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In a new interview when asked if he has any songs yet for his new album to be released next year.

Sebastian Bach MTRBWY Australian interview 2015

Sep 18, 2015

There are two songs I have heard that I want to sing. One was written by DJ Ashba. He played it for me back in 2010 when we were on tour with Guns N' Roses. He goes, listen to this, I'll never forget it, he put it on my head. He wrote it for Axl, to be in Guns.  It's the most bad ass fucking riff. One of the coolest songs I've ever heard. I haven't heard it since then, but I never forgot how much I loved it.

And he's not in Guns N' Roses anymore...but I don't know if I can even have that...DJ I've got to call you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMtFd6Zps0

if it's GNR property we can imagine they'll find a way with Axl...

it would be interesting to see what kind of material was rejected

Great, I don't like SIXX AM, I don't like DJ, I don't like Skid Row, and I don't like Sebastian Bach. Awesome.....keep Gnr as far away as possible! : ok:

Yeah, especially when he says this "It's the most bad ass fucking riff. One of the coolest songs I've ever heard."

To Bach, everything is the coolest thing on earth. Really shouldnt be taken seriously

I'd be interested to hear it.

Very true.  He's an excitable guy, and good luck to him. 

The headline is misleading I don't see where he plans to record a song. It suggests that he wants to.

I agree, misleading headline- very clickbait worthy.

I clicked this topic.....


/jarmo

LOL, so did I

Baz just has a huge enthusiasm for life and rock music. Really wish I could have seen him perform on Broadway.

He really gave it 110% when he opened for GNR back in 2006.  Played for over an hour if I remember.  I loved it and the My Michele with Axl works great too.

I totally agree.

I loved him in Gilmore Girls.

DJ ASHBA's resignation was polite and positive, and diplomatic.

But I can't help but think it had to come with a few letdowns, he wanted to write Guns N Roses music. And I was excited for that, and it seemed he was excited for that too.
I wonder what happened between that excitement ha had and now.

I disagree. I think his departure was contrived and self serving.

Not to get too off topic, but I did see him on Broadway in Jeckyll and Hyde.  It was awesome!

You are so lucky!! So happy for you.  Would have loved to have seen that! And him in Jesus Christ Superstar!

care to elaborate on that ?

Yes. Everybody knows that Axl Rose is a very private person.  If DJ wanted to leave GNR in a respectful way he would have done it quietly.  That letter he wrote was something a teenage girl would write to secure her vote for homecoming queen. He used Axl's name and the GNR name to garner attention for himself  Hell Rollingstone and a lot of major magazines picked up on it. It was nice on the surface but it was a very insensitive and calculated move on his part

I completely disagree. He got out in front of what was quickly becoming an issue. Nikki and DJ announced the plan for Sixx AM and immediately his status in GnR was being mentioned and questioned. This is his livelihood, if Axl wants to hide in the shadows, so be it... but DJ doesn't have to suffer for it.

If you look at comments made by Dizzy as an example regarding HOF ticket prices and his 'Go Fund Me' set up for his daughters schooling, it is fairly obvious that during downtime, these guys (minus Axl) aren't exactly rolling in cash. DJ is now doing what he wants: writing music, releasing new material, and performing regularly.

I get that at the end of the day this band is much like a Chinese Democracy, but there is no reason for a member that isn't in the band and has an active social media presence to hide from his status if he is out.

He could have made a simple statement. That over the top handwritten letter was so staged. And in my mind, insincere.

Nah, I disagree. He's a cool guy who means well even if it doesn't always come out the correct way. Of course I could be wrong but I just don't see a calculating bitch in him.

He's written stuff he wants the world to listen to and is frustrated that it's not happening. I want to hear this and if it's not possible with Axl why not ask someone else then.

I was a huge DJ Ashba fan until he wrote that letter. I even attended a Sixx Am concert and made eye contact with him from the balcony. He was lit up like a Christmas tree. He loved being on the stage. I even liked a few of their songs. It's just after years of being a critical care nurse working with people from all races and socioeconomic classes. I am a pretty good judge of character.  You also learn to read people when you ride the CTA on a regular basis.  I think he was heavily influenced by N6 to make a grandiose exit to garner publicity for Sixx Am .

I'm a firm science believer and don't believe in stupid conspiracies or false information.

Now that you say why you think that was the case it makes me think that doesn't sound too far-fetched. We just don't know the truth and he will never admit if he was influenced or not. Or maybe in a book thirty years later but not now.

