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Title: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: sky dog on January 06, 2016, 04:40:54 PM
Classic 5 played the first night of Coachella.....2nd night the first UYI lineup (Ax, Slash, Duff, Iz, Matt, Diz)....then, do the hybrid lineup with new music for a full on World Tour.....gotta think big....strike hard and fast....get everyone involved. One can dream.  :hihi:

There are a lot of possibilties out there which is why it is smart, for now, to withhold the full lineup for Coachella.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: estebanf on January 06, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
To be honest, I would like this to be the LAST lineup of the band. I want GNR to be a band, not some kind of NIN-ish thing.

Form one solid lineup, and fight to keep it till the end. That's the advise I would give to the band.

I hope this lineup works hard to create new music and focus in the future, not in the nostalgic past. Yeah, maybe im being too naive... a good hint to know if this is what the band plans will be Coachella's setlist.

- If they add 4/5 ChiDem songs and perform a new song:  :beer:
- If they play 1/2 ChiDem songs and no new songs:  ok...
- If they don't play ChiDem songs:  :crying:

If the third option happens, I will strongly start to believe that Axl has been cursed or someone stole his soul...


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: gcluskey on January 06, 2016, 05:37:57 PM
If they played Don't Damn Me


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: gcluskey on January 06, 2016, 05:39:26 PM
...and an acoustic version of My World XD


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: nick6sic6 on January 06, 2016, 06:01:12 PM
...they added Loco-freaking-motive in the set and Izzy with Steven would also be there.
Then solidify this sort-of hybrid (MK.whatever) lineup for whatever maybe next.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: Sosso on January 06, 2016, 06:06:23 PM
If they would play songs from every studio album, including Chinese Democracy.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: Thorned Rose on January 06, 2016, 06:08:16 PM
They need to pick a lineup and stick with it.

Toss in Adler or Izzy on occasion for some shows or encore areas.

Play minimal CD songs or play some new ones in their place or something. Axl/Slash/Duff/Izzy/Adler

No matter how you swing it, those 5 dudes ARE what Guns N' Roses will always be. People shit on Steven Adler like he's some horrible drummer. I personally prefer him very much over Matt Sorum. If I was Axl, I would go with Frank, but let Adler play every night 2-3 songs. Like one in the middle to rest Frank and the encore or something else. He deserves that.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: gcluskey on January 06, 2016, 06:08:44 PM
And some Back Off Bitch!! Play some of the amazing songs that never got played


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on January 06, 2016, 07:07:05 PM
Nope

My feeling only is that the diehards are cool with any of the above mentioned lineups..but this whole thing hopefully is here to re-introduce a mighty force in a rock world desperately in need of it....playing with 7 different lineup combinations would be confusing for those trying to see if Gn'r is really back for good



Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: Bazfreak on January 06, 2016, 07:32:55 PM
I feel it is more like a nostalgia thing...I dont expect new material or releases, Maybe some tours every once in a while for the next 5 years or something and then game over.

Todd Kerns posted a huge message on his Facebook, said that SMKC knew about the reunion for a long time and that they plan to record SMKC 3 and release around 2017. That implies that GNR wont be a full time job for Slash IMO.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: EmilyGNR on January 06, 2016, 09:10:37 PM
I feel it is more like a nostalgia thing...I dont expect new material or releases, Maybe some tours every once in a while for the next 5 years or something and then game over.

Todd Kerns posted a huge message on his Facebook, said that SMKC knew about the reunion for a long time and that they plan to record SMKC 3 and release around 2017. That implies that GNR wont be a full time job for Slash IMO.

I didn't get that meaning out of that post at all  ???


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: estebanf on January 06, 2016, 09:27:37 PM
I feel it is more like a nostalgia thing...I dont expect new material or releases, Maybe some tours every once in a while for the next 5 years or something and then game over.

Todd Kerns posted a huge message on his Facebook, said that SMKC knew about the reunion for a long time and that they plan to record SMKC 3 and release around 2017. That implies that GNR wont be a full time job for Slash IMO.

I didn't get that meaning out of that post at all  ???

I do get it. And if it's true, it's extremely sad :(


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: EmilyGNR on January 06, 2016, 09:29:37 PM
I feel it is more like a nostalgia thing...I dont expect new material or releases, Maybe some tours every once in a while for the next 5 years or something and then game over.

Todd Kerns posted a huge message on his Facebook, said that SMKC knew about the reunion for a long time and that they plan to record SMKC 3 and release around 2017. That implies that GNR wont be a full time job for Slash IMO.

I didn't get that meaning out of that post at all  ???

I do get it. And if it's true, it's extremely sad :(

Interpretations vary- I did not draw that conclusion at all.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: LIGuns on January 06, 2016, 10:02:57 PM
How about open with "Give me a little volume on this"/Hair of the Dog....


