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Guns N' Roses to Reunite for Coachella, Possible Stadium Tour: Sources

Guns N? Roses, with founding members Axl Rose and Slash, will headline the Coachella Music & Arts Festival in Indio, Calif., set for April 15-17 and April 22-24, according to multiple sources. The band is also tapped to be one of the first acts to play the new Las Vegas Arena, which is set to open April 6 with The Killers and Wayne Newton. Additionally, the reunited band is negotiating with promoters to play as many as 25 football stadiums in North America in the summer of 2016. The band is said to be asking as much as $3 million per show, with tickets topping out in the $250-$275 range.

The last show Axl Rose and Slash played together was on July 17, 1993 at River Plate Stadium in Buenos Aires. The band's last tour, which only included Axl Rose from the original lineup, took place primarily in South America and The Joint in Las Vegas, grossing $15.2 million.

The band's first album, Appetite for Destruction, is the biggest-selling debut in U.S. history, with 18 million sold. It spent five weeks at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 chart, and launched the No. 1 Billboard Hot 100 single "Sweet Child O' Mine." They have sold 44.5 million albums total in the U.S., according to the Recording Industry Association of America.

Representatives for the band, as well as Coachella producer Paul Tollett and agent Ken Fermaglich at United Talent Agency, could not be reached for comment. Executives at AEG, which will operate the new Vegas arena, also did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Billboard's confirmation comes on the heels of two rumor-inducing hints dropped over the past week, the first a cryptic update to the Guns N' Roses website and the second during, of all things, screenings of Star Wars: The Force Awakens, where footage of a concert crowd was shown with GN'R music overdubbed. Though longtime fans may be understandably wary after the decade-plus wait for Chinese Democracy, which became a totem of sorts to frontman Axl Rose's sometimes unpredictable behavior, the reunion appears to be fully in gear.

Coachella has a pedigree for coaxing much-loved acts out of retirement, or being the linchpin to plans that had already been simmering. The fest has previously hosted the reunions of Rage Against The Machine in 2007, My Bloody Valentine in 2009, Pulp in 2012 and Outkast in 2014 -- not to mention Tupac's posthumous return to the stage in 2012. Guns N' Roses will arrive a year after two other legendary acts, AC/DC and Steely Dan, headlined the 2015 edition.





Source:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/6828129/guns-n-roses-reunion-coachella-stadium-las-vegas

And so it begins

So... 25 football stadiums in North America. They're going big.

They're calling this a "confirmation". Dope!!

Looks like this will be an awesome summer! If this is true, this is a great way to turn 40 next summer.

I would think Billboard considers every source they've got. Quite telling they're calling it a "confirmation" yes.

It should be noted as seen in the article, the source is not from the band or tour promoter.

Where's the "no official announcement" brigade at?  Isn't this just another unconfirmed and unsubstantiated rumor? 

Also, holy shit!

Well they call people for comment. And nobody wants to say a word... yet    :smoking:

Stadiums??

Holy shit, indeed.

$275?  That's rough.

I'd pay it in a heartbeat, but I also like stadium shows.  Yet I also know there are other people that hate being so far away and whatnot.

That's the most expensive tickets right? There will probably be cheaper ones as well.

But that's Rolling Stones prices, isn't it?

If they come here, I'm not fucking around with the internet.

I will drive to the venue for tickets.  Not having what happened to Springsteen fans happen to me.

Good old Billboard

It looks like we are in for a fun year  :beer:

Stones have been playing arenas instead of stadiums here and charging more like $500-600.

That's top tier, not all seats will be that much I'm sure. That said, it will be the sweetest $275 I drop in my life.  :)

Anyone who wants to believe this isn't happening is kidding themselves.

 :D

Yeah, I recalled that after I posted. They're in a league of their own.  :)

Yeah, time to give up that ghost.

If there's no fire to all this smoke...

If you?re a Nightrain memner I don?t think you need to go to the stadium to buy tickets

Signed up...but since I didn't buy a fucking guitar pick or whatever, my account is not fully activated.

Classic.

why didn't they mention Duff? That's right...he is not an integral part of the equation. Sorry. He is great, but the world wants Axl and Slash.

Classic indeed. You buy merchandise and the membership came with it.
Or you could've gotten the $10 digital membership.


Suddenly the idea of being a fan club member doesn't sound so lame huh?




/jarmo

Could be since he already has reunited with Axl. The big news is as you say, Slash and Axl back together.

If Duff hadn't played with Axl before, I think they might've mentioned him.

probably waiting for the official announcement of the full lineup..... :-\

Interesting how only Axl and Slash are mentioned.

Ali

If Duff isn't there I will be really surprised. I think he's in.

Probably not a big deal..but Slash is one of the most recognizable musicians on Earth. Duff is a little more in the shadows...I wouldn't think anything of it.

I am sure Duff is in as well....just making a point.

According to the report, they will be one of the first acts in the new Las Vegas Arena following The Killers.

Here's the site to watch in case they put it up:

http://www.arenalasvegas.com/events/las-vegas-arena.aspx

I can't stop smiling..............................

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

okay jarmo/, is this real?  is this really happening?  billboard says it is...

Ugh, you are just the worst.

Even in this thread, with this news? 

Give it a fucking rest already, Jesus.

This article is only a summary of latest rumors

Yeah, the pic on the article they posted on FB has all 3 guys.

25 stadium shows. Las Vegas Arena. Ticket prices.

It's never been reported.

They've got a new source.

Yeah, this is the first of stadium talk.

whats lame is I cant access the entire site.  I was one of the original to sign up for it with a premium membership and now I'm denied access.  lame ass bullshit alright

Have you renewed? It only lasts for a year..

You're right, I'm sorry

That's a summary of latest rumors, plus a new rumor.

Like someone else said, they might be redesigning it.

The front page is still sporting a message from 3 years ago.

Dunno, but maybe.

J-Man. Are you happy if Slash is part of this?

I see no messages on the front page

It's still considered a rumor yes.

But you have to consider the publication. If this had been posted by say Alternative Nation, would we be as sure? No way.

Billboard has a much higher level of integrity.

There are shows, and music, coming.  Everything else kind of pales in comparison. 

It's gonna be a fantastic year.

There were plenty of reasons to be skeptical. 'Til now.

Welcome aboard!  :beer:

Yeah, that's true... If Billboard write, something is going on. But, despite their level of integrity, they give no confirmed news, no official statements... Till that, there's no news.

Remember what Trunk always said: in this business, everything could change in any moment.

Do you guys agree that it seems Coachella has been given the right to first announce this? They won't announce the tour, but the festival appearance. Then GNR makes their announcement.

Don't be that guy.

Obviously nobody can give confirmed news except official sources. Tour promoter or the band.

Coachella is expected to announce the line-up on Jan 5. As I said in the post above, I think they're given the exclusive for the first announcement. Speculation of course ;)

Ofcourse I'm excited and hope the reunion will be confirmed soon... However, I would be more excited about new music feat. Slash and Duff, rather than a reunion tour with the same old songs (which I still like).

But ok, step by step maybe  ;)

 :peace: :beer: :smoking:

Which guy?

There's been reports of 1-2 new songs being recorded soon. Again... rumor. :)

What? Correcting your mistake?
I know it's not something you want to hear... But even in this thread you had to try to put down the fan club.
You're not a member because you didn't wanna buy a guitar pick? No, you're not a member because you didn't wanna spend the money..... Simple. :)




Yeah, they don't seem to be in the click bait business... Even though things like this will probably get them a few of those.  :hihi:




/jarmo

 :peace:

Oh, for the love of fucking god, dude.

Look at this thread.  Look how psyched everybody is.  Look how happy.  This is the best possible news for us.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR BULLSHIT CRUSH ON ME RIGHT NOW

I am not going to cock this thread up with more of this nonsense.  This will be my last comment on the matter in this thread.

At this point I don't think we really need more confirmations.

This would be the biggest what the fuck moment of all time if they went nah just playin ! Haha

I cannnnnnnot wait to see this in person.

Big time.

Like I said earlier, if they come here, I am driving to the venue for my tickets.  Already told the boss I will need off if it falls on a weekday morning, and not Saturday.

Yeah, I can log in too.

I think because trying to renew is really no different than signing up new, really.  So they shut it all down.

I get your frustration, but I think that's the reason.  Sadly, just tough shit for us, I'm afraid.

Right now they've stopped new registrations temporarily, for some reason.

I think that includes renewals.

Hopefully the guys do a video announcement or something for Coachella. That will be great to see. No point dragging things outpace the cat's out of the bag. Let the people start making their travel plans.

A video would also spare them having to sit at a dais and answer questions.

well that's just bullshit.  we been waiting year and now it seems the time is here and I'm fucked it would appear.  been fun cheerin on this train for decades...sad

Yeah, its a tough for people like us.

However, be honest, if we had both re-upped like we should have...we'd probably appreciate it being closed for people trying to join as of 1 hour ago.

Me too, man... :-(

Give me a new album already!  :drool:

You know what would be so fucking awesome imo, on new years eve, when Slash performs in Las Vegas with Myles... When they close the gig with Paradise City and Axl walks on the stage to sing and shouts: "Happy new year fuckers! We're back!!"
 :rofl: :peace:

Indeed. I'd be surprised if they do any interviews to be honest. What would be the point anyway? Open up old wounds? Try to sell tickets for a tour that's going to sell out anyway?


Even though I'm not a fan of Myles I'd like to think Slash had more respect for him than to turn him into a sidenote at his own show.

That's fine, Mr Guitar Pick. No need to get so upset.
I was busting your balls. It happens. No big deal.
You know, we joke, we fight and all that, or should I put this in red? :)

 :peace:


Hell, we don't even know if there's any pre-sales. No shows have been announced or confirmed.




And why is that?




/jarmo

Someone at the Coachella forums pointed out that Billboard were the ones who broke the news that OutKast was performing in 2014.



Also.. I've been watching for news in my home country, and only now, when Billboard posted this did they report on it. Even if there's been numerous of articles out there for days, I think Billboard is considered as official as it gets.

hey jarmo - please make sure you send me a copy of the list of people who bitched about the setlists never changing from 2002-2013. I'd love to ask them some questions after these upcoming shows.

Sorry D-X, but that was really funny...  :hihi:

FIIIIIIIIIINAAALLLYYY GUNS N ROSES HAS COME BACK TO SAVE THE ROCK N ROLL WORLD!!!  :peace:

Billboard don't mess about. If they say its happening I believe it. They're not gossipmongers and they have a standing in the industry to maintain.

Whatever happens after, going to be a great night (presumably) streaming Coachella with yous guyses. The night we never thought would happen.

