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Title: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on October 22, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
Based In Rumors, Fonts NOT-OFICIAL And Members Actually + Old + New, What's your favorite line up ?

1 -> AXL, SLASH, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

2 -> AXL, ROBIN, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

3 -> AXL, TOMMY, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)


(http://i62.tinypic.com/dg6ihh.png)

Vote, Only 3 Options, Cheers !!

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Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Spirit on October 22, 2015, 03:21:55 PM
Of the three of them I'm gonna vote #1.

Would also be happy with a Robin return.



If the line-up actually happens to be like #1, I don't think there will be a 3rd guitarist.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 22, 2015, 03:28:32 PM
Of that list, I'd say #3.

#3 with the exception of Tommy, who sure seemed to be talking about this band in the past tense.

So : Axl, Richard, Dizzy, Frank...and 3 randos

GNR 2016 : It's FANtastic!!


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 22, 2015, 03:45:10 PM

If the line-up actually happens to be like #1, I don't think there will be a 3rd guitarist.


I agree with this.

Because if Slash or Duff return, I'm pretty sure you can kiss any GNR songs recorded post 1991 good-bye.  Thus, no need to for a 3rd guy.

If Slash and Duff return, I think its for a tour only.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2015, 03:54:15 PM
Because if Slash or Duff return, I'm pretty sure you can kiss any GNR songs recorded post 1991 good-bye.  Thus, no need to for a 3rd guy.

Why?




/jarmo


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: JAEBALL on October 22, 2015, 04:04:18 PM
I disagree... Duff played CD songs.. and if Axl and Slash mended fences... I'm sure the good will all around would have Slash play some and maybe even Axl trying his hand at some Slash stuff.

I do agree, that is Slash is around with Izzy or Richard... there is no need for another guitar player.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 22, 2015, 04:04:37 PM

Because if Slash or Duff return, I'm pretty sure you can kiss any GNR songs recorded post 1991 good-bye.  Thus, no need to for a 3rd guy.


Why?


Alright, we're going to give this a try.  How long it lasts, depends on you.

I think if Slash or Duff come back, its to play a reunion tour of sorts with Axl Rose, and to play the songs that made them famous.

I do not think they will have any interest in anything that was done after they left.  In other words, I am of the opinion that for the return of Slash and Duff, the price is that you have heard your last 'Chinese Democracy' song so long as they are the ones on stage.

I also do not think any possible return of Slash or Duff is for anything but a tour, thus no new songs to find their way into a setlist.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 22, 2015, 04:07:39 PM

I disagree... Duff played CD songs.. and if Axl and Slash mended fences... I'm sure the good will all around would have Slash play some and maybe even Axl trying his hand at some Slash stuff.


The difference I see here is that Duff was an emergency fill-in mid tour for a stage show that already has those songs in the mix.  This would be a new endeavor.

I also don't think Slash would be interested in playing songs Axl tried to do without him, any more than I think Axl would be interested in singing any songs Slash tied to do without him.

I think any reunion tour is comprised of GNR songs recorded during 1987-1991, with perhaps a cover or two.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: JAEBALL on October 22, 2015, 04:10:26 PM

I disagree... Duff played CD songs.. and if Axl and Slash mended fences... I'm sure the good will all around would have Slash play some and maybe even Axl trying his hand at some Slash stuff.


The difference I see here is that Duff was an emergency fill-in mid tour for a stage show that already has those songs in the mix.  This would be a new endeavor.

I also don't think Slash would be interested in playing songs Axl tried to do without him, any more than I think Axl would be interested in singing any songs Slash tied to do without him.

I think any reunion tour is comprised of GNR songs recorded during 1987-1991, with perhaps a cover or two.

You very well might be right, but you made it sound as if Slash would be offended to the notion of having to play such material.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 22, 2015, 04:13:43 PM

You very well might be right, but you made it sound as if Slash would be offended to the notion of having to play such material.


Well, I am saying it in a way, I suppose.

I think a better way to put it would be that it would be better if that idea came from Slash's end.  If he suggested it, that would obviously suggest he's cool with it.

On the other hand, if Axl were to insist on it, that might rub Slash the wrong way.  Because he had zero to do with any of that stuff.

Does that make sense?


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2015, 04:15:48 PM
I think if Slash or Duff come back, its to play a reunion tour of sorts with Axl Rose, and to play the songs that made them famous.

I do not think they will have any interest in anything that was done after they left.  In other words, I am of the opinion that for the return of Slash and Duff, the price is that you have heard your last 'Chinese Democracy' song so long as they are the ones on stage.

Ok.
Things to consider. Slash isn't really a musician who doesn't perform music written by others. Duff already has played some of those tracks.

Your theory is based on "I didn't write or record it, I'm not gonna perform it". Which could be true.
But it's also possible that in the hypothetical scenario, they'd see those songs and see a chance to put their stamp on it..... Like "Ok, you heard that song the way the other guys played it, here's what it would've sounded with us"...

I think both are possible scenarios in the hypothetical reunion tour scenario.




/jarmo





Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 22, 2015, 04:26:10 PM

Your theory is based on "I didn't write or record it, I'm not gonna perform it". Which could be true.
But it's also possible that in the hypothetical scenario, they'd see those songs and see a chance to put their stamp on it..... Like "Ok, you heard that song the way the other guys played it, here's what it would've sounded with us"...


That's actually the best case scenario, I think.

Let's face it, they listened to the CD album as soon as they could, regardless of what they said.  They've heard the songs.

I think it would be awesome if they heard some of them and thought, man, I could have done something with this.  Or how, like you say, they'd like a shot to put their stamp on it.

I would absolutely love to hear Slash give 'There Was A Time' and 'This I Love' a whirl.  I think he'd be great on those solos.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Ow-So7411501 on October 22, 2015, 04:31:16 PM
I think if Slash or Duff come back, its to play a reunion tour of sorts with Axl Rose, and to play the songs that made them famous.

I do not think they will have any interest in anything that was done after they left.  In other words, I am of the opinion that for the return of Slash and Duff, the price is that you have heard your last 'Chinese Democracy' song so long as they are the ones on stage.

Ok.
Things to consider. Slash isn't really a musician who doesn't perform music written by others. Duff already has played some of those tracks.

Your theory is based on "I didn't write or record it, I'm not gonna perform it". Which could be true.
But it's also possible that in the hypothetical scenario, they'd see those songs and see a chance to put their stamp on it..... Like "Ok, you heard that song the way the other guys played it, here's what it would've sounded with us"...

I think both are possible scenarios in the hypothetical reunion tour scenario.




/jarmo





I think its a different scenario though. On the one hand, yes he's been known to play covers from other artists. On the other, He was a founding member of Guns N Roses (depending on who you ask...lol), so it may be a bit weird for him to play music created by other artists under the GNR moniker.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on October 22, 2015, 04:38:18 PM

I think its a different scenario though. On the one hand, yes he's been known to play covers from other artists. On the other, He was a founding member of Guns N Roses (depending on who you ask...lol), so it may be a bit weird for him to play music created by other artists under the GNR moniker.


I think its a delicate situation.  Which is why I think it best if the idea came from Slash, because then you know he's cool with it.

Asking him to play 'Catcher In The Rye' is not the same as suggesting they play 'Dead Flowers' or 'Whole Lotta Rosie'.

It not a perfect analogy, but I think the point is at least somewhat transferable :

If you had a girlfriend you broke up with, then reconciled with 10 years later, would you really draw much attention to things you did with other girls in the meantime?  I doubt it.  Because its awkward.  It might be best to leave all that stuff be, lest risk the reconciliation.

