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Title: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: BGLN on October 12, 2015, 01:02:30 PM Mike Portnoy, Alex Skolnick, Dave Ellefson, and Mark Menghi did an interview where they talk about whether the original lineup will reunite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSfyRqi7mfw Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 12, 2015, 03:01:09 PM Mike Portnoy, Alex Skolnick, Dave Ellefson, and Mark Menghi did an interview where they talk about whether the original lineup will reunite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSfyRqi7mfw Isn't this simply a method for Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals to get some attention? Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Annie on October 12, 2015, 05:10:02 PM Mike Portnoy, Alex Skolnick, Dave Ellefson, and Mark Menghi did an interview where they talk about whether the original lineup will reunite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSfyRqi7mfw Isn't this simply a method for Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals to get some attention? Yes. Just like everybody else jumping on the reunion bandwagon speculation to promote themselves. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 12, 2015, 05:43:15 PM Mike Portnoy, Alex Skolnick, Dave Ellefson, and Mark Menghi did an interview where they talk about whether the original lineup will reunite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSfyRqi7mfw Isn't this simply a method for Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals to get some attention? Yes. Just like everybody else jumping on the reunion bandwagon speculation to promote themselves. Namedropping is an effective means of getting attention, unfortunately. I won't be surprised to see more people commenting on this to get media attention. :no: Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: troccoli on October 12, 2015, 07:06:56 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did.
Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 12, 2015, 08:08:37 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: CherryGarcia on October 12, 2015, 09:38:05 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) It really bothers you that people are interested in a reunion, it seems. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: troccoli on October 12, 2015, 09:40:35 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 12, 2015, 10:37:33 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? No- show me where I said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment or speculate on it. Did not happen, no such insinuation or statement was made at all. This is not a valid or accurate point of contention. I was simply giving my observations about this interview, If you have a different opinion so be it. I'm not honestly that invested in it, so whatever. I think a lot of namedropping and speculation about current hot topics is specifically geared to self-promotion and building a larger following, both by individuals and media organizations and outlets. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 12, 2015, 10:42:31 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) It really bothers you that people are interested in a reunion, it seems. Not really, why should it bother me? Just a simple offhand observation, it beats discussing hairlines :hihi: Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: troccoli on October 12, 2015, 11:20:25 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? No- show me where I said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment or speculate on it. Did not happen, no such insinuation or statement was made at all. This is not a valid or accurate point of contention. I was simply giving my observations about this interview, If you have a different opinion so be it. I'm not honestly that invested in it, so whatever. I think a lot of namedropping and speculation about current hot topics is specifically geared to self-promotion and building a larger following, both by individuals and media organizations and outlets. Well I never said that either of you said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment on it. But let me be clearer. Anyone famous/owning a business is not allowed to comment/speculate on the topic publicly without fear of being accused of having done so solely for the purpose of promoting themselves/building a larger following. Also you never did answer my question. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 13, 2015, 01:42:11 AM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? No- show me where I said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment or speculate on it. Did not happen, no such insinuation or statement was made at all. This is not a valid or accurate point of contention. I was simply giving my observations about this interview, If you have a different opinion so be it. I'm not honestly that invested in it, so whatever. I think a lot of namedropping and speculation about current hot topics is specifically geared to self-promotion and building a larger following, both by individuals and media organizations and outlets. Well I never said that either of you said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment on it. But let me be clearer. Anyone famous/owning a business is not allowed to comment/speculate on the topic publicly without fear of being accused of having done so solely for the purpose of promoting themselves/building a larger following. Also you never did answer my question. I can only speak for myself, and I know I did not say anywhere in any form that they weren't "allowed" to speculate or comment- you are clearly reading more into this than was stated, and making a leap in reasoning and deduction that others may or may not share. As for your question, I stated clearly it was just a casual observation, more along the lines of a general trend than a specific instance- did you miss that? There have been numerous people mentioning GNR and reunion rumors lately, I happen to think a lot of it is for attention and guaranteed media mentions, That is my POV- you may have another theory, and that would be your POV. Pretty simple really ;) Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Annie on October 13, 2015, 02:05:52 AM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? No- show me where I said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment or speculate on it. Did not happen, no such insinuation or statement was made at all. This is not a valid or accurate point of contention. I was simply giving my observations about this interview, If you have a different opinion so be it. I'm not honestly that invested in it, so whatever. I think a lot of namedropping and speculation about current hot topics is specifically geared to self-promotion and building a larger following, both by individuals and media organizations and outlets. Well I never said that either of you said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment on it. But let me be clearer. Anyone famous/owning a business is not allowed to comment/speculate on the topic publicly without fear of being accused of having done so solely for the purpose of promoting themselves/building a larger following. Also you never did answer my question. I can only speak for myself, and I know I did not say anywhere in any form that they weren't "allowed" to speculate or comment- you are clearly reading more into this than was stated, and making a leap in reasoning and deduction that others may or may not share. As for your question, I stated clearly it was just a casual observation, more along the lines of a general trend than a specific instance- did you miss that? There have been numerous people mentioning GNR and reunion rumors lately, I happen to think a lot of it is for attention and guaranteed media mentions, That is my POV- you may have another theory, and that would be your POV. Pretty simple really ;) What she said. Can't say it any better :) Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: jarmo on October 13, 2015, 08:19:15 AM Interview musicians, bring up a current hot topic from the world of music, get more attention.
