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Title: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jarmo on September 16, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
Today marks the 24th anniversary of the (European) release of these albums.

It was a Monday, in 1991, and the albums were released on LP, cassette and that kinda new format CD!

So why not have a little flashback? What's your story regarding these albums? When did you get them? What formats? Were you a fan already or was it the first GN'R release you bought? Did you get both at once or one or the other? Favorite songs? First impressions?

Feel free to share your stories!  :peace:




My story is that I'd seen the band live for the first time a month earlier, so some of the songs I had already heard. I also had heard Civil War in the summer of 1990 when it was released on the Nobody's Child compilation. You Could Be Mine was already out when the album was released and you saw it pretty much every day on MTV (Europe).

I remember walking down to the record store after school to pick up the vinyls. Listened straight through all of them, which took a few hours. Some of the songs I recognized as something they played in Stockholm a month earlier, and other songs were completely new.

A few years later I actually got these albums on CD.



/jarmo



Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Ericnor on September 16, 2015, 11:11:28 AM
24 years... A whole generation gone by... Doesnt feel that long ago. I remember getting them on Friday a few days before the official release. Got them on cassette and cd in the morning from the local record store. Actually skipped first class that day to be sure to get them  ;) After hearing the rio bootleg a few months earlier, and the early demos of nov rain and dont cry, quite a few of the songs were familiar. Still, awesome to hear the studio versions! I remember loving nov rain, dont cry alt lyr, estranged, and actually perfect crime and breakdown stood out. That whole afternoon and evening was quite surreal. Almost like an overkill, with that many songs to digest. Still, x-mas and b-day at once. The fact that gnr had dropped Oslo the previous month and ruined my first gnr concert experience was now forgiven  :beer:

-Eirik


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: HBK on September 16, 2015, 12:39:07 PM
Beatiful I Remember, Me Cassettes

 :love:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jak0lantern01 on September 16, 2015, 01:36:32 PM
I was a senior in high school, had to cut school that day.   ;D


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Ow-So7411501 on September 16, 2015, 01:40:03 PM
I remember it taking a few listens for it to grow on me. I was 17 at the time and was a HUGE fan of AFD. The albums were a departure from Appetite but ultimately has some of their greatest tracks. Standouts for me are Estranged, 14 years, Dust and bones, Double Talkin Jive and Don't cry.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jbuch on September 16, 2015, 08:18:31 PM
I was in college and remember being at the record store at midnight.  My roommate bought both these albums and I bought Ozzy's No More Tears album which came out the same night.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: C0ma on September 16, 2015, 08:43:01 PM
So for me it was 24 years tomorrow. It had been released at midnight and a friends older brother (I was in Junior High) bought it on cassette at midnight. By homeroom the next day (after staying up all night) he had dubbed a copy on to a set of TDK Blank Tapes. We listened every opportunity we could during that day trying to get to the songs we hadn't heard yet from bootlegs, Farm Aid and MTV. The year or so prior we heard some new music in dribs and drabs because we had a place down the road called 'The Dead Shed' that started years prior selling Grateful Dead concert recordings then branched out from there. As soon as the day ended I head right for the local 'Strawberries Records' and bought it (them) on CD and Cassette. I still own both but neither format is playable.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: fozzie10 on September 17, 2015, 07:20:17 AM
I saw them in my local woolworths way back then,i was a year married with kids on the way but what the hell i bought the pair of them anyways on cd's went home and played them,and frankly was a little underwhelmed by them if im honest sure some fantastic songs stretched across both albums but not enough to call it a classic album if im honest AFD was a classic one of the best rock albums ever made,these 2 were merly good album,i often wonder if it was more to do with the record company than the band to release them the way they did,it reeked of a cash grab in '91 and still does if im honest.

Dont get me wrong i love the albums but back then as i still do count Lies as a better album the UYI duo with AFD out on its own of course,for my money  would have much preferred to have seen it as one killer and classic album with the other one with what was left over released during the following couple of yearsgiven that insane tour they went on it would haave sated fans desire for new music.