P.S. I'll guess 1-2 songs if true will crop up on a new greatest hits package. Universal already wanted to release one anyway.

Cut it out with this nonsense...

Today is a happy day for 99.999999 of us. Let's enjoy it.

That's very interesting.

I am almost willing to say this is 100 percent real.

25 stadiums seems a bit ambitious, no? Am I underestimating how big this could be? I'd expect a pretty big opening act to join on. Exciting times nonetheless!

I always thought Axl/Slash could do a stadium tour...

I guess we shall see.

Giants Stadium... the Linc.. Gillette... I'll be at all three!

Wow, I've not logged in, in a long time!!!!!

This news is just absolutely insane.

Just incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think its legit. I think the wounds have healed and I think this will be incredible. Please for the love of GOD let it be AFD lineup. ADLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's... BIG.

I don't know how these people calculate these things, but I'm sure they're experienced at this.

I'm sure they'll sell it and I'm sure there'll be a huge support act. Even 2.0 GNR has managed some really good ones.

Some of us came up with a few ideas about the set list in another thread.  :peace:

I am just pissed that AEG likely will be promoting the tour. My boy in the ATL works for Live Nation. Argghhh. Maybe Guns use both at some point so I get a hook up.

I'm so excited. You have no clue guys. Well you probably do! lmao!!!!

Axl, Slash, Duff, Izzy and Adler

That's it.... fuck Matt Sorum. He's a good drummer but Adler's drummer has more bounce and flair to it. Sorum's drumming is like to precise or something. I can't explain it man.

Considering everybody's always (well for the last decades) been saying how huge a reunion would be, it makes sense.

Also, it says it would be in the summer. GN'R hasn't done a summer tour of the USA since, 1992? I suspect casual rock fans are more likely to go to a big rock show in the summer than say the darkest time of the year?



/jarmo

Slash?s guitar tech just posted on Del James facebook.

(http://s27.postimg.org/tgwvez3n7/10492204_1237695852923576_7715696672199925314_n.jpg)

I wouldn't expect anything other than Axl, Slash and Duff from the old lineup or you'll likely be disappointed

AEG don't have the rights to 25 stadiums in the US to my knowledge. More like 4-5.

Not sure how this works, but I think Live Nation will probably be involved.

After what happened with Irving Azoff  i dont think they will use Live Nation.

Never thought this would happen, so happy it is.

Yeah, do you even want to answer those questions?  What's the payoff?  Its all bad and little good.

And like you say, do any of us care?  Do any of us care right now who said what, when, and why way back when?  Not really.

Just bring on our favorite band.  Where's the ticket line?

Anyone from the UK planning on going to see the first show?

I HAVE to be there at that first show my friends, no matter what the cost is!!

Would be really grateful for any advice re travelling, etc  :peace:

Still NOTHING from Rolling Stone. Last article was from November.

Did they get an exclusive story from Guns N Roses perhaps?

GNR on the next cover? (Well, Lemmy will most likely be on the next one, but after that).

They are sporting the Axl/Slash headline because that has always been the problem. Axl and Slash together.

Axl has played with Izzy a few times and Duff... so there's no issues.

Izzy could probably use the money, as this tour would be HUGE money pull. Adler too.

Adler is the questionable one with his personal issues that he seems to have FINALLY gotten over. The drugs from what i know have stopped, and like last year he had some alchohol issues again, but got treatment.

I honestly think Adler would be on his PERFECT behavior for this tour. Just have Sorum on standby man. Adler would have to learn the UYI songs right? Or maybe he's already learned them years ago.

If this is the AFD classic lineup I'd pay 300-400 bucks for 1 ticket to see it. I would. It is something I thought might happen... but never really thought WOULD happen. this is unREAL

They did use them in recent years to my knowledge.

Wow, this is unbelievable (as in figure of speech, I do actually believe it).  Great stuff!

That one was pretty good.  Not unlike something I'd say.

That whole post was a good save, really.  Put that spin on it.  The callback to the sig was clever too.

Respek.  Good burn is a good burn.

Prediction - Jarmo becomes a huge Slash fan again all of the sudden. LOL.   Just when you think you have all the answers, Axl changes the questions!!!'   I love it!!!!  

Spirit, yes they did and you are right, all the venues may not be under AEG....will be interesting.

Always been very favorable to Axl, those guys.

Seems weird he'd cut them out.

pS - I think Dx and Jarmo should both admits they were wrong all these years about a reunion.  Man up.

100% wrong.

Been telling everyone that asks me about this, online and in real life, that I'd have gladly bet $10,000 against this and not had a care in the world about losing.

Never been so happy to be so wrong.

well there goes some of the mortgage deposit i'd been saving up

I'm on the HYPE train!!! Bottoms up!!!

I wonder when we'll get a tour date annoucement? Probably mid to late jan? or feb?

Anyone have any idea?

I would think they'd play Nashville right? That would be incredible.

No matter what. I'm seeing this.

Super stoked. But also dying to know, if this pans out, when we'll get to hear CD 2 material. That would be a great loss if it gets shelved.

I have never seen so many people viewing this board at one time... not that I can remember anyway.

Depends what they mean by "summer".  Is it like like right when schools let out, or not until 4th of July-ish?

A stadium seems ambitious, but they must have the internal research that shows it will work.

I assume they hit any major market with a football stadium.  No football in the summer.

I was just thinking about it, its very possible.

You should have been here in 2006 :)

What is with us Guns fans always bashing on each other? After a few pages, every thread, becomes like a warzone between fans...  ;D

In defense of Jarmo here... Show some fucking respect please!
I never had the idea Jarmo was against Slash, I think he just defended the "new" band always, letting the past for what it was. When Slash is back in now, he will do the same I think. There was no hate as far as I can tell towards previous members by him.
Stop this nonse.

Carpe Diem and rock on!
 :peace:

Yeah, sure. If your happiness is dependent on that.
If I ever made claims that some things would never happen, and then they do, I'll admit to being wrong. I have no problem with that.





/jarmo

Last time i remember here today being this busy was rock in rio 2011.

Amazing news.  Honestly never ever ever thought this would happen.  This is going to be an awesome year!

Well I was... not as a regular poster yet, just don't really remember what the traffic was like.

There's only one band I'd pay that kinda $$$ to see...and that band is Guns N Fuckin Roses!!!! I'm so excited!!!

Oh the night of Axl's interview and the first show.... there were 3x as many here.

The night is still young though...  ;)

Atta guy.

Let's get this on a plaque.

Like Tim Tebow's "The Promise"

Yeah, I will stretch my budget pretty far for this...

The happiness this gives me cannot be fully described.  I have been waiting for this since literally 1993 when the UYI tour stopped.  FINALLY MY BAND IS BACK.

Gonna be a lot of this, I reckon.

Let's not kill people for saying this.  Its too great a time right now, for all of us.

He just spilled the beans?

Go ahead. Put it next to the print out of the post where you're told you're wrong.

And that empty space on your wall reserved for the guitar pick. : ok:




/jarmo

I'm just happy right now.

too fucking funny...the next thing he will be wrong about is Slash playing on some Gnr tracks recorded during the Chinese sessions....big helping of crow awaits!

We were wrong, bro.  It's OK to say it out loud.

Our expression of that sentiment might have been different, but the main idea was the same.  Neither of us saw this likely.

I've never been so happy to be wrong.

Things might even be on the table with Rihanna and me now.  Who knows?  It's just a crazy time to be alive.

Well it was always possible despite what has been said in the past. No one is right or wrong for denying or supporting the likelihood of this - that's just the nature of life, things change, people change. A healthy financial return probably didn't hurt either - they are in the music business, after all.

I imagine Duff reconnecting with Axl would have played a big part in this, but I'll be interested to see what they have to say for themselves.

No matter what though, this won't negate the presence of the preceding lineups. They produced some pretty good songs, and I won't be complaining if some of those songs carry over to this impending lineup.

I wouldn't hold your breath Ben about them talking about the past....

And I'll cop to being wrong about that too!  

Look, you have strong opinions, its a zero sum game.  There are times you spike the football when you nailed it, and times you just gotta shrug and take the loss when you got it wrong.

Some people will deny themselves the former because they can't bear to publically do the latter, so they have no opinions.  Its all wishy washy.  No conviction.  

Not me, man.  I either called it outright, or I eat shit.

Well, well, well.  Exciting stuff  8)  Hoping to see the world's greatest rock and roll circus roll around Europe (Hampden Park if they do Scotland, I would imagine - otherwise I may have to head to England to see them).

Man...i'm here imagining reunited Skid Row opening up for reunited GNR in Giants Stadium or whatever....c'mon if Axl/Slash made up , Sebastian / Bolan surely can too!!  :beer:

Well ive been to the Coachella web site and there is ZERO mention of GNR!!!???

Not so much the past, more about the present and coming back together.

D-Gen, they have plenty of time to put a few songs together and tons of material to work with....that's the good thing.

I agree. Considering how level headed Duff is these days, I can imagine he had a good talk with Axl.

Not that Axl was ever difficult, we don't know what issues he had with Slash. But I think Duff might have helped put things right.

As much as i'd like to be exited, im not. Someone posted earlier that his favorite band is back. Well, for me it feels like my favorite band just died. I guess it just me...


Anyway im happy for fellow posters here that are over the moon right now.
For me, i can only hope to be positively surprised by what is to come. :peace:

There's zero mention of anyone I think. Look out for the announcement of the line-up.

That's right. I don't think anyone can ever know exactly what happened except the two of them, and to be honest even if they both spoke about it on record tomorrow, you still might not have the complete picture simply because of the amount of time that has passed.


Well everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'll be honest and say I was, and still would be very interested in hearing more of the material from the 2002/2006 lineup. Somewhere, somehow, I hope that will appear.

I'll have to comment on this..

I'm with you in the sense that I really hope we'll still get to hear the new material recorded by any (we don't know which) post-1996 line-up. I sincerely hope that CD 2 isn't lost in this.

I'm 100% sure that Duff played a major role on this...they fucking spent over a month touring last year right? Its impossible to imagine they havent talked about Slash...Duff was the link for a phone call maybe!!!

Reflecting on the perpetual division among fans on here (particularly during the early/mid 2000s), it's great to see near-universal positivity today.  :peace:

JARMO runs THE ONLY PLACE to be for GNR.....

love that it is rocking... it will rock harder as today and tomorrow go on.

I do wonder if Slash will perform anything from Chinese Democracy? I personally just want 86-95 era stuff.

With this happening. I wonder if we will get some sort of special release? That would be in incredible. Besides this upcoming year marks 20 years since Slash quit Gn'R

It's shameless promotion, not much else.  You think Axl gonna sell out his integrity like this? I think not.

