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Did DJ acknowledge stepping out of GNR because of Slash's return?

I know this can be taken different ways....but that wink to me is an agreement to the post.
I am referring to the second comment from Dan Lawley that DJ responded too.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/29xhk5i.jpg)

Taken from DJ's facebook, where he has been doing a lot of responding to people's comments.

I don't think that is the reason DJ resigned, he made a clear choice to go with SixxAM over GNR.

Not surprised he is trying to spin that in his favor though, he also made some remarks in 2012 concerning the RRHOF. ::)

He is very good at PR.

I think he saw the writing on the wall...that a reunion was coming, or at least was more likely than any DJ-inspired GnR songs.

No, DJ likes to take things and put his own personal spin on it to promote himself. This has already been discussed in the N6 thread.

Yes, your opinion of it was discussed in the other thread.  I still don't agree with it.

And that's fine. DJ is a very manipulative and narcissistic person. He has you fooled so score for him.

So I was right.  ;D

Honestly I don't know how old you are or how long you have been a fan, but I don't see a great deal you have "been right" about at all.  :no:

In that he has you fooled as well. On that point I can agree. +2 for Team DJ

If you say Gullible slowly it sounds like oranges  :hihi:

There's a slight difference, I say he was sacked because a reunion was coming. It seems dj is saying he ''stepped down'' so there could be a reunion. In the eyes of the public that will probably be the official version. But its basically the same thing.

Threatened much?  :hihi: Jealousy doesn't suit you Emily.  :-*

Neither version is true.   DJ left to be in Sixx Am full time.  N6 wants world domination. So they glom onto anything GNR related in their ruthless pursuit to achieve this goal. Just my .02

These both seem correct to me.

And understandable.

I think this the wheels going in motion for a reunion may have going on for quite a while. Possible he knew

Wrong.  DJ is just using this for attention.  And it seems to be working. 

He might of resigned over a decision for the album. Maybe he wasn't getting better the spot light he probably thought he was going to get.

Haha! Sure I'm "threatened" Keep projecting   :hihi:

You are right    He is a salesman of his brand......   Crap

Yes. And the way things are going it wouldn't surprise me if this ended up as one of that awful alternative nation stories.   They seem to use comments made on forums as legitimate news sources. 

The head of AEG said Axl was talking about a 'reunion' at the last Vegas residency. That and all the Chinese whispers that went on after that run & the return of duff (the chapter about reconnecting with Axl in his new book anyone??). Bumblefoot's said in interviews he CAN'T say more but GN'R will be fine & his releases are all a plan for his future.

It's on. Just hope the announcement is soon... Very soon. 😀

But DJ had co-existed in both Guns and Sixx:AM for a long time without having to pick between the two.  But then (wait for it)...something changed.  IMO, that something was DJ learning (maybe he didn't have actual knowledge but a good hunch) that a reunion was in the works or that Axl wasn't going to be using any current lineup material in the next album.  Also, your claim about DJ and Nikki is just your opinion, right?  Some people get crucified here for posting opinion as fact...

This is my take on it as well.

One can argue that he left because Sixx AM would be full on touring next year. But still, since GNR don't have any concrete plans ? at least known to any of the band members at the time Dj left ? it would be strange for Dj to just leave GNR, just assuming that the touring schedules would collide.

It is my opinion. But I really think DJ is just putting a spin on this to promote himself. And he has all of you guys believing him. Damn he is good at PR. It is my hunch that he saw yet another opportunity for attention to put out that tweet.

I think we can all agree that Dj is very fond of putting his name out there. Wouldn't Dj's opportunities to promote himself be ten times bigger if he had just stayed in GNR? I don't see the logic here...

Correct.  The only reason I know his name exists is because he was in Guns.  Had no clue who he was before. 

he wrote this  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg2knMSq9sQ)song and been in the LA-scene b4 gnr.

DJ isn't fit to lick Axl's or Tommy's or Izzy's or any of the classic lineup's ..... :-*

DJ is where he needs to be. Simple as that.

Which is why he continues to capitalize on the GNR brand at any given opportunity.  And I find it very annoying that he is slyly putting it out there that he made some sort of noble sacrifice to pave the way for a reunion.

But the point is that Dj would gain most publicity in the long run if he had stayed in GNR. For a guy supposedly such a PR genius, it seems like a really bad move of him to just leave GNR. Sure, there's news headlines during his announcement and some opportunities to get in the spotlight in the aftermath... But fast forward one year, there's no real opportunities for Dj to associate himself with GNR in the press ? he's now in Sixx AM, a lesser band than GNR.

At the SIXX Am concert I attended in Chicago N6 says he wants world domination. I sincerely doubt that will happen. So you are 100 percent correct, which is why DJ continues to milk any opportunity to mention GNR. I liked a few Sixx Am songs like STARS but they are nowhere near the same league as any GNR song. And I just feel compelled to post about this so alternative nation doesn't pick this up as their next "story" like they are doing with Scott Weiland.