Like I said, not a perfect analogy.  But you see the point I'm after.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: JMB-GNR on October 22, 2015, 05:05:42 PM

I would absolutely love to hear Slash give 'There Was A Time' and 'This I Love' a whirl.  I think he'd be great on those solos.

oh yeah!  8)


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on October 22, 2015, 05:06:37 PM
I Think IZZY Only Invited.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on October 22, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
I think its a different scenario though. On the one hand, yes he's been known to play covers from other artists. On the other, He was a founding member of Guns N Roses (depending on who you ask...lol), so it may be a bit weird for him to play music created by other artists under the GNR moniker.

Fair point.

If you don't remember that songs like Reckless Life, Anything Goes and so on were co-written by people who were in pre-GN'R bands.... So not GN'R, but not that far off.
He had no trouble playing and recording songs that Axl and Izzy's old band originally wrote back in the day. Maybe his attitude changed. Who knows.

Anyway, I don't see that being a big stretch. Duff already played them.
And who knows, some of those songs (like This I Love) might have started back when Slash was still in the band...



/jarmo



Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: GnR-NOW on October 22, 2015, 06:00:20 PM
I would like to see option 1, but I think option 3 is more realistic.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on October 22, 2015, 06:21:07 PM
I would like to see option 1, but I think option 3 is more realistic.

Good Point

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Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: GnR-NOW on October 22, 2015, 10:35:34 PM
I would like to see option 1, but I think option 3 is more realistic.

Good Point

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I know in another thread some people talked about orianthi as a good replacement. I was against a woman in GNR but I saw Nita Strauss play with Alice cooper and she rocked. Good player and stage presence plus she's hot as hell!


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Jim Bob on October 23, 2015, 01:37:18 AM
With NIN on hiatus, I wonder if Robin could end up back in the band??    Wouldn't be the first time he returned.     Probably not, but would be cool.   :beer:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: hRob on October 23, 2015, 03:47:45 AM
If you had a girlfriend you broke up with, then reconciled with 10 years later, would you really draw much attention to things you did with other girls in the meantime?  I doubt it.  Because its awkward.  It might be best to leave all that stuff be, lest risk the reconciliation.

Like I said, not a perfect analogy.  But you see the point I'm after.

That's pretty much exactly what Ian Gillan is saying about Deep Purple's MK3 era/songs.

It's a possible scenario and then there is also the Iron Maiden/Bruce Dickinson approach, where Bruce doesn't seem to mind to sing a Blaze song here and there.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on October 23, 2015, 06:34:29 AM
Singing is a bit different than guitar playing don't you think?  ???




/jarmo



Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Trash Boat on October 23, 2015, 06:54:00 AM
Go for option 1, but don't mind as long as Axl is cool with whatever he chooses  :peace:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: carmiedisco12 on October 23, 2015, 06:57:44 AM
Personally I just don't see Slash playing with Axl for 2 years minimum even if the relationship has thawed. Too many potential pitfalls and legal issues to broach. The latest incarnation of GNR appears to be dead in the water and replacing 2-3 members to tour CD again would simply stretch the friendship too far with many. So It does seem if GNR are to continue the only viable option is a partial reunion I think it's likely some time off away from the spotlight to concentrate on the personal relationship is the most important aspect anyway. Another issue is that said Duff and Slash will not stick around for lengthy periods of inactivity and most certainly would not allow themselves to be as out of the loop as the previous guys.....I think I'm saying who the hell knows.

But what the hey, we are speculating and stating our dream team.

Axl
Slash
Izzy (If new songs are being written) or Richard if not. (Although I do think a Slash/Richard combo could work brilliantly)
Duff
Frank
Dizzy

Jarmo, if we are discussing a dream team scenario who would you rate as the best combo for either a tour or a new album. As a fan of all incarnations which members hold which strengths and chemistry to you?


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on October 23, 2015, 07:12:09 AM
Personally I just don't see Slash playing with Axl for 2 years minimum even if the relationship has thawed. Too many potential pitfalls and legal issues to broach. The latest incarnation of GNR appears to be dead in the water and replacing 2-3 members to tour CD again would simply stretch the friendship too far with many. So It does seem if GNR are to continue the only viable option is a partial reunion I think it's likely some time off away from the spotlight to concentrate on the personal relationship is the most important aspect anyway. Another issue is that said Duff and Slash will not stick around for lengthy periods of inactivity and most certainly would not allow themselves to be as out of the loop as the previous guys.....I think I'm saying who the hell knows.

But what the hey, we are speculating and stating our dream team.

Axl
Slash
Izzy (If new songs are being written) or Richard if not. (Although I do think a Slash/Richard combo could work brilliantly)
Duff
Frank
Dizzy

Jarmo, if we are discussing a dream team scenario who would you rate as the best combo for either a tour or a new album. As a fan of all incarnations which members hold which strengths and chemistry to you?

Pitman Is In GNR


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: carmiedisco12 on October 23, 2015, 08:36:02 AM
Personally I just don't see Slash playing with Axl for 2 years minimum even if the relationship has thawed. Too many potential pitfalls and legal issues to broach. The latest incarnation of GNR appears to be dead in the water and replacing 2-3 members to tour CD again would simply stretch the friendship too far with many. So It does seem if GNR are to continue the only viable option is a partial reunion I think it's likely some time off away from the spotlight to concentrate on the personal relationship is the most important aspect anyway. Another issue is that said Duff and Slash will not stick around for lengthy periods of inactivity and most certainly would not allow themselves to be as out of the loop as the previous guys.....I think I'm saying who the hell knows.

But what the hey, we are speculating and stating our dream team.

Axl
Slash
Izzy (If new songs are being written) or Richard if not. (Although I do think a Slash/Richard combo could work brilliantly)
Duff
Frank
Dizzy

Jarmo, if we are discussing a dream team scenario who would you rate as the best combo for either a tour or a new album. As a fan of all incarnations which members hold which strengths and chemistry to you?

Pitman Is In GNR


Yes but that's my wish list I guess. Happy for him to remain but then again am not too fussed either.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: JAEBALL on October 23, 2015, 08:47:38 AM
I'd like to see the musicians who had a hand in writing and recording the albums they worked on.

If they are going to play a set of 85 percent Appetite and illusions... well then I want to see Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy play them. Pick a drummer, preferably Matt Sorum and sprinkle in Dizzy on the songs that are needed.

Same as always...

If Axl ever wanted to do a Chinese Democracy residency and play thru the album... then I would want to see those people onstage with him... (Robin, Brain, Buckethead)

This makes sense to people right?  ::)


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on October 23, 2015, 10:15:36 AM
Axl
Slash
Izzy (If new songs are being written) or Richard if not. (Although I do think a Slash/Richard combo could work brilliantly)
Duff
Frank
Dizzy

Jarmo, if we are discussing a dream team scenario who would you rate as the best combo for either a tour or a new album. As a fan of all incarnations which members hold which strengths and chemistry to you?

You forgot Chris.
Anyway, what you just posted would probably make most fans and casual fans happy since they'd get the "reunion". Even if it wasn't the AFD5.

All the line ups I've seen have played great shows and had great chemistry.
Both Duff and Tommy worked well. Many fans have a nostalgic (?) emotional attachment to Duff since he was part of the band way back when they made those old albums and videos.



/jarmo


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on October 23, 2015, 10:30:49 AM
I'd like to see the musicians who had a hand in writing and recording the albums they worked on.

If they are going to play a set of 85 percent Appetite and illusions... well then I want to see Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy play them. Pick a drummer, preferably Matt Sorum and sprinkle in Dizzy on the songs that are needed.

Same as always...

