Here Today... Gone To Hell!

So, the media have already started speculating.

Here's an article from What Culture with a list of 5 potential guitarists who could fill the spot:

http://whatculture.com/music/5-guitarists-that-could-replace-dj-ashba-in-guns-n-roses.php



It's a somewhat realistic list I think, and the way they write about the guitarists it seems they have a grasp of the history of GN'R as well as what the general fans think. This is of course pure speculation, but what isn't these days, huh?  :)


Feel free to use the thread for your own suggestions or rumors heard.

Well,  I have no clue how likely it is with any of these blokes joining,  but they're sure great all of em.  My favourite is Buckethead  :peace:

A good article but there is a little mistake: Buckethead should replace Bumblefoot and not Dj.
 
I would prefer Robin/Buckethead/Richard as gn'r guitarists or Dave Navarro/Buckethead/Richard.

No, Bumblefoot should be convinced to continue/come back  :P

As much as I like Bumblefoot... he should do his own thing.

ROBIN

 :peace:

Yeah, he is the most suitable guitarist to replace Dj. And I wanna hear him playing the TIL solo live  ;D

Pfffft.  Lzzy Hale's not on that list.

Disregarded. ;)  :rofl:

Pray !!! Pray !!! Pray !!!

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very tedious and unimaginative list

You might want to add...and Ron.

I guess it's a list of "best guesses". You could of course have a list of the greatest guitar players out there, but the common thing with all of the guys in this list is that they all have some sort of connection with GNR from the past.

I think it's a greater chance for Robin to join the band than Eddie van Halen to put it that way.

NIN OFF TOUR

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yes, and because they all had some kind of connection with the band in the past it looks like an unrealistic list

Ron and DJ came out of nowhere, I expect the same situation for the next ones.

My point being, at this moment there are no rumors or indications of who the new guitar player(s) will be, so if you want to take a "educated guess" you must go by what you know. Any guitar player that has no connection with GNR in the past would just be a wild guess. Any guitar player who has had some involvement with GNR in the past you can establish the chances of him re-joining.

Of course for some of the guys on that list would be a very slim chance, but since there's a connection with GNR you can at least give an evaluation of it.


I'm not saying there's a bigger chance of it being a guy from the past, it might as well be someone out of left field. But if you make a list of people not having involvement with GNR in the past, be it famous or "unknowns", that's more of a wish-list.

I would love this, esp since word is he's still all over the next album.

Imagine if Robin Finck and Buckethead joined and toured.

 :P

I would travel the world to see them in that case.

I'd flip out. If GNR brings them back, and finally puts out the next album, I could literally forgive any of the past nonsense and get onboard with that.

It would be cool, and welcomed by a lot of people I think.

Is it realistic? Not Buckethead I'm afraid.

Agreed, unfortunately. Dude won't even discuss GNR. And they already tried to get him back in 2006 to no avail.  Not sure what would be different now.  A Robin return is at least within the realm of possibilities, so let's hope for that.

Robin, to me, is the biggest player for me apart from Axl in regards to New Guns. His writing and musicon the album, and his live perfomances... amazing.

Bucket as well, but I have no illusions. He's vague in terms of touring and band commitments. His work on Chinese stands forever though.

I would settle for Robin. That would be outtathisworld.

Robin and Bucket's guitars defined Chinese, and likely the bulk of the next album. If either of them came back in the wake of the recent departures, it would be a huge win for the band.

How do you think the sound of GNR will be with Richard and Robin as the only guitarists? Would it work?

They have to re-structure some of the Chinese songs live since there's so much going on in parts, but it would be cool with a 2 guitar line-up. You would loose a bit of the "crazy" solos, but I think Richard could handle some of it.

According to Ron, Richard and Robin were set to be a duo in 2006 before Ron was brought in by Axl and Merck last minute, which, according to him, sparked some of the awkwardness that lingered during his tenure in the band.  So, yes, I'm sure if Robin's willing they'd be down for it.

Id like to see Bucket and Robin but if it was somebody new, this guy could do it....

http://youtu.be/gXmQXR-KYTE

I would like to see Robin to replace Dj and Dave Navarro to replace Bumblefoot (I agree that a return of Buckethead is pretty impossible)

Actually a pretty good and believable list....I would like to add Chrid Broderick former,y of Megadeth....,

I would really prefer Robin. I mean he was the guy that replaced Slash. He played the materiel with his own sound which I always thought was so unique from other guitarists.

Trent is tinkering with a new album. Depends on what the situation is there right now.

If both NIN and GNR are ready to go at the same time, and they both want Robin... who will he choose?

Robin and maybe Paul Huge.
I never really liked Buckethead and imo DJ was perfect for Guns.Only Robin could replace Ashba.

