Here Today... Gone To Hell!

By "we", I don't just mean this forum, but the entire GN'R online community that is squeeing and in an uproar over the idea that a reunion is imminent.

Let's be honest...Axl and Slash didn't mend their fences until sometime late last year or even into this year. You really think that's enough time to:

1) Clear away 20+ years of crap
2) Hug and be best friends again
3) Decide to want to reunite
4) Set the wheels in motion

I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but as much as I desperately want an Axl/Slash reunion, I don't see it happening or any announcement coming anytime "soon." I suspect January 6th will roll past with some other band announced as the headliner of Coachella, possibly some new version of newGNR.

With regard to the TV ad featuring the Argentina '93 show footage, well, it wouldn't be the first time a newGNR show was promoted with old GN'R imagery.

I am not saying this is the deal, I have no inside info. All I am saying is, how do we know this isn't just some giant troll to build hype for a new tour with totally new members and the release of the Chinese Democracy II album?

I mean given history, can you really not foresee January 6th coming and "GUNS N' ROSES" with two brand new, unknowns as the new lead guitarists and someone new announced as bassist, with no hint of anything involving a reunion?

All I am saying is we should keep our expectations incredibly low. Because I think everyone who is so certain that all these clues mean a reunion and everyone is all excited is going to be let down big time.

Ya know, this was my concern really up until this past weekend.

But dude, they put a friggin' teaser trailer in front of Star Wars while simultaneously changing the official website to ONLY feature the original 87-93 band logo.

I think it's safe to say the writing's on the wall.

No.

Bottom line is, something seems to be going on with GN'R. That's awesome!

But then again, 99.999% of the GNR online fan community thinks I'm about as cool as AIDS.... So what do I know....



/jarmo

So you don't think the fans who are squeeing over what seems to them to be a set in stone reunion of at least Axl, Slash and Duff won't be massively disappointed come January 6th when there's no mention of a reunion and the band just rolls out two totally new players? This is who my thread was aimed at, but you knew that.

To think that a reunion isn't going to be announced very soon at this point is just asinine. You must be a huge pessimist to think that at this point.   

You once said Slash discussion in the main section was not allowed because it was not for "people who tried to destroy Guns N' Roses".  AIDs may have been a strong word.  The flu maybe?  :hihi:

But seriously, I'm just breakin' balls Jarmo.  This is a happy time for all fans.  Don't ruin it by picking fights!

Given the history of this band, I tend to expect the worst and hope for the best.

Now I want Kool Aid.  ;D

how can we be sure they've mend their fences? it's a honest/simple question. Why are we not doubting/questioning this?

I think we should be more careful with the premises we are using.

Picking fights? No. Just reminding you of what you've said.  : ok:
You're a funny guy.

Yeah, and I'm truly sorry that I didn't allow you to discuss Slash solo stuff in the GN'R section when GN'R were out touring or being active. I realize this must've hurt your feelings or something.





That's on them.

You know, whatever happens, somebody will be pissed off for some reason.  :hihi:
That won't change.



/jarmo

Because the writing is on the wall. The reunion is happening.

Really? Who's gonna be the drummer and the rhythm guitarist at this reunion?

Frank and Richard..."supposedly"... ;D

If we stick to what we know, it's not you or me.... So we're ruled out. Now we're getting somewhere...  :hihi:



/jarmo

Looking at the facts and not let any speculation or rumors play a role:

- Slash said the feud between him and Axl is over
- Dj and Bumblefoot are out
- Going by comments made, it seems at least Richard and Frank are still in
- Classic GNR art is used in new merchandise
- The GNR Facebook page removed the line-up info
- The website was altered to show the bullet logo
- Twitter and Facebook changed profile pictures to show a crowd
- A crowd is featured in a GNR teaser in the movie theaters in the US


There's no hard evidence that points to a reunion really. The bullet logo argument that has been made is that Slash owns the rights to that. I'm not so sure about that. Firstly, remember the belt buckle. Secondly, the black and whit bullet logo used as a background on the merch site says Copyright 2009 Black Frog Entities Inc. Does Slash really own this artwork? I know he designed it, but I don't know if he has any say in when/where it's used.