If Axl ever wanted to do a Chinese Democracy residency and play thru the album... then I would want to see those people onstage with him... (Robin, Brain, Buckethead)

This makes sense to people right?  ::)


You Remember ?

- GNR NOT IS BURGUER KING -

 :beer:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: JAEBALL on October 23, 2015, 10:31:46 AM
I'm sorry... I hope to see Duff on bass play It's So Easy over anybody else. I don't know if that makes me nostalgic or not.

I just don't want two brand new guitar players and or a brand new bass player, that have nothing to do with not one Guns N Roses recording.

Which i think is at least a decent possibility... Even if Slash gets up there one day... I don't think it will be in 2016, if you assume he's telling the truth about a new album and tour this coming year... so where do they go for lead guitar?

Robin? I'd be on board with that...Richard take over the bulk of lead parts? Maybe Ron does a 180? ALL better options than new guys joining up.

Who the fuck knows.


HBK... I apologize for getting away from the intent of ur poll.. If I have to choose from ur options... I'll say 1.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: JAEBALL on October 23, 2015, 10:32:45 AM
I'd like to see the musicians who had a hand in writing and recording the albums they worked on.

If they are going to play a set of 85 percent Appetite and illusions... well then I want to see Axl, Slash, Duff and Izzy play them. Pick a drummer, preferably Matt Sorum and sprinkle in Dizzy on the songs that are needed.

Same as always...

If Axl ever wanted to do a Chinese Democracy residency and play thru the album... then I would want to see those people onstage with him... (Robin, Brain, Buckethead)

This makes sense to people right?  ::)


You Remember ?

- GNR NOT IS BURGUER KING -

 :beer:

I apologize, but I don't follow this one.

You asked what peoples preference are... so I gave it.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on October 23, 2015, 10:35:18 AM
I'm sorry... I hope to see Duff on bass play It's So Easy over anybody else. I don't know if that makes me nostalgic or not.

I just don't want two brand new guitar players and or a brand new bass player, that have nothing to do with not one Guns N Roses recording.

Which i think is at least a decent possibility... Even if Slash gets up there one day... I don't think it will be in 2016, if you assume he's telling the truth about a new album and tour this coming year... so where do they go for lead guitar?

Robin? I'd be on board with that...Richard take over the bulk of lead parts? Maybe Ron does a 180? ALL better options than new guys joining up.

Who the fuck knows.


HBK... I apologize for getting away from the intent of ur poll.. If I have to choose from ur options... I'll say 1.

It was just a reminder

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Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Sosso on December 18, 2015, 10:55:45 AM
My favourite line ups for 2016:

1. Axl Rose, Dizzy Reed, Robin Finck, Tommy Stinson, Chris Pitman, Richard Fortus, Frank Ferrer, Dave Navarro

2. Axl Rose, Dizzy Reed, Robin Finck, Tommy Stinson, Chris Pitman, Buckethead, Bain, Richard Fortus

3. Axl Rose, Tracii Guns, Dizzy Reed, Tommy Stinson, Chris Pitman, Richard Fortus, Frank Ferrer, Dave Navarro


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 18, 2015, 01:52:42 PM
Tracii Guns would have to be one the longer shots, I would think.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 18, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Tracii Guns would have to be one the longer shots, I would think.

But he was an original member :D


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on December 18, 2015, 04:17:56 PM
Oh no you didn't.....

Here comes the "But Axl said...." brigade.



/jarmo


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 18, 2015, 08:56:18 PM
Tracii Guns

The only L.A. Guns tune I can recall is 'The Ballad Of Jayne', which I always sort of liked.

Did they have any other "hits"?  Or at least videos that got airplay?


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: ice cream sand pig on December 19, 2015, 07:13:03 AM
Tracii Guns

The only L.A. Guns tune I can recall is 'The Ballad Of Jayne', which I always sort of liked.

Did they have any other "hits"?  Or at least videos that got airplay?

i saw their greatest hits album once. true story. didnt buy it though, bought jonny cash american 5 instead, even though i was curious. i kind of figured the only reason they had a cd in best buy was because people hard core enough would know the gnr connection and buy it based off that. could be wrong.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: DeN on December 19, 2015, 10:30:50 AM
With NIN on hiatus, I wonder if Robin could end up back in the band?? 

not anymore.

Nine Inch Nails set to return in 2016 says Trent Reznor

(http://nme.assets.ipccdn.co.uk/images/2013NineInchNails_NIN_Press_BaldurBragson210813.article_x4.jpg)

Posting on his personal account, Reznor said "New NIN coming in 2016. Other stuff, too."

http://www.nme.com/news/nine-inch-nails/90425


so, I would say : no Slash, and no Robin.












Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Sosso on December 19, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
Tracii Guns

The only L.A. Guns tune I can recall is 'The Ballad Of Jayne', which I always sort of liked.

Did they have any other "hits"?  Or at least videos that got airplay?

I just wanna see if Tracii and Axl still can work together, at least in form of a tour.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Bridge on December 19, 2015, 02:23:39 PM
I just wanna see if Tracii and Axl still can work together, at least in form of a tour.

"Still work together?"  But they never did really work together in the form of a tour.  Tracii ditched the band and got himself canned.   :P  Even Emily's not gonna deny that one!   :D


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 20, 2015, 04:15:44 AM
But it's also possible that in the hypothetical scenario, they'd see those songs and see a chance to put their stamp on it..... Like "Ok, you heard that song the way the other guys played it, here's what it would've sounded with us"...

I think both are possible scenarios in the hypothetical reunion tour scenario.




/jarmo





Possible, but hard to see. I think it's possible that Slash has no interest in "putting his stamp" on anything off of this album.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: sky dog on December 20, 2015, 12:31:10 PM
Bizzaro World....buckle your chin straps boys and girls. I think it is on. :yes:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: CherryGarcia on December 20, 2015, 01:19:38 PM
Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt, Dizzy

or

Axl, Robin, Bucket, Paul, Tommy, Brain, Dizzy, Chris


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: DeN on December 21, 2015, 08:07:48 AM
DJ replacement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQUvtXz3ZeY


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Wooody on December 21, 2015, 02:24:11 PM
For the people saying Axl and Duff won't play over stuff already written by old band members. I think that's more likely to happen, than Axl Slash and Duff writting new stuff together.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 21, 2015, 02:29:21 PM

For the people saying Axl and Duff won't play over stuff already written by old band members. I think that's more likely to happen, than Axl Slash and Duff writting new stuff together.


Well, put in those terms, sure.

The chances that Axl, Slash and Duff would start from scratch and put out some new album is total fantasy.

Slash and Duff being interested in things Robin Finck and Paul Tobias wrote 10-12 years ago is only mostly fantasy.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 21, 2015, 04:40:11 PM

For the people saying Axl and Duff won't play over stuff already written by old band members. I think that's more likely to happen, than Axl Slash and Duff writting new stuff together.


Well, put in those terms, sure.

The chances that Axl, Slash and Duff would start from scratch and put out some new album is total fantasy.

Slash and Duff being interested in things Robin Finck and Paul Tobias wrote 10-12 years ago is only mostly fantasy.

I'm not so sure it is "total fantasy"..

I mean, for starters, everyone knows Slash likes to keep moving forward, keeping busy... hes been quite prolific the last few years with Myles. IF hes going to continue doing those things with Myles (and all indications are that is what is going to happen), then a GNR tour is probably fine with him as an extra and a huge pay day. 

IF Axl wants GNR to be a full-time gig... in terms of commitment, and time spent.. then is Slash going to be happy with that if they arent writing anything? If its reunion only.. does anyone see CD2 seeing the light of day? What you are suggesting is almost.. we have seen the last GNR album released. If Theres nothing on the horizon for CD2, and slash/duff/axl writing another album is fantasy.. then we have pretty much seen the last new music going on that premise.

