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Title: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: DeN on November 13, 2015, 09:21:35 AM Rumors are flying about a comeback for the classic 'Appetite' lineup, but can they be believed? Rumors of a Guns N' Roses reunion have been swirling for months, but things went semi-nuclear earlier this week when an article on Dish Nation flatly said it was happening and Brandi Glanville, a friend of Duff McKagan's wife, blurted out "Guns N' Roses is coming back, motherfuckers!" in a video interview. Tweets from the official Guns N' Roses account fueled speculation: "Surely they'll read between the lines," "If only they could read lips ...," "Of course today everyone is a jouranlist [sic]" and "What ever happened to no news is good news?" http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/5-reasons-guns-n-roses-will-reunite-and-5-reasons-they-wont-20151113 Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 13, 2015, 09:44:11 AM Quote 2. New Guns N' Roses had toured itself into oblivion. When Guns N' Roses went out in 2002 and 2006, they packed arenas all over America, but eventually they were reduced to a theater and club act. You simply can't do the same show over and over and expect people to keep seeing it. Their last shows were part of a Las Vegas residency, and even that was starting to grow stale. The only logical move at that point is a reunion. Points made by several of us here. Now, unless this writer is "in on it" with the rest of we whiny dissidents and entitled malcontents to conspire to "give Axl bad press", perhaps its might be time to concede this is more than just we ungrateful fake fans "spewing our negative bullshit". Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: sky dog on November 13, 2015, 10:03:23 AM He probably posts here..... :-*
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 13, 2015, 10:06:20 AM He probably posts here..... :-* The bastard! Well, he saw how some of we sleeper agent haters talk, and he must have thought it was OK. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 13, 2015, 10:51:11 AM You guys are funny.
They forgot the 2011 arena tour, the 2012 club tour weeks after the arena tour.... Nobody wants to see the show so you book another tour in the same cities weeks after the other tour ended. Yeah. They were offered to headline big festivals (2013 & 2014) and decided to add some shows around those. But then again, when have logic and facts stopped you... I'll save you the facts about how several other bands seem to tour less in the USA these days. It'll be ignored anyway since "only GN'R" isn't' selling out every show. /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Wooody on November 13, 2015, 11:03:57 AM You guys are funny. They forgot the 2011 arena tour, the 2012 club tour weeks after the arena tour.... Nobody wants to see the show so you book another tour in the same cities weeks after the other tour ended. Yeah. They were offered to headline big festivals (2013 & 2014) and decided to add some shows around those. But then again, when have logic and facts stopped you... I'll save you the facts about how several other bands seem to tour less in the USA these days. It'll be ignored anyway since "only GN'R" isn't' selling out every show. /jarmo I think its safe to say they were very successful, I think I even saw in one particular year, an article about how they where the years best selling act. Not so long ago.. However I agree that as a fan, we don't want to see them become just a live act?. from 2000 up to 2008 I used to have a collection of bootlegs, some as flac?. but after a while it got ridiculous so I stopped. :hihi: Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 13, 2015, 11:11:36 AM I can see why it's easy to come to that conclusion. You just Google the tour dates and see that some were in smaller venues. Then you just jump to conclusions.
Nobody remembers that in 1993, GN'R were playing arenas in secondary markets in the USA while headlining stadiums in places like South America and Europe.... ;) /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: EmilyGNR on November 13, 2015, 12:12:49 PM He probably posts here..... :-* It wouldn't honestly surprise me if some of the more vocal and opinionated posts on forums were being used by some of the many new sites writing articles about Reunion. A vicious circle, them reporting on what is said on forums and forums reposting their articles- Rinse and repeat :rofl: Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Lucky on November 13, 2015, 02:24:42 PM There's only 1 important reason why I think they wont reunite...
its Axl's repeatedly saying they wont. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGGZUrNyUE I believe Axl has character. And will stay behind 20 years of statements saying Reunion wont happen ever. In case he changes his mind... I'll loose some respect for him. (if it happens, u can stop considering me a fan of the person. just music then) Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Annie on November 13, 2015, 02:32:28 PM He probably posts here..... :-* It wouldn't honestly surprise me if some of the more vocal and opinionated posts on forums were being used by some of the many new sites writing articles about Reunion. A vicious circle, them reporting on what is said on forums and forums reposting their articles- Rinse and repeat :rofl: Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 13, 2015, 02:39:58 PM If all these sites are supposedly getting all their writing ideas from posts on fan forums, where are the articles asking where the fuck the "already done" album is?