 :(

Anyone reckon we'll hear Axl sing a VR song or something from Slash or Duff's solo projects? I always imagine how Axl would sound singing songs from those other bands

Not been on here for some years now but lurk about a few times a week.
Just wanted to drop in an join the party

 :beer:

Edit: -3 Karma still? Seriously Jarmo??? It's been years!!!  :hihi:

@DX and Jarmo. 


Ok.  Now that that's over, let's celebrate!!!!!! :beer:  : ok: : ok: : ok:

Me too... my account dates back from 2005 or something but only now I feel like posting anything! When the official announcement is done, this and other forums will colapse!

You still have no faith in this?

Hoping all this teasers are not just something related to a special release or somehing...blu ray or old records limited edition.
Las year, Genesis did something similar, with teasers and all...everyone psyched about it but in the end it was just a fucking Best Of release!!!!!!!  :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

In my opinion, I think the line would be drawn at CD material, if even that, because people are going to see "reunited" GNR playing their classic material, so to speak - although, if things have indeed reached this point, I'd say anything is possible.


Yeah, another one here. Only check in now and then.


I have to say that I am still open to the possibility that this may not be a reunion, or at least to the extent of which is being reported. Until official confirmation arrives, of course.

As I've said, I have zero problems admitting being wrong. It doesn't bother me one bit.

 :)



/jarmo

The good old days!   :beer:

Now we are all family!

There needs to be a big HTGTH meetup at these shows.

I think that would be cool!

To be fair there has been no offficial announcement yet from either Coachella, US promoters or any of the bandmembers supposedly involved. Maybe no one is allowed to talk until Jan. 5 but it means the buzz will decrease a bit until then. Not a big fan of this "mysterious marketing strategy" but maybe it'll make more sense in a few days...

For an opening act on the tour, I would love for it to be Halestorm.

I hung in there and hoped, and hoped and never lost that hope  :D

That's my feeling too.

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I hope this, too.

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I was thinking about that.... Let's see.

Axl has had harsh words for Slash but he was always willing to take Slash back in. Also, every single member had been anti Axl for years as well. Are they selling out?

I expect a big one to help fill stadiums

Well, just logged in for the first time in years (glad to see some familiar names here :) ) to cheer with you guys about the news. Seems like 2016 will be really interesting.

Depends on their media strategy I think.

If they get out there, maybe release a single... Is in every magazine, TV also. They won't need any "big name" opener.

They need to broadcast the reunion aspect of it.

Does anybody know what time they will announce Coachella lineups on Jan 5 ?

It all depends.

25 big metropolitan areas. 25 "once in a lifetime" and/or "only show in this state" shows.

If you stay at home, you'll miss it.
That alone could fill up venues nicely.





/jarmo

Hell Yeah !! Will be good to see  the gang again at shows, I already booked a trip to Cali for Coachella! At worst I get to spend time with family, and no hotel needed just airfare! :D

I mentioned it earlier...

Rolling Stone haven't said a word. Previous rumors have got their attention immediately.

I suspect they've got a story straight from the horse's mouth ready to go soon.

I'm having no problems logging in at all, site is working great for me-  : ok:

I just read though, never tried to post.

I was wondering why Rolling Stone hasn't reported on this yet as well.  I hope it's a good sign. 

Went from front row at the Brooklyn Bowl and Roseland to who knows where at a football stadium...Not too happy.....

I'll be at any Canadian/northern states shows next summer when they happen.

Axl doing Fall To Pieces or something would I think be a classy and welcome move. A mark of respect not just to his bandmates but to the late Scott Weiland.

I've been thinking about this...

While possible, I think Chinese songs are more likely. They were released under the GNR banner while a song like Fall To Pieces is technically from another band.

They have been doing cover songs though, so it is certainly possible. Axl would do great on Fall To Pieces, it'll be a great tribute to Scott.

No VR/Snakepit/Loaded etc covers.....Perhaps the 2 new songs rumored and how appropriate if they instantly release a Mot?rhead cover!

While it is technically from another band, it does have a little history for Axl and Slash... Maybe trade favors, you sing Fall to Pieces and I'll play This I Love?

One is heavily associated with another band and singer, the other one isn't....




/jarmo

The temp in hell just dropped 20 degrees....and i think i see ice crystals forming amongst the flames.... ;)

They have.

This ain't show friends...its show business.

You could say the same for Live And Let Die or Knockin' On Heaven's Door to be fair. If Axl can step on stage with Slash again I'd say all bets are off at this point.

Holy fuck weasels, YES!!

You could say that, but only if you conveniently disregard other facts.
Yes, they were originally written and recorded by people who aren't GN'R. But they weren't written or recorded by people who were in GN'R while they weren't in GN'R.

I'm sure you knew that. :)



/jarmo

Gilette and MetLife would be givens. I can do either...maybe both. That pricing would be the only killer.

This board is going to explode with old for ten faces pretty soon.  Which is good because things were getting a little stale. 

I am not a festivals guy at all.   I hope there is a ppv broadcast or a live feed.   Then a blue ray release. 

I will Tavel any place in North America to see this band in concert in a stadium or arena.   Can't wait

Come down to Gilette (sorta, kinda, near boston...well, in mass anyway) or metlife, near nyc. First round on me?  :beer:

As far as I know, there's more than 25 football teams?
So which ones wouldn't get a show?

LA has no NFL team....



/jarmo

I'm not 100% sure who Mitch Lafon is... but I know I've heard of him.

Anyways he tweeted this:


Mitch Lafon ‏@mitchlafon  2h2 hours ago
Do you Know Where You Are @jimmykimmel ? Next week, right

Mitch Lafon ‏@mitchlafon  2h2 hours ago
For those of you that missed 1986 the first time around - have no fear it'll be back in 2016 on so many fronts.

Mitch Lafon ‏@mitchlafon  14m14 minutes ago
You're Crazy if you don't circle this day in your calendar
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXcEsHJWcAEb_pG.jpg)

Pretty Reckless are much better. Lzzy gets annoying after 5 songs. Taylor is so damn sexy.

Wow!  Big night!  Gonna be intense on here the night of the first concert.

Lots of big and famous users online tonight from the past 15 years. Some I met in New York 10 years ago that I haven't thought about since then, some at a Velvet Revolver concert 12 years ago, and a couple that even helped me learn guitar like Voodoo and Meanbone.  

So weird reflecting on the life of a GNR fan. I first hopped on here the night of the VMA's as a sophomore in college and now I learn about this article while giving my second child a bath.  I can't imagine what kind of ride it's been like for fans since the beginning.  Tonight has to have a surreal feel to it.

I would love to hear Axls take on "fall too pieces".  I think it would be great.  Especially considering he has mentioned he heard the original melody years ago

I also agree it would be considered a cover song.    As it was written by another band.    

However guns has lots of covers.    I for one would t be saddened to see me of them dropped in favor of this one

Completely agree with the facts at hand, but there is going to have to be some give and take... It's not like Axl isn't benefiting from taking the stage with Slash (maybe more so than Slash is from taking the stage with him). I don't expect Axl to ignore 2000-2014... you can't expect Slash and Duff to either.

Will these songs be setlist cornerstones, I would't expect that, but I wouldn't rule them out as random one offs. Maybe for instance Slash starts playing something like Anastasia as his solo piece live and it organically expands from there like the Don't Cry sing along.

This is sounding like its going to be an all out GnFR assault!

I will definitely be at MetLife.

Metlife  would be a giving for sure. Very exciting indeed!

Not being familiar with all that is Coachella - is there any shot of them streaming or payperviewing this?

There's a chance yes. Youtube streamed last year.

Thx bro

very nice!!!

Who's own show? Isn't is Slash with a backingband?

LA has a couple big stadiums close by. I'd assume they play the Rose Bowl in Pasedena, but they have a couple options. And some of the big division one colleges have huge stadiums, too. So its not just nfl stadiums.

I'd bet LA, san fran, boston, nyc, miami, dallas , chicago, detroit, and, apparently, vegas are pretty sure bets.  Probably seattle, washington dc, denver, and new orleans. Maybe kansas city, pheonix,  and Wisconsin (green bay). They might find something in the upper central u.s. area, too....likely a college stadium.

All hypothetically, of course.

There are 32 teams and the NY teams share a stadium.  Green Bay wont get a show, too small of a metropolitan area.  They won't be limited to just football stadiums. The craze the last few years has been a "summer concert series" in baseball stadiums and college football stadiums.  For example, Target Field is a baseball stadium in Minnesota that for about five straight years has hosted a country concert that sells out.  Half the people that go to those just like to post a facebook status to say they are watching an outdoor concert at a cool baseball stadium.

If they don't do a stadium in LA, AEG runs Staples Center.

Mother of god !!!!!!!  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Checking in for the first time since 2007 to say that I'm pumped! This is what we've been waiting for people! Our boys are back, the war is over (for now). Though, if I've learned one thing for sure about GNR...it's that nothing's for sure. Hope to see you fellas (and lovely ladies) around!

The only reason i think gb has a sot is they can draw from the states west of them, which are going to be "thin" in terms of shows, if there are only 25. The metro area is small, but they could be a " release valve" to get coverage of those other markets.

But no way kansas city gets a show, or houston AND new orleans. Or buffalo. Or san fran AND oakland. And prolly not san diego, if they do a show in la....even though its a 4 hour drive.

LA does have the Colosseum still standing, and may be in use as early as next year temporarily if The Chargers and or Rams get the OK to move.

There are 32 teams, 2 play at the same stadium in NY so that drops to 31. There are a few teams that are in close enough proximity to potentially cancel one or two out.
For example:
Houston and New Orleans are not that far apart, and Dallas will get a show in Texas, so Houston could get bounced.
There are 3 teams in FL (Miami, Tampa, and Jacksonville)... due to it's proximity to Georgia I could see Jacksonville getting left out.
St Louis is close to Chicago... plus you have Kansas City MO with Arrowhead Stadium, so one of those 2 could be dropped.
Oakland and San Fran are just across the bay from each other, plus the San Fran stadium is now in Santa Clara which is not really a major metropolitan area, so Oakland could get it.

That got it down to 27.

If LA gets one, and San Diego could be dropped (26)

There are a few more like that... Baltimore and Washington are close enough to cancel one out... Also they skipped Cincinatti in 1992 so that could drop off

That gets you to 25 on the nose.

Foxboro MA, Buffalo NY, NY NY, Philly, Pitts, Cleveland, Washington DC, Charlotte NC, Atlanta GA, Tampa FL, Miami FL, Nashville, New Orleans, Indianpolis, Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis,  Green Bay, Denver, Dallas, Kansas City, Arizona, LA, Oakland, Seattle

It has been a very long time but I am very glad to be home

I was just wondering... Am I the only GNR fan who doesn't really give a shit about this?