There is a million scenarios at play here. With bugger all info to go on... its just guess work. Some scenarios are more plausible then others though granted.  ;)


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 21, 2015, 07:33:05 PM
I think if there is a reunion tour, CD II never sees the light of day.

I see this as a zero sum game.  You gotta pick which you'd rather have.

I'm interested to hear CD II, but where are we on that?  Nowhere. 

So give me the reunion tour.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 21, 2015, 07:53:11 PM
I think if there is a reunion tour, CD II never sees the light of day.

I see this as a zero sum game.  You gotta pick which you'd rather have.

I'm interested to hear CD II, but where are we on that?  Nowhere. 

So give me the reunion tour.

Oh I agree... If there is a reunion, then i dont CD2 ever seeing the light of day either. It makes no sense for that to happen IMO.

What i am saying is, if there is talks about these guys getting back together, do you think new music from these guys is really that far out of the realms of possibility? I dont see Guns reforming in terms of Axl, Slash, and Duff and (and whoever else) and Slash being totally content to just roll through the hits for the next however long? Thats not how Slash operates these days. If this reunion goes ahead and its say a selected set of dates and thats it.. then yeah.. ok... i see that happening, but if they are back together.. as a band.. in an ongoing capacity... for Slash at least, i think he would not be content with just doing tours.. there has to be new music.

Thats where all this gets interesting (in terms of being a fan and speculating).. if there is a reunion.. to what extent does this go? Slash has been vocal that hes got new stuff happening with Myles.. so perhaps hes happy with that as far as pumping new music out is concerned? But you cant tell me that if there has been talks going on.. this subject would surely have to have been discussed...

where are they going with it? 





Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 21, 2015, 07:58:17 PM

What i am saying is, if there is talks about these guys getting back together, do you think new music from these guys is really that far out of the realms of possibility?


Yes, I do.  100%

They would be starting from absolute scratch.  And even in their prime, they weren't workaholics.  They put AFD together quickly, but that was also having a lot of that already together.  UYI was over 4 years later.

So if you are asking me the chances they all patch it up, all get in the studio, and crank something out quickly are good?  I say no.

As you said in the rest of your post, Slash has other shit going on.  Is he really going to sit around for god knows how long while Axl waits for the inspiration to lay down some vocals?  Or has to be reminded were the studio even is?

No, if this happens, I see a thanks for the memories type of reunion tour where they end it on a higher note than they left it in 1993.

But I think their days as a creative force are in the rearviewmirror.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 21, 2015, 08:12:50 PM

What i am saying is, if there is talks about these guys getting back together, do you think new music from these guys is really that far out of the realms of possibility?


Yes, I do.  100%

They would be starting from absolute scratch.  And even in their prime, they weren't workaholics.  They put AFD together quickly, but that was also having a lot of that already together.  UYI was over 4 years later.

So if you are asking me the chances they all patch it up, all get in the studio, and crank something out quickly are good?  I say no.

As you said in the rest of your post, Slash has other shit going on.  Is he really going to sit around for god knows how long while Axl waits for the inspiration to lay down some vocals?  Or has to be reminded were the studio even is?

No, if this happens, I see a thanks for the memories type of reunion tour where they end it on a higher note than they left it in 1993.

But I think their days as a creative force are in the rearviewmirror.

I can see that point of view.

But im on the other end of the argument, even though i know i am backing the roughie here.  ;)

Call it stupidity... because every point ^^^ is completely on the money, but i see one more album. And i dont see CD2.

Axl hasnt been spotted for 18 months, i honestly think we will see a physically fit, vocally strong Axl when he returns, most definitely that will be the case if its a reunion. That spotlight is huge, and he will not want to be seen as a weak link... this thing is too big for that.

Which brings me to the point above... yes... i do see him being refreshed and willing to re-enter a studio and highly motivated.. especially if mistakes have been learnt from. If they want to do an album, and they creatively agree on which direction that should be, i honestly see no barrier in getting it done with a renewed attitude towards it.

The probably of it happening? I dunno...maybe 5%

but we said that about reunion.... and that probability no longer sits at 5% in most peoples eyes.

(note, i have my positivity hat on today)  :D


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 21, 2015, 09:11:29 PM

What i am saying is, if there is talks about these guys getting back together, do you think new music from these guys is really that far out of the realms of possibility?


Yes, I do.  100%

They would be starting from absolute scratch.  And even in their prime, they weren't workaholics.  They put AFD together quickly, but that was also having a lot of that already together.  UYI was over 4 years later.

So if you are asking me the chances they all patch it up, all get in the studio, and crank something out quickly are good?  I say no.

As you said in the rest of your post, Slash has other shit going on.  Is he really going to sit around for god knows how long while Axl waits for the inspiration to lay down some vocals?  Or has to be reminded were the studio even is?

No, if this happens, I see a thanks for the memories type of reunion tour where they end it on a higher note than they left it in 1993.

But I think their days as a creative force are in the rearviewmirror.

"Has to be reminded of where the studio is"

You are full of massive amounts of pure, unadulterated shit with comments like this.  :rant:

Happy Festivus!


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: The Wight Gunner on December 22, 2015, 03:59:14 AM
I think if there is a reunion tour, CD II never sees the light of day.

I see this as a zero sum game.  You gotta pick which you'd rather have.

I'm interested to hear CD II, but where are we on that?  Nowhere. 

So give me the reunion tour.

Oh I agree... If there is a reunion, then i dont CD2 ever seeing the light of day either. It makes no sense for that to happen IMO.

What i am saying is, if there is talks about these guys getting back together, do you think new music from these guys is really that far out of the realms of possibility? I dont see Guns reforming in terms of Axl, Slash, and Duff and (and whoever else) and Slash being totally content to just roll through the hits for the next however long? Thats not how Slash operates these days. If this reunion goes ahead and its say a selected set of dates and thats it.. then yeah.. ok... i see that happening, but if they are back together.. as a band.. in an ongoing capacity... for Slash at least, i think he would not be content with just doing tours.. there has to be new music.

Thats where all this gets interesting (in terms of being a fan and speculating).. if there is a reunion.. to what extent does this go? Slash has been vocal that hes got new stuff happening with Myles.. so perhaps hes happy with that as far as pumping new music out is concerned? But you cant tell me that if there has been talks going on.. this subject would surely have to have been discussed...

where are they going with it? 




This would validate the article that says the AFD line-up want to clear up their obligations before getting together


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on December 22, 2015, 05:55:09 AM
If there is a reunion, then i dont CD2 ever seeing the light of day either. It makes no sense for that to happen IMO.

I don't know how the business works. I'm sure the real experts can enlighten us.

But if I was in the record company, there was an album ready and GN'R were suddenly getting a lot of media attention, I'd make sure everything was in place for Axl to put out music. However he wanted to.
That makes a lot of sense to me.




/jarmo




Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: sky dog on December 22, 2015, 08:33:33 AM
yep....


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: DeN on December 22, 2015, 09:20:37 AM

I'm surprised there's still no new single in the air...


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 22, 2015, 02:08:10 PM

But if I was in the record company, there was an album ready and GN'R were suddenly getting a lot of media attention, I'd make sure everything was in place for Axl to put out music. However he wanted to.
That makes a lot of sense to me.


So, for the purposes of this particular conversation, we are operating under the premise the album is done, and the label is happy with it?

Because its hard to keep it all straight.  He both has completed tracks done, and doesn't have completed tracks done.  He has a label that is not digging what he's been turning in, but also a label that can't wait to get it out there.