No shortage of that sort of talk. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Bridge on November 13, 2015, 02:45:49 PM Quote Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right. This is exactly what I've said all along. The entire world has been erupting with overly optimistic furor over one quote that was never on the level to begin with. Quote 2. There's not a single credible report out there. Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans. And again. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: dmathski on November 13, 2015, 02:58:01 PM There's only 1 important reason why I think they wont reunite... its Axl's repeatedly saying they wont. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGGZUrNyUE I believe Axl has character. And will stay behind 20 years of statements saying Reunion wont happen ever. In case he changes his mind... I'll loose some respect for him. (if it happens, u can stop considering me a fan of the person. just music then) Wow people change their minds all the time. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Ginger King on November 13, 2015, 02:58:40 PM There's only 1 important reason why I think they wont reunite... its Axl's repeatedly saying they wont. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGGZUrNyUE I believe Axl has character. And will stay behind 20 years of statements saying Reunion wont happen ever. In case he changes his mind... I'll loose some respect for him. (if it happens, u can stop considering me a fan of the person. just music then) Did you lose respect for Axl when he made nice with Izzy and Duff? He said some pretty harsh stuff about those two as well, yet then went on stage with them years later. All these past quotes from Axl are meaningless now. Things change. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: JAEBALL on November 13, 2015, 03:06:00 PM There's only 1 important reason why I think they wont reunite... its Axl's repeatedly saying they wont. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGGZUrNyUE I believe Axl has character. And will stay behind 20 years of statements saying Reunion wont happen ever. In case he changes his mind... I'll loose some respect for him. (if it happens, u can stop considering me a fan of the person. just music then) Did you lose respect for Axl when he made nice with Izzy and Duff? He said some pretty harsh stuff about those two as well, yet then went on stage with them years later. All these past quotes from Axl are meaningless now. Things change. Yup. Harsh is putting it lightly, he had it in for those two almost the same. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Bridge on November 13, 2015, 03:07:58 PM All these past quotes from Axl are meaningless now. Things change. Here we go again with "things change". :hihi: You guys can't keep this quote off your lips can you? "All past quotes from Axl are meaningless." I wonder what Axl would say about that? :P Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 13, 2015, 03:26:58 PM Damn so inaccurate. They are not a club act, the venues they play in are pretty big on average. Also anything they said about Axl doing think for money or using that as a reunion isn't valid.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Ginger King on November 13, 2015, 03:32:53 PM All these past quotes from Axl are meaningless now. Things change. Here we go again with "things change". :hihi: You guys can't keep this quote off your lips can you? "All past quotes from Axl are meaningless." I wonder what Axl would say about that? :P woah, woah...I said "all these past quotes from Axl are meaningless." Much different than every thing he's ever said is meaningless. The "these" refers to past negative comments about reunions or former members. He's made amends with others...why is this any different? Have you ever been mad at someone, and then, some time later (years, maybe decades) you're not mad at them anymore? Same concept, really. Yeah, I can't let go of "things change." It's right up there with hiatus. :hihi: Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 13, 2015, 03:40:16 PM Damn so inaccurate. They are not a club act, the venues they play in are pretty big on average. Also anything they said about Axl doing think for money or using that as a reunion isn't valid. Not lately, not domestically. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 13, 2015, 04:11:49 PM Just because you keep repeating the same shit ad nauseam doesn't make it true....
/jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 13, 2015, 04:15:14 PM Damn so inaccurate. They are not a club act, the venues they play in are pretty big on average. Also anything they said about Axl doing think for money or using that as a reunion isn't valid. Not lately, not domestically. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 13, 2015, 04:17:42 PM They looked at the tour dates and jumped to a conclusion, just like our friend over there in the corner who ignores my posts because he loves discussions when he can always be right. :D
/jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 13, 2015, 04:19:10 PM Well I mean, obviously. But I wouldnt call the hard rock shoes "clubs" rock on the range was in a huge stadium, most the South America shows were pretty big, they played rock in rio in 2011, I'm not too sure what he was talking about. He's referring to the size of the venues for the last 2 Las Vegas residencies in 2012 and 2014. Its the most substantive touring they've done, stateside. And they sure ain't arenas. Rock On The Range was not only a one off, but a festival. Tough for one act to really claim that was all them. Like a movie with 2 or 3 A-list stars, who can really say they were the one that moved the tickets? Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 13, 2015, 04:19:26 PM They looked at the tour dates and jumped to a conclusion, just like our friend over there in the corner who ignores my posts because he loves discussions when he can always be right. :D I wasn't ignoring, just didn't know if it was towards me ;)/jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Lucky on November 13, 2015, 04:43:49 PM There's only 1 important reason why I think they wont reunite... its Axl's repeatedly saying they wont. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGGZUrNyUE I believe Axl has character. And will stay behind 20 years of statements saying Reunion wont happen ever. In case he changes his mind... I'll loose some respect for him. (if it happens, u can stop considering me a fan of the person. just music then) Did you lose respect for Axl when he made nice with Izzy and Duff? He said some pretty harsh stuff about those two as well, yet then went on stage with them years later. All these past quotes from Axl are meaningless now. Things change. stuff about Duff and Izzy were always in the lines of good taste, if there ever were any bad words. unlike this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf8FqSsQP28 or the 01 expulsion from HOB Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 13, 2015, 05:05:36 PM I wasn't ignoring, just didn't know if it was towards me ;) Nah, not you. That guy, who last time he tried to argue this same point, was told by the band's management that he's in fact wrong. Something he likes to act never happened and can't stand when I bring it up! :hihi: GN'R gets offered to headline (notice the word headline) US festivals and asked to do multiple residencies, then add some dates around those. This is some kind of evidence that there's less demand for GN'R. Festivals pick headliners based on who they think will bring people. I don't think this little nugget of info will be presented by these experts though.... /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 13, 2015, 05:27:53 PM stuff about Duff and Izzy were always in the lines of good taste, if there ever were any bad words. Yeah, different level of anger. No doubt. He did those speeches at RIRIII, but it was more of a catch all about how the universe was against him. He didn't single out Duff and Izzy like he did Slash, later on. Would be cool if things really did thaw. Who the hell stays this mad for 20 years without a dead body or a jail term? Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: HBK on November 27, 2015, 05:42:00 PM Conclusion:
It ain't happening. No matter how much we all want to see this show, it simply isn't going to happen. Axl is Axl, and he doesn't care about our happiness. There will probably be another 10,000 articles about this over the next few months, but it doesn't matter. It isn't happening. Then again ? Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/5-reasons-guns-n-roses-will-reunite-and-5-reasons-they-wont-20151113#ixzz3sjbP8yfd Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook Only Promotion For RS MAGAZINE :rofl: :hihi: Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Princess Leia on November 28, 2015, 03:30:19 AM Quote Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right. This is exactly what I've said all along. The entire world has been erupting with overly optimistic furor over one quote that was never on the level to begin with. Quote 2. There's not a single credible report out there. Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans. And again. The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. I know what Vicky Hamilton said. But she hasn?t been their manager in 30 years. And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 28, 2015, 05:31:15 AM Quote Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right. This is exactly what I've said all along. The entire world has been erupting with overly optimistic furor over one quote that was never on the level to begin with. Quote 2. There's not a single credible report out there. Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans. And again. The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. I know what Vicky Hamilton said. But she hasn?t been their manager in 30 years. And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. even if its a no go, why stop all the buzz? the band is getting a lot of attention. if axl and slash are cool again, maybe slash doesnt mind helping his buddy out by doing... well, nothing. its a decent enough approach. do or say nothing and get a free build up of buzz. i heard the rumors are even helping afd sales. if thats true, then everyone wins by keeping quiet. i dont agree that it wont go away though. this level of buzz can only last for so long without another shock being put into it at some point to move it up to the next octave. things this intense dont just stay the same on their own. the energy either has to move up or down at some point. there is no such thing as perpetual motion in terms of things like these. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 28, 2015, 06:12:56 AM Well I mean, obviously. But I wouldnt call the hard rock shoes "clubs" rock on the range was in a huge stadium, most the South America shows were pretty big, they played rock in rio in 2011, I'm not too sure what he was talking about. He's referring to the size of the venues for the last 2 Las Vegas residencies in 2012 and 2014. Its the most substantive touring they've done, stateside. And they sure ain't arenas. Rock On The Range was not only a one off, but a festival. Tough for one act to really claim that was all them. Like a movie with 2 or 3 A-list stars, who can really say they were the one that moved the tickets? is it really that fun to keep the same fights going over the same two or three topics for however many years now? theyve been debated to death already. as for all this "we" stuff, sure, others may engage in the debates and side with you from time to time, but youre almost always at the center of it. arent you on a whole different level? maybe you just love to debate. i really dont know. but something tells me you badly want a fight with axl and or tb, and you want to win. thats what i took from your exchange with fernando. when you "won", your "fans" saw it as a major victory. wasnt that how you put it? except in some wwf lingo or something? anyway, i hope everyone enjoyed their thanksgiving, and im thankful for my dysfunctional family here at htgth. while we may not always see eye to eye, we sure do spend a lot of time talking to eachother. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Princess Leia on November 28, 2015, 09:31:47 AM Quote Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right. This is exactly what I've said all along. The entire world has been erupting with overly optimistic furor over one quote that was never on the level to begin with. Quote 2. There's not a single credible report out there. Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans. And again. The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. I know what Vicky Hamilton said. But she hasn?t been their manager in 30 years. And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. even if its a no go, why stop all the buzz? the band is getting a lot of attention. if axl and slash are cool again, maybe slash doesnt mind helping his buddy out by doing... well, nothing. its a decent enough approach. do or say nothing and get a free build up of buzz. i heard the rumors are even helping afd sales. if thats true, then everyone wins by keeping quiet. i dont agree that it wont go away though. this level of buzz can only last for so long without another shock being put into it at some point to move it up to the next octave. things this intense dont just stay the same on their own. the energy either has to move up or down at some point. there is no such thing as perpetual motion in terms of things like these. Create buzz based on a lie it could back fire for all of them. And it is unfair for the fans who at this moment have great expectation about a reunion. Do you really think that Slash, Duff, and Izzy are gonna sell more of their own albums because of this rumor? And I?m not so sure there will be millions of people out there rushing to buy an eventual CD II only because there is a media madness about reunion and more AFD sales Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 28, 2015, 01:48:33 PM I think right now most of the rumors are "will they/won't they".