It's nothing new. /jarmo Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: sandman on October 13, 2015, 08:43:22 AM the rationale for talking about this is simple...Axl and Slash getting back together would be HUGE!
that's tough for some people to accept. it's easy to accuse anyone of "name-dropping" and in many cases that is true. but there are more controversial things that could be said to get your name in the headlines. a perfect example was Cory Taylor's remarks. a lot of people criticized him for those comments. I can't stand that guy, but his comments are an example of the major buzz this would create and how huge a tour it would be. he hates Axl, but acknowledges how incredibly talented he is, and how amazing Axl and Slash are together. so much so that he jokes he would retire just to watch all of their shows. if he was truly just "name-dropping" he would not have praised Axl/Slash's live performances. he would have talked about it, taken some pathetic cheap shots at Axl, and left it at that. but he didn't. cause he can't. that's how powerful an Axl/Slash reunion would be. it would truly be one of the most significant developments in the music industry in years. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: JAEBALL on October 13, 2015, 08:48:04 AM the rationale for talking about this is simple...Axl and Slash getting back together would be HUGE! that's tough for some people to accept. it's easy to accuse anyone of "name-dropping" and in many cases that is true. but there are more controversial things that could be said to get your name in the headlines. a perfect example was Cory Taylor's remarks. a lot of people criticized him for those comments. I can't stand that guy, but his comments are an example of the major buzz this would create and how huge a tour it would be. he hates Axl, but acknowledges how incredibly talented he is, and how amazing Axl and Slash are together. so much so that he jokes he would retire just to watch all of their shows. if he was truly just "name-dropping" he would not have praised Axl/Slash's live performances. he would have talked about it, taken some pathetic cheap shots at Axl, and left it at that. but he didn't. cause he can't. that's how powerful an Axl/Slash reunion would be. it would truly be one of the most significant developments in the music industry in years. Correct. These guys are public figures.. people are going to discuss their comings and goings... Now we have a problem with a group of guys who talk about rock music discussing the possibility of a Guns N Roses reunion? And you know what... if they did it for the sole evil purpose of promoting themselves... then good for them ! it worked ! I never heard of them prior to this.. and now I know who they are. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Annie on October 13, 2015, 09:43:58 AM the rationale for talking about this is simple...Axl and Slash getting back together would be HUGE! that's tough for some people to accept. it's easy to accuse anyone of "name-dropping" and in many cases that is true. but there are more controversial things that could be said to get your name in the headlines. a perfect example was Cory Taylor's remarks. a lot of people criticized him for those comments. I can't stand that guy, but his comments are an example of the major buzz this would create and how huge a tour it would be. he hates Axl, but acknowledges how incredibly talented he is, and how amazing Axl and Slash are together. so much so that he jokes he would retire just to watch all of their shows. if he was truly just "name-dropping" he would not have praised Axl/Slash's live performances. he would have talked about it, taken some pathetic cheap shots at Axl, and left it at that. but he didn't. cause he can't. that's how powerful an Axl/Slash reunion would be. it would truly be one of the most significant developments in the music industry in years. Correct. These guys are public figures.. people are going to discuss their comings and goings... Now we have a problem with a group of guys who talk about rock music discussing the possibility of a Guns N Roses reunion? And you know what... if they did it for the sole evil purpose of promoting themselves... then good for them ! it worked ! I never heard of them prior to this.. and now I know who they are. Good for you. Your life is so much better now. Ofcourse people are going to talk about it. Hell The PICU medical director came up to me about a month ago because of something he had heard, and asked me if GNR was getting back together. I said. I don't know. He said it would be really exciting if they did. Nothing wrong with discussions. The media just hypes it up so much that they may just destroy any chances of it actually happening. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 13, 2015, 09:49:20 AM it's easy to accuse anyone of "name-dropping" and in many cases that is true. but there are more controversial things that could be said to get your name in the headlines. This ^ If they really wanted to name drop for for the sake of it, they could have discussed hundreds of other public figures that are much more prominently in the headlines today. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Annie on October 13, 2015, 09:54:24 AM it's easy to accuse anyone of "name-dropping" and in many cases that is true. but there are more controversial things that could be said to get your name in the headlines. This ^ If they really wanted to name drop for for the sake of it, they could have discussed hundreds of other public figures that are much more prominently in the headlines today. In their world and their line of work GNR is the biggest name to drop at this time. Don't think talking about Hilary Clinton would have done anything for them now would it? Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Ow-So7411501 on October 13, 2015, 11:17:52 AM Apparently name dropping said "Hot Topic" isn't lighting up the internet. I've only seen this podcast or interview referenced on GNR boards. So if they were trying (which I doubt) to get attention by mentioning the "Hot topic" they failed miserably.
Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: JAEBALL on October 13, 2015, 11:25:58 AM This is really a non issue.
Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 13, 2015, 12:30:32 PM it's easy to accuse anyone of "name-dropping" and in many cases that is true. but there are more controversial things that could be said to get your name in the headlines. This ^ If they really wanted to name drop for for the sake of it, they could have discussed hundreds of other public figures that are much more prominently in the headlines today. In their world and their line of work GNR is the biggest name to drop at this time. Don't think talking about Hilary Clinton would have done anything for them now would it? Perhaps, but neither is talking about GN'R, except for a few message board geeks like us. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: jarmo on October 13, 2015, 12:54:23 PM So wait, GN'R, did I just name drop GN'R to get attention?
:-[ Oops. /jarmo Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: FunkyMonkey on October 13, 2015, 01:26:10 PM In their world and their line of work GNR is the biggest name to drop at this time. Don't think talking about Hilary Clinton would have done anything for them now would it? LAMB OF GOD's RANDY BLYTHE Blasts DONALD TRUMP: 'F**k That Dude!' 359 Comments http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/lamb-of-gods-randy-blythe-blasts-donald-trump-fk-that-dude/ SLIPKNOT's COREY TAYLOR Is 'Terrified' Of DONALD TRUMP Presidency 220 Comments http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slipknots-corey-taylor-is-terrified-of-donald-trump-presidency/ DEF LEPPARD's VIVIAN CAMPBELL Doesn't Want To Be Associated With 'Clown' DONALD TRUMP 169 Comments http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/def-leppards-vivian-campbell-doesnt-want-to-be-associated-with-clown-donald-trump/ Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Annie on October 13, 2015, 02:01:41 PM So wait, GN'R, did I just name drop GN'R to get attention? :-[ Oops. /jarmo Touch?! Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Annie on October 13, 2015, 02:02:07 PM In their world and their line of work GNR is the biggest name to drop at this time. Don't think talking about Hilary Clinton would have done anything for them now would it? LAMB OF GOD's RANDY BLYTHE Blasts DONALD TRUMP: 'F**k That Dude!' 359 Comments http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/lamb-of-gods-randy-blythe-blasts-donald-trump-fk-that-dude/ SLIPKNOT's COREY TAYLOR Is 'Terrified' Of DONALD TRUMP Presidency 220 Comments http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slipknots-corey-taylor-is-terrified-of-donald-trump-presidency/ DEF LEPPARD's VIVIAN CAMPBELL Doesn't Want To Be Associated With 'Clown' DONALD TRUMP 169 Comments http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/def-leppards-vivian-campbell-doesnt-want-to-be-associated-with-clown-donald-trump/ Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 13, 2015, 02:06:34 PM So wait, GN'R, did I just name drop GN'R to get attention? :-[ Oops. /jarmo So you started a GN'R website to get their attention with the ultimate goal of touring with them, right? ;D Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: Ginger King on October 13, 2015, 02:21:32 PM So wait, GN'R, did I just name drop GN'R to get attention? :-[ Oops. /jarmo So you started a GN'R website to get their attention with the ultimate goal of touring with them, right? ;D Yeah, good luck with that... Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: jarmo on October 13, 2015, 02:28:59 PM So you started a GN'R website to get their attention with the ultimate goal of touring with them, right? ;D I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's what some self-proclaimed experts think happened. /jarmo Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on October 13, 2015, 02:42:17 PM So you started a GN'R website to get their attention with the ultimate goal of touring with them, right? ;D I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's what some self-proclaimed experts think happened. /jarmo I hope you took my comment in the right spirit. I have much respect for you with a side of envy. But you put the time and effort into this site, and good things happen to those who work hard. Would love to hear the story one day of the events that led to you being pulled into the circle of trust. You could write a book about this shit! Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: jarmo on October 13, 2015, 02:46:21 PM No worries. :)