Lot of moving parts here.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Wooody on December 22, 2015, 02:42:05 PM
Tracii Guns

The only L.A. Guns tune I can recall is 'The Ballad Of Jayne', which I always sort of liked.

Did they have any other "hits"?  Or at least videos that got airplay?

I just wanna see if Tracii and Axl still can work together, at least in form of a tour.

Last time Tracii brought it up, Axl laughed at the idea.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on December 22, 2015, 02:49:07 PM
So, for the purposes of this particular conversation, we are operating under the premise the album is done, and the label is happy with it?

Because its hard to keep it all straight.  He both has completed tracks done, and doesn't have completed tracks done.  He has a label that is not digging what he's been turning in, but also a label that can't wait to get it out there.

Lot of moving parts here.

You wanna play games?

I don't see the big deal assuming there'd be a finished album at some point. When there's media interest around the band.

Just like I said:



But if I was in the record company, there was an album ready and GN'R were suddenly getting a lot of media attention, I'd make sure everything was in place for Axl to put out music. However he wanted to.
That makes a lot of sense to me.

I put it in red for you so you'll notice. It seems to be the thing to do when you want something to get noticed. Apparently.
Yes, it's an assumption. You should be used to assumptions, it's what you do day in and day out.  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 04:22:49 PM
Jarmo,

I still don't think CD2 coming out makes any sense what so ever if a reunion is on.

If the label contractually is owed another album, they'll want slash and duff on it over CD2 for maximum $$$

Just my op of course.





Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Sosso on December 22, 2015, 05:07:19 PM
CD II and III with Duff and Slash would make no sense, but I think they could play some of the songs life (Duff did it in 2014).
Maybe as special Guests (like Sebastian Bach on Sorry) but not as band members.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on December 22, 2015, 05:15:52 PM
Jarmo,

I still don't think CD2 coming out makes any sense what so ever if a reunion is on.

If the label contractually is owed another album, they'll want slash and duff on it over CD2 for maximum $$$

Just my op of course.

So you don't believe in the old saying "strike while the iron is hot"?
All I was saying that IF there was an opportunity, the record company could use all that attention to their benefit. :)

Well, the record company might want to add former members if they want to market is as a reunion album. And hope that will in turn bring more attention to it....




/jarmo


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 05:43:28 PM
Jarmo,

I still don't think CD2 coming out makes any sense what so ever if a reunion is on.

If the label contractually is owed another album, they'll want slash and duff on it over CD2 for maximum $$$

Just my op of course.

So you don't believe in the old saying "strike while the iron is hot"?
All I was saying that IF there was an opportunity, the record company could use all that attention to their benefit. :)

Well, the record company might want to add former members if they want to market is as a reunion album. And hope that will in turn bring more attention to it....




/jarmo


I get what you are saying...

My opinion is... that if CD2 was coming out, it would be out by now.





Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: sky dog on December 22, 2015, 05:44:33 PM
It doesn't have to be CD II, III, or X! It can just be a Guns N Roses album for God's sake! :confused:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: sky dog on December 22, 2015, 05:48:39 PM
maybe, just maybe....a couple other guys are putting their stamp on some of the stuff recorded during the Chinese sessions....it is not out of the question at all. In the end, everything on any Chinese material was done with Axl's approval. Slash and Duff may dig some ideas and DIVE IN AND FIND THE MONKEY! Who the fuck knows at this point, but all options are open IMO. :peace:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 05:54:30 PM
Skydog, thats a possibility too...

But i mean... does Duff & Slash working on CD stuff previously recorded by Axl's hired hands make any sense for them? I'd say No. I mean.. its not out of the realms of possibilities.. but its not exactly the number 1 possibility either IMO.

If Slash and Duff wanted to work with Axl and release a guns album, surely theyd be more interested in new ideas than something that has been worked on for over 10 years by a previous line up?



Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 05:58:42 PM
Skydog, thats a possibility too...

But i mean... does Duff & Slash working on CD stuff previously recorded by Axl's hired hands make any sense for them? I'd say No. I mean.. its not out of the realms of possibilities.. but its not exactly the number 1 possibility either IMO.

If Slash and Duff wanted to work with Axl and release a guns album, surely theyd be more interested in new ideas than something that has been worked on for over 10 years by a previous line up?



Why is is neccesary to demean  band members by referring to them as "hired hands"?

I truly don't get this mindset and why everything has to be so negative.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: sky dog on December 22, 2015, 06:04:38 PM
Oscar, maybe they put out an EP of songs they dig from those sessions to have some new music to tour with until they can decide on the future. I think it is likely that they play a few big shows initially to test the waters for a full tour and potential return to the studio. Plus, those hired hands were pretty fucking talented....

On the flip side, maybe Slash gave Axl a few tracks that Axl likes and wants to work on....a lot of possibilities here. As long as the material remains unreleased, includes Duff-Slash-or Axl material, it is fair game to be manipulated and changed. Think about it....


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on December 22, 2015, 06:06:41 PM
My opinion is... that if CD2 was coming out, it would be out by now.

Define "out by now".

It's a pretty broad statement. You mean out in 1999? 2003? 2009? 2015? What?



/jarmo


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: sky dog on December 22, 2015, 06:13:03 PM
Emily, it still cracks me up. Anybody who thinks Duff has more street cred in the biz than Tommy is simply delusional. They are both great, but to demean Tommy as some cheap hired hand is downright offensive. :rant:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jarmo on December 22, 2015, 06:20:13 PM
Don't hold back!  ;D



/jarmo


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 07:27:04 PM
Oscar, maybe they put out an EP of songs they dig from those sessions to have some new music to tour with until they can decide on the future. I think it is likely that they play a few big shows initially to test the waters for a full tour and potential return to the studio. Plus, those hired hands were pretty fucking talented....

On the flip side, maybe Slash gave Axl a few tracks that Axl likes and wants to work on....a lot of possibilities here. As long as the material remains unreleased, includes Duff-Slash-or Axl material, it is fair game to be manipulated and changed. Think about it....

I think this a much stronger possibility then seeing Slash re-record on anything to do with CD2...

As i said yesterday to DX, i think duff and slash collaborating on new ideas with Axl isnt such a stretch of the imagination...

I think its a more plausible scenario then them re-recording parts for CD.



Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 07:28:25 PM
Skydog, thats a possibility too...

But i mean... does Duff & Slash working on CD stuff previously recorded by Axl's hired hands make any sense for them? I'd say No. I mean.. its not out of the realms of possibilities.. but its not exactly the number 1 possibility either IMO.

If Slash and Duff wanted to work with Axl and release a guns album, surely theyd be more interested in new ideas than something that has been worked on for over 10 years by a previous line up?



Why is is neccesary to demean  band members by referring to them as "hired hands"?

I truly don't get this mindset and why everything has to be so negative.

You could have addressed the topics we were discussing rather then nit-picking... but anyway.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 07:30:42 PM
Emily, it still cracks me up. Anybody who thinks Duff has more street cred in the biz than Tommy is simply delusional. They are both great, but to demean Tommy as some cheap hired hand is downright offensive. :rant:

Agreed, it just shows ignorance-either willful or otherwise-  on the part of the person throwing around the label "hired hands".

Very offensive terminology.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: carmiedisco12 on December 22, 2015, 08:56:29 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 09:01:20 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: carmiedisco12 on December 22, 2015, 09:10:47 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


I think it is a bit of a dig but nothing to get upset about the way you do. The view that these guys have not been allowed a chance to shine and have been essentially treated as 'hired hands' has some legitimacy. It's not a 'get out of here' idea. Therefore because it falls within the realms of plausibility who are you to tell off anyone (or get offended for god's sake) if someone uses the term?