I mean, I can understand the anxiety and fans wanting this to happen, specially those who didn't see the old lineup performing live... But I got used to things the way they were.

I liked Axl's Chinese Democracy, the musicians from the new lineup have been fantastic. I liked Slash's projects (in spite of that Slaughtered-Sheep fucker Myles Kennedy), Duff's Loaded, Izzy's music, Adler's stuff, VR, etc...

This is really great news... y drool thinking about a new axl+slash tune... please guys just gift us one more

This is so intense... the range of emotions are insane.

104.3 played Heavens Door and Dont Cry about an hour ago and Carol Miller talked about Coachella...I literally screamed in the car.

I am so jacked up... reading everybody's thoughts tonight is really just so much fun for me.

On MyGNR they are talking about them being on Kimmel next week? Maybe?

Looking at everyone's reaction... yes.

IMO all of those things you mentioned paled in comparison to what happened when Axl, Slash, Duff (and can't leave out Izzy) shared a stage, studio, and creative process. I think if the 2 new songs rumor is true, even if Izzy doesn't tour, he will help write and record those tracks.

I posted the Mitch Lafon tweets related to that... not sure of the validity. He basically tweeted to Jimmy, sying "Do you know where you are Jimmy. Next week, right".

Thanks to Ron and Dj, "the way they were" doesn't exist anymore either.

We all know Izzy will do whatever he wants to do... Maybe he appears by surprise on some gigs, maybe not.

Now, we don't know if they quit because they knew this was going to happen, or completely on their own.

Good point...

Doesn't change the fact that that line-up doesn't exist anymore.

Yeah, I know. But the way you phrased it I took it as "they are to blame".


"Thanks to..."



Sorry if that wasn't your intention.

Fenway and Wrigley have been doing that for years too... the issue is they are going to pretty much sell out anything you put their stage in, so why limit it. A football stadium will have better viewing angles and more seats (counting the field) plus typically (not always) there are more luxury boxes and high end club seats in an NFL stadium. Cowboys Stadium for example could seat over 100,000 people with tons of luxury box seats, plus parking is much better at a Football Stadium than a baseball park (for the most part Yankees Stadium being an outlier). Even the very large college stadiums (like Tennesse, Michigan, Ohio State etc... will lose luxury box revenue that the average newer NFL stadium can give you.

Jarmo...you are going to fund the htgth all star luxury box tour, right? :p

Because you were super gung-ho about it?  Or because it was that or nothing?

A muddy puddle looks like a hell of a deal when you are dying in the desert.  But you aren't scooping out it out by the cup if there is a water fountain there as well.

 :beer: Come through Jarmo!!

Too bad Kimmel isnt on CBS so that they could advertise the hell out of the performance and then play the Monday or Tuesday after the Superbowl.

My company (for the time being) has the naming rights for the luxury box level at Gillette Stadium, and I got a handful of tickets for the AC/DC, Taylor Swift, and Country Fest shows there this summer. I'll get us the box, if Jarmo can get us back stage.

Rolling Stone were on the ball through the summer and up until November regarding the reunion rumors. All of December, the movie teaser and now this Billboard article... not a word.

Again, just saying.

Kimmel has been good to Axl and Slash in the past, plus he launched the recent Van Halen tour with a 5 or 6 song show.

Anticipation is building a little now after reading the Kimmel tweets.

I don't think they would debut a reunion on late night TV though, would they? Wouldn't it undermine Coachella's investment? Also, isn't this just too big a deal for their comeback performance to be on a late night TV show? An interview, sure - even that would be a major deal for Kimmel.

I don't think so either. Interviews is more likely yes.

I like that idea :peace: :beer:  :D

How many will fit in that box?   :D

My bad.  It was not my intention to place blame.

As with most things GNR, it would be an exercise in futility to try to figure out (if true) what brought all this about.

Actually depending on the creative control the band is given they could agree to answer questions the day after the announcement on the show, plus because the show isn't live they could perform a song or two and get the final say as to if it airs or not. Kimmel could back fill if needed with a Standup.

There were warmups before RIR 3, can't expect the first live show to be in front of a Coachella crowd.

I would expect a couple secret smaller warm up shows in LA

For me, bittersweet.
My focus is new music
These rumors distract.

But I am surprised
At how happy these maybes
Have made my soul feel.

Still want new music
But my spirit remembers
SoFla, New Year's Eve

Rang in the New Year
In what was then Joe Robbie
Old Guns at the helm

So given the choice
I'd still go with CD II
Over old lineup

Yet, soul rejoices
Since a beloved past MIGHT
Come 'round full circle.

Blessed conundrum
I let myself move forward
Enjoying old; new.

Splash
/Mike

how happy and weird will it be for Slash to freely and joyfully talk about GnR again

Oh, I'm sure there will be a warm up or preview, but probably a private show rather than a late night TV performance? Just my thoughts anyway.

Absolutely.

Imagine the biggest thing you've ever done, and you have to downplay it and tell interviewers not to bring it up.

Didn't he bring that situation upon himself?

why even go there?

I remember j00 ^^


I think it's bogus. :P

Two reasons:  1. Because you brought it up.  2.  Because it's true.

awesome

fingers crossed!!


vamooooo los pibesss!!!!

It's either happening or the whole thing blows up. They (Axl) lose all support minus a small minority (these boards).

Even some of us, probably.

He can't possibly bail at this point.

What has happened since the Slash interview, and specifically the recent upswing in the past few days could have been addressed if it wasn't true. If it isn't true, not addressing it and nipping it in the bud is the largest tactical error Axl and his support system have made since the classic lineup collapse.

I don't think they are that tone deaf... which is why in my mind this has to be real.

sure he can...until the inks dry, all rumors...such is life. We could get some, we could get all, or we could get none.

u like picks? what size would you prefer?

He can, but he nukes his credibility moving forward because he let this rumor fester without addressing it. There is no coming back with Axl and 7 guys most of the world has never heard of before.

Coma, you are assuming he cares about coming back....just playing devil's advocate here as he is not an easy guy to predict or pigeonhole.

Why not? At no point he or the band has announced anything, its not his fault if everybody else did it instead.

As of right now, to pretty much the entire music (rock) listening world, GnR is again Axl, Slash, and Duff (maybe more). Axl and Team Brazil have had months to quickly state 'hey, what you are hearing is not true, but we have a big 2016 planned' instead of impossible to understand jokes about in international drug incident that about 30 people globally even heard about. If all of this passes and there is no announcement, no coachella, no reunion... then whether they started the rumor or not, most support for Axl's version of Guns N Roses is over.

He either does the reunion or GNR is over.

And I say this as someone who was completely behind Axl's vision for Guns after Slash and Duff.

He can't come back with even more replacements for departed guitarists. I'd go see it, but the public wouldn't.

100% agreed.

And an ad campaign before the biggest movie of alltime?

The lead article on the front page of Billboard?

This last happened...when?

Axl is unpredictable but 'not in this lifetime' (regarding FULL reunion) is my belief. Or expectation if u will.

So, it's only valid for a FULL reunion?

You do believe Slash might be back?

I feel for the people that grew up with CD Era GnR like I grew up with Classic Era GnR. For them this is what 1994-1997 was like for me just condensed into the time period between DJ announcing his departure until today (just a few months). I can see why they are fighting this and standing like Baghdad Bob yelling 'nothing to see here' while the buildings around him smolder.

While I enjoyed CD era GnR, it wasn't 'my band'... and that is what the future is going to be for them.

I wonder what would have been if we had the classic core of GnR creating music though the late 90's into the 2000's and they will forever wonder what is in the CD vault and if we will ever hear all of it (or any of it for that matter).

Guns N Roses is worldwide trend #14 on twitter at the moment.

But how could they have that same connection?

We followed them for 5 solid years they were probably the biggest band in the world.

What did anyone that followed the CD band have that was anything near that?

Awesome.

I keep checking HuffPo and Yahoo.  Not yet.

I figure in the next few days its there too.

For argument sake:
What if it turns out to be something like say a former manager who previously tried to "force" a reunion; who also has the $$ backup to run a movie ad campaign such as this from his Clear Channel business and other endeavors; who also has connections at Billboard ... what if all of this was to once again "force" a reunion?  Wouldn't it be prudent of Axl (or whomever) to just let the Coachella line-up day announcement come and go and then "leak" the proof that this reunion stuff was all fabricated by this ex-manager.

And then give the fans CD II with a free tee with that logo from gnr.com.

Again, just for argument sake. 

I was actually thinking of a post along these lines. Anything is possible until they are actually onstage together. Not criticising Axl - but rather, as you pointed out, this is so unprecedented in light of previous comments and the business conflicts he's spoken about that you can't help wondering..

Well a former manager would have no benefit in doing so.  I think it's almost safe to take the tin foil hats off.  Maybe tomorrow.

You don't think that maybe the ego of said manager could be so big that it's a totally impossible scenario?  Considering how it's fact it was tried and failed before and everyone knows it.  And the amount of money it would cost him to attempt it again would be a drop in the bucket to him.  And the revenue he could make if it works would be astronomical in comparison?

Me and my tin foil hat are totally on board with whatever Axl decides is best for himself and GNR. 

Word to Axl:  To thine own self be true.

I always contended that a reunion wouldn't be as big a deal as some made it out to be. It looks like I may very likely be proven wrong, and happily at that.  : ok:

But that bit in bold?  He so rarely does that.

Believe me, I have made this same argument about him many, many, many times.  It's maddening.

A guy who always claims he's lied to and fucked over...but then never has any details.  And it ain't like he's got a great reputation as Johnny Highroad.

This was what I could never get.  Why this never happened as much as it probably could have.

Interviewer : "What happened with <insert topic here>?  How did that go so wrong?"

Axl : "Oh, what a total fucking mess that all was.  Listen to this.  Here is what they did..."

And from there, give your side.  If what you are saying is true about you being fucked how does it not help you to get that out there?  Why let people lie about you, as you are claiming they are doing?  Might even rally people to your side.

So, to make a long story short (too late) I don't think what you are describing will happen because its just generally not how Axl rolls.  Letting someone hang themselves, and then come out of nowhere and drop some facts that crush them

I think we will see Axl and Slash share the stage together ya. Hopefully. Then they split and go back to doing their things again. Realisticly.



What can u do?

You're probably right.  Like I said before, as GNR fans we know it would be an exercise in futility to try and figure out what and why anything is or isn't going on.

I was actually more addressing your assertions about the money spent on movie ads and an article on a magazine website that there could only be one outcome.  For argument sake only, I was attempting to show there possibly could be other forces at work here.

Pretty big ticket coercion move there though.