The reason the bullet logo wasn't used much since 2001 might just be that Axl wanted to make a distinction of line-ups. When he returned in 2001 with a bunch of new people, he wanted to start somewhat fresh and that included a brand new logo - going with the Chinese-theme. When the Chinese-era now might be over, he wanted to revert to the "standard" logo, prepping for the next chapter (still might not include anyone from the past).





We have filled in the blanks up until now, assuming a reunion of sorts. I have certainly done so. Things are pointing in that direction accounting rumors/rumblings and speculation, and at this point I would say it seems likely.

But we shouldn't forget that there's really no hard evidence that supports this, and we might have set us up for a disappointment.





Now, for me personally, if it turns out this whole thing marks the start of the next GNR chapter with a new album and brand new line-up, I won't be disappointed really. We won't get what we expected, but still I think that would be equally exciting.

I can already see the disappointed faces when GNR hits the the stage with a brand new line-up and not with Slash N' Duff.  Be careful with assumptions. Just saying.

The fanclub just closed to all new members.  You can no longer join in.  Makes me think presales for something are coming and this prevents scalpers from joining in

ah, now i see the ''reunion''. Thanks!

Perhaps - Yes

However, despite dysfunction historically, there is something else to consider that points the arrow in the right direction

I won't speak for anyone else, but I've got people both friends and family that have suddenly started asking me about this thing happening.
If my cousin Trixie in Pennsylvania is aware, then the notion that the Big 3 are both oblivious to these rumours and have not squashed them hard by now is a little tough to accept

Like it or not - Gn'r as it's existed in the past couple of decades is something quite different than a Gn'r with Slash and Duff back in the mix
They were the modern day version of the Stones or Zeppelin at one glorious point in time - and this reaction to just rumours and speculation only affirms that position

Even if we're let down in the end, who gives flying fuck - Things are alive and hope is good thing brother

I would say Frank and Fortus will be the permanent players on tour and moving forward but Adler & Izzy will be playing shows as well.

Its a big GnR family :)

I know it's not definitive proof, but within the last week or so, Michael H (who plays in a side band with Richard and Frank) posted a link to an article about the reunion which names Frank and Richard and said something along the lines of 'This is going to be awesome"... The post was then 'liked' by Richard Fortus...

You have had Duffs wife and her friend out when the friend made a comment about the band getting back together (Duff's wife didn't deny it real time and it was never shot down)
You had SIXX AM make comments about the reunion
You had Scott Wieland (who played with AFD/UYI members and Ron Thal) make reunion comments
You have a guy that plays with Richard and Frank make a reunion comment

None are shot down, none are responded too... every person who made a comment has a tie to the band in some way.

There is starting to be too much smoke and no sign of a fire department.

No, I don't think so.

First and foremost, and at the most basic level...what the fuck else do we really have right now?  Nada.  So I'm pretty unclear what we are risking here.

And like Jarmo said in one of the first posts in this thread, no matter what is up, it appears they are active again.

How is that bad? 

I'm all in.

Yeah, I can confirm this.

I signed up last month, but did not properly activate it or something.

And now I can't.  Damn it.

Of course, the homepage still lists memberships for 2013-14, so who the fuck knows if that is even the fan club going forward.

Could just be locked out while they make updates and changes to the site ???

Just seems like updates and changes to me.  This years membership package was not available until March 2015 so there was a lapse with members who were waiting to sign up or renew with the new package.  If there is a new package before March I plan to renew but guessing it will be sorted out by then.  Hopefully the photo galleries will be returned to the site.

I've been able to log in and navigate the dashboard account. and it took my renewal payment for the  $10 digital membership but it still denies me access to the nightrain? I contacted wonderfull union, no reply...?

It is a very valid question and concern, shared by, I dare say, many GNR fans.

