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Title: Opening song for next tour
Post by: GNRMTL on November 29, 2015, 12:38:24 AM
Sympathy for the devil would be legit


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 29, 2015, 12:48:10 AM
the opening from the next cd would be sweet, like how they started the cd tours with cd. who knows if it will be out by then, but it would be rad if the very first song they played the next time they appeared was a new one. heres to hoping the next tour is a cd 2 tour, regardless of the lineup.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: w.david rose on November 29, 2015, 02:35:42 AM
Preety tied up would be a cool song to bring up again and maybe open with...


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Gaymo, the Hobbit on November 29, 2015, 03:51:51 AM
Its so easy


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Tongue-like-a-razor on November 29, 2015, 05:08:29 AM
In case of a reunion, I would like to hear a song that hasn't been played since Duff & Slash were part of the band. Pretty Tied Up or Sympathy would be cool. However, they're probably going to play at venues where the audience is not solely comprised of diehard fans, so WTTJ is a pretty safe bet.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: LIGuns on November 29, 2015, 06:49:51 AM
Always felt Hair of the Dog would be a cool opener...Axl announcing "Give me a little bit of volume on this one" as the band comes onstage....But WTTJ is a classic opener...Although back on the UYI tour I always liked the stories he told before WTTJ..


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: The Wight Gunner on November 29, 2015, 07:00:51 AM
If the reunion happen, the WTTJ has to be the opener, SFTD would in my view be off limits, for all that it represented. 

If the band is in its current status (ie not in any form related to the classic line-up) then Sympathy for the Devil would be really cool, however I'd imagine CD would remain the opener for anticipation value alone, the way the band came on stage in silhouette during the intro part was perfect leading to burst that exposed Axl was a really good fit.
 


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: ITARocker on November 29, 2015, 08:17:49 AM
Should start with paradise city, when he still has breath and voice :hihi:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: GnR-NOW on November 29, 2015, 08:34:18 AM
They should just have slash walk out by himself and start playing SCOM.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 29, 2015, 08:56:04 AM
Chinese Democracy was pretty good

For the next (GN'R)tour... Riad n the Beduins, that would be interesting

For the next (reunion) show/tour... It's so easy


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 29, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
Regardless of lineup, I'd love to see bad obsession.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: deadtotheworld on November 29, 2015, 10:20:55 AM
Right next door to hell


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: raindogs70 on November 29, 2015, 11:54:13 AM
If a reunion - Nightrain, Double Talkin' Jive or You're Crazy


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: axlvai on November 29, 2015, 11:58:46 AM
Its so easy

 : ok:

Plus Scarface Intro...  :drool:

And... "You wanted the best!!!!....."

Holy popo!!



Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: ItsAlright on November 29, 2015, 12:04:10 PM
Patience


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: draguns on November 29, 2015, 12:21:04 PM
I would love to hear "Don't Damn Me" as an opening song.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Gavgnr on November 29, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
The General


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Walapino on November 29, 2015, 01:45:57 PM
One of these three: Perfect Crime, Nightrain or PRetty Tied Up  : ok:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: westcoast_junkie on November 29, 2015, 02:12:40 PM
Agree with everything rj said. If not, Chinese, Easy or Get in the Ring (with some "Guns n' Roses " shouting from the audience ).


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Spirit on November 29, 2015, 02:23:36 PM
the opening from the next cd would be sweet, like how they started the cd tours with cd. who knows if it will be out by then, but it would be rad if the very first song they played the next time they appeared was a new one. heres to hoping the next tour is a cd 2 tour, regardless of the lineup.

But some songs fit better as openers than others. I don't want a new song just for the sake of it, it has to be close to or as fitting as WTTJ.

