Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Do you think if this were true, they'd write from scratch,  or use 2 of Axls 2nd CD songs and simply re-record the parts?

Too hard too say.
I'd prefer if it was a start from scratch job personally

What was the source? Metal sludge?

Someone in another thread said they had seen photos of Slash and Richard in the studio (not the same photo though). Anyone have those photos?


We don't know how long Slash and Axl have been in contact... maybe they've talked, met for over a year. Could have already written songs maybe?

I think the last point is probably more true than any of us realise.

Well, if Axl announces both a tour and an album on Kimmel, that would be fantastic. Unfortunately I'd never get to hear the album or see the tour however, as I would immediately shit my pants and die.

Honestly I think a new hits compilation with a new song or two or a reissued Appetite with bonus tracks is a far, far more likely prospect to support the tour. Why? Because why not. It's a damn sight easier to make and put out and it will sell just as well as a new album would.

I would like to know the actual source for this rumor.

Is it wishful thinking or somebody who supposedly knows something?



/jarmo

Not sure, but personally have felt that this is not about a ca$h grab (only) and that the music had to work for both guys to bury the past and move forward into a new chapter....so even if just a rumor, I was expecting and very hopeful that they were already working on new ideas...and could possibly have been so quiet because of this.

Lets say fun speculation, they do a couple new songs for a different, more authorized greatest hits release, to coincide w tour.

I can see that being plausible. Only need a few new songs that wouldn't take long like a whole new album would. Or do an anniversary re release. AFD is 30 next year.

My feeling is that another greatest hits album is far from their plans. Doesn't seem to fit with the buzz and energy being generated.

Does anyone actually read threads before they reply to them?  ???

They don't need albums anymore. Just release two new songs on Spotify and that would generate enough buzz.

Things are looking up for sure!

Well they did record 12 songs in 1996, so there you go.

I can't be sure but it might have spawned from this guy that posted a picture of himself with both Richard and Slash and claimed to have worked with them both. There is a nearly 400 page thread at another forum that linked to his pictures and corresponding facebook profile. Everything on his page is in Swedish (wish I knew someone who could read it...) so it's tough for me to tell if there is something else on his profile that says he works a petrol station or something like that making it obvious he is lying... I'm not sure thought if this is a chicken or the egg situation. Did he start the rumor or is he trying to validate the rumor.

Seeing as it is the only rumor coming out of the last few days that hasn't been 'confirmed' by Billboard, The NYT, or Rolling Stone it is obviously much less likely to be true...

We'll all see next week what is really happening (or not happening).

I can speak that language.... And read it.

 ;)



/jarmo

Now you're just showing off...

Would be great if they jammed something out.  I bet they could come up with something good quickly. 

Maybe also use an older song they all knew well, and never finished.  Or one of the hundreds of songs Axl has written over the past 20 years. 

Plus you have the comments from Richard saying they had worked on material from back when Slash was in the band, or however he phrased it. Like you said, who knows how long this has all been going on. Could they have been secretly working together for longer than we started hearing the rumors? Anything seems possible.

By the way, the guy is a Norwegian comedian.



/jarmo

I've missed this.. who?

I bet one of them is 'Estranged no more'  ;D

I DONT want another damn greatest hits.  Boring!

Exactly

That's why I needed a translator...

Kristian V.

No need to promote the guy any more than that.  :P



/jarmo

Ah ok. Thanks.

It is possible they worked up two "old" new songs. Slash in August 1996 said that between himself, Axl and Slash they had written "around 80" new songs. Could be possible there was say an instrumental track circa 1994-96, have Axl throw lyrics over it and whoever is on rhythm now dub in a new rhythm track.

I'm thinking they've got tons of stuff from back in the day that they could work with and have enough for a full album in no time if they wanted. Albums may not be necessary as people are saying, but if a reunited Guns N' Roses released an album it would be huge and totally a great idea.

I'd take that figure with a grain of salt. Well, not so much a grain as a mine. At the time the band was falling apart they were working on a number of songs that would dwarf their entire released discography? Doesn't seem particularly likely.

for sure

Yeah, I wouldn't trust much of what this guy has to say.