If anything I think the term may be used with some sympathy for the guys that were hired and were unable to drag Axl to the recording studio or to add vocals to musical sketches etc.

Either way who cares. It's not blatantly aggressive so let others have a view.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


I think it is a bit of a dig but nothing to get upset about the way you do. The view that these guys have not been allowed a chance to shine and have been essentially treated as 'hired hands' has some legitimacy. It's not a 'get out of here' idea. Therefore because it falls within the realms of plausibility who are you to tell off anyone (or get offended for god's sake) if someone uses the term?

If anything I think the term may be used with some sympathy for the guys that were hired and were unable to drag Axl to the recording studio or to add vocals to musical sketches etc.

Either way who cares. It's not blatantly aggressive so let others have a view.

Honestly wasn't upset, trying to gauge emotions from an internet post isn't very accurate .

It's annoying when some trolls parade out the same offensive idiocy and terminology day after day, it is tiring.

Please provide proof for your claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches".


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: carmiedisco12 on December 22, 2015, 09:21:14 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


I think it is a bit of a dig but nothing to get upset about the way you do. The view that these guys have not been allowed a chance to shine and have been essentially treated as 'hired hands' has some legitimacy. It's not a 'get out of here' idea. Therefore because it falls within the realms of plausibility who are you to tell off anyone (or get offended for god's sake) if someone uses the term?

If anything I think the term may be used with some sympathy for the guys that were hired and were unable to drag Axl to the recording studio or to add vocals to musical sketches etc.

Either way who cares. It's not blatantly aggressive so let others have a view.

Honestly wasn't upset, trying to gauge emotions from an internet post isn't very accurate .

It's annoying when some trolls parade out the same offensive idiocy and terminology day after day, it is tiring.

Please provide proof for your claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches".


I'm too lazy and disinterested to go searching for quotes etc and even then you would likely just dismiss them. But surely you recall Ashba stating he send multiple songs to Axl and what became of them? He left. Bumblefoot complaining for ages that nothing was being done musically and trying his little heart out to get the band to write and release music? The number of people involved with CD that stated getting Axl to complete things or put vocals down was traumatic? Slash and Duff stating that Axl often never showed and when he did he wouldn't sing?

This isn't 'proof' but considering the band has released 1 album in forever then I would strongly suggest the onus of proof is with those who claim Axl IS productive and not the other way round.

As Jarmo put is so well in another post (I paraphrase ' Sometimes the simplest answer is the accurate one and we don't need to construct complicated fabrications to avoid that reality'.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 09:25:17 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


I think it is a bit of a dig but nothing to get upset about the way you do. The view that these guys have not been allowed a chance to shine and have been essentially treated as 'hired hands' has some legitimacy. It's not a 'get out of here' idea. Therefore because it falls within the realms of plausibility who are you to tell off anyone (or get offended for god's sake) if someone uses the term?

If anything I think the term may be used with some sympathy for the guys that were hired and were unable to drag Axl to the recording studio or to add vocals to musical sketches etc.

Either way who cares. It's not blatantly aggressive so let others have a view.

Honestly wasn't upset, trying to gauge emotions from an internet post isn't very accurate .

It's annoying when some trolls parade out the same offensive idiocy and terminology day after day, it is tiring.

Please provide proof for your claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches".


I'm too lazy and disinterested to go searching for quotes etc and even then you would likely just dismiss them. But surely you recall Ashba stating he send multiple songs to Axl and what became of them? He left. Bumblefoot complaining for ages that nothing was being done musically and trying his little heart out to get the band to write and release music? The number of people involved with CD that stated getting Axl to complete things or put vocals down was traumatic? Slash and Duff stating that Axl often never showed and when he did he wouldn't sing?

This isn't 'proof' but considering the band has released 1 album in forever then I would strongly suggest the onus of proof is with those who claim Axl IS productive and not the other way round.

As Jarmo put is so well in another post (I paraphrase ' Sometimes the simplest answer is the accurate one and we don't need to construct complicated fabrications to avoid that reality'.

Where does it say as you claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches"?.

What if Bumblefoot was lying, or simply not in the loop? He certainly deceived fans about his status in the band for months.

I don't think not knowing what has been done is sufficient evidence to conclude that nothing is being done, or has been done.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: carmiedisco12 on December 22, 2015, 09:31:19 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


I think it is a bit of a dig but nothing to get upset about the way you do. The view that these guys have not been allowed a chance to shine and have been essentially treated as 'hired hands' has some legitimacy. It's not a 'get out of here' idea. Therefore because it falls within the realms of plausibility who are you to tell off anyone (or get offended for god's sake) if someone uses the term?

If anything I think the term may be used with some sympathy for the guys that were hired and were unable to drag Axl to the recording studio or to add vocals to musical sketches etc.

Either way who cares. It's not blatantly aggressive so let others have a view.

Honestly wasn't upset, trying to gauge emotions from an internet post isn't very accurate .

It's annoying when some trolls parade out the same offensive idiocy and terminology day after day, it is tiring.

Please provide proof for your claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches".


I'm too lazy and disinterested to go searching for quotes etc and even then you would likely just dismiss them. But surely you recall Ashba stating he send multiple songs to Axl and what became of them? He left. Bumblefoot complaining for ages that nothing was being done musically and trying his little heart out to get the band to write and release music? The number of people involved with CD that stated getting Axl to complete things or put vocals down was traumatic? Slash and Duff stating that Axl often never showed and when he did he wouldn't sing?

This isn't 'proof' but considering the band has released 1 album in forever then I would strongly suggest the onus of proof is with those who claim Axl IS productive and not the other way round.

As Jarmo put is so well in another post (I paraphrase ' Sometimes the simplest answer is the accurate one and we don't need to construct complicated fabrications to avoid that reality'.

Where does it say as you claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches"?.

What if Bumblefoot was lying, or simply not in the loop? He certainly deceived fans about his status in the band for months.

I don't think not knowing what has been done is sufficient evidence to conclude that nothing is being done, or has been done.


And just as I predicted when I show you what multiple band members have said (or are they lowered to 'Hired Hands' and 'liars' when they no longer back your preferred world view?). You dismiss it. Funny that calling these guys liars is fine but hired hands is so bad?

I can't be arsed debating this but as I said. The onus is on YOU to prove Axl is productive against ALL the circumstantial evidence and the observations made by multiple 'band members, producers over the years.

Go back and read the (paraphrased) quote from Jarmo.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 09:34:40 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


I think it is a bit of a dig but nothing to get upset about the way you do. The view that these guys have not been allowed a chance to shine and have been essentially treated as 'hired hands' has some legitimacy. It's not a 'get out of here' idea. Therefore because it falls within the realms of plausibility who are you to tell off anyone (or get offended for god's sake) if someone uses the term?

If anything I think the term may be used with some sympathy for the guys that were hired and were unable to drag Axl to the recording studio or to add vocals to musical sketches etc.

Either way who cares. It's not blatantly aggressive so let others have a view.

Honestly wasn't upset, trying to gauge emotions from an internet post isn't very accurate .

It's annoying when some trolls parade out the same offensive idiocy and terminology day after day, it is tiring.

Please provide proof for your claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches".


I'm too lazy and disinterested to go searching for quotes etc and even then you would likely just dismiss them. But surely you recall Ashba stating he send multiple songs to Axl and what became of them? He left. Bumblefoot complaining for ages that nothing was being done musically and trying his little heart out to get the band to write and release music? The number of people involved with CD that stated getting Axl to complete things or put vocals down was traumatic? Slash and Duff stating that Axl often never showed and when he did he wouldn't sing?