It's still pretty "harmless" in a way compared to say rumors about actual tour dates (dates/places). /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Bridge on November 28, 2015, 04:28:33 PM The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. That's exactly it though. The rumors won't go away no matter what. Axl and Slash could publicly swear on both their deceased mothers' eternal souls that there will be no reunion, and fans will still keep debating and believing. If Axl and Slash are aware of the latest rumors, they're both probably thinking, "sweet jesus, this again? People really don't have anything better to do with their time?" Since Axl and Slash both have better things to do with THEIR time (even if just re-caulking their bathtubs), they don't waste time responding to reunion rumors......again......and again.......and again. Quote . And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. Yeah, which again, won't ever happen, so why would Axl bother saying anything? Refuting Gun N Roses reunion rumors is about as fruitful as trying to tell people leprechauns, unicorns, and UFOs don't exist. If you believe it, nothing's going to change your mind. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Princess Leia on November 28, 2015, 05:11:41 PM There will always be fans and people in the media and in the industry who won?t give up. But one thing is to dream about a reunion and other thing is this current situation. Axl could give us news about CDII. Why isn?t he saying anything about it? That could calm things down. Both fans and the media would have something else to talk about it. And it will show that Axl is focused on the new album and new band.
The rumors are not only fuel by those fews Slash words about himself and Axl relationship. We know that BBF and DJ left. Since Vegas everything about NuGN?R is in a limbo to say the least. Do you think we will have so much talk about reunion if we knew for sure that Axl and the new band are working together on CDII? Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: dmathski on November 28, 2015, 05:39:37 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: EmilyGNR on November 28, 2015, 08:34:09 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: CherryGarcia on November 28, 2015, 09:20:10 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: carmiedisco12 on November 28, 2015, 10:25:18 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Give up she is insane. How anyone cannot follow your logic is beyond me. To express disappointment and even have doubts based on history is NOT HATING. And don't get huffy because I called you insane Emily, you are the poster child for personal attacks. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 28, 2015, 10:34:28 PM Quote Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right. This is exactly what I've said all along. The entire world has been erupting with overly optimistic furor over one quote that was never on the level to begin with. Quote 2. There's not a single credible report out there. Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans. And again. The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. I know what Vicky Hamilton said. But she hasn?t been their manager in 30 years. And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. even if its a no go, why stop all the buzz? the band is getting a lot of attention. if axl and slash are cool again, maybe slash doesnt mind helping his buddy out by doing... well, nothing. its a decent enough approach. do or say nothing and get a free build up of buzz. i heard the rumors are even helping afd sales. if thats true, then everyone wins by keeping quiet. i dont agree that it wont go away though. this level of buzz can only last for so long without another shock being put into it at some point to move it up to the next octave. things this intense dont just stay the same on their own. the energy either has to move up or down at some point. there is no such thing as perpetual motion in terms of things like these. Create buzz based on a lie it could back fire for all of them. And it is unfair for the fans who at this moment have great expectation about a reunion. Do you really think that Slash, Duff, and Izzy are gonna sell more of their own albums because of this rumor? And I?m not so sure there will be millions of people out there rushing to buy an eventual CD II only because there is a media madness about reunion and more AFD sales i dont know if its true, but i heard afd recently appeared at #80 on the charts again because of the buzz. and you may be right, but in showbiz theres also the whole "any publicity is good publicity" angle. people are talking about gnr again. even if theres no reunion, there may be some upside to that. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 28, 2015, 10:38:22 PM The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. That's exactly it though. The rumors won't go away no matter what. Axl and Slash could publicly swear on both their deceased mothers' eternal souls that there will be no reunion, and fans will still keep debating and believing. If Axl and Slash are aware of the latest rumors, they're both probably thinking, "sweet jesus, this again? People really don't have anything better to do with their time?" Since Axl and Slash both have better things to do with THEIR time (even if just re-caulking their bathtubs), they don't waste time responding to reunion rumors......again......and again.......and again. Quote . And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. Yeah, which again, won't ever happen, so why would Axl bother saying anything? Refuting Gun N Roses reunion rumors is about as fruitful as trying to tell people leprechauns, unicorns, and UFOs don't exist. If you believe it, nothing's going to change your mind. very good point you made there. it would probably be more fun for them to just let people drive themselves crazy than comment, and thats what fans always do in gnr land anyway. we are a collective skitzophrenic fanbase, we love talking to ourselves. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: carmiedisco12 on November 28, 2015, 10:39:08 PM Quote Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right. This is exactly what I've said all along. The entire world has been erupting with overly optimistic furor over one quote that was never on the level to begin with. Quote 2. There's not a single credible report out there. Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans. And again. The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. I know what Vicky Hamilton said. But she hasn?t been their manager in 30 years. And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. even if its a no go, why stop all the buzz? the band is getting a lot of attention. if axl and slash are cool again, maybe slash doesnt mind helping his buddy out by doing... well, nothing. its a decent enough approach. do or say nothing and get a free build up of buzz. i heard the rumors are even helping afd sales. if thats true, then everyone wins by keeping quiet. i dont agree that it wont go away though. this level of buzz can only last for so long without another shock being put into it at some point to move it up to the next octave. things this intense dont just stay the same on their own. the energy either has to move up or down at some point. there is no such thing as perpetual motion in terms of things like these. Create buzz based on a lie it could back fire for all of them. And it is unfair for the fans who at this moment have great expectation about a reunion. Do you really think that Slash, Duff, and Izzy are gonna sell more of their own albums because of this rumor? And I?m not so sure there will be millions of people out there rushing to buy an eventual CD II only because there is a media madness about reunion and more AFD sales i dont know if its true, but i heard afd recently appeared at #80 on the charts again because of the buzz. and you may be right, but in showbiz theres also the whole "any publicity is good publicity" angle. people are talking about gnr again. even if theres no reunion, there may be some upside to that. I think the any publicity angle is an interesting one but it really only applies IMO if there is something to promote. I think with GNR the public cynicism would only worsen if rumors cause expectations (and hopes) to raise only to amount to nothing. regardless whether there was ever any validity to the rumors of if Axl is to 'blame' for a reunion not happening. I think publicity with no end product only worsens the brand because Joe Public would just say 'yep he's fucked it up again'. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: EmilyGNR on November 28, 2015, 10:43:50 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Do you post as George Garcia too? You are certainly obsessed with Jarmo. Very strange. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: CherryGarcia on November 28, 2015, 10:48:39 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Do you post as George Garcia too? You are certainly obsessed with Jarmo. Very strange. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Were you ever taught it's rude to answer a question with a question? Or are you just diverging from the question you were asked to be purposefully obtuse? Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: EmilyGNR on November 28, 2015, 10:49:47 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Give up she is insane. How anyone cannot follow your logic is beyond me. To express disappointment and even have doubts based on history is NOT HATING. And don't get huffy because I called you insane Emily, you are the poster child for personal attacks. Haha I'm always amused when someone projects their inner attitude onto me, always a laugh. Be very careful who you align yourself with. ;) Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 28, 2015, 10:50:02 PM Quote Call us cynical, but the video looks a little fishy. It's possible the quote was either out of context or Slash didn't quite hear the question right. This is exactly what I've said all along. The entire world has been erupting with overly optimistic furor over one quote that was never on the level to begin with. Quote 2. There's not a single credible report out there. Despite the countless articles written about this over the past few months, nobody has produced anything concrete. That explanation could be pretty simple: There is nothing concrete about this. It's just rumor, irresponsible journalism and the fevered wishes of hardcore fans. And again. The thing is this rumor is spining out of control. If it is 120% bullshit then why nobody bothers to stop it once and for all? Are they thinking it is goin to fade away? Well it isn?t. I know what Vicky Hamilton said. But she hasn?t been their manager in 30 years. And Axl has said "not in this life time" I?m afraid he has to repeat it as many times as necessary until fans and the media understand that the reunion is not going to happen. even if its a no go, why stop all the buzz? the band is getting a lot of attention. if axl and slash are cool again, maybe slash doesnt mind helping his buddy out by doing... well, nothing. its a decent enough approach. do or say nothing and get a free build up of buzz. i heard the rumors are even helping afd sales. if thats true, then everyone wins by keeping quiet. i dont agree that it wont go away though. this level of buzz can only last for so long without another shock being put into it at some point to move it up to the next octave. things this intense dont just stay the same on their own. the energy either has to move up or down at some point. there is no such thing as perpetual motion in terms of things like these. Create buzz based on a lie it could back fire for all of them. And it is unfair for the fans who at this moment have great expectation about a reunion. Do you really think that Slash, Duff, and Izzy are gonna sell more of their own albums because of this rumor? And I?m not so sure there will be millions of people out there rushing to buy an eventual CD II only because there is a media madness about reunion and more AFD sales i dont know if its true, but i heard afd recently appeared at #80 on the charts again because of the buzz. and you may be right, but in showbiz theres also the whole "any publicity is good publicity" angle. people are talking about gnr again. even if theres no reunion, there may be some upside to that. I think the any publicity angle is an interesting one but it really only applies IMO if there is something to promote. I think with GNR the public cynicism would only worsen if rumors cause expectations (and hopes) to raise only to amount to nothing. regardless whether there was ever any validity to the rumors of if Axl is to 'blame' for a reunion not happening. I think publicity with no end product only worsens the brand because Joe Public would just say 'yep he's fucked it up again'. who knows, maybe they are timing fernandos upcoming announcement so that it hits at a perfect time. right when people start with the "hes fucked up again" bs, bam, check out my new cd everyone! yknow, take em by surprise. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: EmilyGNR on November 28, 2015, 10:51:43 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Do you post as George Garcia too? You are certainly obsessed with Jarmo. Very strange. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Were you ever taught it's rude to answer a question with a question? Or are you just diverging from the question you were asked to be purposefully obtuse? No I'm honestly trying to make sense of why you troll and post here but yet see fit to go post about Jarmo on another forum. It seems duplicitous, Is this you? I think it is. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 28, 2015, 11:01:27 PM i am of the train of thought that the buzz will likely be made use of in one way or another. i am very interested in things like how long will it last and when will it peak. remember that quote from richard about how ax always ends up coming on stage right when the crowd completely loses their patience, how he runs out there at the last minute and transforms all that wild energy, anticipation, and premature disappointment, and puts it all in the palm of his hand? like it energizes his performance somehow? im thinking well see something like that here.