Read that as well..Who knows e validity..Could be something from "CDII" an unused "Contributors" song, or unfinished material from the 90's......Or a Mot?rhead cover...

I had no idea about this. He is rather famous Norwegian though, and have met Slash a few times over the years. I think they live in the same neighborhood also?
Doesn't mean its true, but it sure is no nobody claiming this...
Time will tell.

-Eirik

He did a Gn'R imitation years ago. He also has recorded some pop music on his own. That pic with Richard is from one of those sessions, from spring 2014. Don't have anything to do with new guns songs whatsoever.

Exactly. Two photos and some see things they want to and make up rumors based on it.




/jarmo

I think we just take the tour and enjoy it.

We're already playing with house money here.

It originated from the CEO at Metal Sludge(Stevie Rachelle)


Rumormill ? Merry Christmas to everyone, and what better present to give all of you than some insider news fresh out of our inbox about the fever pitch Guns N? Roses rumors.

On Christmas Day we at Metal Sludge did an update based on the recent changes to the official Guns N? Roses website. Read about that here.

GNR_2016_5Now today according to a industry insider ?Guns N? Roses will be in Los Angeles signing working agreements (contracts)? in early January for their (alleged) reunion and up coming tour dates.

The insider who has life-long ties to countless artists has also tipped off Metal Sludge that the band will be ?going to the studio to cut 1 or 2 new songs? in the early part of 2016.

The source also informed us that ?announcements as well? are in the works and on the way soon.

Lastly the insider also notes it?s going to be the ?half and half (reunion) lineup that?s been reported.?

According to other rumors and posts across the web like the popular MyGNRForum online forum it has been noted the band will feature original core members Axl Rose (Vocals), Slash (Lead Guitar) and Duff McKagan (Bass). The rumors are also noting that longtime friend and currently the longest standing member of the band (aside from Rose) Dizzy Reed (Keyboards) will also be involved.

The group is also rumored to include Richard Fortus (Guitar) and Frank Ferrer (Drums).



http://metalsludge.tv/wow-insider-reveals-alleged-details-of-guns-n-roses-reunion/

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It spread like wildfire from there.

The Stones are famous for tossing a new song or two on yet some other repackaged retrospective before a tour.  And then play a new song (or two) on said tour.

Happened with 'Forty Licks' in 2002, when 'Don't Stop' was in the setlist.

Happened in 2013 with 'GRRRR!' when 'Doom & Gloom' was in that setlist.

Doom & Gloom kicked ten tons of ass.


I agree that if 1-2 new songs are in the pipeline it'll be for a GH/Best of set. They need a proper one anyways.  They didn't support the old one and rightfully so.

Yeah, I really dug it.  Very clever lyrics.

Every quote from that era, especially 1995 to 1996, suggested they had definitely 14 songs written, with 7 songs totally recorded (sans Axl vocals) before Slash left.
Add into this the demos done in the months Zakk Wylde was sorta a member, add in the dozen songs Izzy and Duff did in a one week stretch in April 1995. According to Marc Canter, Izzy also brought in around 50 songs for Guns to use in the summer of 1996.

Fortus himself said some of the newer songs date back to Slash.

50 riffs, maybe.

90s or a tad more recent?  :nervous:

Always wondered if when Slash was writing guitar parts for his various albums, if he came across a riff or two that he sort of tucked away....just in case

Isn't "Down by the Ocean" supposed to be a finished song?

"In '95, Duff and me recorded songs for the band. We made a tape that went nowhere. Then, a couple of months ago I have a message on my answering machine: 'Yo! It's Axl, I need a copy of the songs that you did.' There was one called 'Down by the Ocean' or 'Down by the Sea', they may have used it, I haven't come back to know nothing." (Izzy, Popular Magazine, 2001)

Some think the Izzy song 'Box' is Down By The Ocean....

He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down off the main road by the hill
Takes what he finds and eats it right there
Makes what he can with what he will
He don't ride the bus
They don't let him drive
There he walks for miles, a day
Cause he ain't got no ride
He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down by the sea side at the hill
Palm trees it ain't the beauty look, good though
Eventhough he looks pretty ill
He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down by the sea side at the hill
Palm trees it ain't the beauty look, good though
Eventhough he looks pretty ill
He lives in a box down by the ocean
Down by the sea side at the hill
Palm trees it ain't the beauty look, good though
Eventhough he looks pretty ill


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM-oJzwVWtE&feature=youtu.be

Maybe this got tucked away...