This isn't 'proof' but considering the band has released 1 album in forever then I would strongly suggest the onus of proof is with those who claim Axl IS productive and not the other way round.

As Jarmo put is so well in another post (I paraphrase ' Sometimes the simplest answer is the accurate one and we don't need to construct complicated fabrications to avoid that reality'.

Where does it say as you claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches"?.

What if Bumblefoot was lying, or simply not in the loop? He certainly deceived fans about his status in the band for months.

I don't think not knowing what has been done is sufficient evidence to conclude that nothing is being done, or has been done.


And just as I predicted when I show you what multiple band members have said (or are they lowered to 'Hired Hands' and 'liars' when they no longer back your preferred world view?). You dismiss it. Funny that calling these guys liars is fine but hired hands is so bad?

I can't be arsed debating this but as I said. The onus is on YOU to prove Axl is productive against ALL the circumstantial evidence and the observations made by multiple 'band members, producers over the years.

Go back and read the (paraphrased) quote from Jarmo.

Is it so hard to believe they might not be in the loop?

I said Ron deceived fans by not defining his status, but at no time did I call him a "hired hand".

Read this quote again-

I don't think not knowing what has been done is sufficient evidence to conclude that nothing has been done.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 09:46:14 PM
I don't think the band members meet the dictionary definition of hired hand. However they certainly meet the colloquial definition. The members of the band:

- Do not have any meaningful input of when an album gets released (see numerous complaints from band members on not being able to write or release music)
- Have no legal rights to the name
- Many of them were clearly hired to either act as session muso's in the case of Bumblefoot and perhaps  with Ashba seemingly hired with the sole intention as backing musicians to perform live

etc, etc, etc.

We can all disagree but whether you view them as legitimate band members with ownership within the creative input and output or whether you view them as hired musicians there to meet the need of an employer is open for debate. It is subjective and unprovable. Therefore to be offended about a term like this on a forum is just bizarre IMO.

Emily deliberately gets bogged down in semantics over crap like hired hands, or original band etc purely as a method of distracting discussion away from reality. It really lowers the tone of discussion on here.

You cannot deny that when known trolls use the term "hired hands" they are making a cheap shot at GNR's expense.

It isn't innocent, it is contrived and intentional.

I'm aware of the actual history, I realize it ruffles the tail feathers of people that don't like the fact that Slash, Duff, and Steven were not original members, but that doesn't change history one iota.


I think it is a bit of a dig but nothing to get upset about the way you do. The view that these guys have not been allowed a chance to shine and have been essentially treated as 'hired hands' has some legitimacy. It's not a 'get out of here' idea. Therefore because it falls within the realms of plausibility who are you to tell off anyone (or get offended for god's sake) if someone uses the term?

If anything I think the term may be used with some sympathy for the guys that were hired and were unable to drag Axl to the recording studio or to add vocals to musical sketches etc.

Either way who cares. It's not blatantly aggressive so let others have a view.

Honestly wasn't upset, trying to gauge emotions from an internet post isn't very accurate .

It's annoying when some trolls parade out the same offensive idiocy and terminology day after day, it is tiring.

Please provide proof for your claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches".


I'm too lazy and disinterested to go searching for quotes etc and even then you would likely just dismiss them. But surely you recall Ashba stating he send multiple songs to Axl and what became of them? He left. Bumblefoot complaining for ages that nothing was being done musically and trying his little heart out to get the band to write and release music? The number of people involved with CD that stated getting Axl to complete things or put vocals down was traumatic? Slash and Duff stating that Axl often never showed and when he did he wouldn't sing?

This isn't 'proof' but considering the band has released 1 album in forever then I would strongly suggest the onus of proof is with those who claim Axl IS productive and not the other way round.

As Jarmo put is so well in another post (I paraphrase ' Sometimes the simplest answer is the accurate one and we don't need to construct complicated fabrications to avoid that reality'.

Where does it say as you claim that "guys were unable to drag Axl to the studio or add vocals to musical sketches"?.

What if Bumblefoot was lying, or simply not in the loop? He certainly deceived fans about his status in the band for months.

I don't think not knowing what has been done is sufficient evidence to conclude that nothing is being done, or has been done.


And just as I predicted when I show you what multiple band members have said (or are they lowered to 'Hired Hands' and 'liars' when they no longer back your preferred world view?). You dismiss it. Funny that calling these guys liars is fine but hired hands is so bad?

I can't be arsed debating this but as I said. The onus is on YOU to prove Axl is productive against ALL the circumstantial evidence and the observations made by multiple 'band members, producers over the years.

Go back and read the (paraphrased) quote from Jarmo.

This.

She picks and chooses what side she wants to be on, whenever it suits.

I think she just likes the arguments to be honest mate.



Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: GypsySoul on December 22, 2015, 09:49:41 PM
Not trying to play mod here but could you all please STOP quoting the entire conversation.

It's totally unnecessary.

Thanks.  :)

Edited to add my 2 cents:
As a GNR fan, I personally don't find the term "hired-hand" offensive.  IMO it's similar to Nu-GNR or hired guns.

To argue over it is IMO as silly as arguing over if "original line-up" is Tracii or AFD.




Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 09:55:37 PM

I can't be arsed debating this but as

This.

She picks and chooses what side she wants to be on, whenever it suits.

I think she just likes the arguments to be honest mate.



No, I am consistently on GNR's side if you haven't noticed yet.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 10:01:44 PM
Not trying to play mod here but could you all please STOP quoting the entire conversation.

It's totally unnecessary.

Thanks.  :)

Edited to add my 2 cents:
As a GNR fan, I personally don't find the term "hired-hand" offensive.  IMO it's similar to Nu-GNR or hired guns.

To argue over it is IMO as silly as arguing over if "original line-up" is Tracii or AFD.




Exactly. but you are about to kick off a whole new argument with her if you use references like NU-GNR etc  :hihi:



Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: OscarAxl22 on December 22, 2015, 10:02:57 PM

I can't be arsed debating this but as

This.

She picks and chooses what side she wants to be on, whenever it suits.

I think she just likes the arguments to be honest mate.



No, I am consistently on GNR's side if you haven't noticed yet.

Listen, to state some of your opinions and obsessions on here are slightly creepy, or whacky would be an understatement.

You caused 2 pages of rubbish on here which looks to have been deleted, try not repeating it and sticking to the topic.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 10:05:18 PM
Not trying to play mod here but could you all please STOP quoting the entire conversation.

It's totally unnecessary.

Thanks.  :)

Edited to add my 2 cents:
As a GNR fan, I personally don't find the term "hired-hand" offensive.  IMO it's similar to Nu-GNR or hired guns.

To argue over it is IMO as silly as arguing over if "original line-up" is Tracii or AFD.




My .02 is as I stated previously - a certain contingent trots out some terms continually to get their petty little digs in- I have found some utilize both "hired hands" and "NuGNR" in a less than complimentary manner IMO.

There is NO argument as far as actual GNR history goes , it doesn't change even if some would rather ignore it.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Sosso on December 22, 2015, 10:19:47 PM
It doesn't have to be CD II, III, or X! It can just be a Guns N Roses album for God's sake! :confused:

CD II would be a guns n roses album, with or without Slash.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: GypsySoul on December 22, 2015, 10:24:56 PM
The line-up I would like to see for 2016 is:

Axl
Dizzy
Chris
Frank
Tommy
Richard
Brian May
Derek Trucks


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on December 22, 2015, 10:26:26 PM
The line-up I would like to see for 2016 is:

Axl
Dizzy
Chris
Frank
Tommy
Richard
Brian May
Derek Trucks


I'm a huge Derek Trucks fan!  :beer:

Brian May is no slouch either.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: sky dog on December 22, 2015, 10:32:36 PM
Trucks is a monster....better player than Slash....not really fit for Guns but he is a badass.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: GypsySoul on December 22, 2015, 10:38:04 PM
....not really fit for Guns but he is a badass.