So, you don't think it's strange of Dj to leave GNR in order to be in Sixx AM full time? Why wouldn't he at least try to juggle both bands.. As far as I can see, he left GNR before he even knew if there would be scheduling conflicts in the future.

Personally, I have a feeling that Dj leaving wasn't 100% his own decision, but out of courtesy they let him write the letter he did.

Yes, I still believe that he was heavily influenced by N6 and I still believe his letter was a calculated PR stunt. Just like his newest noble sacrifice spin.

Right, and I knew none of that before he joined Guns.  I would suspect that many other people didn't either.

Ha! Ashba made a "noble sacrifice" and Scott Weiland is the next Nostradamus.  :hihi:

Amazing what you learn about on the internet :D

He has done what?

Read between the lines baby. :hihi:

tsk tsk, reunion-psychosis :P i tell ya, u all gone mad!

Not in this case.! :rant:

I seriously doubt he is trying to feed off of any GNR hype or whatever.  I think you are giving to much credit to the GNR name as it stands now.

Nope. The reunion hype took on a life of its own and he wanted his small share. Just my .02

He doesn't gain anything from it though.  Please tell me what you think he gains from it.  I'm really curious.  As it is he stands to gain nothing from GNR and it's my opinion that he never gained anything from being in GNR.

I thought I was na?ve. Any publicity is good publicity. He and N6 think that Sixx AM is going to be as big as Motley Crue and GNR. I think the stuff is Ok. Kinda mediocre actually after I listened to it a few months after the initial concert back in April of this year. Just getting their names out there.

He definitely gained. 

I, like a lot of people I bet, never even heard of the dude before he joined up.  Same with half of the new guys.

You guys know he was already associated with Motley Crue, a band that was just about as big as GNR.  He already had his name out there.

Are you comparing co-writing songs for Motley with standing in the spotlight, playing the SCOM intro as the headliner of Rock in Rio?

I think we all know of Dj's past achievements. However impressive they may have been, none of them gained him as much attention as being in GNR.

Yes and since he and N6 think SIXX AM will be as big as Motley Crue they grabbed onto the reunion speculations to get free publicity for themselves. The music business is ruthless.

That is very true.

Sure, his name was out there. But especially outside the USA, being in GN'R has defnitely helped.
Also, Motley Crue might be as big as GN'R in certain markets, but not on the worldwide stage. GN'R headlines festivals, a farewell touring Motley Crue doesn't.




/jarmo

Honestly, I can not see another band that was so successful as Guns N' Roses in the last 30 years, maybe Oasis ? Yes maybe.

I live in Brazil and I can say that Motley Crue is not as well known as the Guns .

Guns has not lost its importance in the rock , but its relevance is not the same .

I do not see a guilty by the end of the band , everyone has their version of the facts, if they were mature enough to handle the pressure of being the biggest rock band at the time , probably today would be together

I think that DJ joined GnR with the intention of it being his main gig, which may or may not have been required by Axl or management or whomever.  But we have to remember that was before all this Motley Crue retirement stuff.  I think that in the last couple of years N6 has decided to really focus on Sixx AM and made DJ pick.  He did and that's that.  Just how it seems to me like it could have played out.

And I'm one of those that had never heard of him before.  I had seen him in a video but didn't know his name or anything.  So I'm in the camp that GnR helped him a lot more than he helped it.

You hit the nail right on the head.
These were N6 exact words at the SIXX AM show at the VIc Theater in April 2015.
 I was going to retire. but thanks to you guys, the fans, fuck that shit. We're going for WORLD DOMINATION.

Well there is a big difference between playing small gigs for diehards and world domination.
I thought Amazing Grace was going to be the next Les Miz. I was wrong . It closed in October on Broadway.
Les Miz just celebrated its 30th anniversary.

Motley has had tremendous success, but I would never say they made it to the level of a Guns N Roses, Metallica,or a band like Van Halen.  They are a band I like but they are known just as much for their theatrics and off stage antics as their music.  Very successful band but they never had records that took the world by storm like those other bands I mentioned .

U2

Huh.  Must have been just me then!  I knew who he was and who he was associated with and I'm not that big of a Crue fan. 

I'm still not sure what he got out of it.  Yes he was another guitarist for GNR but how does that benefit him exactly?  There is a stigma with that now.  It didn't help his career in Sixx AM in anyway that I can see. 

And as far as Sixx and Ashba latching onto reunion rumors, I just don't see it.  They talked about it and Ashba made a little comment on Fakebook?  Now if they were talking about trying to open for the reunion then yes I see where you could say they are attaching themselves to the hype.  Otherwise they are just conversing is the way I see it. 