If CD 2 is an album full of ballads, it won't exactly open a show with a bang no matter how good all the ballads are.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: dmathski on November 29, 2015, 03:07:18 PM
It's so easy  : ok: :peace:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: sky dog on November 29, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
Reckless Life or It's So Easy


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: raindog on November 29, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
It'll be Jungle. We all know it.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: GypsySoul on November 29, 2015, 08:06:06 PM
PC .... and then do the entire December 19, 2009 Tokyo show set list in backwards order.  ;D


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: gcluskey on November 29, 2015, 08:20:32 PM
DONT DAMN ME


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: kaasupoltin on November 30, 2015, 05:42:52 AM
Chinese Democracy works pretty great in my opinion, good buildup before the song really kicks in. It's So Easy is another favourite of mine.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: norway on November 30, 2015, 07:50:48 AM

wttj for me, cd wasn't very good as opener imo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 30, 2015, 09:05:33 AM
Right next door to hell would rock. It's so easy is probably my favorite. It's also the song they start out with when its not CD,wttj like at golden gods


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Bazfreak on November 30, 2015, 09:28:22 AM
Pretty Tied Up all the way!  :beer:

PTU, Jungle,  Easy, Brownstone...would be a kick ass start considering they reunite.

And I would love to hear Axl sing Anastasia...maybe they make an agreement, Slash plays CD stuff and Axl sings Connspirators stuff!  ;D


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: JAEBALL on November 30, 2015, 09:33:04 AM
Well... Axl, Slash and Duff opened most nights on the UYI tour with Nightrain right?

So maybe they should go with that one  :)


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Annie on November 30, 2015, 09:41:04 AM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Boromir on November 30, 2015, 09:59:19 AM
CD
Love the excitment built in intro and of course the pyros along the band's first notes.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: JAEBALL on November 30, 2015, 10:01:01 AM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:

The obsession with "haters" and "trolls" seem to be at an all time high these days.

You realize posts like this one encourages the very posts you don't want to see right?


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: EmilyGNR on November 30, 2015, 10:48:32 AM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:

The obsession with "haters" and "trolls" seem to be at an all time high these days.

You realize posts like this one encourages the very posts you don't want to see right?

I think there would be haters and trolls around regardless of whether they were mentioned or not.

Sort of like the way some "fans" are around  :-*


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Annie on November 30, 2015, 10:49:55 AM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:

The obsession with "haters" and "trolls" seem to be at an all time high these days.

You realize posts like this one encourages the very posts you don't want to see right?
I thought I was being funny. Sorry if I struck a nerve.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: JAEBALL on November 30, 2015, 11:25:25 AM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:

The obsession with "haters" and "trolls" seem to be at an all time high these days.

You realize posts like this one encourages the very posts you don't want to see right?

I think there would be haters and trolls around regardless of whether they were mentioned or not.

Sort of like the way some "fans" are around  :-*

Yeah the evil bunch of "fans" who don't bow down to the all mighty. You're right.. we aren't going anywhere.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: JAEBALL on November 30, 2015, 11:27:53 AM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:

The obsession with "haters" and "trolls" seem to be at an all time high these days.

You realize posts like this one encourages the very posts you don't want to see right?
I thought I was being funny. Sorry if I struck a nerve.  :hihi:

Not at all...  just some friendly advice...

I would think you'd realize by now that only encourages people to post nasty comments.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: EmilyGNR on November 30, 2015, 11:59:11 AM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:

The obsession with "haters" and "trolls" seem to be at an all time high these days.

You realize posts like this one encourages the very posts you don't want to see right?

I think there would be haters and trolls around regardless of whether they were mentioned or not.

Sort of like the way some "fans" are around  :-*

Yeah the evil bunch of "fans" who don't bow down to the all mighty. You're right.. we aren't going anywhere.

Did I group you in there or are you simply selecting alliances? :D


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Annie on November 30, 2015, 12:02:23 PM
Thunder buddies. Except change the lyrics around to fuck the haters or internet trolls. :beer: :hihi:

The obsession with "haters" and "trolls" seem to be at an all time high these days.

You realize posts like this one encourages the very posts you don't want to see right?
I thought I was being funny. Sorry if I struck a nerve.  :hihi:

Not at all...  just some friendly advice...