However, the fact is that none of them has denied the reunion rumours. These are not some random postings on some fan message boards that as such should not be given attention let alone publically addressed. These have been picked up by online media and are still being reported by many websites and persons in the industry. Now add the classix logo and changes to their website/online social media pages AND the fact that none of the members publically released a statement denying the rumours, I believe now, it is more than "wishful thinking" the actual reunion will take place. We have actuall indicators pointing to that direction.

Now, the only reason, as I see it, neither Axl, Slash or anyone from the GNR camp (including original members) wouldn't publically deny the rumours (if the reunion is in fact not going to happen), also being aware of the noticable media and fanbase interest, is because they would simply not care about the fans and the fans' expectations - which in turn would all make them a bunch of assholes.
Now, in my opinion, this is highly unlikely (all of them being bunch of assholes trolling the fans for no reason) and what I actually believe is the opposite: the reunion is in the works and  they are just keeping quiet untill everything is sorted out.

The reunion wouldn't mean just GNR collecting huge sums of money, it would mean money pouring in for everyone involved, including organizers, brands (Gibson, Epiphone for example). It's a big deal and quite a project. You just don't go out and comment on something that has not yet been set in stone (with so much money involved) and this is why they are keeping it quiet.

Or they could simply be assholes trolling us.

Its very obvious a reunion is taking place. I understand you don't want to get let down yet again so you are not even entertaining the possibility but its clearly happening.

Its very clear that Slash and Duff are back in the band.

Wait about another 7 days and then you can come out of your state of denial.

got me !!! : ok:

super

dude, I dont know what you want. Nothing is concrete until it happens obviously. And GnR land even when its set in stone, things can change. But for the time being its very reasonable to believe that Slash and Duff are back. If you want concrete facts, I cant help you.

Bridge,

As long as anyone of them is being active in the music industry i.e. earning money from fans by doing concerts, tours, appearances etc., they are morally obligated to address those same fans when needed. These are, as previously stated, long-lasting rumours (since August, so that makes it what, 4 months now?), with lots of media coverage and, again, people from the industry hinting at it. What does it matter if Axl denied previous rumours? How much of his time and effort would take to post a tweet saying. "It is not happening."? While it may take away app. 45 seconds of his life it would also save a lot more people/fans' time hanging around these message boards, refreshing the threads and looking for new developments/clues on the possible reunion (we, the fans, are mortal as well and our time as such is also precious, don't you think?). So if this all is a fairytale, just say so, simple as that. Everything else is just a poor excuse and bad ethics.

Wrong (again).  Axl denied the rumors years ago.  He's said nothing this time.  #fact.  In the past, he repeatedly shot down reunion rumors. #anotherfact.  Honestly, what else could you possibly want to understand that a reunion is happening?  It's clear you're not on board with it, but don't let that fool you from what's actually happening.  How else do you explain the revised website?  The Star Wars teaser?  

Its very clear that its happening.

You'll get proof when it happens.

Let me spell this out for you, because apparently I wasn?t laying it on thick enough.

2009 ? reunion rumors.  Axl forcefully shoots them down.

2012 ? reunion rumors, more intense than before.  Axl (again) forcefully shoots them down.

2015 ? reunion rumors, more intense than ever.  Axl says nothing.  Website updated to classic logo, former band members advocating for a reunion, etc.

Which year is different?  Also, I?m sure there were other instances in the past where Axl spoke negatively towards a reunion.  '09 and '12 are two that come to mind.  So now, you think Axl?s going to completely change how he operates and not address the rumors?  And I?m the dense one?

No, before it actually happens, the majority of fans are talking about the when it happens.

Oh you're right, people are definitely talking.  But if it's so "very clear" already, then you should be able to provide actual proof that all the talking actually means something concrete.  All these ridiculous little clues only add up in the minds of those that do a lot of talking.

you are Gold until 2015...facts are Axl has said nothing and what former band members say is actually meaningless..cough cough...Adler, Sorum, Clarke, et al... Plus, Duff nor Slash nor Izzy has said ONE word about it.