I don't personally know Axl or DJ. But from the outside looking in, it seemed like they were friends as well as band mates.  If DJ truly cared about Axl's feelings as a friend, he would have written a simple and polite departure statement.  Not put on a big narcissistic show .

I'm no fan of DJ...but you're clutching...  :-\

We can agree to disagree.  But I stand by my belief that his letter was a calculated move to promote himself and Sixx Am .

We surely were or are under the impression that they are really good mates outside work as well. If this was a calculated move they've never really been friends and something weird went down and had been going on earlier as well.

well everything public is a calculate move anyway.
he had to clarify, he used the best way to do it and promote his futures projects, no big deal.

you can't blame Ron to not clarify a situation and at the same time blaming DJ to do it.

different personalities, different ways to deal with a departure, but nothing wrong with that.

Yes but when a person offered you the chance of a lifetime you could show a little more respect if you choose to go your separate ways. There was a line in the old movie Steel Magnolias that I love.  I'd rather have a few moments of wonderful then a whole lifetime of just so/so.  Sixx Am will never reach the level of success as GNR. N6 says he has a quest for world domination.  Sixx Am has a few good songs but they pale in comparison to the greatness that is GNR!

And I am sure that was quite devastating for a generous person like Axl who trusted this person

Devastating? Trusted? What did DJ do to Axl here... He has fans that follow him on Twitter and Facebook he updated them on his status in the same level of detail that he shares many of his personal and professional items. It is completely asinine to think that former members of your band are going to no comment everything to do with your band to death. He didn't bad mouth Axl, the band, or the management in any way. He simply stated that an opportunity presented itself that gives the ability to focus his creativity in different ways and that he had to explore it fully, he thanked Axl for the opportunity he was given over the past several years.

You have shared your displeasure in his tactics here, what (in detail) do you think he should have done?

*Edit* ALSO... Of course it was self serving to release a letter stating that he was out of Guns N' Roses and to shift attention to his new primary project Sixx AM. I know several people like to ignore this fact... This is a business, they make money doing this. You can't be in Sixx AM or Guns N Roses and also be a doctor or a lawyer and give your clients/patients  the attention they deserve while giving your band the attention it needs to be successful. It is very easy for Axl to stick to his 'guns' and work at his own pace to create his 'art' while he sits on a pile of money flowing in from the success of the original/classic line up and their albums.

I agree with Lord Stan that there were things going on behind the scenes that none of us are aware of. I just think he could have released a simple statement.  I don't care what anybody says.  That over the top letter was an attention seeking move to garner publicity. The way N6 immediately tweeted his approval also speaks volumes. The fact that he publically gushed on and on about Axl being a hero was insincere. The power of Axl's name gave notice to his "new" project  if his new project is so great . Let it speak for itself

I fail to see why an attention seeking move to garner publicity is such a bad thing. As someone else said, its also business, he had to inform fans he wasnt no longer working with the GNR project, so they can find him at the Sixx Am project. Its rather simple. Maybe what you don't like is him talking too nicely about Axl, but those kind of gestures are always awkward. It's like ending a relationship with a girlfriend saying I love you but I can't be with you. Its true, but its awkward, and can also be seen as insincere, even though the motive probably isn't. Its never pretty.

Some people criticized Ron for not saying anything and now that DJ says something some people don't like it either? You can't please everyone.

Because Axl Rose is a very private person and like I said as an outsider looking in he and Axl  seemed. Like they were friends as well as business associates.  Putting out an insincere publicity seeking self serving statement is in my mind one of the ultimate betrayals of a friendship.  But we can agree to disagree. Most people will sell their souls for celebrity.  DJ Ashba has proven to me to be one of those souls.

These guys who play with Axl over the years... they really can't win...

No matter what... they all get bashed...

I appreciate the fact that he made it clear , unlike Ron and Tommy who just hinted at what we all believe anyway.

These guys don't owe the world to Axl Rose for all eternity. if he wants to tell his fanbase he moved on, he has every right.

I am not disputing that.  It's just he could have shown more respect to his friendship with Axl by being more discrete. I have known extreme betrayal from coworkers who I thought were friends.  It is very hard to work in an environment where you hold people's lives in your hands when you don't know who has your back. So when I see somebody betray an artist whose work has had a great impact on my life,it upsets me.  But we can agree to disagree

Well do you know that DJ did not get Axl's blessing to put that out there?