And Slash and Duff wouldn't let themselves be used like that.  Unless they were the ones behind it.

Been a long time since being this excited...cautious optimism as always!

Rock music was at its peak just about when Guns was. It's hard to compare anything in the modern day rock world to anything experienced in the 80's, 90's, and prior. For people who became interested in GNR during the CD era, that's what they knew best and cared about. I'm not sure why you can't accept that.

I still can't really believe this is seemingly about to go down. I don't think it's truly set in yet. If they pop up on Kimmel next week though, I think that'd be enough to tip the scales for me.  :peace:

If the announcement goes down next week for Coachella which seems likely, i feel bad for Jarmo. This place will go completely nuts. I wouldn't be shocked if we bring the site down with all the traffic. It's gotten slow at times during setlist reports during tours with the new GNR lineup. If the Coachella announcement happens with the original lineup or most of it at least. Watch out. Jarmo will need all the luck he can get keeping HTGTH online.

Perhaps I am phrasing this inartfully.

I suppose, at the base, what I'm saying is that it was WAY harder for us to get over the classic band, right?  We had to give up after a magical run most bands only dream about, and then cast our lot with god knows who.

The CD era fans never had a stable band anyway.  But with whatever they had now being gone, I would think it an easier transition for them seeing "their guys" replaced with people with the pedigree of Slash and Duff.  But in terms of O.G. GNR cred, as well as cred in the industry, just in in general.

Is any of this making sense?

SKID ROW Splits With Singer TONY HARNELL

Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-splits-with-singer-tony-harnell/#arWOVFiqDcK78HpK.99

I wonder who's opening Guns N' Roses reunion tour...  ::)

I seen the same report via Blabbermouth , and thought the same exact thing .....wow......18 n life.
Exciting times.

I think it's important for disillusioned C.D. era fans to remember we're not getting a reunion in place of CD2. That had almost a decade to come out. We are in all likelihood getting a reunion in place of not getting anything.

It is not just the 'oldgnrfans' vs the newgnr-fans'. Many (inc me and Jarmo) got re-intrested in gnr in 99 and/or after rio3.

Has it been anti-climatic for the reintrested fans and newgnr-fans (those who first got into/mostly like gnr post-99) compared to oldgnr? mhm :-X  duh :P

Mitch Lafon has just posted this on his Facebook page:

"I highly recommend setting your DVRs to record Jimmy Kimmel next week."

https://www.facebook.com/OneOnOneMitchLafon/?fref=nf

Axl and Slash gonna play there hm

I think that's how CD fans should approach it too.
We have spoken and argued about this many times as to whether CD2 was ever seriously going to be released (I think that the time frame for believing in that project had long since passed anyway but once BBF and finally DJ walked, anyone who held onto that notion of it being released was in delusion.

Just my opinion of course but I think CD era just got well and truly buried!

Looks like he deleted it. Maybe he jumped the gun.

His tweets are still there... ;)

Singer Tony Harnell is no longer a member of SKID ROW @tonyharnell https://t.co/CEMla612PJ

Skid Row is back with Sebastian Bach

The point I was trying to make is that it's GN'R. GN'R, to me, is bigger than all those other bands anybody who's been in GN'R have been in.
They're supposed to do GN'R songs. Not necessarily choice cuts from bands that existed while people were out of the band.

Maybe it makes no sense. But that's what I was trying to say.

But yeah, in one way, it would be a nice gesture. On the other hand, it would highlight another band....





Somebody mentioned the fact that there are baseball and college stadiums. Good points. The Billboard article did state football stadiums though.

Most of those places are also in the top 25 metropolitan areas of the USA.





/jarmo

http://gnrtruth.proboards.com/thread/2489/twits-tweets?page=41

Picture !!!

In regards to college stadiums, The Stones played at Carter Finley Stadium in Raleigh, NC earlier this year. So playing college stadiums aren't out of question if indeed stadiums are the plan.

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And the "he's fat" storm starts in 3...2...1

In my opionion he's looking adequate for his age, and who knows how recent that picture is.

Hey Doug you were the unscrupulous guy  >:(

He looks good, I just hope he can scream like in 2010 or 2006  :peace:

Thanks for posting. Just saw it on another forum with the accompanying medical reports. :P

Him and Duff could duo (like 14 years, DTJ, DNB) Kill the police by GG allin :yes:

Oscar, that doesn't mean all the ideas for songs, lyrics written, music recorded, etc gets buried.....those songs are free game to be manipulated and released at any time in the future....may be an Axl solo album....may be a Gnr album with Slash adding to them.....yada yada...a lot of money, blood, sweat, and tears invested in those songs and recordings by Axl and Universal.  :-\

I think Axl is in great shape, considering he's a month and a few days shy from his 54th birthday.

Every one is talking about all the stuff that has happened recently with the web page being changed to the old logo and the clip in the movie preview and still saying I don't know which I totally understand given the past. What keeps coming to mind for me is before all this happened and every one was saying what's next is Duffs wife's friend in that vid screaming GnR is back b*tches. I have a good feeling a reunion is happening this time but I will go see the show next time they are around even if it doesn't.

Makes perfect sense... which is why I never understood the people who would argue against Axl, Slash, and Duff in favor of Axl, Bucket, Robin, and Tommy... but again some of them never saw the classic lineup. They never experienced near constant radio play, video rotation (some of them don't know what MTV once was), awards shows almost every year, etc...

BUT what they have seen is an album (which is their White Album for some reason), significant touring, DVD's, an army of bootlegs, some very accessible members of the band (ex. Bumble)... and more importantly they had this and other sites to form a community that suffered together over a long time. We didn't have (or really even need) that back in the 90's. We had it 'easy' from 87-93... they never had it easy, they almost had to 'fight' as fans. I can see why they might actually have a stronger connection to the CD era band than even we do to the classic lineup.

I don't know, sometimes I talk out of my ass, and I'm tired...

Good shape for 54 is not good shape for running around 25 stadium sized stages sounding like one of the greatest front men of all time... When he has looked good for any age, he has sung well, when he has look OK for 'his age' he has had a 'weak' voice live, and struggled with certain songs.

Do we know when that picture is actually from?

I would think if he is willing to do it, he would be working with Duff on his martial arts and mountain bike riding routines to get in 'fighting' shape. Think back to VR, that work out saved Scott Weiland at the time, and may have actually prolonged his tragic life... who knows.

Just to point out: Big time college stadiums (which, FYI, ARE football stadiums) seat roughly 50 to 75k people.  They're not really any smaller than most modern NFL stadiums.  Only difference is who plays there....

Pavarotti was a fat cunt and even with a fuckin cancer he could sing his ass off...In 2010 Axl was overweighted and probably was his best years in the last 15... Voice is not affected by weight plus he doesn't have to jump like a monkey on the stage anymore...He looks good, he obviously could improve a little but if his metabolism works that way, you can't do anything...

Certainly how I see it.

This was less of a one or the other situation and more of a this or nothing situation.

Yeah, I didn't mean it's gonna be NFL only stadiums. Just that the article specified football as the sport. So maybe the baseball stadiums are out of running.

But since most major metropolitan areas in the USA have at least one NFL team, those would be high on the list don't you think?




/jarmo

Baseball would be tougher because its the middle of their season and their field would get fucked up.

They might have a game 2 days later.

Oh, I think the NFL stadiums are the place to go, if thats the option.  They're bigger, and the more modern ones are pretty well appointed in terms of facilities and other amenities.  And I think there are "other" stadium options (like in LA) where there isn't an NFL team near by....maybe not as nice, but certainly useable.

They do have Summer concerts at Fenway every year, they just plan it around things like the All Star Break and longer road trips. They have had The Dropkick Murphy's, Dave Matthew, Rolling Stones, Zac Brown Band, Billy Joel, Neil Diamond, Foo Fighters, Springsteen, Paul McCartney among others... but even those shows were part of a much larger tour than what is being talked about here.

I just think you squeeze more people into a football stadium.

Finally, some common sense. Weight has very little to do with voice (unless we are talking extreme obesity or perhaps anorexia). If I had to choose between 54 yr old Axl being fit enough to run around stage and with a so-so voice and little less "mobile" Axl with a full blown focused voice, I choose latter.

Yeah, and, quite frankly, baseball stadiums are not set up to do concerts as well as football stadiums are, IMHO. At least the ones I've seen at (new) Yankee Stadium and the old Shea Stadium.  They're just not configured NEARLY as well.  Football stadiums definitely work better, with an end zone configured show.  Better site lines, less "dead space", more capacity, etc.

Every time they do a show at Yankee stadium, during the summer, the field gets beat to hell.  It takes weeks for it to recover.

You act like being in shape would be detrimental to singing well. Surely part of performing well is the ability to
Move??

I believe (and I look closer) I read an article about a year ago when the LA Franchise talk was heating up in the NFL that an organization was making some short term upgrades to the LA Colosseum to support a team for a few years until they could be a new stadium built.

theres a few things i agree with here. i dont think hell be forced into it, and i dont think he would do it for money or to be "back on top".

this could be just everyone pretending its gonna happen and hoping hell play along. not likely, but theres a chance. its happened before right? if that was the case and he decided to just ignore it, that would make him pretty awesome by me. it would be a very axl thing to do. now dont get your panties in a twist, i know it looks like its happening, but im talking about a what if here.

i dont feel like my version/era of gnr is dying, but i do think the cd era was very interesting and unprecedented. not to mention, my favorite album came out of it. to see it replaced by something weve already had, and for that to swallow up any prospect of anything new, would be for me the less interesting of two hypothetical alternatives. dont get me wrong, id still be stoked if the band did anything including a reunion, but id be lying if i didnt say new music was what i really wanted.

as fortus pointed out before, this would have to be about more than money. if its not about money, and axl doesnt care about coming out on top again (which i doubt he does), then what is it about?

you could say its about making people happy. i get that. just look around, folks are stoked!

but has that ever been how axl operated? he seems to be about something that is more important to himself than pleasing the masses. so why the quick 180? doing it because he lost 2 guitarists and having no alternative (when there are other alternatives, just not ones that will please people as much) sounds a lot like being forced into it, and i dont see him doing that. unless its come down to some situation where he would be bankrupting himself by not doing it because of some legal stuff or what have you, i dont see him being forced into this.

take it how you want, just my thoughts on the subject for the day.

cool pic by the way! hope whoever threw it up on the net had permission if he was trying to stay hidden.

True.  I'm not sure how far along that is, though.  I've seen articles say the same thing, but they all make it sound like they're holding off til someone commits to actually moving a team there (as in, signs the paperwork).  I've also seen talk that it's revitalization might be part of a 2024 bid for the Olympics.