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: Gman84 on January 07, 2016, 05:48:57 AM
I feel it is more like a nostalgia thing...I dont expect new material or releases, Maybe some tours every once in a while for the next 5 years or something and then game over.

Todd Kerns posted a huge message on his Facebook, said that SMKC knew about the reunion for a long time and that they plan to record SMKC 3 and release around 2017. That implies that GNR wont be a full time job for Slash IMO.

That doesn't worry me because seeing how Slash is he likes to be active. If most of Spring/Summer 2016 is spent touring with Guns then he goes back to his own thing for a year then back to Guns that is probably Slash's ideal thing.  Guys like Fortus, Dizzy, Frank etc have had their own side projects going on outside of Guns for years and I don't see anything stopping Slash from doing a thing he obviously really enjoys - working with MK and the Conspirators.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: sky dog on January 07, 2016, 06:38:36 AM
Todd Kerns needs to realize that the Conspirator phase of Slash's career was left in Vegas on New Years..... :hihi:


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: otgm on January 07, 2016, 06:43:07 AM
To be honest, I would like this to be the LAST lineup of the band. I want GNR to be a band, not some kind of NIN-ish thing.

Form one solid lineup, and fight to keep it till the end. That's the advise I would give to the band.

I hope this lineup works hard to create new music and focus in the future, not in the nostalgic past. Yeah, maybe im being too naive... a good hint to know if this is what the band plans will be Coachella's setlist.

- If they add 4/5 ChiDem songs and perform a new song:  :beer:
- If they play 1/2 ChiDem songs and no new songs:  ok...
- If they don't play ChiDem songs:  :crying:

If the third option happens, I will strongly start to believe that Axl has been cursed or someone stole his soul...

I would be VERY surprised if they would play anything from CD. I don't think Slash's ego would let him play those songs.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: kukol1978 on January 07, 2016, 07:09:49 AM
To be honest, I would like this to be the LAST lineup of the band. I want GNR to be a band, not some kind of NIN-ish thing.

Form one solid lineup, and fight to keep it till the end. That's the advise I would give to the band.

I hope this lineup works hard to create new music and focus in the future, not in the nostalgic past. Yeah, maybe im being too naive... a good hint to know if this is what the band plans will be Coachella's setlist.

- If they add 4/5 ChiDem songs and perform a new song:  :beer:
- If they play 1/2 ChiDem songs and no new songs:  ok...
- If they don't play ChiDem songs:  :crying:

If the third option happens, I will strongly start to believe that Axl has been cursed or someone stole his soul...

I would be VERY surprised if they would play anything from CD. I don't think Slash's ego would let him play those songs.

Slash ego????? im sure that will be Slash himself who wil say "Hey Axl,theres that song that you recorded in CD,i love that one,yeah Street of dreams or maybe better too,we can play it during the shows,what do you think".

If this is a stable new line up,they will do songs from all eras.



Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on January 07, 2016, 07:40:15 AM
To be honest, I would like this to be the LAST lineup of the band. I want GNR to be a band, not some kind of NIN-ish thing.

Form one solid lineup, and fight to keep it till the end. That's the advise I would give to the band.

I hope this lineup works hard to create new music and focus in the future, not in the nostalgic past. Yeah, maybe im being too naive... a good hint to know if this is what the band plans will be Coachella's setlist.

- If they add 4/5 ChiDem songs and perform a new song:  :beer:
- If they play 1/2 ChiDem songs and no new songs:  ok...
- If they don't play ChiDem songs:  :crying:

If the third option happens, I will strongly start to believe that Axl has been cursed or someone stole his soul...

I would be VERY surprised if they would play anything from CD. I don't think Slash's ego would let him play those songs.

Slash ego????? im sure that will be Slash himself who wil say "Hey Axl,theres that song that you recorded in CD,i love that one,yeah Street of dreams or maybe better too,we can play it during the shows,what do you think".

If this is a stable new line up,they will do songs from all eras.



Probably not the song he would endorse

But I wouldn't rule out him playing on a couple of the tunes by any means


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: sky dog on January 07, 2016, 10:01:54 AM
My point was here...sort of...was to say if you contract Adler for one show....give him his day in the spotlight...then you don't need to mess with him anymore as far as guest appearances, etc. Same goes for Matt...and a much lesser extent Izzy. Izzy can do 2 full shows for God's sake. Let them have a day and then move forward with the hybrid lineup for a full on tour. It's really not that complicated and you kill a bunch of birds with one stone.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 07, 2016, 10:38:41 AM

My point was here...sort of...was to say if you contract Adler for one show....give him his day in the spotlight...then you don't need to mess with him anymore as far as guest appearances, etc. Same goes for Matt...and a much lesser extent Izzy. Izzy can do 2 full shows for God's sake. Let them have a day and then move forward with the hybrid lineup for a full on tour. It's really not that complicated and you kill a bunch of birds with one stone.