Still 24 years is a frighteningly long time and of course its hard to think as those albums came out music was about to change with Nirvana in particular leading a vanguard of new music (and while a bit shamboic a hell of a live band too),its all gone too fast if im honest.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: LIGuns on September 17, 2015, 10:06:56 AM
Remember it like "Yesterday(s)"...Already had studio versions o' Civil War, You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry (the single had both versions and a demo), saw them live in June and had a few live UYI shows on VHS bootleg..The local record store, Record Stop, were getting the deliveries on Friday..I left school, freshman at community college, and waited on line for my pre-ordered copies..The owner loaded up my car with a bunch of copies, along with some Ozzy No More Tears, to bring to his other store..I remember sitting in the parking lot anxiously debating on which one to listen to..I opted to go in order..Got home tore through the booklets, digested the lyrics and listened countless times..After several calls I relinquished and went to see the latest Nightmare on Elm Street movie with some friends..I ran into another friend and told him how great the albums were,where to get them and about a new song,Locomotive, that was incredible where Axl almost sounded like Ozzy..For years every time I went into a music storesI looked at the UYI albums to reminisce and appreciate the fact that they were finally released...


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: 14 Yrs Of Silence on September 17, 2015, 01:14:47 PM
The single most memorable record purchase of my life.  Just started freshman year in high school.  Run off the bus, get on my bike, ride to Sam Goody.  Pick up the cds which I had pre-ordered, see my buddy walking out as I got there (bastard beat me!).  Got home, popped both disc into my Sony 5 disc changer, and listened straight through while reading the liner notes.  Great day. 


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Bridge on September 17, 2015, 02:03:31 PM
I can't remember if I got them on THE day they came out.... but I bought them both on cassette.  I replaced the cassettes with the CDs sometime around 1995.  I still have the same CDs.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: JAEBALL on September 17, 2015, 03:34:56 PM
I was first introduced to GNR a year after Illusions came out. I was 12. My friend, Colin, who I will always credit for introducing to me this life long fandom/obsession brought them over and we listened to them in my room, but with the volume down so my parents wouldn't hear. He ended up moving on to Nirvana and crap like that and I stayed with GNR ever since.

So really I knew nothing of AFD until after I knew about Illusions. My friend went to Giants Stadium with his cousin to see 'em with Metallica, but my parents wouldn't let me go. I've never forgiven them.

So... seeing Axl, Slash and Duff and to a lesser extent Izzy (not because he wasn't as important) on stage together one time in person... would be very special for me.

For me... two is far superior to one... Estranged, Civil War, Pretty Tied Up and YCBM alone make it for me.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Drew on September 17, 2015, 03:43:12 PM
I'm not sure if this link about the anniversary has been posted or not. There is a reference to a HTGTH interview.

http://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-use-your-illusion-i-ii-album-anniversary/


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: LIGuns on September 17, 2015, 05:59:24 PM
The single most memorable record purchase of my life.  Just started freshman year in high school.  Run off the bus, get on my bike, ride to Sam Goody.  Pick up the cds which I had pre-ordered, see my buddy walking out as I got there (bastard beat me!).  Got home, popped both disc into my Sony 5 disc changer, and listened straight through while reading the liner notes.  Great day. 

Well put...,,


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: EmilyGNR on September 17, 2015, 06:07:43 PM
I'm not sure if this link about the anniversary has been posted or not. There is a reference to a HTGTH interview.

http://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-use-your-illusion-i-ii-album-anniversary/

Thanks for that link :)

I got UYI 1and 2 at the midnight record store sales, could not wait for the next day  : ok:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: C0ma on September 17, 2015, 06:10:12 PM
I'm not sure if this link about the anniversary has been posted or not. There is a reference to a HTGTH interview.

http://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-use-your-illusion-i-ii-album-anniversary/

The funny thing is thinking back to this time frame, what an album release like this meant, what MTV meant to how that album would do... the role of the video, etc...

I remember after the tour for this album wound down waiting for the follow up, and happily accepting the first few crumbs we got in TSI and Sympathy...

