on, live.

So...nope, I don't have to consider anything else but that...what I want.

My list stands.

It's two different sounds. I like both and for very different reasons. Yeah, that's a cool solo. Slash is more melodic which is what I prefer. But nothing wrong with how crazy buckethead and bumblefoot play. Each has it's own place. All are badasses. BTW, the action on Slash's guitar is insanely low.

Edit: Street of Dreams, Better and Catcher.

The Conspirators Is Good Band, But GNR Is KickAss !!!

 :smoking:

The Blues a.k.a. Street of Dreams and This I Love are the "Slashier" songs on Chinese Democracy

The more industrial stuff probably doesn't work for Slash, but he could play anything.  Not sure how a Robin lover could accuse Slash of being sloppy.

Catcher for me

I could see slash doing "Better" just like the first half in the CD version and the ending like the DJ ASHBA remix version would probably be perfect (Without the power down, bubbles, and noodling in the middle).  :drool:

I'd love to see Slash play:
Better
TWAT
TIL

With that said,  I think it would be fun to see the sound Slash brings to most CD songs

All this talk of how CD doesn't suit Slash's style, maybe not, but the thing that makes life worth living is the ability to choose to learn something new, it's what gets me out of bed anyway. Don't suppose any of the band is much different either.

Would it be awkward for Slash to play 'Sorry' considering the lyrics seem to be directed at him ("You know where to put your 'Just shut up and sing'")?

I think these are the best songs from Chinese Democracy and I would love to hear Slash play them.

It could be about a manager though.. the label..

I think ''difference is nobody cares about you" is proof that its not about Slash.
Slash has tons of fans.. clearly a lot of people care about slash :) Even Axl knows that.

I always took the Sorry lyrics as a "if the cap fits" situation, aimed at a composite of whoever is appropriate.

Personally, I'm fascinated at the possibility of Slash adding to any of the newer material live, particularly Catcher and Madagascar - but also, what about Axl singing Slash/VR/Duff songs?  Is that a possibility if they indeed tour longer sets after Coachella? If so, +1 for Fall to Pieces  : ok:

I would like to listen to 2 CD songs top max per show, that being said I would like Slash to play:

- Street of Dreams
- This I Love
- Catcher in the Rye
- Better

 :peace:

Axl:

With Sorry.. like a lot of the material is drawn from a lot of different situations. The main focus on the boards w/the track seems to be either Slash or "the fans" (and the collective of "the fans" is another thing that doesn't work for me) and is much too restrictive or narrow and limits what I feel I intended. For me it's for anyone talking nonsense at mine and the public's expense and that many of those as well as the public don't know who to believe.

Also where possible I'd like to give people the opportunity to get what they can from the material for a while before clouding that with my inspirations. Of course that's not always avoidable [chinesedemocracy.com, December 13, 2008]

I would be extremely surprised if they played anything other than AFD and UYI songs. I just don't see CD songs happening, sort of like rubbing it in the face of Slash when he was gone.

Slash is on record saying he really liked Chinese Democracy... so who knows.

Better, Chinese Democracy, Sorry, and Shackler's Revenge.

Well he was on record saying that he was so happy to hear Axl's voice after so much time and that he sounded great... I don't think he heard the songs and went oh I wish I was a part of that record and the style of those songs.

It's not a style Slash would play in on a record I agree.

I just think, some songs on CD is quite close to something Slash would be comfortable playing. If the line-up indeed consists of Frank, Richard, Dizzy and Chris (+ the 3 legends), you then have a band where 5 of the 7 guys was part of an album by that band. I don't think Slash would be totally opposed to playing a couple of tunes from that album.

Sorry is clearly about Slash... I think that is pretty certain.

I always thought Spectacle was about Axl? Who knows?

I would love to hear him burn on This I Love

In Japan 2009 Osaka (I think) Axl says before playing Sorry, that the song ISN'T about Slash.

I'm quite sure Scott wrote every VR lyric... and I also seriously doubt he was writing lyrics about Axl Rose.

Honestly, unless he's contractually obligated to do so, I don't see Slash playing any Chi Dem songs.  He might want to take a crack at This I Love, but that's really it.

I know Duff did it when he was filling in for Tommy, but that was Duff joining the Chinese Democracy touring band.  This is way different.

Now, if Slash is secretly recording on tracks that were originally conceived during the Chi Dem sessions, that's a different story.  But tracks like TWAT, Better, IRS (songs I love) I really don't think are in the cards.

Don't understand why so many of you think this way.  Slash will be the ONLY person on that stage who hasn't played the CD songs. Do you think he's that petty that he'll refuse to play them??  Or do you think he doesn't have the talent/range to play them??

Don't get it either. I don't think is that far fetched to have Slash playing GNR songs he didn't write. Nobody is saying he needs to play exactly like the album. And those so-called "industrial vibe" will sound a lot like classic GNR with Slash's tone.