I would think you'd realize by now that only encourages people to post nasty comments.
That's unfortunate. Being a smartass is just part of my personality. that's why I love TED so much.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 12:16:25 PM
I see some comments about opening songs that have been used on past tours.
Which is interesting considering all those people who comment on the setlists.  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: WAR41 on November 30, 2015, 12:22:00 PM
I see some comments about opening songs that have been used on past tours.
Which is interesting considering all those people who comment on the setlists.  :hihi:




/jarmo


Did you do an analysis of those who complained about the set list and those who didn't? 


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 12:38:38 PM
No I didn't.

All I know is that some were saying the setlists were too similar and now when there's a discussion about the first song of a hypothetical show, many request songs that have already been used to start shows.

Shows you that the setlist complaining is a bit misdirected.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: kaasupoltin on December 01, 2015, 01:45:29 AM
No I didn't.

All I know is that some were saying the setlists were too similar and now when there's a discussion about the first song of a hypothetical show, many request songs that have already been used to start shows.

Shows you that the setlist complaining is a bit misdirected.



/jarmo


I get your point. But it's just about the opening song, a tiny part of a setlist. And of course, it would be cool to see the first song change from this to that during a tour, but at least I thought this thread is in the form of "if you'd have to choose one".


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: TheBaconman on December 01, 2015, 02:32:39 AM
No I didn't.

All I know is that some were saying the setlists were too similar and now when there's a discussion about the first song of a hypothetical show, many request songs that have already been used to start shows.

Shows you that the setlist complaining is a bit misdirected.



/jarmo


Betting odds would think

The starting song will be one of the few mentioned   

If I was to bet....

The first song under the new old gnr  would be

WTTJ


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: raindog on December 01, 2015, 02:43:45 AM
No I didn't.

All I know is that some were saying the setlists were too similar and now when there's a discussion about the first song of a hypothetical show, many request songs that have already been used to start shows.

Shows you that the setlist complaining is a bit misdirected.



/jarmo


Pffffffffffffffft.

Misdirected huh? Yeah, anyone want to make a pie chart of the percentage of shows since 2000 that started with Jungle or Chi Dem? We'll save that little tiny almost near non-existent slice marked 'others' for you bud.

Not complaining, honestly, Jungle opens most shows because it should open most shows. It's a must-play, greatest hit that people will be majorly disappointed if they buy a GNR ticket and don't hear and the opening slot is where it damn frickin jolly well arseing belongs. But "oh, they changed it up a handful of times before they immediately switched it back over the course of 14 years" is proof repetitive setlist complaints are invalid.  :-\ ummm...


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Nytunz on December 01, 2015, 04:40:20 AM
I think WTTJ is a opening song that both diehard fans and "normal" rock/metal fans never get tiered off. It has a lot of energy. i thought Chinese as an opener was very cool. There are a couple of songs i could see as openers.. It so easy (like back in the days). You could be mine..  :drool: ...., reckless life...

I think the intros they have used since 2001 is great.. sets the mood! But it would also be great to just start the show with the drumsintro from you could be mine... :beer:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2015, 07:14:45 AM
I get your point. But it's just about the opening song, a tiny part of a setlist. And of course, it would be cool to see the first song change from this to that during a tour, but at least I thought this thread is in the form of "if you'd have to choose one".

I get it. But I also know that if fans voted for a setlist, it wouldn't be all that different to any thing the band has played.... It's just certain people who think that... :)




Misdirected huh? Yeah, anyone want to make a pie chart of the percentage of shows since 2000 that started with Jungle or Chi Dem? We'll save that little tiny almost near non-existent slice marked 'others' for you bud.

Stop whining already. Lighten up! Jeez. All year long Festivus with this one.

I pointed out that your kind of people who like to post their honest opinion on things they don't like about GN'R have spent quite some time posting these opinions about the setlists over the years when the band was out there touring (which also was commented on by these kinds of people). Now when there's a choice to post a preferred opening song, many choices are the logical ones that have already been used at some point.

Those are facts.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: raindog on December 01, 2015, 09:05:48 AM
I don't think you understand what whining is.

Typically a post that ends with 'I'm not complaining' and expounds the opinion that the songs most often used as openers do indeed belong at that spot in the set would be considered supportive. But of course, you excised that rather pertinent portion of my post from your quotation because it didn't suit your purpose.