Stars are aligning but let's not get ahead of ourselves by proclaiming set in stone truths vs circumstantial eveidence.  :-\

What about a 3 guitar attack of Fortus, Izzy, and Slash? Hmmm.....Sky Dog's pipe dream..... :hihi:

Indeed, but good luck trying to sell that one to them my friend!   :P

you guys are great. i love this board. im still in the it could go either way camp. im with bridge in that theres no direct proof, but i also see how one could easily come to the conclusion that its on. i wont be disappointed either way. im stoked something is going on, and i am enjoying reading all the speculation.

plus, Axl and Izzy started Gnr.....how can it be a reunion without Izzy?  :P

Just another lineup of Gnr.....ask Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Kiss, Allman Brothers, Skynrnd, etc etc etc about that.

Oh RJ, only once in a few thousand threads does someone humble us with such relaxed innocence.  Here's to ya.   :beer:

Immature and entitled would imply asking for something that is not deserved or earned. I don't think, as a 20+ years supporting fan, it would be "immature and entitled" of me to simply ask for any of the band members (current or former) to post a simple tweet or a statement denying four months long rumours, which are, due to the noticable media coverage and other recent developments (changes to band's website and social media pages) as other folks tried to explain it to you, nothing like the previous ones which were, as already pointed to you, denied in their tracks sort to speak. This is not some Joe Fan posting stuff on a message board and all of us suddenly "demanding" Axl or Slash to respond to it. That would be "immature and entitled" to ask for or to expect, but however, this is a completely different situation. These are not eighties anymore, meaning - none of them has to schedule a press conference or a TV interview, go to a radio station or talk show to deny the rumours. As I already tried to explain it to you (albeit, with very little success), all it would take for any of them (let's leave out Axl as you appear to be too emotional when discussing him) is to make a short statement via their official social media pages if indeed there is no truth to reunion rumours.

The band doesn't "owe" me anything personally, but it does owe to thousands of loyal fans who are interested to find out if there is any truth about the reunion rumours which are ongoing and which do not appear to "fade out" after many months of circulation - on the contrary, they seem to be gaining more traction.

If you still think we are asking too much, well, look around, you appear to be in minority here. Of course, we could all be delussional and you the only beacon of sanity in this thread, but, please forgive me if I'm not inclined to believe that's the case.

I posted this before... but this isn't Adler making these comments. This is coming from people tied to AFD members (Duff) and CD members (Richard, Frank, Bumble, DJ)

I know it's not definitive proof, but within the last week or so, Michael H (who plays in a side band with Richard and Frank) posted a link to an article about the reunion which names Frank and Richard and said something along the lines of 'This is going to be awesome"... The post was then 'liked' by Richard Fortus...

You have had Duffs wife and her friend out when the friend made a comment about the band getting back together (Duff's wife didn't deny it real time and it was never shot down)
You had SIXX AM make comments about the reunion
You had Scott Wieland (who played with AFD/UYI members and Ron Thal) make reunion comments
You have a guy that plays with Richard and Frank make a reunion comment

None are shot down, none are responded too... every person who made a comment has a tie to the band in some way.

There is starting to be too much smoke and no sign of a fire department.

There will be an announcement when the information is ready to be publicly released.

Nobody "owes" you for being a fan- if you buy an album you get to own the music, if you buy a ticket you get to see a show, if you buy merch- it's yours to keep.

I'll refrain from quoting the lyric from Sorry- but thinking you are "owed" is entitled nonsense.

Ya know im not one who likes to stir the pot here but for all you who are asking for "wheres the Proof" what is this Law & Order you need a detective to bring you proof before you believe something is happening. And why would anyone want to question if this is actually happening everybody should be getting behind this because there is absolutely nothing else that would indicate something else was happening like CD II.

So for anyone who is questioning this stop and get behind it and support it because right now this is all thats left to get behind this band because when something does get announced all these people questioning it are gonna jump right on the bandwagon because no one is going to say oh i don't want a reunion im done with GNR now.

Could not agree more with everything here.

Not being onboard with this is basically saying you are cashing out.  Because its this...or nothing.

Even if you want to say this is not a lock...OK, fine.  Say that.  None of us can really tell you that is wrong.