Edit: Here's the USC plans (https://news.usc.edu/88002/usc-reveals-preliminary-plan-to-renovate-la-coliseum/) for a longer term reno.  Actually, that could get in the way of things more than anything...though it doesn't look like it would start til 2017, in earnest.

But the Rose Bowl would certainly work for an LA area show, too.  Plus, it has some historical significance.

Axl isn't Pavarotti, he doesn't sing that way and he certainly doesn't perform that way. Some people like to ignore the 'weak periods' in Axl's voice is the past 13-14 years or so of touring, but when he sounded the best, he was in the best shape... and to draw a parallel when he sounded the best he was less likely to 'layer' his clothing on stage like he was 'hiding something'

2002 he sounded weak, his voice had no signature bite or rasp (dressed in overly baggy clothes, typically layered with a long sleeve TShirt under the Jerseys)
2006 he sounded amazing (tighter jeans, tshirts, open button downs, etc...)
2010-2013ish he started to struggle, very shrill and high pitched, lost breath occasionally (Leather Jackets zipped up, even in sweltering heat when is bandmates were sweating to death topless)

I'm sure I'll be attacked shortly by a few of the females here that get worried about men criticizing how another man looks, but for people who choose to open there eyes... there is a history here. If he gets in tip top almost athlete shape he performs better... Christ, look a Roger Daltry from The Who, he is 70 and looks like he could go 12 rounds with someone half his age... and he he's never slowed down vocally... the just had an HBO special and he still wails.

And it does hold 92,000 people...

Yeah, and I think in the LA market....they can fill it. :)

And with the recent renos (they've put a ton of money into it since 2011), they've got enough amenities to keep the inevitable crush of celebs that want to attend happy, too.

I see the Rose Bowl as the best LA area option, even though it's in Pasadena but it's not the ONLY option.  It'll be interesting to see, if this all actually happens, which venue they choose there.  In most of the metro areas, it's sort of a no brainer where they would play...but in LA, its a little less obvious.

GMA just ran a piece on the billboard rumor. They've also got the ticker on the bottom of the screen citing the April reunion date as well!! Is this what real publicity and advertising is!?!?

I'm super excited! Just dumbfounded with pure joy.. So ma y possibilities

i think its interesting that people are so bent on throwing this guy on a treadmill. and it makes me think some folks wont ever be happy. we want axl with slash! no no, we want 28 year old axl with slash! no no, we want 28 year old axl with slash, and light sabers! no no, blue light sabers!

its not like hes so big he cant move. he gained a little weight since his youth (who hasnt?) but its not like hes obese.

kenan, why did he sound so good at the end of the last residency? he hadnt really lost any weight then. i think this is just a case of people being shallow and wanting ax to behave according to their standards. more of the same old treating him like an object and hoping he acts like one.

robert daltrys voice is nowhere near as demanding as axls. pretty much no one's is. and how do you explain juan the beast? hes got the best axl impersonation out there, and he aint skinny god bless him.

besides, if people told me to lose weight so i could hypothetically sing and dance better for them, i was a 54 year old rock star, and everyone was going to pay to see my show either way, id laugh.

I think being medically obese...and have no doubt Axl is medically obese in that picture is a) bad for his health, b) bad for his public image and c) bad for the legacy of GNR as far as the reunion performances are concerned🏬
. To say otherwise is to be dishonest
God I wish him the best but I am very worried on all points.

Not sure who Robert Daltry is, but Roger Daltry has a huge range... I love who people talk themselves into this Myth that no one else has a range like Axl, and no one else sings like Axl... I suppose that makes it easier to explain away his 'bad days' I guess.

In my opinion since the original 85-93 period, Axl never sounded better than he did in the 2006-2010 period... and that was when he was in the best shape of his later career. Yes the last residency sounded OK comparative to the previous 2 years of touring, but it never stood up to that 2006-2010 period, and shockingly he was in the best shape of the CD era during that time.

I'm not arguing that he needs to look like a 30 year old Adam Levine... just take a page from his new/old bass player and look more like Duff than Vince Neil, it will help.

And if there were no internet and no tour, but they reunited to just make music again and put out an album??
Would that change your mind on the importance of the guy's appearance?

I just don't get this at all :no:

A couple of things.  First I hope it is all true.  Also the report says NA not U.S. so I would expect 3-5 of the shows to be in Canada and maybe a show in Mexico.

Based on a local radio station asking what people would be willing to pay it sounds like many still don't trust Axl to show up.  

2006 was amazing but the very late start time did not please all fans.

2010 the start times were much better but still to late for the casual fan.  

Doing a large stadium tour may not work right out of the gate.  They may only do a smaller run in 2016 to show the world they are back and can be trusted cause from what I saw on facebook the trust is not there with the casual fans.   I saw GnR 3 times between 2006-2010 so I trust them but I am not convinced that is true to the wider audience.

If Axl grew a beard/stubble he'd look exactly like an older version of himself
(http://s8.postimg.org/qs3s1iwjp/axls_incarnations3.jpg)
(http://s1.postimg.org/y8jdfrytb/axl_then_now.jpg)

lol. it was a typo. nobody sings like axl. that much is true! he has a bigger range than freddie mercury or mariah carey. i never denied he is better on some days than others. the dude is human.

its harder to articulate your opinion than be a dick, and sometimes you end up sounding like a hippie. but im going to be honest here despite that i may come off like a kindergarten teacher. people come in different shapes and sizes. voices and bodies age in different ways. some people sing better after eating a feast. some people cant eat anything before a performance. some vocal techniques are more reliable than others, some are harder on the vocal chords than others. sometimes you just dont feel good so you dont sound as good. the voice is a complicated thing. its not always easy to figure out through observation unless your a voice clinician.

take a look
inside a book
reading raaaainnbowwww!

college football stadiums are likely. most stadium tours usually hit a few. they also typically hit a bunch of baseball stadiums (and speedways) as well. the article did state "football" stadiums so maybe they will actually avoid the baseball stadiums. but there are some college stadiums that are popular for concerts. a few that make a lot of sense due to their locations are LSU, Ohio Stadium, Rose Bowl, and even the Citrus Bowl.

I'm hoping for a philly date, but I'm guessing it's 50-50. if there truly are 25 shows in the U.S. only, the chances certainly go up. that's a lot of shows for a stadium tour. but with shows likely in NY and balt/DC (and because of past GnR history in Philly), it could be a city they skip. we'll see.    

I wonder too.

And despite being both a huge market and a pretty reliable rock town, we get skipped by the bigger acts more than I think logical.

U2, Maiden, Pearl Jam...all missed us their last time through.  And I doubt they would have trouble moving tickets.

Am all about the band moving forward as well.
I just hope that what is going to happen isint a cash grab 80s gnr nostalgia tour, because that aint going to help.


By the way i would be happy if i look like Axl when im his age. I think he looks good (definitely not obese). No need for you girls to start crying beacause he is not the sex symbol he was in 1991

Not a football stadium, but I do hope that they make a stop at the Mets' CitiField.  Foo Fighters played there last summer and by all accounts, all went well.  

I think that's unlikely.  They'll play MetLife, pretty much for sure.

What you don't seem to take in to consideration... is there was no longer a band.... and the band that recorded the songs we haven't heard yet... was NEVER coming back.

I hope no music gets lost in the shuffle here as well...but this is the best news for everybody who wants to see Axl in the fore front again.

Probably right, but I'm hoping for Citifield because, having experienced how different past crowds have been at MSG compared to Meadowlands arena, I think it's more likely that there would be an MSG-like crowd at Citifield.  Being 10 minutes away from Citifield doesn't hurt either.   ;D

George where do you live? (forget that don't post it ha) ... i'm also 10 mins away from Citi .. so that would be amazing...

I do think Giant's stadium (yes I am always going to call it that ) makes more sense.

Yeah, I think it's a capacity and sight lines issue.

If they were doing something like Billy Joel or Springsteen did, with multiple shows in the general area (if not in that specific building)...I think Citi might make the cut.

But considering, if the rumors are correct, the "limited" number of shows?  ESPECIALLY in NYC and LA markets, they're going to take the biggest building they can get.  Because they can fill it, and probably then some.

When I FIRST posted about Metlife being an almost definite candidate...I almost posted "giants stadium".  And then....remembered there ARE some jets fans around here, somewhere. ;)

Think he's referring to that study from a few years back that said Axl had the biggest vocal range, which one can take or leave I guess.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/10848713/Axl-Rose-has-a-larger-vocal-range-than-Mariah-Carey.html

Anyway, I wouldn't worry, even if he's at his worst, which still isn't bad IMO, these concerts will be incredible.  At his best, look the fuck out!  

Citi field has been doing concerts during the summer. I can see Citi getting involved as well.

The band hasn't been moving forward for years now.  And "Appetite For Residency" was not a nostalgia cash grab, as you say?  Sure it was.

Think of it like this.  If you are going to label this a nostalgia cash grab, at least he's using better people.  More relevant people.

Right next door to YOU, the other empty house, the other dead end street and all.   :beer:  

mariah and freddy didnt use rasp the way he does. his vocal technique is more demanding and more punishing. same with robert daltry (kidding about the name). even rod stewart had to have operations done to his vocal chords, and he doesnt push himself anywhere near to axls level. danni filth from cradle of filth had to quit screaming all together last i heard.

not a great singer? really? you dont have to think his voice is the best, but i do  :beer:

I was just saying...that looks like some "evidence" he might be "working into being tip top", right there. It's not definitive, but....

And I will also say.."tip top" at 54 can look VERY different than "tip top" at 34 or 24.  Not to belabor the issue (because, really, it's sort of a crazy thing to proactively argue over before the guy has sung his first note, or before a tour is even announced), but the testosterone levels are not what they were at that point, in most men.  Muscle mass, etc, starts to decline, typically, no matter HOW much you work out/at it. Yes, there are supplements, etc...but the effectiveness and health risks to using them are hotly debated.  BUT, having said that, your cardiovascular health can be as good, if not better, than a 30 year old man who looks chiseled from granite.

In other words, it's possible he could be in fine shape...and to look at him, he's not going to look like he did 10, 15, 20 years ago.

HAHA I thought so...

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Me either.   But I can't post on that site from my iPhone.  I have to be logged on to a regular computer.

i think the maiden tour was just a limited number of dates. But i believe U2 and Pearl Jam both played here on their most recent tours. they have had multiple NA legs to their large tours and we were on at least one of them. typically, we are on the "primary" leg of all the tours. bands alot of times come back and do the "secondary" cities. i think with U2, we ended up on the secondary leg because i do remember my friends being EXTREMLY disappointed when they annouced that huge tour 2-3 years ago. and i know you live in philly and probably listen to MMR, so you've heard all the love at several shows from PJ. i'm sick of hearing that clip of that d-bag nick from MMR. ha! but they've played a ton of shows here.  

the press release does state 25 football stadiums in "North America", so I guess a few will be in Canada and Mexico. definitely a chance Philly gets skipped on this one. if you figure they want to cover as many locations/states as possible and there is only one leg to the tour, leaving philly off would be a possibility since we could go to NY or DC metro. future plans for additional shows will also play a factor in that decision.  