Agree.   In fact he may relish the opportunity to put his own spin on some of those solos.

This I Love was rumored to be from the UYI days, so he may have already played a solo on that song at one point.   

Agree 2 max

I would pay a lot to see

Slash play on TWAT.  With Buckethead.   

Slash could do Robins stuff.   With special guest Bucket. 

I always felt TWAT,Madascar and SOD would have fit perfectly on UYI..But for some reason I felt Slash belonged on TIL...

Not far fetched for a main player/performer not playing their "replacements" material...DLR in VH, Ace/Peter in KISS, Ozzy in Sabbath......

Chinese Democracy
Better
Street of Dreams
Catcher in the Rye
Sorry
I.R.S.
Madagascar
This I Love

CD
Better
Street of Dreams
Catcher
TWAT
Madagascar
This I Love
IRS
Sorry

I think those fit Slash's style the best, but I would love to hear him put his spin on something like Shackler's anytime.

Catcher In The Reye is perfect for Slash!!

These would be my choices, they seem better suited to his style than some of the other tracks.

TWAT is easily the best guitar song on that album, but very tough for Axl to sing live.

I really would love to hear his take on This I Love. And of course, Better and CD.

A Slash take on the guitar solo would sure be interesting!

I am honestly shocked that they played Better last night. Not only because of the guitar playing style but it seems like a real 3 guitar song. But I'm sure it's great or it wouldn't be in the set. I can't wait to hear it.

From what some guy said in his review, Richard took the Buckethead leads just fine. Aside from that, there is nothing Slash couldn't play there. And I do hope he got the chords right (Ashba used power chords instead of the original weird chords).

There was a time

I.R.S. - only heard it live once in 2006! Lovely
Scraped!

After reading the review where it seems like they may have taken the title track back to its 2001 roots, and considering the fact its one of my favorite GNR songs, that's definitely at the top of my list.

the blues, if the world, irs, twat & this i love

Better, TWAT, CD, TIL, & something new!

Well, the 2001 has different drums and tempo. I dont think it came back to that. I think it was just more straight foward punk.

The only CD songs I want to see Slash fuck with are...

This I Love
Chinese Democracy
Better
Madagascar

Otherwise it won't sound that good I don't think. I'd say "Sorry", but more than likely that song is about SLash right? lol

the end of Double Talkin' Jive into If The World would be pretty cool....

^awesome idea! i would love to see that!

Give me CITR or give me... something else. TWAT would be nice. I'd be cool with IRS, CD, The Blues.

REALLY want Prostitute but there's no way in hell that happens.

Please no This I Love. That's one I can do without. Now if it was part of a run of November Rain-Estranged-This I Love, okay fine, I could deal with it.

Love the DTJ-into-If The World idea.

Love the song.  One of my favorites on the album.

But given the lyrical content, I'm thinking its the second longest shot after 'Sorry', for the same reason.

I think IRS is about Stephanie.

would kill to hear Slash's take on TWAT...

I actually liked the more agressive raw guitar in the verse in the demo more.

It's still a good song for sure. The demo sounds like the way it should, the finished it kinda too refined.

Maybe that is because they had to re-re-record things?

AFD was pretty much 2-3 takes and see ya. That is why it is so special sounding I think.

It's really interesting what Slash could bringt into those songs. I am listening to ChiDem and I have his guitar playing style in mind.

I could never decide if it was about her or the band break-up.

'Sorry' is obviously the unquestioned song about that.  But the more I listened to 'I.R.S.', I wondered if that was too.

We do not know - and I personally do NOT care!
Great song - just play it!

I always though Sorry was about Slash...?

Like every word applies. Who knows.

So a while back I got the stems from when CD was released on Rock Band, and I re-recorded the guitar parts to most of the songs with more of a Slash tone and feel and it came out really good. I'm excited to hear him play on CD, Better, and hopefully something like SOD or Catcher as well.

Madagascar would be cool.

It was rumored to be one of the songs they've been rehearsing along with Chinese Democracy.

It could have been a wild guess too for all we know. They've done a good job keeping secrets these past months.  :)

I remember that. I miss being mad-at-nascar  :hihi:

I have the feeling that Madagascar is one of the more known songs of the album. What is your opinion?

I think Axl likes to sing the song, it's one of the first one's introduced in 2001. It's also the one they chose to do at the VMAs.

It would fit Slash as well.

I agree, if they play it i think they should give Richard the lead, and give Slash his spot on the Martin Luther King part.
Could be killer.

Yes! I would love to hear Slash do that solo during the MLK parts. 

I would love to hear slash play robins parts on twat.   Then for some reason special guest buckethead is there and plays his parts!    Epic!

madagascar or Catcher would be great

Yeah, Slash could play the guitar parts from Robin and Richard could play the guitar parts from Buckethead.