/jarmo Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 13, 2015, 03:28:09 PM Interview musicians, bring up a current hot topic from the world of music, get more attention. It's nothing new. /jarmo I agree completely, nothing new at all. Obvious attention ploy. :) Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: troccoli on October 14, 2015, 12:19:04 AM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? No- show me where I said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment or speculate on it. Did not happen, no such insinuation or statement was made at all. This is not a valid or accurate point of contention. I was simply giving my observations about this interview, If you have a different opinion so be it. I'm not honestly that invested in it, so whatever. I think a lot of namedropping and speculation about current hot topics is specifically geared to self-promotion and building a larger following, both by individuals and media organizations and outlets. Well I never said that either of you said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment on it. But let me be clearer. Anyone famous/owning a business is not allowed to comment/speculate on the topic publicly without fear of being accused of having done so solely for the purpose of promoting themselves/building a larger following. Also you never did answer my question. I can only speak for myself, and I know I did not say anywhere in any form that they weren't "allowed" to speculate or comment- you are clearly reading more into this than was stated, and making a leap in reasoning and deduction that others may or may not share. As for your question, I stated clearly it was just a casual observation, more along the lines of a general trend than a specific instance- did you miss that? There have been numerous people mentioning GNR and reunion rumors lately, I happen to think a lot of it is for attention and guaranteed media mentions, That is my POV- you may have another theory, and that would be your POV. Pretty simple really ;) OK fair enough. And I like how you say it's simple really. Let me make it simple then. You say you were speaking more along the lines of a general trend. And I agree that your 2nd post in this thread supports that. I still don't know why you chose to attack "Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals" in your 1st post of this thread. I think we both agree that there are some celebrities/musicians/journalists/organizations that bring this topic up for the sole purpose of gaining attention. And it's entirely possible that the organization that conducted the interview and posted the video, Louder Noise, is one of them. All I want to know is why "Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals" didn't get the benefit of the doubt in this case. Interview musicians, bring up a current hot topic from the world of music, get more attention. It's nothing new. /jarmo Agree. But 2 posters here blamed the musicians being interviewed instead of the organization that conducted the interview and posted the video. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: EmilyGNR on October 14, 2015, 05:02:49 AM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? No- show me where I said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment or speculate on it. Did not happen, no such insinuation or statement was made at all. This is not a valid or accurate point of contention. I was simply giving my observations about this interview, If you have a different opinion so be it. I'm not honestly that invested in it, so whatever. I think a lot of namedropping and speculation about current hot topics is specifically geared to self-promotion and building a larger following, both by individuals and media organizations and outlets. Well I never said that either of you said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment on it. But let me be clearer. Anyone famous/owning a business is not allowed to comment/speculate on the topic publicly without fear of being accused of having done so solely for the purpose of promoting themselves/building a larger following. Also you never did answer my question. I can only speak for myself, and I know I did not say anywhere in any form that they weren't "allowed" to speculate or comment- you are clearly reading more into this than was stated, and making a leap in reasoning and deduction that others may or may not share. As for your question, I stated clearly it was just a casual observation, more along the lines of a general trend than a specific instance- did you miss that? There have been numerous people mentioning GNR and reunion rumors lately, I happen to think a lot of it is for attention and guaranteed media mentions, That is my POV- you may have another theory, and that would be your POV. Pretty simple really ;) OK fair enough. And I like how you say it's simple really. Let me make it simple then. You say you were speaking more along the lines of a general trend. And I agree that your 2nd post in this thread supports that. I still don't know why you chose to attack "Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals" in your 1st post of this thread. I think we both agree that there are some celebrities/musicians/journalists/organizations that bring this topic up for the sole purpose of gaining attention. And it's entirely possible that the organization