But compare everything we know about this, some of it circumstantial as can be, but some pretty real signs...and compare that to "looking very seriously in that regard".

And you tell me what looks like our better bet.

I am getting pretty excited for something.

Anything.

The only way I will be disappointed is if there is nothing.

If anything comes from this

I will be very happy!!

I would give Jarmo karma if I could here....

I feel like someone has said these exact same lines before.  We will all know one way or another by January 5th.  I would be surprised if it was before then.

I had heard this before and paraphrased it- it is still true.

Soon is a good word now :D

Wow, pretty sure if I typed this aggressive stuff I'd be in line for a lecture from the powers that be on here.

You need to chill out a bit dude  :D

I've been as doubtful about the band's future as anyone and found it easy to dismiss reunion talk simply because Axl and Slash have not said anything to indicate one was happening. Axl for the most part isn't very communicative with his fans, so him not addressing the rumors could be put down to exactly that: Axl doesn't tell us what's going on.

But now, with this ad I'm fairly convinced. You don't throw Star Wars money at your 3rd Vegas residency.

Most importantly to me, you don't let your fans all believe a reunion is coming just to pull the old switcheroo on them. If it was anything other than a reunion, that rumor could have been put to bed with a Tweet in 20 seconds. If these ads signify anything other than a reunion, Axl has basically killed his career and found a way to make one of the most starved-for-new-material fanbases in rock history actually disappointed by the announcement of new material. Despite some bad decisions over the year's Axl Rose is not and never has been a stupid man.

To not understand why we'd be talking about this is pretty dense. To not understand that we'd be excited by this, as a fan of many years, whatever.  What would you prefer we talk about?  I can't see how this doesn't happen now, and I was one that believed it never would.I am just happy that Axl will be active again, and this is the best scenario for him to be relevant, which to me is great!

Nope, not me....Don't care what the lineup is, I'm in!

Duff posted this yesterday! :)

http://www.alternativenation.net/reunited-guns-n-roses-planning-new-material-duff-mckagan-shares-rehearsal-photo/

Shouldn't Slash's projects be moved into the GnR part of the message board now that the band are getting back together?

We dont know anything for sure yet... lets wait and see what happens

what can i say, this is a magical time for the residents of gnr land. activity after a hiatus... its like christmas for us. in america, porn site activity goes down by 30 perecentish on christmas. in japan it oddly enough raises by a similar margin. i wonder if gnr landers are looking at less porn these days?

i appreciate you taking on the role of resident skeptic! its a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it.

No, at least not for me.

To be massively disappointed, I'd have to have high expectations that a specific, certain, outcome was definitively happening.  That's not going to happen, for me, until there is an actual announcement, or something more concrete than rumors and teaser of questionable meaning.

Right now, we have a mystery that could have multiple solutions.  One seems more apparent, and thus is getting more discussion, than the others..  And I'm perfectly happy to engage in that speculation. It's interesting.  But really, all we know is it's "something".

The only way I'm disappointed is if it all falls to shit, and ends up being "nothing". And doubly so if we never find out what it was actually FOR.  And even then it's not a massive, soul crushing disappointment.

Love that article desperately trying to read something into Duff's use of L.A.M.F.

Psssst.... Guys.....it means he likes Johnny Thunders.  :hihi:

Emily, did you read my post at all?

Please let me know where exactly did I write the band owes me personally anything?

And as for "just" buying merch, albums and tickets, how do you think all those bands earn money? Does it misteriously fall from the sky? No. It comes from companies and agencies that are investing into those bands (making them basically "brands") as a result of active and devoted fanbase. If there were no for fans, do you think GNR would be as popular as they are today?

So once again, no, they do NOT owe me personally anything but they DO owe it to the thousands of fans to get in front of the computer and spend 45 seconds of their life (it takes only one of the guys to do so), if in fact the reunion is not going to take place, to post a short statement and deny it.

Speaking of, it would be actually entitled and immature to genuinely believe the fanbase does not deserve a clarification and should be kept in the dark for this long. Do note these have been ongoing (and hyped up by media) for more than 4 months now. How longer do you think we should wait? What would be, in your opinion, appropriate time frame for denying the news articles, statements from musicians and people related to the band?