Also living in a world where the information was not so readily available from social media and 24 hour internet news sources... I would stop into record stores to have them check their binder (filled with paper) to see if a new release was on the up coming schedule... pouring through Circus Magazine and the like... Unfortunately for me, we all know how long that wait was, but honestly it was sort of fun and what lead my from the newsgroups and mailing lists to this very site where I have posted and lurked for the better part of 17 years or so.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Nytunz on September 17, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
I remember when the illusions came out.. that was the exact time that i became a fan.. i have been listening to music since i was 5-6 years old. Remember i had Alphaville, Bonny Tyler and Springsteen cassettes from my mother, that i was listening to before i knew GNR.  Haha! I have two older brothers that started listening to Alice Cooper, Scorpions, Europe, AC/DC and a norwegian hardrock band called Return. I remember listening to these cassettes while they were at school etc.  And then they got more into GNR right around the time the illusions came out. Then i was totally sold. i listened to GNR all the time. Lies was the first cassette i bought, the other albums (illusions and Appetite) i recorded over with an old taperecorder. Not the best quality but it was good enough for me! My brothers also recorded everything GNR related from MTV! I remember the GNR Weekends. Good times! i Ended up as the biggest GNR fan u can imagine at an age of 7 - 8 years old, and have been ever since..


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: draguns on September 17, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
I had saw my first concert June 1991 at the Nassau Coliseum. I was 14. Axl talked about the new record at the show. I couldn't wait. When that day came, I had to wait again. My parents didn't allow me to go to the midnight selling of UYI. I went the day and loved hearing it.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Gunsguy on September 20, 2015, 12:33:39 AM
lined up at midnight and skipped school to hear the albums for the first time.  I had only heard YCBM and was dying to hear the rest, obviously for me these albums did not disappoint one bit.

Can't believe how long its been!


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jazjme on September 20, 2015, 05:37:04 AM
I had gotten both the cassettes and CD's  2 weeks before release from a Mom and Pop record store near my HS(Record Stop, for anyone on LI) the place still exist though at a different location, I was just out of college when these came out. I couldn't wait, jumped in my car, put in the cassettes, and drove for hrs, all around Long Island. I had to get the cassettes also cause that's what was in my car, and I didn't want to drive back to Nassau County just to get to my CD player! I had heard Civil War(demo) a few times on a pirate radio station, about a yr prior. And I had already seen GNR at the Nassau Coliseum in the June before , so I was familiar with alot of the material. Record Stop was, still is great for bootlegs and rare stuff, demo stuff; I had so much GNR stuff from 88' from that store my senior year in HS.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Lord Stan on September 24, 2015, 02:59:39 AM
I'm a European and did see a live gig in 1991. With all the bootlegs and something called AFD or similar I was a massive fan already.

That said I was, of course, very well aware of the Illusions coming out but I didn't buy them until summer of 1992.

I had a chance to go to the United States of America. Have you ever visited America, can you believe that? Going to America? And there they were in some record store, those yellow and blue CDs. While I only listen to these on some more advanced mediums nowadays I still have the same originals.

EDIT:

Hmm... Just having sent the message I had a flashback. I also went to London earlier during that glorious summer. The CDs are probably from there but it doesn't take away that I visited many record stores in New York and would have seen the colours this time knowing I've got these already :peace:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Mysteron on September 24, 2015, 04:42:40 AM
I got mine on CD on the Sunday from the local record store ran by a friend.

It was slightly annoying because I had this Sony Hi-fi with all these noise reduction options, but the stereo used to apply these options whether I wanted them or not, so the sound was not as grand as I would have liked.

We went up to Tower records in London on the Monday where I purchased them again on vinyl along with some other albums and some T shirts. I remember buying a Primal Scream T Shirt at the same time because I was due to go and see them live in Leeds or Bradford. We then went to Carnaby Street where I purchased some DM boots. We then went to Canterbury where I purchased more boots and T Shirts, then we went out for dinner and drinks at a place run by a guy who liked to dress as a pirate. At night time, we went clubbing at the local nightclub, Monday night was cheap night for drinks, and I got them to play some of the new album later on about 1-2am


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: ice cream sand pig on September 24, 2015, 07:07:02 AM
I got mine on CD on the Sunday from the local record store ran by a friend.

It was slightly annoying because I had this Sony Hi-fi with all these noise reduction options, but the stereo used to apply these options whether I wanted them or not, so the sound was not as grand as I would have liked.