Unless you know for fact that he showed Axl, Axl asked him not to write it... and he still did ..

Then there is no betrayal here.

It does not take a rocket scientist or a brain surgeon to know that he did not have Axl's blessing to put out that letter .truth!

Well again.. you don't know that.. but either way..

Like you said... agree to disagree. Can't please everybody.

I can say with almost total certainty that if he had any respect for his friendship with Axl he would not have put out such a narcissist self serving public declaration that he knew would be read by millions of people around the world . I sincerely doubt a private person like Axl appreciated thAt public spectacle !

You can't say that at all with total certainty, because absolutely nothing regarding DJ has come from the band... they quickly addressed Ron after the DJ announcement, but I have a feeling that if this was such a sour point for Axl we would have gotten something like the 2003 or 2004 Axl email about Bucket.

I also would pump the brakes a bit on 2 things:

1. Millions of people did not read that hand written note, millions of people don't even know who DJ is... and please don't find some video of him playing Sweet Child O Mine on you tube with 3 million views... That is 'some guy' playing guitar in a Guns N' Roses video to the vast majority of people who found it searching for Guns N' Roses.

2. Quit it with the 'sell your soul for fame' crap... this is a business, DJ is past the point of his life where he needs to be eating Spaghetti O's in his crack house apartment, he deserves the right to actually feed himself and his wife and live comfortably. Again look at the comments and actions of Dizzy in the recent past... HOF tickets are too expensive for the keyboard player of Guns N' Roses? He needed to crowd source the payment of his daughters college? If you believe the numbers you read in places like Chinese Whispers, these guys were not paid piles of money... I make more money than some of them according to those documents. A little self serving and self promotion goes along way... They aren't all Axl Rose living off of historic back catalog money and what must be his much larger chunk of touring money as the sole partner in this band.

If you want to control the message, deliver it... get in front of it. This is what leads to the wildfire of articles and internet posts about a reunion... if it isn't true (which it probably isn't) just fucking respond to it. If Axl and Slash did thaw their frosty relationship, but there is no professional relationship coming out of it... Just say it in 144 characters or less. Use twitter for more than cat/dog pictures and hard to decipher sarcastic political posts.

**EDIT** I love Axl... I love Guns N' Roses (in all forms)... BUT I cannot muster the energy to feel bad for Axl when he has the ability to address all of this. I'm sure the hand written note was not the point where Axl learned DJ was leaving, if he wanted to position it differently than DJ he had the ability and means to do so... if he doesn't like how it went down, shame on him.

Coma we can agree to disagree. Since Rollingstone picked up on the note it was read by people all around the world. Maybe not millions. But a lot. I still stand by my belief that a simple and polite departure note would have been more appropriate.

It's obvious isn't it???
He said he was a nurse who saw DJ play live one time and he looked into his eyes and saw through his soul as he played on stage.
And he knew!
He knows, dammit!
He knows!

I am a silly girl with an Elle Woods personality.  But yeah. Something like that . It's also called street smarts . Oh and I made eye contact with him at the Brooklyn Bowl and the Golden Gods.

I went back and read DJ's letter.

I must be reading a different letter.
He gives credit where credit is due, he explains why he leaves.
I don't see anything arrogant or narcissistic, he mostly talks about other people, not himself.
The letter is not that long, its close in lenght to Axl's letter about buckethead leaving.

 ???

We can agree to disagree. Life has taught me that things are not always what they seem to be. :peace:

I really think it wouldnt matter what the poor guy wrote... someone would be unhappy.

FFS this board (me included) screams out on a day to day basis for information from ANYONE involved in this band to get some inkling of an idea of whats going on.. and the moment one person does so.. we have the opposite reaction.

It literally makes no sense to me, that someone can complain about that letter. I am no fan of DJ as ive stated a lot of times on here, but the guy wrote a letter that was sincere, addressed the key points that most people would be interested in and thanked the guy that gave him the opportunity. Whats the problem? Its a far better option than every time he gets interviewed being asked the same questions about the reasons for leaving and giving innocuous answers that created endless speculation for the rest of his life which is what BBF is going through now.