'your kind of people'. Jesus, it's like some sort of low-level rock n' roll version of racial profiling.  :rofl:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2015, 09:16:41 AM
No, I don't understand what whining is, what humor is and I also apparently look like a person with a handicap.
Anything else? :)


Just observing what I see.
Look at your post history. The first posts you made, I assumed you were only here to stir shit up. That opinion hasn't changed in the few days you've been here.

So, prove me wrong.  : ok:




/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: raindog on December 01, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
No, I don't understand what whining is, what humor is and I also apparently look like a person with a handicap.
Anything else? :)


Dude, the fuck?


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
If you read some posts from the last few days, you'd know what it meant. :)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: raindog on December 01, 2015, 09:41:50 AM
If you read some posts from the last few days, you'd know what it meant. :)



/jarmo

So it's cool to just quote me and add in some abhorrent shit some other guy said as if I said it?

Mmkay.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2015, 09:45:46 AM
Sorry!
Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

Just saw another faceless poster make claims about what I understand or don't.
Maybe it's because English is my third language. It's not easy understanding all these native speakers!
I'll try practice my English more.  : ok:




/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Spirit on December 01, 2015, 09:53:57 AM

I get it. But I also know that if fans voted for a setlist, it wouldn't be all that different to any thing the band has played.... It's just certain people who think that... :)



I think it's safe to say that if such a vote were arranged, the setlist will be as you say ? not much different from what they've been playing in the recent years.

There's no question they are playing the most popular songs, but that doesn't mean the less popular songs are better left completely out. To us they're still really good songs.

I can see both sides of the argument. On one side Axl & co wants to play the very best and most popular songs at every concert, which of course leads to a "standard setlist". On the other side, for people attending multiple concerts in a tour or attending every time GNR stops by in their town, while still very cool just to see a GNR concert no matter what the setlist is, the experience might have been even better if the set was completely different.



Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2015, 09:56:28 AM
Yeah, I'd say if you go to a regular show and look around, a majority of that crowd would be happy if Greatest Hits was played and then a few others....

This is true for any band!
It's even more true of it's a festival show.



/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: Spirit on December 01, 2015, 10:02:10 AM
Yeah, I'd say if you go to a regular show and look around, a majority of that crowd would be happy if Greatest Hits was played and then a few others....

This is true for any band!
It's even more true of it's a festival show.



/jarmo



I'm not arguing the setlist they are playing is probably the most popular one among the masses.

But I think it is reasonable to think that a good portion of the crowd will be familiar with all the Illusions songs for instance. I don't think the crowd would've died down if they played Coma, Perfect Crime, Bad Obsession and Dead Horse.

But this is just an argument among the die-hards... The casual fan would be 100% satisfied with only the greatest hits, as you said.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: jarmo on December 01, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
Yeah.

That's why I think Chinese Democracy was a logical opening song on the last tour. The excitement level goes up when the show starts. Then once that excitement goes down a bit, we got a hit song and the excitement goes up again. It's like a boxer hitting two punches on the opponent!  ;)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 01, 2015, 10:10:19 AM

Preety tied up would be a cool song to bring up again and maybe open with...


Given the last verse, seems an obvious pick for this situation, I would think.


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: sky dog on December 01, 2015, 10:12:31 AM
wouldn't Reckless Life be neat though? Have Slash walk out and say "suck our Guns N Fuckin Roses"....I don't know, maybe it is just me.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Opening song for next tour
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 01, 2015, 10:29:21 AM

I get it. But I also know that if fans voted for a setlist, it wouldn't be all that different to any thing the band has played.... It's just certain people who think that... :)


I think it's safe to say that if such a vote were arranged, the setlist will be as you say ? not much different from what they've been playing in the recent years.


That can be a double edged sword though.

Pearl Jam did this for years for a fan club show they did in Seattle each year.  And the fans picked the songs.  Forget 'Jeremy' or 'Animal'.  It was mostly deep cuts and b-sides.

Funny thing about that though.  Some of the versions from those concerts are pretty spotty, because they never play that stuff, and won't be doing so again either.