How longer do you think loyal fans should be kept in the dark or simply ignored on the matter? Or maybe, you believe the band should communicate with the fanbase only when there's an album to be sold or a new merchandise shows up in the online store?

For the record, I honestly believe something good is going to happen, possibly including Slash as I personally cannot fathom either one of them would knowingly deceive fans for this long by not denying it.

Don't you almost wish he posted a photo of a cup of coffee or something just to see the "secret meaning" behind it?  :hihi:



/jarmo

They grow an awful lot of coffee in.....Brazil! South American reunion tour starts now!

I love how most people miss that he has a LAMF tattoo on his left wrist that is visible in the picture from holding the bass. As much as I am hopeful for a reunion and believe there have been signs of what is to come... a bass player posting a picture on twitter of himself holding a bass is not what I would call a smoking gun.

But...but..he's holding his bass! And it's in a space! He must be rehersing! And, obvs, the only thing he could be rehersing is GNR STUFF!!!! WOOO HOOO!!!! ;)

Nicely said

Yeah, if it ends up being all for nothing, I think 'massive disappointment' would be a fair take, at least for me.  But so what?  All the wondering, anticipation, and hope are part of the ride and it feels good, it's exciting.  If there's a letdown, such is life, everyone will deal with it in their own way, but nobody's losing any years off their life here. 

I don't see it as a disappointment.  You can't lose what you never had.

I also see this whole thing as a lifeline or sorts, really.  The "looking VERY seriously in regard" to a new album <insert jerking off motion here> isn't exactly panning out after a year and a half.

I see this as an alternative to nothing.  Who objects to an alternative to nothing?

But like you say, if it doesn't happen for whatever reason, what have we lost?  We go back to how things were the past year or so.  Twiddling our thumbs.

If you have time for a semantics debate, disappointment does not necessarily require losing something you have.  I don't have a specific source for this, but I will go out on a limb and say it is a historical fact that many millions (billions?) of human beings have been disappointed just from not getting what they want. 

As for objecting to an alternative to nothing, I don't think that's the issue presented by the OP.  My understanding is that he was directing the thread to all who would not only not object to a reunion (or whatever we're calling it), but want it desperately.  To those, he is advising low expectations to avoid massive disappointment.  That, I disagree with.  Have high expectations; if the worst that happens is disappointment, that's a small price that everyone always gets over eventually.

Honestly, if this somehow doesn't happen after all this, I think my disappointment would be more in how fucking tone deaf you truly have to be to let all this fester and then not deliver.

I'd be bummed there was no reunion, sure.  But I think we'd have to be asking some far harder questions of TB at that point.  And I'm not sure how you could have any confidence in them whatsoever if that's how things played out.

Fortunately, I do not think that's the case.  In fact, I think TB is in for something of an image makeover with the fans if this happens.

Keep in mind, if it doesn't happen, might be because they all couldn't come to terms, which would not necessarily be anyone's fault.  Anyway, doesn't matter, I think it's happening. 

If nothing is  going to happen, the new incarnation of the band with 2 (or 3) new players will be a total fiasco. Axl knows that and if he hasn't stopped the rumors up to now there are obvious reasons. I don't know if we can talk about a full reunion, but knowing Axl, at least we'll see duff mckagan re-joining the band.
Axl won't dissappoint his fans that much...

I don't know how you'd possibly sell it.

Clearly there has been a huge drop off from their prime to all the replacement line-ups.  And I guess he's retained most of however many fans that wound up being over these past 15 years.

But can you even retain all whatever number of people that is, if you pull what looks a pretty serious bait and switch?  Can you really say definitively there won't be people that get fed up and say, you know what...fuck this guy?

Ya I hear you I had tickets in 2002 and 2006 here in San Diego and both shows were cancelled. This is different though. It's too big to fail. Bigger than Axl. Too much money on the line.

 now it says they are out of stock. I can still log into my dashboard account.  I called the credit card people to make sure it was not something on my end.  nope, good to go there.  check my debits, none from gnr or wonderful union so my membership payment never processed yesterday?  and now when I retry it says there is an error 10 code issue to report to customer service.  what a fucking joke...you cant get a reply from anyone there at wonderful union email or phone number.  I m being fucked around by a handful people I like to...