I was still interested in what him and Axl could bring to the table.

Bon Jovi, U2, Metallica and Iron Maiden. All surpassed GNR in popularity, brand name value, ticket and album sales.

Commercially speaking, an obvious yes for Metallica and U2.  The argument can be made for Bon Jovi but a definite no for Iron Maiden.  Maiden is a niche band, never had the crossover appeal of the other bands and never even had a number 1 record here in the States.

I agree with this synopsis, also worth remembering that N6 has never been supportive nor positive about Axl, or GNR for that matter.

Jealousy maybe  :hihi:

Red Hot Chilli Peppers probably are/ have been bigger as well. 

You don't think more people checked out his other stuff because he was in GN'R?
Meaning his band and clothing line.

Same goes for almost anybody who joined the band.




/jarmo

That was true for me. I was a huge fan at one time before he showed his true colors. I bought some of his clothes for myself and some friends. Even dressed up a TED bear in some Ashba swag that was a gift for a friend. I still think he is a good designer and guitar player. Just not someone with a lot of integrity when it comes to friendship. And he is a master at PR. But I have never liked N6 or Motley Crue. Only went to see SIXX Am because I really liked Dj's work in GNR.

did not mean big in record sales or shows, I mean a world cultural impact band , a real rock band with attitude , the other mentioned bands were higher for the Guns N 'Roses did not continue his legacy. Nirvana ruled the world in 1993 and 1994 because it no longer existed Guns . Nirvana became more famous after the death of Cobain, I do not dispute musical tastes , but Nirvana has only nervermind as classic album . U2 released good records , only a few good records , the last relevant album Rock was AFD .

well, guitarist in GNR, even these days, great gig, great pay, travelling around the world, playing big crowds and festivals,
giving you notoriety and publicity, sounds like a perfect job to me.

when someone quits the band, he has the right to use it for his publicity, he was part of it, I have no problem with that.
it's like writing on your C.V where you worked. it's part of your pedigree for life, and that's ok.

DJ & Ron have their own brands, very different ways to run it, but same generation, so that's interesting...I thought one
will quit GNR, and the other will stay and produce the LP with Axl. of course I wanted DJ out because I think Ron is
more talented, better guitarist and better songwriter. and probably as good as DJ as producing.

I don't have a problem with people having something on their resume. I do have a problem with people   putting their own spin on a situation  that could be potentially be put out as truth by that horrible clickbait site alternativenation. They seem to get some of their" breaking news" from GNR forums.

Until that great gig cuts into what really makes you happy and prevents you from seeking true fulfillment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Final_Frontier_World_Tour
^^

To a lot of people DJ, being a LA-themed performer, actually helped gnr's publicity and presentation.

I think, being in GUNS, you have enough free time to do whatever you want, at least in studio. touring, can be a problem.

Richard, and to some extent Dizzy, has managed this for years.
Tommy's done the same in the past, had scheduling conflicts last year though.

Two guitar players obviously thought the two couldn't be combined and chose to focus on their solo career and other bands.




/jarmo

yeah, I'm not sure I buy this official reason

Or, two guitar players (and a bassist) became aware that the band's plans changed and were now focused on a reunion that would not include them.  That's possible too, right?

Well Bumblefoot has been saying all kinds of things for years. So...
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/bumblefoot-if-i-have-to-choose-between-guns-n-roses-and-the-rest-of-my-life-im-out/




/jarmo

Rumors of a possible meeting have never been so strong as now.

Something 's happening

Yeah. People jump to conclusions and assume.
Slash's tour is over. He has free time.

It's easy to come to the conclusion that he's gonna use that free time for a secret meeting.




/jarmo

Sure, overlook the obvious, glaring fact that they both quit to focus on other projects  ::)

Ok, and you overlook the obvious, glaring fact that for the past several years they were all able to work on both.  : ok:

But it wasn't the main focus....

If you're doing both, then one will always be the priority. That was GN'R. If GN'R booked a tour, they'd have to cancel their other plans.
Now, with the shift of focus, they don't.



/jarmo

Right, which means their entire lives were centered around not only what GNR did, but the anticipation of what GNR might be doing in the future.  They knew they could never plan anything long-term (career, family, etc) because it would feasibly be interrupted by GNR plans.  Their entire lives were shackled to GNR, and it wore them down.

Yeah.

So they were doing both, but they couldn't focus on their solo stuff.
It's different to be able to only focus on the solo stuff and not have to worry about GN'R.



/jarmo

this new machine nickel Hunting with only Axl , Duff and Slash , it would be a sign between the lines ?

Its so fucking estranged, so confuse !!!!!

I'm guessing here, but I think you're trying to say that the new slot machine with Axl, Duff and Slash featured in it, is a sign.



/jarmo