that conducted the interview and posted the video, Louder Noise, is one of them. All I want to know is why "Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals" didn't get the benefit of the doubt in this case. Interview musicians, bring up a current hot topic from the world of music, get more attention. It's nothing new. /jarmo Agree. But 2 posters here blamed the musicians being interviewed instead of the organization that conducted the interview and posted the video. Much ado about nothing- I recognized Portnoy from his former gig, it isn't some big insiduous and malicious conspiracy, was a simple casual observance about an all-too-common occurance. ::) Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: troccoli on October 14, 2015, 10:25:14 PM Not trying to start shit here but it seems to be like they were asked about it in an interview. They are allowed to comment on it/speculate about it just like the rest of us. Also, they did not post the interview on youtube. The organization that did the interview did. I took that into consideration, but also considered the possible angle that the organization was looking for a bit of attention and media coverage as well. Nobody remarked that they were not allowed to comment or speculate on it- straw man argument. Seems like everyone is jumping on the speculation train, for whatever reason or rationale. :) But by accusing the band of commenting on the reunion in order to promote themselves, you and Sweet Child are in fact remarking that they are not allowed to comment or speculate on it. To me it sounds like if any celebrity or owner of a business comments/speculates on this topic then they are promoting themselves. I agree that sometimes that is the case. Just not this time. Also, if you took into consideration the scenario I mentioned, what made you decide to go ahead and make the accusation anyway? No- show me where I said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment or speculate on it. Did not happen, no such insinuation or statement was made at all. This is not a valid or accurate point of contention. I was simply giving my observations about this interview, If you have a different opinion so be it. I'm not honestly that invested in it, so whatever. I think a lot of namedropping and speculation about current hot topics is specifically geared to self-promotion and building a larger following, both by individuals and media organizations and outlets. Well I never said that either of you said specifically that they are not "allowed" to comment on it. But let me be clearer. Anyone famous/owning a business is not allowed to comment/speculate on the topic publicly without fear of being accused of having done so solely for the purpose of promoting themselves/building a larger following. Also you never did answer my question. I can only speak for myself, and I know I did not say anywhere in any form that they weren't "allowed" to speculate or comment- you are clearly reading more into this than was stated, and making a leap in reasoning and deduction that others may or may not share. As for your question, I stated clearly it was just a casual observation, more along the lines of a general trend than a specific instance- did you miss that? There have been numerous people mentioning GNR and reunion rumors lately, I happen to think a lot of it is for attention and guaranteed media mentions, That is my POV- you may have another theory, and that would be your POV. Pretty simple really ;) OK fair enough. And I like how you say it's simple really. Let me make it simple then. You say you were speaking more along the lines of a general trend. And I agree that your 2nd post in this thread supports that. I still don't know why you chose to attack "Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals" in your 1st post of this thread. I think we both agree that there are some celebrities/musicians/journalists/organizations that bring this topic up for the sole purpose of gaining attention. And it's entirely possible that the organization that conducted the interview and posted the video, Louder Noise, is one of them. All I want to know is why "Dream Theater's former drummer and his pals" didn't get the benefit of the doubt in this case. Interview musicians, bring up a current hot topic from the world of music, get more attention. It's nothing new. /jarmo Agree. But 2 posters here blamed the musicians being interviewed instead of the organization that conducted the interview and posted the video. Much ado about nothing- I recognized Portnoy from his former gig, it isn't some big insiduous and malicious conspiracy, was a simple casual observance about an all-too-common occurance. ::) I see. All apologies. Title: Re: Metal Allegiance discuss GN'R reunion possibility Post by: GNR4LIFEJD on October 15, 2015, 10:34:33 AM I have much respect for mike portnoy as i loved him in dream theater a top five fav band of mine and miss him in them. A GNR reunion is im sure in the rock world a big topic. I honestly don't think its that big of an attention getter for them people like Portnoy, Ellefson from megadeth have been in the industry a very long time and im sure have heard rumblings themselves about what could be happening. Honestly i don't mind hearing what other rock musicians feelings are on a reunion.
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