"I think that some of the riffs that were coming out of [Slash in the '96 sessions] were the meanest, most contemporary, bluesiest, rocking thing since Aerosmith?s Rocks... I wanted to put that record together...  by [1996], we would have put it out."


"The day after Rock In Rio [01/16/01,] Axl and I were at the pool... [Axl] saying to me "If Slash apologizes publicly for the things he said about me in the press I have 3 songs that he could play on the new album". They were 3 songs that Slash had written on and Axl wanted to do something with them and include them on Chinese Democracy." -


"The band managed to do a little bit of jamming and come up with some things. A couple of the ideas I had come up with Axl apparently liked and they were recorded onto Pro Tools and stored for him to work on later." (Slash, autobiography)

"We hadn't written songs or recorded for many years. There were band changes and there were many changes in the record company. [...] When we tried writing songs in the old style of Guns N' Roses, they sounded too old, they didn't sound so alive. We could not make that. And I think that that also passed with the old Guns N' Roses. The songs composed by the boys for another album many years ago, everything sounded old. Then we tried to explore to maintain the band alive." (Axl, Rock & Pop FM, 01/22/01)

"[The 1996 tracks are] not something I would want to approach (without Slash), because, at the time, there was only one person that I knew who could do certain riffs that way. [...] That's the reason why that material got scrapped.

I would be interested in new material. Realistically though, tackling a giant world tour and seeing how they vibe makes a big difference. Everyone remember most accounts from the UYI tours? Axl would ride by himself while the rest of the band was together? Fast forward to the store of Axl in Miami Beach riding on a mechanical bull and how that was a rare moment, Axl hanging out with the band out and about. I think Axl spends a lot of time alone, making song writing sessions a little difficult.

Very possible.

Crash Diet? Bring it Back home?

Anyone?????  :o

Cheers.

So it started there and then people saw two photos and assumed they were related to this rumor.



/jarmo

The comedian claims to know even more about it

The way Metal Sludge seems to work, is their 'insider' the first post of this comedians picture on a message board? Like I said earlier, it's sort what came first the chicken or the egg... Did the rumor start when metal sludge reported it and the pictures were 'used' to 'prove' the rumor... or did the pictures start the rumor and Metal Sludge ran with it?

I would say the first option. They say the band would still hit the studios in January and also mentioned contract works.

There has been some not so subtle hints on another board that Slash has already been in studio working on GNR songs.

I pretty much read everything on the web GNR related like most of you probably. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Richard Fortus mention something about working on old Slash work for GNR a handful of months ago before reunion rumors?

Yeah, definitely. In the 1980s and 1990s for sure!

Oh, you didn't mean that.....  :rofl:



/jarmo

LOL well done sir,well done!! ;D

Well I believe the person who posted has proven before to post things regarding Slash that turned out to be accurate. Has direct contact .. I think.

But yes ur crack was amusing.

Well, it's all possible. I didn't see the post or know the poster.

It's just that at this particular time, there seems to be a lot of people who suddenly "know" all kinds of stuff so you gotta be careful who and what you believe in.




/jarmo

Where r the quotes from 1996 riffs  from? Anyone recall?

Its pretty customary to tour behind SOMETHING. So why not double dip and sell a more authorized best of, with a couple brand new songs as the selling point? Plus gives 2 new songs to play live also and extend the setlist if they don't want to revisit every AFD song or some of the UYI stuff.

right now, I'd guess the label is far more accommodating to GnR than they have been in the last 10-15 years. there is an opportunity like no other time in the last 10 years or so to make money from GnR. I think a GH would be a waste, but if that is what it takes to get a new song or two, i'll take it. dying to hear more music from Axl, and if it is Axl/Slash.....holy shit!!!  since Richard and others have mentioned new music and there's been mention of songs slash had input on, I think there's a good chance we get a song or two.