"they see the edge and they cant hold on now!" about the quarreling going on above, anyone that thinks jarmo has the power to stop a reunion is off their rocker. somebody watches too many soap operas, or has seen selena too many times. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: CherryGarcia on November 28, 2015, 11:04:14 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Do you post as George Garcia too? You are certainly obsessed with Jarmo. Very strange. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Were you ever taught it's rude to answer a question with a question? Or are you just diverging from the question you were asked to be purposefully obtuse? No I'm honestly trying to make sense of why you troll and post here but yet see fit to go post about Jarmo on another forum. It seems duplicitous, Is this you? I think it is. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 I'm trying to make sense of why you can't answer a simple question, and why you feel the need to belittle and become nasty and sarcastic with anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you on everything pertaining to Guns N' Roses. Have you never heard the phrase about flies and honey? Who I am, my dear, doesn't matter. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: EmilyGNR on November 28, 2015, 11:11:16 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Do you post as George Garcia too? You are certainly obsessed with Jarmo. Very strange. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Were you ever taught it's rude to answer a question with a question? Or are you just diverging from the question you were asked to be purposefully obtuse? No I'm honestly trying to make sense of why you troll and post here but yet see fit to go post about Jarmo on another forum. It seems duplicitous, Is this you? I think it is. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 I'm trying to make sense of why you can't answer a simple question, and why you feel the need to belittle and become nasty and sarcastic with anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you on everything pertaining to Guns N' Roses. Have you never heard the phrase about flies and honey? Who I am, my dear, doesn't matter. I get tired of the whining and complaints, I don't care for flies around me. This is quid pro quo "dear" so answer mine now. Did you post this or not George/Cherry Garcia? Why are you so convinced there is some sort of sabotage underway? http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Edit- here's another one. http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3425 Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 28, 2015, 11:20:10 PM i can really feel that holiday spirit in the air. it warms my heart to see my htgth family getting along so well. welcome to the jingle!
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: CherryGarcia on November 28, 2015, 11:39:13 PM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Do you post as George Garcia too? You are certainly obsessed with Jarmo. Very strange. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Were you ever taught it's rude to answer a question with a question? Or are you just diverging from the question you were asked to be purposefully obtuse? No I'm honestly trying to make sense of why you troll and post here but yet see fit to go post about Jarmo on another forum. It seems duplicitous, Is this you? I think it is. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 I'm trying to make sense of why you can't answer a simple question, and why you feel the need to belittle and become nasty and sarcastic with anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you on everything pertaining to Guns N' Roses. Have you never heard the phrase about flies and honey? Who I am, my dear, doesn't matter. I get tired of the whining and complaints, I don't care for flies around me. This is quid pro quo "dear" so answer mine now. Did you post this or not George/Cherry Garcia? Why are you so convinced there is some sort of sabotage underway? http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Edit- here's another one. http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3425 My opinions, sweetie, which are expressed off this forum, have no bearing on here. And no, I have not, nor have ever been, a Communist. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: EmilyGNR on November 29, 2015, 12:05:57 AM At this point I don't see any reason CD II will ever see the light of day. Axl said in 2002 CD would be released that year then release another a year after that then another a year after that and tour the entire time. How dare circumstances arise that delayed the release plan, how dare life happen and change plans! How unfair to you ::) Why do you have to treat anyone who has even an inkling of doubt like they're scum at the edge of a pond? Are you aware of how nasty and condescending you come off to anyone who doesn't tow "everything is 100% great, 100% of the time, everything that happens is great!" party line? Treating anyone who even shows the slightest smidgen of doubt or despair like they're the bad guy, or like they're an idiot who needs to be talked to like they're five, doesn't exactly win hearts and minds. If your attitude is the official GN'R party line ("Support everything we do, all the time, no matter what, don't question anything at all, ever, or fuck off"), can you see why some people would feel pretty alienated by that? Not everyone who is unhappy is unhappy because they're a hater or a troll or because they hate Axl. Many people, myself included, want to see Axl succeed and don't see the current strategy working. Wanting someone succeed, and feeling disappointed in their choices, is not hatred or lack of support. If a parent disapproves of a child's doings, because they feel that child is wasting their potential, does the parent hate the child? Or are they disapproving because they love the child and in their minds, feel the child could do better? Do you post as George Garcia too? You are certainly obsessed with Jarmo. Very strange. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Were you ever taught it's rude to answer a question with a question? Or are you just diverging from the question you were asked to be purposefully obtuse? No I'm honestly trying to make sense of why you troll and post here but yet see fit to go post about Jarmo on another forum. It seems duplicitous, Is this you? I think it is. :nervous: http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 I'm trying to make sense of why you can't answer a simple question, and why you feel the need to belittle and become nasty and sarcastic with anyone who doesn't 100% agree with you on everything pertaining to Guns N' Roses. Have you never heard the phrase about flies and honey? Who I am, my dear, doesn't matter. I get tired of the whining and complaints, I don't care for flies around me. This is quid pro quo "dear" so answer mine now. Did you post this or not George/Cherry Garcia? Why are you so convinced there is some sort of sabotage underway? http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 Edit- here's another one. http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3425 My opinions, sweetie, which are expressed off this forum, have no bearing on here. And no, I have not, nor have ever been, a Communist. But "sweetie" why would you post here and run to gossip and spread rumors somewhere else? It's more than a bit creepy and it's very disingenuous :nervous: Did you make these posts or not? You are dodging my question. http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3449 http://www.thegnrforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3425 Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 29, 2015, 12:40:28 AM ANOTHER jarmo stalker? the guy got really popular all of a sudden for some reason. hes got his own fan club now. one guy wants to toss his salad, another is obsessed with the way he looks, and this one has some crazy ideas about jarmo hating the afd line up and having the power to stop a reunion somehow.