Personally I think Robin and Richard fits well together.

Better then Robin with Bumblefoot

Probably not legit, but there's a rumor going around that Robin is returning to GNR.

Not sure about the exact source, but I think the rumor originates from the Brazilian fan community.

If the plan is to release a album of older material written by bucket and Robin.   Then tour with this material and other old material.  I would say the best bet would make every effort possible to try and get Robin and bucket back

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This is how I would set the odds:


Slash   100-1
Buckethead   100-1
Zakk Wylde   50-1
Izzy   30-1
Paul Tobias   30-1
Duff   20-1
Dave Navarro   20-1
John 5   10-1
Robin Finck   4-1

While I certainly wouldn't mind seeing it, I just don't understand the confidence some people have in a guitar player that has quit the band twice coming back.

Well, I say there's a 80% chance of him not coming back so I wouldn't say I'm confident of him returning.

I'm just saying, of the people who've had some sort of connection with GNR previously, I think the one most likely to return is Robin. There's probably a bigger chance of someone new coming in.

What a shame, if Robin doesn't return.  His chemistry with Axl & Richard was/is amazing.

He did return once, so why not again? I know plenty of couples who break up and get back together countless times. Obviously not an equal comparison, but it could happen.

Yes, that's my take on it.

A Robin return would be my preferred option at this point. I don't know if I'm ready to get amped about 2 new guitar players. I'd do it, but it wouldn't be my first choice. Especially if NEW music isn't the focus and the goal is still to release the CD leftovers, or what have you.

A slight amendment. I'd love a reunion of the classic lineup as well, but I still don't see that as viable right now.

If any past members returned, Robin would be at the top of the list.  1) He's on the next record 2) Richard is his best friend 3) He and Axl still have a good relationship.

I think we won't hear anything about gnr for a long time...again

I was never a big Robin fan and was super excited when Ashba replaced him, but as it stands right now with a reunion not being a realistic option...my 2 choices to fill Ron's and DJ's spots would be Dave Navarro and Robin. Dave is very well known for his work with Jane's Addiction, red hot chilli peppers, as well as being the host on Ink Master...he also has a history with guns as he plays on "oh my god". So he brings a well known name and notoriety to the band. Robin obviously played on CD and the next 1 or 2 albums if they ever see the light of day. So it would be nice if you had 90% of the band together who recorded these albums. As for Bucket...no f'n thank you...he's the reason I gave up on GNR back when he was around. Sorry but a guy who wears a mask, a kfc bucket on his head, does nunchuck routines during his solo spots and only speaks through a hand puppet does not belong in GNR...plus from different interviews over the years it sounds like he wasn't liked by the other members.

I have this black les Paul gothic guitar.   Cost me around 3 ga a few years back.   It is just sitting in my closet.    If the offer is right Thebaconman could break it out and learn to play it.   I have honestly never even tried it out yet hahaha.  But if the offer is right

With the exception of Axl it appears.

Tommy's the only one who's been somewhat outspoken regarding his dislike for Buckethead.  I believe he got along okay with Richard & Robin.  And if Duff comes back full time for the next tour the problem would solve itself...Just sayin.

What has Tommy ever said about bucket

There's this guy.

He's called Robin Finck.

He wrote "Better" with Axl.

He plays amazing guitar - iconic, timeless, original - rock guitar on tracks like IRS, Street of Dreams, TWAT and the beforementioned Better.

He's also a great live player and a completely genuine soul (said the atheist).

An artist. With an "e" = Artiste.

Maybe Guns N' Roses could give him a call?

 :P

I'd like to see Robin back too, for many reasons. The most important ones being that he was pretty damn great live and he can produce some amazing music in the studio. He is an unique artist who does his own thing, kind of reminds me of John Frusciante (not soundwise, but as an artist). And considering the fact that he had a major influence on CD, his comeback would give the live performances a nice touch again.

It would most likely be a shot in the arm to get Robin back.

For the entire band, crew, people around them. No doubt.

Also because from what I've heard and experienced, he goes his own ways.

If Axl is going to release another album... by all accounts those songs are going to feature Robin pretty prominently.

So if they are then going to tour ... why wouldn't you want to see Robin on stage?



 

From what I've seen on the boards, I would say a majority of people wouldn't mind seeing Robin back in the fold. If it happens, I think it'll be a quite popular choice.

Yeah. I think it's three fold.

A) it's the most popular choice sans a reunion with Slash Duff and Izzy
B) people DON'T WANT TO SEE more brand new guys in the fold
C) robin was part of the Chinese Democracy vision Axl had, and a lot of people supported it when it started, Robin has a lot of fans

Agreed all around.