I have a tiny bit of hope that we get a full release. if CD II songs were truly ready to go, and this reunion has been in the works for several months (some reports are now saying years), and some songs are from years ago that slash had actually worked on, and the label sees this is as good a time as ever to make money from a release, maybe it happens. slash could have easily worked on any number of songs in the last few months. and maybe the album is called "Guns N Roses" and there are songs developed during the last 15+ years and includes all guitarists.

Axl and Slash are back together.....anything is fucking possible!!!  :beer:

I'd be happy with two new songs and more than excited but in my opinion these bonus tracks are only perceived as pretty randomly bonustracks. I'd rather have an full album than two tracks in advance.
when VR released Set me Free and Slither they felt like fillersongs on Contraband.

I get the desire to hear the music we have been told about for the last 15 years... three albums worth... blah blah blah...

I just don't think it makes any sense for the reformed band or the label to release material primarily written and recorded by a lineup doesn't exist anymore and really has no public support. Outside of the hardcore fans of these boards it's not like anyone is asking for it. The label's best bang for their buck and the best way to draw interest around this tour is a retrospective package that Axl Duff and Slash work on and agree on, the hope is that it would give us a new song or two and maybe make more commercially available to the general public songs that were b sides or never saw the light of day (like the Don't Cry Demo, Shadow of Your Love, Crash Diet, etc...)

The other option would be to record the rehearsal process for Coachella and the possible work on new tracks for a documentary released after Coachella but before the tour dates. Similar to the special created during the making of Velvet Revolver. This gives us the chance at seeing one on one interviews with the members about how this got off the ground. It would be very interesting to hear from Frank and Richard (assuming they are in, we'll see Tuesday).

CDII (or what ever it is called) can see the light of day after this all gets off the ground... once the label is happy, Axl will probably get more flexibility and will be able to get what he wants out of it without getting his hand forced by the label. Look at the Spaghetti Incident, do you think they would let Axl release that in 2010? No, that was the product of following Appetite, Lies, and the Illusions... GnR could have recorded 45 minutes worth of farts and Geffen was going to happily release it.

Yeah, but when you have the biggest reunion in years happening, do you really need that?
Obviously the record company probably wouldn't mind repackaging another compilation.

I still think it'd be cool if they instead released the second half of Chinese.... And no, it wouldn't bother me if the band on tour isn't the same as the one that recorded those tracks.  :)



/jarmo

 I would really LOVE to hear the second half of Chinese! :beer:

Does not bother me in the slightest, and I don?t think the reunion will prohibit its release.  Honestly, now is probably the best time to release it.  If the label is interested in maximizing revenue (hint: they are) strike while the iron is hot.  With all the attention Guns has gotten in these last few weeks, this renewed interest alone will help drive sales.  If Slash and Duff added some parts, even better (but not really necessary, IMO).  CDII presumably has Axl on vocals, that?s really all you need.

That's exactly my point.




/jarmo

Correct.

Of all the people that will tune in to see Axl tomorrow night, how many will be doing so saying, "man, I hope he gives us an update on 'Atlas Shrugged'!!"?

True. Add to the fact that the money is made in touring these days, not album sales. So I doubt Slash, Duff, etc. would mind if they're making loads of cash touring around the release of an album that was worked on without them. And IF the Chinese leftovers were released, it's entirely possible that they could work up a few songs with Slah, Duff, etc. to include on the album. Anything is possible, and I now say that with a renewed sense of optimism.  :peace:

I would like them to release a Best Of box set type of deal. I don't see why not?

I'm sure they've got several songs from their 94-96 era, so just get 2 of those or just make up 2 more?

Do a 2 disc definitive BEST OF, and the 3rd disc could be a live cd of 14 tracks or something. Or just make the 3rd disc demos from the 94-96 era. That would be pretty incredible.

The 1st GH album that no one wanted to come out when it did does get all the "greatest hits". So that album is perfect for the "hit" songs.

A best of would be fantastic. It would have to be 2 discs and AT LEAST 22 songs in total. 22 or 24 I think. I don't see why not? But as some of you have already said, they don't need to do this right now... the reunion tour should be more than enough for now.