What does it feel like to be famous Jarmo? Do you have more insight into why Axl is such a private person? Next thing you know one of these guys will randomly show up in your kitchen and pour themselves a glass of water like its no big deal. When asked what theyre doing there, theyll say you contacted them telepathically and told them to come. Anyone that gets that reference really knows their gnr history. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: ice cream sand pig on November 29, 2015, 01:05:58 AM even without you guys, hes already got it bad enough. one guy comes to his house five or six days a week and asks him to pretend that he isnt there. "you do your thing and ill do mine, but lets not speak to eachother. well just watch eachother from afar. its more romantic that way".
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 29, 2015, 06:47:24 AM I do feel flattered about all this attention from people I probably never had any kind of communications with other than they read my posts and I might reply to theirs....
Must be doing something right. :) /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: Lucky on November 29, 2015, 10:39:58 AM best reason for reunion:
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/axG5B52_460s.jpg) Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: LIGuns on November 29, 2015, 02:39:54 PM The"clubs" GNR played in, other than the Brooklyn Bowl, weren't dive bars..More in the way of mini-areanas...As far as a reunion goes Axl probably wouldn't be making much more than he does on a successful run with the last few lineups..Pretty sure profits would be split up on a more equal level than they have been recently...
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 29, 2015, 04:32:02 PM The"clubs" GNR played in, other than the Brooklyn Bowl, weren't dive bars..More in the way of mini-areanas...As far as a reunion goes Axl probably wouldn't be making much more than he does on a successful run with the last few lineups..Pretty sure profits would be split up on a more equal level than they have been recently... How do you know how the profits have recently been split? Did you ask him?Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: sky dog on November 29, 2015, 05:53:03 PM fairly obvious Axl isn't doing it to lose money....not an idiot. The UCAP shows were probably done for a number of reasons....part fun, part actually for the fans, part we don't know. The UCAP show in Atlanta was awesome as was the arena show a few months earlier. 2 High quality shows no matter what anyone says...my boys in the ATL were shocked by how good they were and multiple guys went to both and were by no means a real fan of the post Slash era. Anyhow, whatever lies ahead at least will be quite interesting. :P
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: raindog on November 29, 2015, 06:34:34 PM Even that's not a given. Rumours aside, was this year an interesting one for Guns N' Roses? Only if you get your kicks from band members leaving. And the reality is Axl has hinted at nothing, there's no sign of an album or even a song, people don't even know who's in the band or if there is a band. 2016 could just as easily be a repeat of this year.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: LIGuns on November 29, 2015, 09:35:50 PM The"clubs" GNR played in, other than the Brooklyn Bowl, weren't dive bars..More in the way of mini-areanas...As far as a reunion goes Axl probably wouldn't be making much more than he does on a successful run with the last few lineups..Pretty sure profits would be split up on a more equal level than they have been recently... How do you know how the profits have recently been split? Did you ask him?Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: AHUGEAxlFan on November 29, 2015, 09:54:12 PM Even that's not a given. Rumours aside, was this year an interesting one for Guns N' Roses? Only if you get your kicks from band members leaving. And the reality is Axl has hinted at nothing, there's no sign of an album or even a song, people don't even know who's in the band or if there is a band. 2016 could just as easily be a repeat of this year. There's been hints, just not from Axl. The last we heard of anything gnr plans, it was in 2014 and about a album. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 30, 2015, 10:10:20 AM The"clubs" GNR played in, other than the Brooklyn Bowl, weren't dive bars..More in the way of mini-areanas...As far as a reunion goes Axl probably wouldn't be making much more than he does on a successful run with the last few lineups..Pretty sure profits would be split up on a more equal level than they have been recently... How do you know how the profits have recently been split? Did you ask him? Do you think there is much of a chance that if Slash and Duff do come back, its to go on salary and have no say in anything? Does that seem terribly likely? Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: sky dog on November 30, 2015, 10:43:53 AM likely revert back to the 1992 partnership agreement...each has equal say...Axl owns the name...profits split 3 ways after paying whatever hired hands come along for the ride. If Izzy is in, then that would change things substantially.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 30, 2015, 11:06:16 AM likely revert back to the 1992 partnership agreement...each has equal say...Axl owns the name...profits split 3 ways after paying whatever hired hands come along for the ride. If Izzy is in, then that would change things substantially. I would assume so, yes. That's or something very close to it. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 11:39:51 AM Do you think there is much of a chance that if Slash and Duff do come back, its to go on salary and have no say in anything? Does that seem terribly likely? Remember that time when Duff came back an did a bunch of shows? Yes, it was a temporary thing, but still. It sounds like some make things seem more complicated than they might be. Hypothetically speaking. /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 30, 2015, 12:38:44 PM Remember that time when Duff came back an did a bunch of shows? No! When was this??? It was a one off, helping Axl out of a jam type situation. Not sure what, if any, application those few magical nights in South America would have one Slash or Duff coming back full time and how the deal would be structured But I would think even you could concede they aren't coming back as salaried employees with no say in anything. Right? You don't really think that's even a possibility, do you? That's really all that is being said here. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: sky dog on November 30, 2015, 12:47:31 PM I think I could see Izzy being salaried if he only does sporadic shows....not Slash and Duff if they go full time.. That being said, I want Izzy in the mix full time split it evenly four ways. However, I may not get my wish...or anything at all! :P
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 12:48:10 PM One off or not. It included him playing shows with the band.