It absolutely helps the band's credibility to have people on the stage that actually worked on the songs.

Maybe that was Axl's grand plan all along. At least, we can can roll with that if it happens. If not, well, plans change.  :peace:

If another Guns N? Roses record ever sees the light of day, and it?s dusty old tracks laid down years ago by Robin and Bucket, than sure, it makes sense to get the band that created the music back together.
But Robin and Buckethead are cult favorites at best. No one outside this forum, and probably a NIN forum somewhere on the interwebs knows or cares who Robin is.
Buckethead is more renowned, yet I?m not sure many of his fans would prefer him back in GN?R. Which appears to be out of the question anyways, so I fail to see what Robin potentially re-entering the fold accomplishes.
Not to mention he?s left twice already, so can?t imagine he?s dying to be a part of this ever sinking ship.
He is the Robin to Bucketheads Batman, who isn?t coming back. And even when they were together, not much was accomplished. Or at least has yet to be released.

Strange to me that many here would be against going back to the formula that worked(classic lineup) but would be gung ho about going back in time to a half assed version of the lineup that didn?t.
But to each his own. That?s what makes this forum so fascinating.

NIN Out Tour Now

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That early 2000's lineup was Axl's vision of GNR's relaunch. He seemed more determined at that time than anytime since. For whatever reason, it fell apart and he/we didn't get to see it through. CD was based on that lineup, so a return of ONE of those guys appeals to many who supported the band going in that direction. And as far as we know, that is still the direction the band is/was heading towards.

Hi,all. First post here.  :)

As much as I would like to see Robin back in the band and play This I Love on a stage with the band ( :love:), I doubt it will happen. He's been gone for what? Seven years now? He's got a kid and it looks like he's trying to stay as close to his family as possible. I'm not sure he would consider being away for months... :/

As far as the list goes, I like the idea of Buckethead getting the spot (but it seems even more impossible than having Robin back!). This guy is by far the best guitarist ever!  :drool:

Sure, I get that, but myself and many, if not most others chalk the relaunch up as a botched attempt.
It took a decade to never really get off the ground. I just don?t see how bringing back the same crew that couldn?t get it done in their prime could be seen as moving forward today.

When I brought my friends to see Guns, they were less than impressed, and Robin was the main reason why.
I thought he brought energy to the stage, but no one was anything resembling impressed with his playing.

Buckethead was tough to look at, but his technical ability compensated for it.

Just seems many forget that Robin wasn?t all that popular during his time in Guns.
Sure, 8 or 9 people here will be psyched, but it?s not going to be all that exciting to anyone not logged in at htgth.

I don't think there's many here who would be against a reunion, but it might not get mentioned that much because it's very unrealistic.

Correct.

It's my clear second choice for the direction of the band, but if a GNR reunion is not in the works, then Robin is my preference.

Well the majority of people who were completely against Axl carrying on as GNR really were not welcomed here at a certain point. So a lot of the people left here are people who really see the CD version of GNR as their GNR. I'm not one of those people, but if Axl puts out a record featuring Robin, then he's the guy i want in the band on stage. (Buckethead is obviously not a realistic option)

Sure. For the record I wasn?t really against Axl moving forward without the others at the time.
I probably thought it sounded like a stupid idea, and that his ego was probably overblown, but I didn?t know, nor really care what caused the split, and just wanted to hear more music from my favorite frontman.
I also thought he was that talented that whatever he put out I was going to enjoy.

Now in hindsight, I do think it was clearly the wrong play. His career has been in a downward spiral since splitting with Slash, Duff and Izzy, and GN?R?s legacy has been diminished.
To the point where a guitarist given the option of playing with Axl or Nikki Sixx, chooses Nikki Sixx. Yikes.

That said, I do believe he is capable of creating amazing music, if his head is in that space.
One thing I got from Chinese is that he is far more reliant on his surrounding musicians than I may have believed to be the case before.
I, like most people, wasn?t particularly enthralled with Robin?s playing. Maybe Axl was, but they weren?t able to produce much over an extended period of time.
So I fail to see how him returning is going to inspire him to create new music, which selfishly is all I care about at this point. I don?t need to see the 27th leg of the Chinese Democracy tour.

But if Axl is creatively tapped, or retired as a creative artist, and just plans to release old recordings, then yea, I agree. Would be cool to have those players on stage, rather than assembling a new cover band to cover the old cover band.

I don't think it matters how the general population would feel about Robin returning. It's quite clear what their optimal choice would be. Ultimately, it matters most who Axl wants in that slot. If he wants Robin back, and he's willing to come back, that's the way it'll be I'd imagine.

I would love to see Robin back in the band! He`s a great guitarist with a awesome sound!