There's so many things they could do to market this, and really bring back some good memories and rock n roll man. I hope they do the most with this. The 3rd disc in a box set is probably just wishful thinking. I could see them doing a best of with 2 new songs though

If they were to release CD 2 before/during a reunion tour, I'd be thrilled.  I guess its possible we're going to see a reunion because this is what it took to get label support to promote CD 2 material.  However, would the public/media consider it false advertising if they release new material that doesn't have Slash and Duff on it?

I want the "perfect song"! Coma

If CD2 was released as is while a reunion tour was going on, I'd be very surprised indeed. CD2 with Slash adding a few parts, perhaps, but still seems unlikely. A reunion tour just seems to say 'this is the real Guns N' Roses and that wasn't'. Not my personal belief but I'm sure that's how a lot of people will see it. For Slash and Duff to effectively tour CD2 would seem an almost extraordinarily generous gesture on their part.

I think we can agree one thing for sure - the label are going to want to put something out. Whichever way you slice it a reunion tour (unless it's in support of a completely new album) is a mining of the past so some sort of retrospective release is both the most natural and the easiest thing to do, not to mention a guaranteed seller. A box set would be nice too. All the albums remastered with CD2 in there as well as getting a separate standalone release? Now that would be a dream scenario. The perfect thing to support a tour by a hybrid lineup. "Here it is, all of Guns N' Roses. Past meets present". Oh and throw in the Perfect Crime documentary while you're at it. ;)

You never know. If I was a betting man though, my money would be on 2-disc hits compilation with a couple of new songs.

Coma always embodied everything I adore about this band! Just play it live - I would sell body parts to
hear this live!!!

So would I, about 2-5,000,000 little swimmers   ;D

I know I want to hear it too (whether Slash and Duff get a crack at them or not) I just don't see how it doesn't cause confusion. I also don't see how it doesn't get at least some negative feedback from rock stations on terrestrial and satellite radio plus the typical entertainment websites. It will be looked at as a huge bait and switch. People are finally getting what they view as the core of Guns N Roses back, yet they are going to get an album with guitar tracks featuring people named Buckethead and Bumblefoot... plus once it gets released and the CD Era fans listen too it, they are going to have their favorite tracks, and here comes the setlist whinning when the reformed lineup doesn't play Atlas Shrugged or the General in concert... ever.

I think it should see the light of day, I just think they need to get this all off the ground first.

They finally have what seems like a fresh start, they can put a plan together, execute on it, and build momentum. Suddenly throwing a album with tracks that could be anywhere between 15 and 2 years old featuring people that have been potentially gone for more than a decade just seems like a distraction more than anything.

Edit: the only way this makes sense is that Axl already has buyoff from the label and this thing hits iTunes tomorrow live while he's on Kimmel. He announces the reformed lineup, thanks the various members of the CD Era, and says "to close this chapter out, I am releasing everything we worked on... I have spent every waking moment since leaving Vegas getting these buttoned up. I hope you like it and appreciate the talented people who stood with me over the last several years helping me get to this point."

Well said, agree with all of that.

People aren't going to pay $275 to hear stuff that didn't make the cut for the last album.  Be serious, folks.

Why do we care so much as to who writes what songs. In the pop music world alot of the songs these pop artists sing are written by other people but you never hear people saying oh how can this artist sing someone else's songs. If Axl, Slash n Duff got together and said lets see how these songs sound with you guys on them and thats what they end up deciding to do are we really going to say NO DONT DO THAT.

It may not be that "It didn't make the cut" it may be that it was saved for the next album.

A little positivity goes a long way.

To answer the concern that releasing 'old, new' songs would be a bad idea, maybe getting Slash and Duff on these tracks is the ideal solution.

For all we know that's exactly what's been going on for the last few months.

I am SO excited and pumped for the reunion, but I think a release immediately before would be a dream scenario. Striking while the iron is hot applies well here imo.

But the majority of people going to see this tour don't give a damn about any of that stuff. 

Its why GNR has been playing clubs, but now they are talking stadiums.  Its not because all sorts of people are suddenly into the NuGNR experience.

Reunion tours are about nostalgia and going with what you know.  Especially at those prices.

It would be absolutely wonderful if Axl goes on the show and pulls the trigger on a new album there and then. Loathe as I am to make the comparison, something like Miley Virus did recently. Boom. It's here. But I have a hard time believing something wouldn't have leaked out if that was going on. Besides we have enough hopes up as it is!

