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Title: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: cwidene on December 29, 2015, 11:50:54 PM
So I have seen all the tour rumors but one theme I don't like is Izzy wont be on tour. Anyone know why? His choice? Band doesn't want him. Just curious.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: Spirit on December 29, 2015, 11:55:01 PM
No line-up has been announced.

Nobody knows for sure. Izzy chose to leave during the UYI tour because he thought it was too big, remember.

Axl has previously said that for a full scale tour with the old guys, Duff and Slash would be the reliable ones. It seems like that's what's happening now.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: DexterWRose on December 29, 2015, 11:56:09 PM
Pretty sure Izzy and the guys are probably on good terms. I would imagine it has to do why he left in the first place. He didn't want to be a rock star. He just wanted to write some tunes and play music. The whole biggest band in the world thing was never his thing. He doesn't want to tour. I would imagine he would be up for playing a couple shows here and there... Just like the last few years with the New Guns.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: cwidene on December 29, 2015, 11:58:26 PM
Well I will have to be on stand by to see what shows he 'attends'.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 29, 2015, 11:59:29 PM
If this comes together, its going to be big from every angle.  Big news, big attention, big crowds,...bi everything.

Which is like, everything Izzy hates.  A stadium tour to him is probably like torture.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: Spirit on December 30, 2015, 12:00:05 AM
Well I will have to be on stand by to see what shows he 'attends'.

Ok.

If the previous years are any measure, I don't think you'll get a heads up on that.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: dmathski on December 30, 2015, 12:04:19 AM
Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: Spirit on December 30, 2015, 12:08:11 AM
Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw

Yeah, touring in itself wasn't a problem. He just liked it scaled down.

If the current rumors are true... It doesn't seem very scaled down.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: dmathski on December 30, 2015, 12:10:16 AM
Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw

Yeah, touring in itself wasn't a problem. He just liked it scaled down.

If the current rumors are true... It doesn't seem very scaled down.

Wonder how much he likes money at this point...


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: Spirit on December 30, 2015, 12:12:58 AM
Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw

Yeah, touring in itself wasn't a problem. He just liked it scaled down.

If the current rumors are true... It doesn't seem very scaled down.

Wonder how much he likes money at this point...

Do you think that's changed since 1991? If I could guess, I think he's comfortable economically.

If he liked money more than happiness, he wouldn't have quit in 1991.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: dmathski on December 30, 2015, 12:16:29 AM
Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw

Yeah, touring in itself wasn't a problem. He just liked it scaled down.

If the current rumors are true... It doesn't seem very scaled down.

Wonder how much he likes money at this point...

Do you think that's changed since 1991? If I could guess, I think he's comfortable economically.

If he liked money more than happiness, he wouldn't have quit in 1991.

I just say that because people change, circumstances change. A lot can change in 25 years


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: Spirit on December 30, 2015, 12:17:40 AM
Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw

Yeah, touring in itself wasn't a problem. He just liked it scaled down.

If the current rumors are true... It doesn't seem very scaled down.

Wonder how much he likes money at this point...

Do you think that's changed since 1991? If I could guess, I think he's comfortable economically.

If he liked money more than happiness, he wouldn't have quit in 1991.

I just say that because people change, circumstances change. A lot can change in 25 years

When did Izzy last tour?


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 30, 2015, 12:25:08 AM

Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw


Man, I miss the MTV of my youth.

Just hearing Kurt Loder's voiceover here again is cool.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: Booker Floyd on December 30, 2015, 12:52:37 AM
He's been retired for 25 years. I'm sure he'll do the obligatory handful of guest appearances.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: slashsbaconpit on December 30, 2015, 01:09:33 AM
They're protecting the secrets more than JJ protected Force Awakens spoilers!


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: raindog on December 30, 2015, 02:13:18 AM
He's been retired for 25 years. I'm sure he'll do the obligatory handful of guest appearances.

This.

Izzy doesn't like doing big tours. I doubt football stadiums are going to lure him back.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: NaturalLight on December 30, 2015, 02:25:48 AM

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Hahahaha. This comment literally made me laugh out loud.

Everyone seems so eager to count this guy out. If the rumors are true - and at this point details are still sketchy - then it's 25 freakin shows.

I think the main issue might be whether he wants to bother rehearsing, relearning the songs, etc.

But, like you said, money fucking talks.

Now, me personally, I think he'll show up for a few shows and do a few songs. But I wouldn't automatically write him off.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: ben9785 on December 30, 2015, 02:33:24 AM
He will probably appear on occasion, a few songs here and there, like he's done in preceding years.