We went up to Tower records in London on the Monday where I purchased them again on vinyl along with some other albums and some T shirts. I remember buying a Primal Scream T Shirt at the same time because I was due to go and see them live in Leeds or Bradford. We then went to Carnaby Street where I purchased some DM boots. We then went to Canterbury where I purchased more boots and T Shirts, then we went out for dinner and drinks at a place run by a guy who liked to dress as a pirate. At night time, we went clubbing at the local nightclub, Monday night was cheap night for drinks, and I got them to play some of the new album later on about 1-2am

that sounds like an awesome time!


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jarmo on September 24, 2015, 07:52:36 AM
Thanks for sharing the stories.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: D on September 26, 2015, 03:36:48 AM
Use Your Illusion 2 was actually the first GNR album I ever bought. I had the 45's of SCOM, WTTJ and PC but never actually bought appetite. we were poor and was easier buying the cheaper singles than buying entire albums.

Anyhow, From the first moment I heard Civil War I was blown away.... I swore for a long time that someone other than Axl had to be singing, cause I had never heard such a diverse  vocalist before or since. Everything is amazing about these CDS. Coma and Estranged have always been my 2 go to favorites.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jarmo on September 26, 2015, 12:13:33 PM
WTF happened?

D is posting?



/jarmo


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: AdZ on September 26, 2015, 12:35:06 PM
Did hell just freeze over?


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: dmathski on September 26, 2015, 04:42:02 PM
I remember going down to the mall and buying both CDs. And when you bought both you got a Guns N Roses patch.  Still have the patch to this day.  : ok:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: norway on September 26, 2015, 05:54:29 PM

I got 1 on casette and then the 'blue album' on cd.

Was young back then. I thought for a long time that Slash was the one doing the dark vocals.

Everything is amazing about these CDS. Coma and Estranged have always been my 2 go to favorites.

It's amazing how gnr got associated with two distinct decades (afd and UIY) of rock. Hi, ladypigmen r us. :wave:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: westcoast_junkie on September 27, 2015, 04:09:48 AM
Was young back then. I thought for a long time that Slash was the one doing the dark vocals.

I believed that too. Like the 'speach ' in Get in the ring,  and "Let me hear you now" in Breakdown  (actually though he said "Limon-imo-nade).  :hihi:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Annie on September 27, 2015, 01:30:48 PM
I remember purchasing both cassette tapes the day after I watched the MTV Rockumentary that made me fall in love with GNR. Played them in my car til they wore out. :beer: Made working night shift alot easier listening to the music going to and from work.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: D on September 30, 2015, 12:39:52 AM
WTF happened?

D is posting?



/jarmo


Missed you guys, what can I say?


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: TheBaconman on October 02, 2015, 12:02:43 AM
WTF happened?

D is posting?



/jarmo


And he put effort into the post

Nice to see him back

Bunch of other corner crawlers I am seeing around here though


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Gunner80 on October 07, 2015, 11:28:50 PM
I bought mine at IGA on cassette a few weeks after release. Later got them both on cd through Columbia house. Just purchased them again a few years ago. Still great albums front to back. Listen to them back to back at least once a year. :peace:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jarmo on October 08, 2015, 06:32:33 AM
Cassettes.... Who misses them?  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: The Hinge on October 08, 2015, 07:42:13 AM
My first ever CD was Illusion 2. I remember being absolutely blown away by estranged.To this day no other song has drawn the emotion out of me like that hearing it for the first time

24 years ago....far out


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: DeN on October 08, 2015, 08:15:15 AM

I remember checking *every* f@cking day for the release of the twins at the Nuggets (retail music chain like Tower etc)
because nobody knew the date and it kinda drove my friends crazy because I was complaining everytime it was not out.

and finally the right day came and I bought the two records on cassettes (I still like cassettes, there's a new hype
about them and I'm pleased to see some indie bands and now some big sellers like Metallica doing cassettes again, you
have to listen the whole thing like it was supposed to hear and that's one of the good thing about it)

so I listened to them in my Walkman (damn I feel old) and it was a long, surprising experience because there was a lot
of different material, and I thought it was a good thing, imagining the next LP like some sort of psychedelic Sgt Pepper,
but well, I had no idea at that time I would have to wait so long to listen to a new original GNR record...



Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jarmo on October 08, 2015, 08:42:09 AM
Oh yeah, I remember our local record store had a board with upcoming releases and I kept checking it every week....




/jarmo


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Ericnor on October 08, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
Oh yeah, I remember our local record store had a board with upcoming releases and I kept checking it every week....