I'm just looking forward to seeing Axl and hope he's got some great news for us, whatever it is. At least I'm trying to keep my expectations to that.

But would it be released as is, or have Duff and Slash re-record and put their own parts down?

No idea.
The only reason it makes sense to me is that it's done and it would make sense to "strike while the iron is hot".

And for all those using the "it's not the same band touring that recorded it". You said that in 2009.  :hihi:




/jarmo

As much as I've wanted a reunion i want to hear the rest of those recordings badly. Hopeful somehow both can happen.

For all we know it could be a hybrid with Songs written by Slash/Duff Axl AND Fortus/Chris /Ferrer. That would be amazing. Abit of everything

The majority of people going to Coachella, or any shows announced for a tour beyond that, will be buying tickets without any idea what the setlist will be anyway. They're being sold on a reunion and nostalgia factor, yes, but it doesn't mean new material should be out of the question. A couple of new songs aren't going to make or break anything.

If I am in a stadium with 40,000 other people that sprung for triple digit tickets, I'm not sure how many of them would swap out a classic GNR tune for some tune Axl, Robin Finck, and Paul Huge wrote in 2004.

Honestly, I'm not all that sure they would be all that excited for a new song from Axl, Slash, and Duff.  Been to many a Rolling Stones concert where the new songs play to crickets.  But 'Sympathy For the Devil' and 'Tumblin Dice' have people dancing in the aisles.

Anything unfamiliar is always met with that reaction.
Doesn't matter who wrote the song.


/jarmo

That doesn't stop the Stones from playing one or two new songs. It doesn't (and shouldn't) stop any band. You have to cater to ALL your fans, not just the casual ones. Guns often play three hour shows, including covers. There's plenty of room in the setlist for a couple new tracks. And yes, some people will use it to hit the beer lines, and so be it. If they're playing 20 songs, you're still getting 18 hits.

So should a band stop creating new music then? Seems like we were having quite the opposite argument not too long ago.

If they've worked on new songs and want to share a few of them, that's what they'll do. People can use that time to head for a beer or to run to the bathroom. Happens all the time.

Whenever the Stones do a new song, I always try to remain standing and see who joins me.  Or who else knows the words.

Funniest example had to be the 'Voodoo Lounge' tour.  After Keith's songs, they do 'Love Is Strong', the lead single from that album.  LOVE that song.  No reaction.

The next song?  'Monkey Man', a deep album cut from 1969's 'Let It Bleed'.  People stood back up.

Funny and depressing at the same time, I found.

No, that's not what I meant.
My reply was in reference to the idea that people wouldn't like something written/recorded by some other people than the ones on stage. Or just released and unknown to the majority of the audience.

It's always been the case that anything not familiar, is met with something like "I wish they had played (something I know) instead"...




/jarmo

Depends who we are talking about.

Circa 2014, people still got VERY upset if you said they weren't a viable band and just a touring one.  All that bought you was reposted quotes from Axl's internet chats...in 2008, mind you...that was supposed to dispel any doubt about where things stood, 6 years later.  With no sign of progress.

This though, this probably is just a touring configuration, at least right now.  I don't think any of us really expect new tunes from this line-up, a line-up we don't even fully know yet.

if the stones play new music, than I think it's a good idea.

the problem is probably that the stones haven't written a great song in over 30 years. GnR doesn't have that problem. a new song from Axl/slash/duff would kick major ass - they're the greatest writers of hard rock music in history.

That question wasn't directed at you jarmo. It was to DX, who did reply. Sorry for the confusion.

Color me gullible, but I would expect new music if some of the newer members are still involved. I'd have less hope for new music if this was strictly a reunion, if that makes any sense. Why keep Frank, Richard, and Pitman around if they aren't focused on the future? Again, I could be totally off base thinking that, but that's my viewpoint right now.

But do you think Richard or Frank is back if Izzy were interested or Steven was at all reliable?

I tend to think they are there out of necessity more than anything, no?

I would certainly hope that's the goal... at the same time I can't fault Axl for keeping the three of them around even if this is a purely touring band. They are hugely talented, fit in very well with the classic members from a playing style perspective, and are reliable (more so than Izzy and or Steven, and with Izzy I just mean his desire to tour the world).

