Here Today... Gone To Hell!

For all his faults, Axl, every time he had a grand, big idea back in the old days, it worked. None of the band really wanted to do Sweet Child O' Mine - and it was Axl who pushed for it to be released as a single, and it's the song that blew them into the stratosphere - their sole #1 Billboard Hot 100 hit. It's the song that probably helped push Appetite into being the mega success that it was.

None of the other members really "got" or were into November Rain - and that was their second biggest hit, and it helped catapult them into being iconic.

The video alone was the biggest video on MTV for all of 1992, even though 1992 is supposed to be the year of Kurt Cobain. Sweet Child O' Mine brought the band mainstream success and acceptance, and November Rain cemented Guns' status in pop culture as not just a one hit wonder or one-trick-pony hair band or a flash in the pan. The November Rain video, with Stephanie Seymour in her slutty wedding dress and Slash playing his solo in the desert, is not only a big part of GN'R's history, but it's a part of '90s pop culture. I'm sure there's many a kid out there who danced at their prom in 1992 to November Rain with their childhood sweetheart and many a guy in the 80s who got laid his first time to SCOM.

Axl's not infallible, he's got his flaws like any other human being, and I've had many disagreements with his choices and actions over the years, but no one can really deny his talent, or his vision for having grand, big ideas and his boldness to want to go against the grain and accomplish them. So, here's a toast to Axl :)

While it's commendable that you'd post something positive, it's still hard to take you or your posts seriously.

If it's attention you want, you already got it. :)



/jarmo

beyond being a good singer, songwriter and a solid, energetic and vibrant frontman (that's
already qualities few can pretend to have) Axl has a talent not many people notice :

he can take primer matter and transform it to to gold, taking others contributions to build
a whole great thing adding his own. you must have a very good sense of songwriting and
balance between elements to achieve that.

No doubt.  My brother got married back in May and I was the best man. 

The day before, I posted the video on Facebook with this caption :

With my brother Ryan getting married tomorrow and myself as best man, I consulted the best wedding guide I could think of. From what I can glean, after I saunter up and drop the rings in the priest's bible, I head outside for a killer guitar solo. Guess I should have been practicing that, and not that speech for the reception.

And like, 15 people came up and commented on it at the reception.  Because no one our age doesn't know that video by heart.

That's pretty cool. I didn't think the wedding dress was slutty. Love love love that video!

Bad

 :hihi:


Other Example -> CHINESE DEMOCRACY

Happy 4.000 Post HBK

 :smoking:

We love our HBK....ALWAYS SOLD OUT!

D-gen, did you dive in to the cake?

That's because he is awesome. GNR wouldn't be as big without Axl. He keeps the band rocking all these years

It was discussed.  Ultimately decided against.

I was outvoted.  Pretty selfish bride, you ask me.

Nah, just not a diehard GNR fan. i would have let you do it! But i would have made you pay for the cake. those suckers are at least $500

When it comes to barely credible gnr-songs like u ain't the first, axl do give them some touch. Same on dust and bones.

What kinda GNR fan takes a vote....

Nothing rock n roll about that...

Excuse me miss.....  Do you mind if I miss behave right now?   Oh no?  Ok.  I will sit back down here and drink my milk.....

And you also say you listen to the N.W.A.     hahahahahahahhahaa

I Sold Brother Whit System

 :'(

I think that ability to see things in a grander sense has only sharpened over the years. 30/40/50 years from now, or even further down the road, his behavior and actions during this era will add so much to the mystique and legend of the band.

I am very glad they havent released any imo sub par music in this new era just to get something out there. I feel like that would only hurt the gnr legacy in the longrun and agree with the iron clad standards he holds his music to. Theres too much at stake, its important to be very careful I think. Theres not much to gain from rushing or taking any risks... hes already rich and famous, and gnr is already established as a legendary rock group... sure, he might be able to garner more media attention, but does he really want that? Before Jim Morrisson died, he said if he could do it again he wouldve lived as an anonymous poet. And releasing material more rapidly may appease some fans, but then again, it may not. I think slow and steady is the best way to play this game for him now.

If you think I will always side with him, thats not the case. I hate silkworms because of the vox and lyrics, and my world is such an awful song imo. And what was that he was saying about making a rap version of welcome to the jungle or something along those lines back in the day? That sounds like a terrible idea to me. Hated the rapping on the tokyo dvd. I definitely dont like some of the music he likes as ive looked into some of it. He apparently loved Nirvana, I hate them. Not a fan of janes addiction either.

But as far as music and lyrics go in more recent years (cd), he hit the nail right on the head as far as my personal taste goes. I have no reason to doubt he can do that again, and he can take all the time he wants in my book. Hes earned my respect as an artist, not that he would care. And nobody compares to him as a performer. His act is unreal, just like his voice.

This site is strange. Maybe I'm missing something but why and how is that acceptable?!

so you, with your little 20 posts, will say to us, what it acceptable here or not?

you're funny.

You mean how is questioning a troll acceptable?
If they weren't so desperate for attention, I wouldn't have to do it. :)

So maybe you are missing something....