Same could have been said about every guitarist who was actually in GNR after the AFD line-up.  :hihi:
 


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Hustlers Revenge on December 22, 2015, 11:07:58 PM
The line-up I would like to see for 2016 is:

Axl
Dizzy
Chris
Frank
Tommy
Richard
Brian May
Derek Trucks


now that's something! i wanna play too!

axl
dizzy
pitman
frank
duff
fortus

helios creed and
poison ivy

OR

axl
dizzy
pitman
brain
tommy
fortus

ry cooder and
tetuzi akiyama

remember: you read it here FIRST!


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: COMAMOTIVE on December 23, 2015, 03:14:52 AM
Assuming a Slash/Duff lineup - wonder what likelihood of them toying around with a VR song while on stage with Axl ???


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Princess Leia on December 23, 2015, 05:11:34 AM
Assuming a Slash/Duff lineup - wonder what likelihood of them toying around with a VR song while on stage with Axl ???

If Slash and Duff do something VR related it is not gonna be on stage with Axl. They will just follow the same path we?ve seen before with other artists. Meaning unheard VR songs, some DVD and other stuff will be released as some special edition box set.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 23, 2015, 10:57:04 AM
I would think there is an equal amount of longshot Axl would have some overwhelming desire to play a VR tune as there is Slash and Duff with CD tunes.

I think if you are willing to believe one, you sort of have to believe the other.  I know the argument will probably be made that CD tunes are "Guns N' Roses songs", but not to Slash and Duff, they aren't.

Performance of any of those tunes, VR or CD, basically comes down to the same premise.  One of the parties from the other side taking an interest and wanting to give it a try.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Virolec on December 23, 2015, 11:39:35 AM
Even if Axl wouldn't have a burning desire to sing Fall to Pieces (say), or Slash and Duff wouldn't want to do Chinese Democracy more than anything else in the world, I can imagine that doing so, even if only once or twice would show goodwill, and be a public sign that bridges had been mended.  As when ex-members have come on for a song or two at shows here and there, it would be a nice gesture to show that things are cool.  It need not be more than that.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: D-GenerationX on December 23, 2015, 12:42:28 PM

Even if Axl wouldn't have a burning desire to sing Fall to Pieces (say), or Slash and Duff wouldn't want to do Chinese Democracy more than anything else in the world, I can imagine that doing so, even if only once or twice would show goodwill, and be a public sign that bridges had been mended.  As when ex-members have come on for a song or two at shows here and there, it would be a nice gesture to show that things are cool.  It need not be more than that.


I agree.  It could be a good thing.

But I think its a delicate situation that needs to be handled a certain way.

For instance, the goodwill it might seem to show should happen naturally, and in a certain direction.  Like, say, Slash tells Axl that he heard 'This I Love' and found iot interesting.  Why not give it a try?  That is genuine.

Axl handing him the music to 'This I Love' and tell him he needs to learn it?  Not as positive, in my view.  That's the sort of stuff that might cock this whole thing up.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on January 07, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Based In Rumors, Fonts NOT-OFICIAL And Members Actually + Old + New, What's your favorite line up ?

1 -> AXL, SLASH, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

2 -> AXL, ROBIN, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

3 -> AXL, TOMMY, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)


(http://i62.tinypic.com/dg6ihh.png)

Vote, Only 3 Options, Cheers !!

 :smoking:


The Winner Is --> Option 1 !!!

 :smoking:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: C0ma on January 07, 2016, 10:10:38 PM
Based In Rumors, Fonts NOT-OFICIAL And Members Actually + Old + New, What's your favorite line up ?

1 -> AXL, SLASH, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

2 -> AXL, ROBIN, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

3 -> AXL, TOMMY, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)


(http://i62.tinypic.com/dg6ihh.png)

Vote, Only 3 Options, Cheers !!

 :smoking:


The Winner Is --> Option 1 !!!

 :smoking:

Almost option 1... we don't know there is a third guitar for sure yet.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on January 07, 2016, 10:36:19 PM
Based In Rumors, Fonts NOT-OFICIAL And Members Actually + Old + New, What's your favorite line up ?

1 -> AXL, SLASH, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

2 -> AXL, ROBIN, DUFF, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)

3 -> AXL, TOMMY, FRANK, PITMAN, DIZZY, RICHARD + NewGuitar + NewGuitar (Your Opinion)


(http://i62.tinypic.com/dg6ihh.png)

Vote, Only 3 Options, Cheers !!

 :smoking:


The Winner Is --> Option 1 !!!

 :smoking:

Almost option 1... we don't know there is a third guitar for sure yet.


Maybe Surprise

 ;)


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: jazjme on January 07, 2016, 10:39:23 PM
Duff has already played quite a few CD songs, I hardly thnk that he would hold such issue to do so again.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on January 07, 2016, 10:41:40 PM
I will be happy with whichever lineup is chosen  : ok:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Billo on January 07, 2016, 10:41:55 PM
num 1  we have to have slash..thats what its all mostly about isent it.. Axl and Slash playing together   :beer: and id be happy with Gilby as the other guitarist.. I wouldent care whos there as long as Axl n Slash are on the same stage.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: C0ma on January 07, 2016, 10:48:39 PM
I will be happy with whichever lineup is chosen  : ok:

If option one isn't available then I agree, but everyone must have a preference of some kind and mine would be option one by a mile... actually make that a marathon.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on January 07, 2016, 11:00:40 PM
This Festival Is:

- Rock
- Indie Rock
- Rap & HipHop
- Electronic Music
- Alternative Techno
- Much Style Music Mixing


Special Guest --> Buckethead Is Good Option.

 :smoking:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: DarkFairy on January 07, 2016, 11:29:15 PM
#1

No idea who for 3rd guitarist, if that's what Axl & co want.. Dave Navarro?  :hihi:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on January 07, 2016, 11:46:11 PM
#1

No idea who for 3rd guitarist, if that's what Axl & co want.. Dave Navarro?  :hihi:


Where's Is Dave ?
 
 :hihi:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Muerto on January 07, 2016, 11:56:02 PM
Just option 1 Mr. HBK  : ok:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Thorned Rose on January 09, 2016, 04:07:45 PM
lineup #1 of those 3

And I'm cool with them playing CD songs. I just don't want more than 4 for sure.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: norway on January 11, 2016, 02:58:46 PM

No idea who for 3rd guitarist

richard and slash will be good i think


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on January 13, 2016, 12:55:32 AM

No idea who for 3rd guitarist

richard and slash will be good i think


Is Good Duo

 : ok:


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: EmilyGNR on January 13, 2016, 03:12:21 AM
I will be happy with whichever lineup is chosen  : ok:

If option one isn't available then I agree, but everyone must have a preference of some kind and mine would be option one by a mile... actually make that a marathon.

No preference at all, and no favorite lineup- I liked them all.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: Tigerstedt on January 19, 2016, 04:31:55 AM
As long as we get well prepared and rehearsed Axl Rose along with Slash and Duff, the rest of the band is quite irrelevant to me. Fortus, Ferrer and Reed would be just fine.


Title: Re: What Is You LineUp Favorite For 2016 ?
Post by: HBK on January 20, 2016, 12:52:15 PM
I Want Third Guitar !!! I Want Burguer King !!!

 ;D