Someone asked about the timing on the picture.  I can't give you an exact time frame, but....

S'Well (from his water bottle) was founded in 2010.

His "smokey eye" water bottle http://www.swellbottle.com/product/smokey-eye/ was part of the 2014 product line update (I can find reviews from early 2014).

I would say that means the picture is from at least mid 2014 to now.

The woman who first put it up said its from last week.

I hope this isn't a stupid question.  If it's a stadium tour would a Chicago stop be in United Center or at Soldier Field?

Cool water bottle. 

I'd believe it.  I think people were looking for a more independant means of authentication (since anyone can say anything on the 'net, and the file, itself, doesn't seem to have any meta tags with dates).

I'd say that, from what we can see, her time frame "jives".

Edit: Did she say WHERE it was taken? Specifically?

Probably Soldier Field.

Also what helps is there was a picture from around December of last year with a fan and Axl had cut his hair short. So, a year's growth of hair fits with how long his hair is there.
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/3a02a19bb1894f08a973a199340cc92d/tumblr_ngos0iOgR51tgqcq7o1_1280.jpg)

I edited the last post, but prolly too late:

Did she say where it was taken?

My guess is it's on The Backbone trail, which is relatively near his house in Malibu (links up a parking area on Latigo Canyon rd and another further into Malibu).  It's good hiking....and a decent work out.

No. I don't have access to the woman's FB (which is apparently where it came from). I'm just quoting the forum where it originally was posted.

Gotcha.  I didn't know if there was more info posted on that forum, or whatever.

Looks like I'm going to be putting some miles on the car and spending a few grand.  No way I'm not hitting up 3-4 of these shows.  :D

Nike liked that photo.  : ok:

Looks like when he went hiking in S.A I remember a picture from then  where he was wearing similar or the same outfit, while the other guys were off dong Yoga, when Duff was filling in.

Which is over a year and a half ago now.  Lot can happen in the meantime.

It actually looks like the street outside of his house. There is very similar foliage on either side of his gate. Not that I've driven by...

Why would you think his height has changed??  :nervous:

j/k  :P



As far as football stadiums go, maybe college stadiums could be an option.
Not from that area but any GNR line-up performing at an 80,000+ capacity University of Notre Dame Stadium in the shadows of Touchdown Jesus would be a sight to behold.  ;D

That would be awesome, I just can't see them passing up the relatively brand new stadium in Indy or Soldiers Field in Chicago (which would be the two closest locations) for Notre Dame. It is also currently under construction which I'm sure will pickup now that the football season is over.

First of all, in general, i think discussion or speculation about Axl's appearance is ridiculous.  Who the hell cares.  I just hope he's on his game as far as the music goes.  (I know the height thing is a joke, not referring to this post.) 

Secondly, I think stadiums are super ambitious.  Not saying they can't pull it off, but that is a tough nut to crack.  During the Illusions tours they only did stadiums with Metallica in the u.s.  Currently the only acts that can consistently sell out stadiums   are Taylor Swift, U2, Stones, Springsteen and thats about it.

ACDC did a stadium tour and we're selling half to 3/4 of the tix.  Thats fine for them as they get paid upfront but not a great look for the band when they are selling tickets for $10 on groupon. 

Unless Guns was going out with another BIG name, unless im underestimating the demand, i would think that arenas would be the call.  Especially over the summer in the US the arenas arent booked for shit so they could keep adding shows in the better markets like new york chicago LA etc. 

I was being a bit snarky, admittedly.

But..people also do tend to "shrink" a bit as we get older.  Disc compression in the spine and bone density decreases can cost some people as much as and inch or so as they get older.

Typically, though, that starts to become noticeable in your mid to late 60's, not mid 50's. :)

"Do you know where you are?!"

The spotlights come up. All of Coachella takes in a collective breath of absolute shock to see a now 3 foot tall Axl looking like Verne Troyer playing dress-up.  : ok: :P

OT..and mods can feel free to delete if it's just behind the scenes moderating going on:

Is something wacky going on with the boards? I saw this thread go from 20 pages (about half a page of posts) to 19...and from the "root" GnR thread saw 2 or 3 phantom "RE:[Title of existing topic]" threads pop up that, when clicking on them, resulted in an error message (one forbidden error, one weird "data not sent" error).

I know this is not the thread for the topic...and I'm putting a version in admin/feedback, too...but figured I'd give a heads up in the most active thread in case the database is getting hosed on the back end.

I did some cleaning. Unfortunately some seem to focus on the wrong things. As usual.

So much for all the positivity!



/jarmo

Thanks! Thought I was going crazy (still possible, just not in this, I guess) or the boards were crashing down!

I see what's been cleaned.  Still think there's ONE on p 16 (now) on the same topic. ;)

Anyone wondered how they're going to go terminology wise with the press release, assuming the hybrid lineup thing is true? Can't really call it a classic lineup reunion, or an Appetite reunion or whatever. My prediction is whatever video trailer we get if we get one will go for the individual names of the main 3.

'for the first time in over 20 years

Axl

Slash

Duff'

Then flash up the classic logo. I'd say that would do the job.

With this playing in the background.  :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpRap-zHZHY

PERFECT! Someone get this man a contract.  :rofl:

That's why I'm not convinced that Adler and Izzy won't be involved, at least in some way
Probably go with a Guns N Roses & Friends mantra, which could include all,some or none of anyone associated with this band ..ever

Somewhat timely, and on that note (and granted, this is globally):

http://loudwire.com/acdc-sold-more-tickets-any-touring-act-2015/

They might not be selling out but a) they seem to be making money for promoters and b) it seems like they'd be "too big" for arenas, and leave money on the table.

I think, in many markets, you might see GnR do the same thing...fill the stadium 3/4 of the way.  Thats enough, and pretty freaking impressive in this music climate.

In NYC, LA, Miami, and maybe some other select markets? I'd expect near sell outs.

I definitely think Izzy will pop up there a few times... he is very close with all parties... don't see why he wouldn't on at least a part time basis.

I think it's a pretty good bet Izzy will pop up to do some songs, at some shows, as he sees fit.  I'd be surprised if he wasn't at Coachella, if GnR is there.

Adler?  I just don't know. For an unannounced guest shot, I suppose, maybe.  Because if something happened and it fell through....well, no big deal.  But this is the "piece" I would say, given everything, is least likely.

But then, 8 months ago I would have said the same about Axl, Slash, and Duff ever sharing a stage together, so.....

Fair point, however there are two major factors you need to take into account.  First is that their ticket prices were tired at approx

1. $120
2. $95
3. $45

The billboard article, granted its not necessarily correct was talking about tix ranging up to 250-275 ea. 

The larger issue in my opinion is that AC/DC kind of fly's under the radar with their touring as compared to a  GNR reunion tour.   If there isn't an element of exclusivity or scarcity of supply it can create the sense that the tour isn't a big deal after all.  It's kind of like the nightclub effect.  The longer the line, the hotter the club.  Find a club with no line and you'll quickly see the regulars move on.  Anyhow, when tours like this happen, the media jumps on the story and can really impact the public perception of it.  I personally would like to see this tour be an overwhelming success.  Not just for Guns but for the genre in general.   

If the Kimmel thing is real, I guess we'll know on Saturday.

They usually post next weeks guests that day.

THe line-up I think will tie up with the gambling machine, others members being hired guns rather than partners

I hear you.
Just think it would add a little more spice to an already incredible happening...they may just say it's gonna be Axl, Slash & Duff and a set combo of other players..but then that depending on the city or location you could see a host of surprise guests and leave it open to the possibility of Adler grooving to some Appetite stuff...Sorum on some Illusion stuff...Izzy here and there...this is how I'd approach it at least  :peace:

We'll know about jimmy kimmel next week unless it's a surprise appearance and that will not be listed or it will be listed under a different name for impact purposes  :beer:

Wasn't Gn'r The frogs at the vmc's 2002?

I'm assuming that 250 is upper tier pricing, but we'll see.  It's steep..but it's also been 22 years since some of these guys shared a stage, collectively.  That's going to drive demand, so they can probably get away with premium pricing this go round.


AC/DC has also been touring, regularly, together for the last 30+ years.  

THESE particular members (assuming rumors are true) of GnR haven't toured under the banner, together, in over 20.   That's going to make it a hot ticket.  25 shows in NA, for 50 states, Canada, and Mexico is going to drive demand, too.  Stadiums sound like they offer ample supply, but they will likely, each, be drawing from multiple states and metro areas.

I get the "exclusivity" argument, but...unless you're talking the pop princess shows, it hasn't ever really seemed to hold that kind of sway over rock fans.  Whether the show sells out, or not, won't (I don't think) effect ticket sales for THIS particular go round of shows.  The "reunion" itself is enough to make the ticket noteworthy and create buzz.  

I'd like to see Guns be successful because I'd like to see them continue to tour, down the road.  I don't have any illusions (pun intended) that this will revitalize the rock genre around the world (and again, I refer back to earlier posts on the topic...I mean "real" rock and roll, not what the Billboard charts have redefined rock to be).  It would be nice, but I think that's putting a little too much on Guns shoulders, at this point.

Would GN'R play a concert in the LA area if they are playing Coachella?

I would think so... There is huge demographic swing in the person who would go to a festival vs. a stadium with seats and much better amenities.

Probably?

I guess it would depend on when their "summer" tour starts.  If it's pretty much right after Coachella (which, really, is in the spring), maybe not.

But if they do Coachella, and then start the stadium leg in, say, June or later?  Yeah, I think you tack on the CA shows at the end: First in San Fran, then finish up in LA.  You could do it the other way, too, I guess...start in LA and work east.

Plus, those are going to be very different shows, with very different audiences and demos.

I would also think a lot of people in the area would want to go and won't be able to get in to Coachella due to availability and maybe pricing.

.        http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-splits-with-singer-tony-harnell/

.        http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-splits-with-singer-tony-harnell/

Yeah, I read the Skid Row thing a while back

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/sebastian_bach_is_interested_in_gnr_and_skid_row_reunion_tour.html (https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/sebastian_bach_is_interested_in_gnr_and_skid_row_reunion_tour.html)

A reunited Skid Row is a pretty big deal too, but I'm not sure how many extra tickets they'd sell. Baz has been pretty tame and quiet of late though, hasn't he? They could very well be included, maybe a modern band too?