Pitman, oddly enough, might be the tell that they either plan on playing CD material or new material. Because do you even need him for the older stuff? Dizzy sure, and Richard if Izzy's not back, but I don't see Pitman being needed outside of new era stuff.

Any concert where "baby-boomers" are the main demographic is ALWAYS depressing.  I had someone yell at me to sit down the last time I saw Aerosmith.  A Stones show to those old farts might as well be a night at the Opera.

On topic: I think new music is coming, and sooner than most think.  Whatever form it takes is anyone's guess, but I agree with Jarmo that they will likely strike while the iron's hot.

Even one new Rose-Hudson-McKagan song would be amazing.

Think how much we would all play it over and over.

Would be like the summer I wore out my 'You Could Be Mine' / 'Civil War' cassingle.

Yeah, I said it : CASSINGLE

I would be glad if they were to release some or all of the unreleased CD material including new recordings by Slash and Duff. In theory, the recording lineup would then be pretty close to the rumored hybrid lineup, not that it matters though.

Would be more excited if they were to release the hypothetical Chinese Democracy 2 alongside the new lineup touring Coachella etc. I'm more keen on new music though so I'm probably in a minority.

I think Richard would be in with or without Izzy because 3 guitars.  No Izzy probably means adding DK, if the rumors are true.

As for Adler, is it just reliability?  I'm not a drummer but it seems far from certain that he has the chops to play non-AFD material.  Look, I loved him on AFD, but his rep as a drummer beyond that is suspect.

I think you may very well get what you're looking for.  The last half of 2015 for these guys have been filled with harmless deceits and half truths.  Slash devoting 2016 to the next Conspirator's album. Yeah, not so much.  Duff and Izzy in the studio this past fall for an upcoming Duff "solo" project.  Let's just see about that.  

Point is, if Axl Rose & Slash can arrange the miracle that is the two of them appearing onstage together again, despite all odds, I'm going to go ahead and say anything goes from here on.

I'm right with you on that.  But we have people that will take you into the Thunderdome over his being able to do it.

Great points in that first paragraph.

As for the second, all bets are off as far as I'm concerned in this business.  Axl & Slash patching up was my gold standard of impossibility.

Now?  Pitch me something wacky.  I can't dismiss it.

Yeah, if Adler is in fact involved, it will likely be a Mick Taylor type situation where he pounds out the same 2-3 Appetite songs every night until he ODs. ::KIDDING!!::

Maybe they could put the next release on 8-track....



/jarmo

Guns last toured in mid 2014, who would've thought then that just one year later Axl & Slash would be planning a reunion?  The answer is not many, myself included.

So why the hell not a new album in 2016 with Slash & Duff's fingerprints also on it?

That's how we got 'Compton' from Dr. Dre.  Dude fucked around with 'Detox' for over a decade.

Then, one day, decided it just wasn't very good despite all the tinkering in the world.  Scrapped it.  And banged out an entirely new album with all differnet people very quickly.

Didn't a lot of these rumours start in Vegas last year?

If this week has taught us anything, it's that when there is smoke, it's okay to entertain the idea that a fire is burning somewhere.  GNR fans know better than to bite the hook right away, especially when initially all we had to go on in reality was that Slash said he and Axl had patched things up and spoken on some level.  That was literally it until BAM...

Hopefully the same goes for these 2 (or more) new songs rumors with Slash & Duff.

Maybe within Guns, but the only rumors I recall was that Axl was "disbanding" that incarnation of GNR after Vegas. Which was a half truth, at best.

Check you calendar. You might have to turn the page.
2014 wasn't last year. ;)



/jarmo

Hahahaha it's all been a blur to myself

I don't know if this bears any significance, but Axl is no longer listed as an ASCAP composer. Not sure if he's switched to BMI or SESAC?

This change must have been quite recently, as I quite regularly check the database in hope of finding new song registrations.

Black Frog Music is still an ASCAP publisher. Also, I firmly believe that the entity Guns N Roses Music Publishing (Axl, Slash, Duff I think) was listed under the ASCAP directory before, but now it's not.