/jarmo

Or maybe he's just grounded enough to not go for bullshit or instant gratification and give 100% for whatever he does decide to go for? Truly going all in according to your vision is incredibly powerful. Especially when you have the talent to accomplish a lot by yourself instead of having to heavily rely on others to carry out your vision. The first part I can relate to and the latter (talent) I envy a bit...  :D

thats very hard to do! our dna always tells us to go for the instant gratification. its how we survived on this planet throughout all those more ape like phases of our existence. we are still pretty ape like though! 

also, i think theres no need to make the distinction between vision and talent. he wasnt born with a voice like that. i think he himself said he wanted to sing very much. that was the only sort of inborn talent. everything else he had to work for, and that all falls under vision. he has a very strong will. that is rare these days. two important aspects of any major undertaking are will and aim. he has both, so some traditions would say he can "do". usually nobody does anything, everything just happens the way "it" rains, "it snows", "it" thaws. we have the illusion of free will but actually when we think we do, its just a bunch of chemical reactions and brain signals firing off that we have virtually no control over. in other words there are no actions, only reactions. even with him everything just "happens", but it happens in a slightly different way because he has developed a relatively free will. he is more free inside from the will/opinions/pressures of other people than most (it seems), so his will is relatively free, but its still not absolute free will.

Honestly think human evolution has gone backwards in the past several years due to the instant gratification and influence of the internet, the attention spans have shortened to the point where some don't listen to entire albums anymore.

this is very much a problem. for me, attention is about as close to "doing" as it gets. quality and duration of attention are directly related to quality of life. our inner states have been reduced to the level of resembling televisions. this is a real crisis humanity is facing. technology will either cripple our attention, or some some miracle may occur and technology will somehow help us break through to the next level. for example, ive  heard from a psychologist here in okayama that we may be able to create dreams that people can voluntarily experience. because time and matter are so closely interwoven, the dream world allows the usual constraints of time to be bypassed. that means people could potentially experience a lifetime in a single night. but how much experience can our brains actually hold? could we potentially overload and fry them? its a possibility.

either way, it is not uncommon for even 3 year olds to play on smart phones these days. i am curious to see how their generation turns out.

and i do think cd is in a way a challenging album, it may require a certain quality of attention to fully appreciate. there is a lot going on there, and it seems it is not always its intention to simply make you feel good. some of the content is pretty serious or troubling. it does not provide the sort of instantaneous gratification that todays party music typically generates. overall it can be a pretty empowering experience though, one that i have subjected myself to more times than i could count or recollect. i am curious how many times different people have listened to it all the way through, and where i would rank on that list haha. probably not even in the top 500, but i know i wouldnt be anywhere near the bottom.

a toast to axl! i really hope he can pull something like that off again, and i think he can.

Will be the most informed (and misinformed) generation ever.

You sure like to use the term evolution a lot.....   

I do agree with the point people are bums hahahaha   

But I think we always have been bums

The internet and social media just brings it into your home now...

The internet has created a culture of anonymous complainers, and a mob mentality among people that say things on the internet they never would in person.

It has enabled sociopaths and psychopaths and created a whole new sociological problem that wasn't prevailant in the same areas pre-internet.

We used to get GNR news and updates via magazines and MTV back in the stone age :D

this is related, so bear with me. lately i have been pushing myself too hard. the national japanese language proficiency exam is coming up and i have been sweatin it. today i broke. i proclaimed, today i will do nothing. tomorrow as well. ran to lawson (japanese convenient store), grabbed 2 bottles of takara nishiki (pretty good shit, usually no hangover) and headed home. about to start up afd on my ps3... thank god the dvd and or ps3 is not region locked... pound this sake, and forget about everything.

i think sometimes its important to take your time. when im in a rush or stressed out, i behave in all kinds of silly ways and do things i regret. its like my head is on fire. when i take my time, get my head together, and make sure im in the right state before i act, things turn out better than if i act under pressure. under pressure i seem to be more self sabotaging. if my heads on fire, i need to put that fire out before i do other shit. i cant imagine the pressure that comes along with captaining gnr. ron said with gnr, axl is always having to put out hundreds of fires. i think it comes with the territory. but i can relate to taking your time and being your own authority in the sense that you know when you and your work are ready and not compromising.

and yeah baconman, were bums. every last one of us. but were something greater too. were bums plus tax. whatever that amounts to, im not sure.

that dvd is so rad. never get sick of it. i noticed that they really nailed catcher. that song has some of the best lyrics ax has put out in my opinion. cant wait to see more of his lyrics. he really is a great lyricist. dying to see the lyrics for atlas shrugged!

Yeah, weeks or months after it had happened!  :hihi:




/jarmo

Cheers Axl,,, But:

WHERE'S !!!

hes hidin out and layin low. its nothin new to him.

love his new way of singing kohd. its hard to improve on a classic like that. actually it was already a remake of a classic,  so now its like they remade their remake of a classic. its triple classic.

the groove and atmposphere are so perfect. id love to see more stuff like that from modern gnr. i think kohd was the hilight of the afd dvd.