I am a big Skid Row fan, having both bands would be extraordinary

Very well said. Painted a perfect picture as to why some may love the CD era of Guns over any other. Obviously doesn't work for everyone, but there are reasons if you open your mind to them.

IDK. I think without being associated with Gn'r or Axl...a reunited Skid Row has all of the draw and demand these days to maybe fill
my local bar & grill

Not going through a 20 page thread but IF those ticket prices are to be believed they're a shade on the high side,unless of course you just want suits in the front row of the gig,certainly makes the ?45 quid i paid to see the band back in 2012 an utter bargain.

You are probably right. It was wishful thinking on my part that it would be United Center cuz I don't like shows at Soldier Field. My boss and some of the doctors I work with are huge GNR fans so hopefully we will all see a kickass GNR show this summer!  

If 300 is on the high side for the most expensive seat n the house.   I would say that is very reasonable.   I suppose it just comes from where you are at     

I am sure there will be some lower end 100 tickets far away from the stage. 

There will probably also be a $30 blue ray released as well. 

It's always cheaper to stay home.  And if a couple of hundred bucks is someone's make it or break it point in life they probably should just stay home.   

I for one would be willing to pay a lot more to see slash and Axl on stage again

I agree, there is no real draw there. Skid Row was never 'the next big thing' like GnR was back in the day. I could see a reunited Skid Row on a late 80's/early 90's nostalgia tour with Poison.

If you thought that GnR needed another act to fill seats, it would need to be someone popular today. You may even be able to get an act that could fill an ampitheater or small arena themselves to sign on... Think of when GnR signed on to open for the Rolling Stones in Europe.

I'm personally so happy about the news, even though a lot can still happen before April. I believe this comeback when I see it with my own eyes, but so far everything looks promising. IF the comeback happens, I just hope that everybody will prepare for it properly, I don't want to see Axl getting out of breath on the stage because he hasn't trained well enough for the live set etc.. I want to see something like we saw in 2009-2010 from Axl, that's enough for me.

Whoa there baby i paid ?300 this summer for two tickets for Fleetwood Mac so personally paying high prices isnt new to me,but i'll say this it isnt a full reunion by any means (dont suppose it could be with Adler) and those prices,again if true thats on the high side,so why play to half empty stadiums when you lower them to fill them,ive always thought that i dont care about the act whoever is playing unless you're a guaranteed sell out nowadays and simply put there's not many of them left are there?

If that can't fill the stadiums.   They won't be playing them. 

The line up still hasn't even been anounced.   It could vary from city to town

i suppose this won't be the show for you then.   If you wanted a smaller guns show at a cheaper price you had that the past 10 years

If they half fill a Stadium that is more seats/tickets/people than if you pack an arena to the rafters.

Me too... that would be a dream show

It's a valid point. Plus I still challenge that the Gn'r with Bumble, DJ, Dippy, Droopy and Sneezy had a shot to fill up a stadium 50-75% depending on the city..just because of Axl and the Gn'r name. Some places no chance, but I'm telling you in NY area Gn'r are still enormous.
A reunited lineup will max out Metlife stadium with proper time and advertising

That's where I think they are.

I think in most major markets, they can fill more than an arena, but perhaps not a full stadium.

So do you take the guaranteed 100% sold out arena, or the 70% full stadium.  Dunno.  Not sure what they numbers and projection indicate.

No chance in hell.

First off, you could probably not even get that booked.  You can't just book a venue based on your hunch and hope people show up.  They did this in 2002 and lost their shirts. 

You'd have to have numbers and projections that support your premise. Axl and a bunch of guys named Harry aren't moving 40,000 tickets anywhere, even calling it Guns N' Roses.

A stadium tour with Axl & Slash is no slam dunk.  Stadium tours are very, very hard endeavors in the U.S.  Unless you are Taylor Swift, Beyonc?, or some country festival...very tough.  Even U2 moved back to arenas.

Even if it might be more expensive (I don't know) to arrange a stadium concert, I think they'll make more money overall from the latter option.

I didn't think it could get much better than Axl bringing GnR back in 2006, or finally releasing Chinese Democracy. 

This all truly seems too good to be true.  I can't even process the possibility of a Bach-fronted Skid Row in the picture, too.

There are SOME economies of scale.  I've only done spot work for stadiums...and it was a LONG time ago as a "loaner" when I was working at the New Haven Colliseium...but it's not, say, 2x to 3x as expensive to run a stadium show as it is to run an arena show.

I don't know the break even point, but...yes..it's "more expensive", but not "as expensive" per seat, say.

I still love Skid Row, but often assume I am something of a voice in the wilderness there.

As to your other point, I was actually more excited about the return in 2006 than I was for the album.  After the 2002 disaster, the more time wore on, I assumed he was giving up.  To have him not only come back, but look and sound so awesome was great.

But once he did come back, I sort of knew the album would be dropped eventually.  So not as much of a surprise factor, at least for me.

If they played stadiums there'd be at least 2 support slots. Probably 3. And no offense to Baz but I don't see reunited Skid Row being a big enough draw to be anything other than bottom of that bill.

Completely agree on all points.  I happen to still rock out to 'Monkey Business' and 'Sweet Little Sister', but am under no delusions how much of a minority that puts me in.

They would need something of a name for a stadium gig.  I agree.

Maybe AFI? Panic at the Disco? My Chemical Romance? Muse? Disturbed? Avenged Sevenfold? Paramore? Or, you know...Alter Bridge. :P  I think any of those (and there's probably a ton more) that could take the "2nd" slot.

Hahahaha

Alter Bridge

Those are all great choices, I think a band like Avenged or Paramore would bring a fair amount of their own fans with them.  A stadium show would require a bigger opening act and those bands are definitely good choices.  Also he is definitely too big to be an opener, but Jack White is a huge GNR fan.  I could see him doing it as a "very special guest" not an "opener."  If he did it there wouldn't be an empty seat in any of these stadiums, not that I anticipate many empty seats.  This is the biggest rock band of our lifetime here.

I mean..I couldn't resist.

Towards the end of their stadium days, the Stones were doing different people in different cities.  Big names too.

Was that always your sig?  That's awesome.  One of the favorite movies of my youth.

I still post 'Somebody's Getting Married' on the FB feed of any friend that gets hitched.

Nope, I just changed it, today...in honor of a previous post, and 'cause it's sort of fitting, if things play out.

Prior to that, it was the "Shut up and sing" stanza from Sorry...and had been since a few days before CD's release.

A reformed My Chemical Romance would be interesting. I went to see them a few years back and it was full of kids. Paramore were good live, the last concert I saw though was awful, and again it was full of kids

Muse would be a good choice.

Anyone else having trouble accessing gunsnroses.com right now?

No, seems to be okay? The old logo, as before..

I get the website yes, but I can't log on to my account..


It says:


Abort: Recursive loop. .

Nope I was just on there everything seemed to be fine for me.

You're able to log on too?


Sorry to bring the topic OT... I'll pose the question in the appropriate thread.

Yep. Logged on looked around made a reply.

Okay, so, still focusing on all the positives with GnR, although a Bach-fronted Skid Row to open would have been pretty amazing.


http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/skid-row-vows-to-continue-following-tony-harnells-departure-shoots-down-sebastian-bach-reunion-talk/

A GNR reunion was probably the least likely one in the history of music.

There's hope for everyone now... :)

The Coachella news is really catching fire. I saw a short report about it on my local cbs 11 news.

Anyone know how many festival passes are usually released in January?

I think most of them were sold in the summer.

Same thing my best friend said when I talked about GNR rumors  :rofl:

I've seen a couple people say this...and I think they are right... both drummers have been just tooooo damn quiet lately... My money says at least one of them is in.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/30/arts/music/coachella-lands-two-big-reunions-guns-n-roses-and-lcd-soundsystem.html

Coachella Lands Two Big Reunions: Guns N? Roses and LCD Soundsystem

By BEN SISARIODEC. 30, 2015

Living up to its tradition as the premier forum for rock ?n? roll reunions, the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival will host at least two of them in 2016: Guns N? Roses ? a gigantic get ? and LCD Soundsystem.

The music world has been buzzing for months about a possible reunion for Guns N? Roses, after Slash, the band?s original lead guitarist, suggested in interviews that he had finally reconciled with Axl Rose, its singer, ending a two-decade feud. After the original band fell apart in the mid-1990s, Mr. Rose maintained the Guns N? Roses name, releasing ?Chinese Democracy,? one of rock?s longest-gestating albums, in 2008 ? after some 13 years of work and untold millions of dollars in production expenses ? and he has toured with various new members over the years.

Now, some version of the classic Guns N? Roses will headline the next Coachella, which will return to Indio, Calif., on April 15-17 and April 22-24, according to a person with direct knowledge of the festival?s plans, who was not authorized to discuss it publicly. The festival is expected to announce the lineup early next week.

Besides Slash and Mr. Rose, it is unclear who else will participate. Its classic lineup, which played on the band?s 1987 debut album, ?Appetite for Destruction,? also included the guitarist Izzy Stradlin, the bassist Duff McKagan and the drummer Steven Adler, who was kicked out in 1990.

News of Guns N? Roses? return was first reported by Billboard, which also said that the band was looking to book a major stadium tour next year ? which, if it happens, could easily be one of the biggest rock tours in years, with top ticket prices likely. Mr. Rose is expected to make an announcement about the future of Guns N? Roses on ?Jimmy Kimmel Live!? next week.

The next Coachella will also feature the return of LCD Soundsystem, the dance-rock band led by James Murphy, which last performed in a farewell show at Madison Square Garden in 2011. Rumors of an LCD comeback surfaced on Dec. 24, after the group released a new song, ?Christmas Will Break Your Heart,? on its website.

A spokesman for LCD Soundsystem declined to comment. Representatives of Guns N? Roses and Coachella did not return numerous requests for comment.

Coachella?s high-profile reunions over the years have included the Pixies in 2004, Rage Against the Machine in 2007 and Outkast in 2014. For its 2015 edition, which featured AC/DC, Drake, the Weeknd and Jack White, the festival collected $84 million in ticket sales, according to Billboard, making it by far the most lucrative festival in the country.

Coachella is presented by Goldenvoice, a California concert promoter that is owned by the global concert giant AEG Live.

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/jarmo

Ok guys...thats really the fat lady singing on the speculation. I'm not a fan of unnamed sources, but...thats the new york fucking times confirming it.

Its fucking tuesday.

I posted this a couple of days ago... Eddie Meehan (president of Wonderful Union) started following Slash on twitter recently.

Just now, he's following Duff as well.

Billboard, Rolling Stone, NYTimes... this is happening. No doubt.