Way different to him playing a song with the band for example. But I would think even you could concede they aren't coming back as salaried employees with no say in anything. Right? You don't really think that's even a possibility, do you? Define "coming back" and "no say in anything". This hypothetical discussion is so general that it's difficult to answer what you're trying to ask. For example, do they need to own the band name to do a hypothetical reunion tour? No, I don't think so. /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: D-GenerationX on November 30, 2015, 12:52:02 PM Define "coming back" and "no say in anything". This hypothetical discussion is so general that it's difficult to answer what you're trying to ask. "coming back" = performing with Axl Rose as Guns N' Roses "no say in anything" = the way things have been run the past 20 years Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: sky dog on November 30, 2015, 01:02:55 PM Axl won't give up the name issue but I think he would split all profits related to a reunion tour with Slash and Duff. Actually, it would have to be a whole new partnership at this point because the money is substantial ....obviously. I don't think any of them would want to take the time and re-do the 1992 partnership deal so it would be easier to do a new deal separately.
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 01:08:08 PM "coming back" = performing with Axl Rose as Guns N' Roses "no say in anything" = the way things have been run the past 20 years So you think they need to be equal partners in the GN'R business to play some hypothetical reunion shows? What if you start a new business and split those profits and costs three ways for example? /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: LIGuns on November 30, 2015, 04:52:18 PM Reunion or no reunion I'm still anxiously awaiting GNR's next move...
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 05:06:48 PM Reunion or no reunion I'm still anxiously awaiting GNR's next move... Me too. Can't wait to see what's next. :) Note: There's no timeline involved here. I'm not one of those who feel I need something in a certain time frame or I'll get grumpy! :rofl: /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: OscarAxl22 on November 30, 2015, 05:13:10 PM Reunion or no reunion I'm still anxiously awaiting GNR's next move... Me too. Can't wait to see what's next. :) Note: There's no timeline involved here. I'm not one of those who feel I need something in a certain time frame or I'll get grumpy! :rofl: /jarmo Yep... the only band in the world where the Band & Management & those close to the band find the need to accost its fans for wanting the band to release music. :o Good times. Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: poorlakers on November 30, 2015, 05:15:06 PM I would very much like to see it happen (reunification, if you will). Myself, I would rather have a collection of songs to hear versus a live tour that I would not have the time to attend! Just my 2 cents worth.
Poorlakers Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 05:18:15 PM Yep... the only band in the world where the Band & Management & those close to the band find the need to accost its fans for wanting the band to release music. :o Good times. Is it time for the pity party again? Yay! Poor me! So much for you having a sense of humor. I was just making sure none of you who read in circles start trolling and claiming I need things from the band. :P /jarmo Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: banachkevin on November 30, 2015, 05:25:57 PM Can't wait to try get tickets to a show, and I sure hope Richard frank and Chris are included in what ever line up it ends up being
Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: OscarAxl22 on November 30, 2015, 05:59:09 PM Yep... the only band in the world where the Band & Management & those close to the band find the need to accost its fans for wanting the band to release music. :o Good times. Is it time for the pity party again? Yay! Poor me! So much for you having a sense of humor. I was just making sure none of you who read in circles start trolling and claiming I need things from the band. :P /jarmo ;) My sense iof Humour is still here. And plus... im in a good mood.. ive already had your besty Emily trolling me this morning. :D Title: Re: 5 Reasons Guns N' Roses Will Reunite and 5 Reasons They Won't Post by: jarmo on November 30, 2015, 06:19:18 PM Sorry, it's hard to tell if you're in a whiny good mood or a whiny bad mood.
;) /jarmo |