You know what... heres a tough line.. Axl does what is best for Axl, why shouldnt anyone else be allowed to do whats best for them? So what if it creates a bit of traffic on twitter account and is "self serving" to a point... it was polite.. and still done the right way.. surely you dont think Axl is sitting in his loungeroom with a therapist over this? And if he is.. then he needs more then a therapist.  :P

 

In No way did I insinuate that Axl needed therapy over this letter. I still believe the letter was staged. On the surface it was nice, but there was a sinister subtext IMO. It's just my opinion. Nothing more and nothing less.

no worries.  ;)

Sinister Subtext? Are you serious??? This is a band, not a CIA black site... what did this letter do to 'undermine' Axl, or GnR? The clarity of this letter is what has been missing from this band for decades. Why does everything need to be treated like an issue of national security?

As a heart attack. I think N6 was behind it. DJ could have said these things to Axl privately.  Again just my opinion.

Maybe he did, maybe he wanted the fans to know how he felt about Axl. In order not to have haters that may have said that he was ungrateful, or a quitter.

I would believe that if he had written a less dramatic over the top letter. Again this is just my opinion. 

Maybe what you think is dramatic, and over the top is actually just him trying to write what is without a doubt a very difficult letter to write.
I see nothing dramatic and over the top and I agree with others that it is far better than the BBF fiasco.

We can agree to disagree. I just feel in my heart that the letter was insincere. Call it women's intuition.

An insincere letter which tells the truth. Call it paradox.

Yes. That he was never Axl's friend . It was all just an illusion.

Again.. you're only looking at this thru rose colored glasses (pun intended)

DJ doesn't owe his life and his career to him... if DJ wants to make it clear what HIS future plans are, then that his right. He said nothing about Axl's future plans, that would be wrong of him, but he didn't do that.

I don't know what else to say ... We obviously are never going to agree. I don't even care for the guy or his music... but whats right is right.

You are right. We are never going to agree on this. But what DJ in writing that letter was not right .

If DJ gave wishy washy answers every time people asked him about GNR... Then you would bash him for that too... just like everybody has done to Ron for giving wishy washy answers.

He got out in front of it... and I appreciated that.

Did he? Or did he just throw away a friendship to advance himself since he felt his friend no longer served his interests?  There was a better way to move on with his career. Again just my opinion

We keep going in circles... Do you know his friendship with Axl is over now? because of his awful letter? You have inside info on dat?

No. As a person who has experienced extreme betrayal from coworkers who are manipulative narissicists that letter really hit a nerve with me. Again. Just my opinion. Nothing more and nothing less

Alright. Moving on. Sorry that happened to you.

No worries. Let's just say I would rather take care of an Ebola patient with body fluids streaming out of every orifice with no hazmat suit then ever work with that person again. Great art makes you glad to be alive.  GNR music has been a great source of comfort to for the past 20 years. So I hate to see my favorite artist used by a manipulative narcissist for his own shameful self promotion.  Again. Just my opinion. 

Da fuk

 :yes: yep...

God!!! Baz and DJ are two adults. They don`t need Axl`s approval to do whatever they want. I very much doubt Axl gives a fuck about what they do.

But assuming Axl thinks they are stabbing him in the back, so what? People have the right to do what they want and to go on with their lives despite of what Axl thinks or feels. Axl doesn`t dictate other people actions. They are free men not Axl`s private property

Before DJ made his departure official with his letter. DJ and all the Sixx A.M. band members gave a long interview to RS magazine talking about their plans. DJ made it clear that Sixx A.M. was his priority. Many of us fans figured out he was gone. D.J. oficial announcement just confirmed what many of us already thought

Nowhere did I say Baz was stabbing Axl in the back. 

We keep going in circles... Do you know his friendship with Axl is over now? because of his awful letter? You have inside info on dat?
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Just curious what was so awful in the letter.....

Just curious what was so awful in the letter.....
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I've pretty much said why I thought the letter was a contrived self promoting PR move.  On the surface it was nice.  It was the motivation behind it to use Axl's name to garner attention for himself.  It's still being quoted by Blabbermouth in a recent article about DJ performing the National Anthem at some Monster Energy sponsored event.

Why is this in the Guns section? Isn't DJ a former member? Shouldn't it be moved? While we are at it I happened to notice that the shadow of DJ is still represented on the title page.

Thanks for the feedback.  : ok:



/jarmo

At last.  Something we all can agree on!😎

Also BBFT & BRAIN

 :smoking:

People sure struggle with this, huh?  The dude is gone.

A lot of people said Robin might be back too.  How's that working out?  You know, its almost like once he left, he moved on to other shit.