Good on him if he doesn't feel like he wants to be part of it for the whole haul - just remember though that nothing has been announced..


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: LIGuns on December 30, 2015, 06:34:56 AM
I wonder if Izzy would return if he reunion were just a run of "25" Football Stadiums in the summer? I'm guessing hockey arenas in the winter followed by a world tour...


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: TokyoRose on December 30, 2015, 06:47:46 AM
Remember when Izzy did a run with GNR sometime over the last decade Axl said something about how much he got paid.  He also stated that he didnt want to know what management worked
out with him because it would ruin a little of the fun.  So Izzy isn't against big money.  He's got to afford his carefree life style somehow!  Its the routine of it that probably turns him off.
I could see him doing a big farewell 25 shows though.  It would set him up for a long time, and he could be apart of something he created.  I really hope he does come back and play more than
just a one off here, and there. 


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: sky dog on December 30, 2015, 06:51:04 AM
Slash-Ax-Duff-Izzy-Richard-Frank-Dizzy-Pitman.....now that is a Monstrosity!  :rofl:

I think Izzy will be involved more than everyone seems to think.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: jarmo on December 30, 2015, 07:14:01 AM
So I have seen all the tour rumors but one theme I don't like is Izzy wont be on tour. Anyone know why? His choice? Band doesn't want him. Just curious.

Considering the band's line up hasn't been confirmed by anybody, especially the band themselves, we just don't know yet.

But, if you want to assume he's not part, then there's plenty of possible reasons.
Izzy did some guest spots with GN'R in 2012 and 2006. But that was no full tour, it seems like he kinda came and went as he wished.

But, it's possible he wants to tour, then all that is not important. We'll see. :)




/jarmo



Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 30, 2015, 07:18:22 AM
Absolutely can understand (though would still like to see/hear) Adler being excluded, but if a missing Izzy is something other than Izzy's desire to be excluded..then that would be very dissapointing.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: TokyoRose on December 30, 2015, 09:31:25 AM
I would love to see Slash and Axl together again, but GNR has always been about Izzy and Axl for me.  Those guys are the heart and soul of the orgin of this band.
I hope Izzy would want to go out on a big way.  This arena tour would be a big love fest, and it would be for the fans.  The band has always been good about respecting
the love their fans have for them.  I would hope Izzy would let us say thank you, and see him one last time on a summer tour. 


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: C0ma on December 30, 2015, 11:49:32 AM
I think no matter what the 'official everyday lineup' is, Izzy will be involved in some way. If the 1 or 2 new tracks rumor is true, then he will certainly be part of that... I assume some of that may have even spawned from Izzy and Duff writing together last year.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: TheBaconman on December 30, 2015, 12:52:48 PM
Izzy has said in past interviews he would be more than willing to do a one off super show   


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: dont_damn_me on December 30, 2015, 01:34:46 PM
Izzy said touring wasn't the problem.  Say it at 1:05    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA1pNur9drw

Yeah, touring in itself wasn't a problem. He just liked it scaled down.

If the current rumors are true... It doesn't seem very scaled down.

Wonder how much he likes money at this point...

Do you think that's changed since 1991? If I could guess, I think he's comfortable economically.

If he liked money more than happiness, he wouldn't have quit in 1991.

I just say that because people change, circumstances change. A lot can change in 25 years

Yep, totally agree, I wouldn't count Izzy out just yet.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: jak0lantern01 on December 30, 2015, 02:27:45 PM
Izzy was not happy about being demoted back in the day for not running around the stage like others in the band, was a pretty big slap in the face. Personally for me, no Izzy, not interested in this circus. I'd much rather pay top dollar to see The Quiet Cool strumming away in a dark corner than to have someone else fill his spot just because they jump around on stage. In Fortus' case, anyone else notice that the man looks like he is punching his guitar when he plays? What's up with that (not knocking his ability, he is a good player)?


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: bazgnr on December 30, 2015, 03:21:01 PM
I've never even considered that Izzy would be a part of this, although an occasional guest appearance seems extremely likely.

Man.  If Izzy did sign on for all of it again...damn.


Title: Re: So... why no Izzy?
Post by: bigcash2002 on December 30, 2015, 04:54:00 PM
Personally, I'd love  to see Izzy be a part of a reunion and not just do a few shows.  He is a big part of the original guns sound.  Plus, when I've seen Izzy on stage.....Axl seems very happy.  If a full scale reunion is truly in the works...then Izzy would certainly be a welcome addition for many reasons.