I do think some people on all message boards jumped the gun a little bit, as our friend Goldstein would say (remember the 2001 European tour? hehe)

For now we have a "classic logo" on the main site (which content was removed - a bit strange), crowd shots on the social networks and a teaser with a Live Era (1999) version of Jungle. To me it's a little bit "light" to say there's gonna be a full tour with half the classic line-up.

Axl Rose has now disappeared for 18 months and Slash will be playing a show with his usual band on NYE, I don't see it as big sign of whatever. Now if Slash had cancelled his show on NYE that would be another story. I wonder what he's gonna say to all the people in the room before and after the show who will ask him about Coachella/ the new tour/ the reunion... :)

Anyway, if it does happen it would be nice to see those 3 on the same stage again, I'm just wondering what kind of chemistry we'll see between Axl ("not in this lifetime") and Slash ("feat. Myles Kennedy"). A tour would be cool, if Slash doesn't go back to his usual band afterwards (otherwise GN'R would just be a "side project"?) and if we get at least one or two brand new songs! :)

Next Tuesday will be interesting. If GN'R really headlines Coachella I would be very surprised, but it'd be a nice surprise!

Its still holiday season, maybe you should give it a few days.

Haha, you're right! Of course! :hihi:



/jarmo

Clearly, coming back with 2 new guitar players and going back on tour with a new lineup will only send this thing around in circles again..will only delay the next album..and will take some more getting used to from a fan base already not sure where this thing is headed

The time is right and the time is now for Slash and Duff to rejoin the band and make some magic happen.

like cd2 :hihi:



What trailer? I just saw something like a bootleg. If the rumors was true then this would  be the worst promo-video ever. EVER.




rockers shouldn't be cool or socially accepted, anyway so who the fuck cares :smoking:

 :smoking: :smoking: :smoking:u dig? :smoking: :smoking: :smoking:

This is the bank busting retirement tour and you know what i dont blame them,theyre being offered silly amounts of cash to do so lets all swallow the pride and make more bank (partly) together than they do solo.

I say again i dont blame them i'd do the same,but it wont be 1980's again they're middle aged men (as i am too and ive changed a lot in that time too)

I honestly think Axl would get a long well with a sober Slash.

Like Axl told Duff, They became what they said they never would... Slash had people filling his head full of shit, Axl the same, caused a space/rift that grew further. Time makes u wiser and they see that now.

how long all these guys will stay sober on a reunion tour?

 :confused:

I was thinking that, since Guns N Roses is legally an Axl thing, maybe - if this sort of reunion happens - it could be a temporary event, like a "one year special tour", then move on.

Like axstradamus Maybe I'll Get it right, next time....

It could but why would people care for nuGNR after this? He wont be able to hold the card that he is pissed at ex GNR members and that they left bla bla, it wouldnt make sense.
Im certain this is for good and either they keep going or Axl takes it easy after, semi retired. Obviously this is just an opinion, anything can and will happen!!  :peace:

there are many cards to hold.. it's clear that it's not a simply "pissed at ex members" thing... simply, they had their own parted ways for 20 years, Axl put efforts and heart in his stuff, and I don't think he's the guy who thrashes all of it.. maybe this thing could simply be a way to make peace (and a lot of money, of course), then go on without the rust... I'd be happy, in this case

I know but just wait until the GNR reunion tour kicks off, the excitement will be off the roof, i cant see Axl end it and go back to new members, it would be anti climatic to say the least. Anyway ill enjoy the next couple of years of GNR, cheers!  :peace:

At a minimum, it means that *way* more people will tune into Jimmy Kimmel this week.   :beer:


I envision Coachella being as much of the Appetite / Illusion members as possible.  If / when a tour follows, we might see Frank and Richard onboard.  All complete speculation, but hey, that's what we do around here.  :)