I agree with this.

Give them their moment at Coachella, and that's that.  Don't need them for a full tour.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: jazjme on January 07, 2016, 12:47:07 PM
To be honest, I would like this to be the LAST lineup of the band. I want GNR to be a band, not some kind of NIN-ish thing.

Form one solid lineup, and fight to keep it till the end. That's the advise I would give to the band.

I hope this lineup works hard to create new music and focus in the future, not in the nostalgic past. Yeah, maybe im being too naive... a good hint to know if this is what the band plans will be Coachella's setlist.

- If they add 4/5 ChiDem songs and perform a new song:  :beer:
- If they play 1/2 ChiDem songs and no new songs:  ok...
- If they don't play ChiDem songs:  :crying:

If the third option happens, I will strongly start to believe that Axl has been cursed or someone stole his soul...

I would be VERY surprised if they would play anything from CD. I don't think Slash's ego would let him play those songs.

And I dont think Axl will magically decide ok, that part of Guns history never happened!


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: otgm on January 08, 2016, 03:39:18 AM
For me none of the new songs are good enough to deserve a place in the setlist. There's whole of AFD, some songs from Lies and most of UYI's that I'd rather see them play. If they HAVE to play something from CD, I guess songs like Better, Chinese Democracy and Street Of Dreams would suit Slash the best.  They are closest to the classic rock sound of Guns N' Roses.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: jameslofton29 on January 08, 2016, 06:42:17 AM
I feel it is more like a nostalgia thing...I dont expect new material or releases, Maybe some tours every once in a while for the next 5 years or something and then game over.

Todd Kerns posted a huge message on his Facebook, said that SMKC knew about the reunion for a long time and that they plan to record SMKC 3 and release around 2017. That implies that GNR wont be a full time job for Slash IMO.

I didn't get that meaning out of that post at all  ???

I do get it. And if it's true, it's extremely sad :(

Interpretations vary- I did not draw that conclusion at all.
Same here. Besides, they had plans to do the album in 2016. Now its been pushed to 2017. Wouldn't take much to do that again.



My point was here...sort of...was to say if you contract Adler for one show....give him his day in the spotlight...then you don't need to mess with him anymore as far as guest appearances, etc. Same goes for Matt...and a much lesser extent Izzy. Izzy can do 2 full shows for God's sake. Let them have a day and then move forward with the hybrid lineup for a full on tour. It's really not that complicated and you kill a bunch of birds with one stone.
This is a great point.


I would be VERY surprised if they would play anything from CD.
When the reunion hoopla first started I thought this as well. Pitman's inclusion shows they are either doing CD and/or CD II. You don't need him there for Think About You.


For me none of the new songs are good enough to deserve a place in the setlist. There's whole of AFD, some songs from Lies and most of UYI's that I'd rather see them play.
I get what you're saying(to a degree) but if they are moving forward and its not just a nostalgia tour, I don't see the need to avoid the Chinese era.

If this was being pushed as an AFD shindig then yeah....drop Chinese.  It isn't being pushed as that so expect a Chinese buffet of sorts. Pitman's involvement shows that all options are currently on the table. I know some fans minimize his contributions but I think its telling that he is being included. He also seems excited about it. A happy Pitman mentioning how creative of a year it was might make a happy fan base.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: raindog on January 08, 2016, 06:58:13 AM
Weird how some things seem to point to this reunion being in the pipeline for a long while but some others, notably Slash seemingly originally planning to spend this year touring a new album of his own seem to point the other way.


Title: Re: Wouldn't It Be Neat If...Then
Post by: Voodoochild on January 08, 2016, 07:35:38 AM
I would be VERY surprised if they would play anything from CD.
When the reunion hoopla first started I thought this as well. Pitman's inclusion shows they are either doing CD and/or CD II. You don't need him there for Think About You.
You do need him for Illusions songs like November Rain, for the synth orchestra and FX. That's why they had Teddy Zig Zag.


For me none of the new songs are good enough to deserve a place in the setlist. There's whole of AFD, some songs from Lies and most of UYI's that I'd rather see them play.
I get what you're saying(to a degree) but if they are moving forward and its not just a nostalgia tour, I don't see the need to avoid the Chinese era.

If this was being pushed as an AFD shindig then yeah....drop Chinese.  It isn't being pushed as that so expect a Chinese buffet of sorts. Pitman's involvement shows that all options are currently on the table. I know some fans minimize his contributions but I think its telling that he is being included. He also seems excited about it. A happy Pitman mentioning how creative of a year it was might make a happy fan base.  :hihi:
Good point. I think it shows how Chinese is not off the table.

Also, I think that new GNR slot machine tracklist and the Coachella's press release are a pretty good hint: Chinese Democracy is not forgotten.