Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Guns N' Roses => Guns N' Roses => Topic started by: CherryGarcia on October 29, 2015, 07:54:03 PM



Title: Silkworms
Post by: CherryGarcia on October 29, 2015, 07:54:03 PM
As I mentioned the other day, I've been listening to my RiR3 boot a lot lately and honestly...I think Silkworms was a really underrated song.

Musically speaking, it's a wonderful mix of punk and electronica and (IMO) is actually pretty catchy. People trash the song for having "immature" lyrics, but are the lyrics of Silkworms any more juvenile than those of "Back Off Bitch" or "Bad Obsession" ("I called my mother, she's just a c--t now...")?

Juvenile lyricism was always a part of GN'R and rock music in general, I mean this is the band that wrote songs like Used to Love Her, Cornshucker and It Tastes Good, Don't It?

IMO, Silkworms was an awesome, underrated rocker from the new band and I wish it hadn't been canned. CD could've used more angry, aggressive songs in a similar vein, and musically, it really gives an idea of Axl's vision - a mix of pure venomous rock with electronic elements.

Anyone feel the same about it?


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: Spirit on October 29, 2015, 08:25:12 PM
I feel the studio version might sound like something in the same vein as Oh My God.

Hopefully we'll hear it sometime.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: LIGuns on October 29, 2015, 10:19:41 PM
Cool song, not very commercial..Appease us and release it via ITunes.....


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: CherryGarcia on October 29, 2015, 10:22:35 PM
Cool song, not very commercial..Appease us and release it via ITunes.....

+this
Would totally pay good money for a studio version of Silkworms.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: LIGuns on October 30, 2015, 09:24:02 AM
Vocal delivery reminds of Down on the Farm..


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 30, 2015, 10:04:07 AM
Hated it when I first heard it.  Sounded like a parody.

But, then I ripped that Evader remix off of Youtube last year.  Kind of got into it.

Yet the intro is still far too long and silly.  But I guess that's to be expected when the guy in charge of sound effects (seriously, what does Chris do in this band?) is one of the main guys behind it.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: EmilyGNR on October 30, 2015, 10:37:10 AM
Hated it when I first heard it.  Sounded like a parody.

But, then I ripped that Evader remix off of Youtube last year.  Kind of got into it.

Yet the intro is still far too long and silly.  But I guess that's to be expected when the guy in charge of sound effects (seriously, what does Chris do in this band?) is one of the main guys behind it.

Just how is the intro "silly?"

The fact that you don't like it does not make it "silly".



Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: matty29 on October 30, 2015, 10:52:05 AM
Hated it when I first heard it.  Sounded like a parody.

But, then I ripped that Evader remix off of Youtube last year.  Kind of got into it.

Yet the intro is still far too long and silly.  But I guess that's to be expected when the guy in charge of sound effects (seriously, what does Chris do in this band?) is one of the main guys behind it.

I agree.  Kinda want to get into it but that intro...  Not my cup of tea.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: CheapJon on October 30, 2015, 10:53:30 AM
Kick ass song, would love a studio version!


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 30, 2015, 10:54:40 AM

Just how is the intro "silly?"

The fact that you don't like it does not make it "silly".


If you lifted it right out and started it when the music kicks in, is the song any worse off?

I'm really just wondering how much the GNR Director Of Sound Effects being one of the creative forces behind it is the reason its even there.  Not unlike if your bass player comes to you with a song that, well I'll be damned, predominantly features the bass more than most of their other songs.

That sort of thing.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: EmilyGNR on October 30, 2015, 11:01:07 AM

Just how is the intro "silly?"

The fact that you don't like it does not make it "silly".


If you lifted it right out and started it when the music kicks in, is the song any worse off?

I'm really just wondering how much the GNR Director Of Sound Effects being one of the creative forces behind it is the reason its even there.  Not unlike if your bass player comes to you with a song that, well I'll be damned, predominantly features the bass more than most of their other songs.

That sort of thing.

I guess when you compose a song you can craft it to your own liking.

 It's better to create something that others criticise than to create nothing & criticise others. ;)


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: Annie on October 30, 2015, 11:22:30 AM

Just how is the intro "silly?"

The fact that you don't like it does not make it "silly".


If you lifted it right out and started it when the music kicks in, is the song any worse off?

I'm really just wondering how much the GNR Director Of Sound Effects being one of the creative forces behind it is the reason its even there.  Not unlike if your bass player comes to you with a song that, well I'll be damned, predominantly features the bass more than most of their other songs.

That sort of thing.

I guess when you compose a song you can craft it to your own liking.

 It's better to create something that others criticise than to create nothing & criticise others. ;)
That is a very true statement. Those who can't create, critique. :peace:
Or become insanely envious.
But people have their own likes and dislikes, and that is OK.
A movie producer once told me that any strong reaction to a body of work whether positive or negative is good.
Great art is known to illicit strong emotions and even start revolutions.
And Jerry Heller said in RUTHLESS that if the parents HATE the music, the kids will LOVE it!


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: LongGoneDay on October 30, 2015, 11:36:34 AM
Judging from the version I heard, think it's very much best left in the can.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: Annie on October 30, 2015, 11:49:53 AM
Judging from the version I heard, think it's very much best left in the can.
That is a bit harsh. But to each their own. :yes: :no:


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: LongGoneDay on October 30, 2015, 11:55:30 AM
Judging from the version I heard, think it's very much best left in the can.
That is a bit harsh. But to each their own. :yes: :no:

If you dig it, hope you get the studio version you wish to hear.
Just not my bag.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: Annie on October 30, 2015, 12:04:28 PM
Judging from the version I heard, think it's very much best left in the can.
That is a bit harsh. But to each their own. :yes: :no:

If you dig it, hope you get the studio version you wish to hear.
Just not my bag.
thankyou. Me too. :beer:


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: Wooody on October 30, 2015, 01:47:42 PM

Just how is the intro "silly?"

The fact that you don't like it does not make it "silly".


If you lifted it right out and started it when the music kicks in, is the song any worse off?

I'm really just wondering how much the GNR Director Of Sound Effects being one of the creative forces behind it is the reason its even there.  Not unlike if your bass player comes to you with a song that, well I'll be damned, predominantly features the bass more than most of their other songs.

That sort of thing.

I guess when you compose a song you can craft it to your own liking.

 It's better to create something that others criticise than to create nothing & criticise others. ;)


You can do both, Create and criticize.  ;D


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: ITARocker on October 30, 2015, 02:16:25 PM
Just a filler, nothing interesting.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: Virolec on October 30, 2015, 04:35:18 PM
It's got some decent guitar work, but it's nothing special.  There are better heavy industrial-type songs on Chinese Democracy, and if Silkworms had made it to the record, it'd just be filler.  Pretty forgettable, and sounds rather dated now, I think. 


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: 19AT5 on October 30, 2015, 07:16:38 PM
Personally I think it's crap and that the melody lines are some of the worst Axl has ever written.


Title: Re: Silkworms
Post by: ice cream sand pig on October 30, 2015, 09:16:30 PM
I never liked this one. Thats not to say its a bad song. Just not for me. I would be kind of bummed to see it take up a precious slot on the next gnr album. Then again, maybe it has undergone a serious overhaul over the years and it will blow me away. The rir version is pretty neat, especially the instruments. Its mainly the vocals and lyrics that do not resonate with me. To me, Axl singing in that voice is like someone driving a Ferrari and not going past first gear. The whole pussy full of maggots thing and the british accent... well, i just dont get it i guess.