/jarmo


Ha, had actually forgotten how those things worked back in the days.
I remember that too, checking the record store for the release date. I think they had a book where they had paper sheets (or written by hand?) listings of new releases, put out every Monday? or something for the upcoming week...

Man, how things have changed.

-Eirik


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: rebelhipi on October 08, 2015, 09:57:57 AM
Cassettes.... Who misses them?  :hihi:




/jarmo

I do!

Actually i think Illusions sounds best on cassettes. Then Cd and last Vinyl.

Cassettes are fun. Easy to make mix tapes, easy to record your own stuff. ect.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jarmo on October 08, 2015, 10:19:50 AM
You forgot fast forwarding, rewinding, tape hiss... ;)



/jarmo


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: rebelhipi on October 08, 2015, 01:13:18 PM
You forgot fast forwarding, rewinding, tape hiss... ;)



/jarmo

Remembering with great nostalgia  :yes:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: DeN on October 08, 2015, 01:44:08 PM
I use that on my phone :

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.khughes88.tapedeckfree&hl=fr


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Sosso on October 08, 2015, 01:58:45 PM
Cassettes.... Who misses them?  :hihi:




/jarmo

I do!

Actually i think Illusions sounds best on cassettes. Then Cd and last Vinyl.

Cassettes are fun. Easy to make mix tapes, easy to record your own stuff. ect.

I miss them to! My favourite music medium next to vinyl


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: Ericnor on October 08, 2015, 11:55:01 PM
On a side note:
Had a class a few years back. My pupils were nine at the time, and met the word "a walkman" in a (Norwegian) text. They were all clueless on that word, and the context didn't help them much either. I asked them all for suggestions on the meaning of the word.
They came up with "male supermodel", "zebra crossing" (with traffic lights) and some other explanations I have forgotten.
No one came up with a music player with cassettes. Who could blame them  ??? Made me feel, yet again, very old  :hihi:

-Eirik


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: D on October 14, 2015, 02:29:39 AM
I've owned both prob 4 or 5 times over.. I'd always somehow scratch my UYI 1 and Coma would start skipping.. FUCK, id have to buy a new one just to hear Coma.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: jarmo on October 14, 2015, 07:06:59 AM
At least you're buying the cds!  : ok:

I mean, in an age when people are prepared to pay for coffee flavored drinks (I won't call it coffee), but not music...


/jarmo


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: rebelhipi on October 14, 2015, 08:05:36 AM
Speaking of Cassettes. Tommy Stinsons new single is out on Cassette!


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: HBK on October 14, 2015, 02:33:56 PM
Speaking of Cassettes. Tommy Stinsons new single is out on Cassette!

Where ?

 :o


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: DeN on October 14, 2015, 03:36:25 PM
http://burgerrecords.11spot.com/tommy-stinson-lmao-cassette-pre-order.html

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CROn-UNVEAA0rOi.jpg)

fisher-price  :hihi:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: HBK on October 14, 2015, 03:52:23 PM
http://burgerrecords.11spot.com/tommy-stinson-lmao-cassette-pre-order.html

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CROn-UNVEAA0rOi.jpg)

fisher-price  :hihi:



AjajAJja,, Amazing !!!

 :love:


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: AxlsMainMan on October 15, 2015, 09:06:40 AM
Wow. I had that very same cassette player a lifetime ago :o


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: babydolls on October 15, 2015, 06:49:12 PM
You forgot fast forwarding, rewinding, tape hiss... ;)



/jarmo

Not to mention trying to save batteries on my Walkman by using a pen to twirl the tape around to forward/rewind  :hihi:
or the sad discovery of finding the melted mess after leaving tapes in a hot car ...  >:(

I bought my Illusions tapes from Woolworths in St Andrews, Scotland (ah, woolworths nostalgia!), they had a huge display and 2 was selling faster than 1 there.  I asked for the display board (denied). That was a time when there were a tonne of unofficial magazines and poster specials of GnR in newsagents, I still have some of them.


Title: Re: Use Your Illusion I & II - released 24 years ago
Post by: EmilyGNR on October 16, 2015, 12:24:51 AM
Right about the time I became pretty proficient in repairing cassette tapes, they switched to CDs as the preferred method.

I had a car with an 8-track player in it  :hihi: