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Title: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 10:27:33 AM
Hi there. How's it going?

Guns N' Roses played over 200 shows all over the world between the release of Chinese Democracy and now.

I see people post flashback threads about the album's songs. So I figured we could take a look at the tour itself.

I believe the dates were as follows:

Asia:

December 11th, 2009 - Taipei, Taiwan @ Taipei City Stadium
December 13th, 2009 - Seoul, South Korea @ Olympic Park Gymnastics Arena
December 16th, 2009 - Osaka, Japan @ Kyocera Dome Osaka
December 19th, 2009 - Tokyo, Japan @ Tokyo Dome
   
Canada:

January 13th, 2010 - Winnipeg, MB @ MTS Centre
January 16th, 2010 - Calgary, AB @ Pengrowth Saddledome
January 17th, 2010 - Edmonton, AB @ Rexall Place
January 19th, 2010 - Saskatoon, SK @ Credit Union Centre
January 20th, 2010 - Regina, SK @ Brandt Centre
January 24th, 2010 - Hamilton, ON @ Copps Coliseum
January 25th, 2010 - London, ON @ John Labatt Centre
January 27th, 2010 - Montreal, QP @ Centre Bell
January 28th, 2010 - Toronto, ON @ Air Canada Centre
January 31st, 2010 - Ottawa, ON @ Scotiabank Place
February 1st, 2010 - Quebec City, PQ @ Colisee Pepsi
February 3rd, 2010 - Moncton, NB @ Moncton Coliseum
February 4th, 2010 - Halifax, NS @ Metro Centre
   
NYC acoustic shows:
 
February 11th, 2010 - New York, NY @ Varvatos
February 14th, 2010 - New York, NY @ Rose Bar
   
Latin America:
 
March 7th, 2010 - Bras?lia, Brazil @ Gin?sio Nilson Nelson
March 10th, 2010 - Belo Horizonte, Brazil @ Gin?sio Jornalista Felipe Drumond (Mineirinho)
March 13th, 2010 - S?o Paulo, Brazil @ Palestra It?lia Stadium
March 14th, 2010 - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil @ Pra?a da Apoteose (Postponed due to stage collapse)
March 16th, 2010 - Porto Alegre, Brazil @ Fiergs
March 18th, 2010 - Montevideo, Uruguay @ Estadio Centenario
March 20th, 2010 - Santiago, Chile @ Movistar Arena
March 22nd, 2010 - Buenos Aires, Argentina @ Estadio Velez Sarsfield
March 25th, 2010 - Lima, Peru @ La Explanada Sur del Estadio Monumental
March 27th, 2010 - Caracas, Venezuela @ Poliedro de Caracas
March 30th, 2010 - Bogot?, Colombia @ Parque Jaime Duque
April 1st, 2010 - Quito, Ecuador @ Estadio Ol?mpico Atahualpa
April 4th, 2010 - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil @ Pra?a da Apoteose
April 7th, 2010 - Panama City, Panama @ Estadio Figali
April 11th, 2010 - San Salvador, El Salvador @ Estadio Cuscatl?n
April 13th, 2010 - San Jose, Costa Rica @ La Gu?cima (Canceled due to unsafe stage)
April 13th, 2010 - Guatemala City, Guatemala @ Estadio del Ej?rcito (Canceled)
April 15th, 2010 - San Juan, Puerto Rico @ Roberto Clemente Coliseum
   
Scandinavia & Russia:
 
May 31st, 2010 - Bergen, Norway @ Vestlandshallen
June 2nd, 2010 - Oslo, Norway @ Oslo Spektrum
June 5th, 2010 - Helsinki, Finland @ K?pyl?n Urheilupuisto (Helsinki Live 2010)
June 6th, 2010 - Saint Petersburg, Russia @ Ledovy Dvorets
June 8th, 2010 - Moscow, Russia @ Olympiyskiy Stadium
June 12th, 2010 - Norje, Sweden @ Norje Havsbad (Sweden Rock Festival)
June 14th, 2010 - Aalborg, Denmark @ Gigantium
   
Sturgis:
 
August 13th, 2010 - Sturgis, SD @ Monkey Rock USA (Rock 'N Rev Festival)
   
Europe:
 
August 27th, 2010 - Reading, UK @ Little John's Farm (Reading Festival)
August 29th, 2010 - Leeds, UK @ Bramham Park (Leeds Festival)
August 31st, 2010 - Belfast, UK @ Odyssey Arena SOLD OUT
September 1st, 2010 - Dublin, Ireland @ The O2  
September 4th, 2010 - Rome, Italy @ PalaLottomatica
September 5th, 2010 - Milan, Italy @ Mediolanum Forum di Assago
September 8th, 2010 - Zurich, Switzerland @ Hallenstadion
September 10th, 2010 - Amn?ville, France @ Le Galaxie
September 13th, 2010 - Paris, France @ Palais omnisport de Paris-Bercy  
September 14th, 2010 - Paris, France @ L'Arc
September 16th, 2010 - Geneva, Switzerland @ Geneva ARENA
September 18th, 2010 - Vienna, Austria @ Wiener Stadthalle  
September 21st, 2010 - Bucharest, Romania @ Romexpo
September 23rd, 2010 - Belgrade, Serbia @ Beogradska Arena
September 24th, 2010 - Zagreb, Croatia @ Zagreb Arena
September 27th, 2010 - Prague, Czech Republic @ O2 Arena
September 30th, 2010 - Antwerpen, Belgium @ Sportpaleis
October 2nd, 2010 - Lille, France @ Zenith Grand Palais
October 3rd, 2010 - Arnhem, Netherlands @ GelreDome XS
October 6th, 2010 - Lisbon, Portugal @ Pavilh?o Atl?ntico
October 9th, 2010 - Madrid, Spain @ Palacio Vistalegre
October 10th, 2010 - San Sebastian, Spain @ Velodromo Anoeta
October 13th, 2010 - London, UK @ The O2  
October 14th, 2010 - London, UK @ The O2
October 17th, 2010 - Birmingham, UK @ LG Arena
October 18th, 2010 - Manchester, UK @ MEN Arena
October 22nd, 2010 - Zaragoza, Spain @ Pabell?n Pr?ncipe Felipe
October 23rd, 2010 - Barcelona, Spain @ Palau Ol?mpic Badalona
October 29th, 2010 - Moscow, Russia @ Mosfilm
   
Australia:
 
December 1st, 2010 - Townsville, QLD, Australia @ Reid Park
December 4th, 2010 - Sydney, NSW, Australia @ ANZ Stadium (Sydney Telstra 500)
December 7th, 2010 - Adelaide, SA, Australia @ Adelaide Entertainment Centre
December 11th, 2010 - Kwinana Beach, WA, Australia @ Perth Motorplex
December 16th, 2010 - Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates @ Yas Arena
   
Latin America:
 
October 2nd, 2011 - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (Rock In Rio 2011)
October 5th, 2011 - Santiago, Chile @ Movistar Arena
October 8th, 2011 - La Plata, Argentina @ Estadio ?nico de La Plata
October 10th, 2011 - Rosario, Argentina @ Sal?n Metropolitano
October 12th, 2011 - C?rdoba, Argentina @ Orfeo Superdomo
October 15th, 2011 - Asunci?n, Paraguay @ Jockey Club del Paraguay
October 18th, 2011 - Mexico City, Mexico @ Palacio de los Deportes
October 19th, 2011 - Mexico City, Mexico @ Palacio de los Deportes
October 22nd, 2011 - Guadalajara, Mexico @ Arena VFG
October 23rd, 2011 - Monterrey, Mexico @ Arena Monterrey
   
North America:
 
October 28th, 2011 - Orlando, FL @ Amway Center
October 29th, 2011 - Miami, FL @ AmericanAirlines Arena
October 31st, 2011 - Greenville, SC @ BI-LO Center
November 2nd, 2011 - Atlanta, GA @ Philips Arena
November 4th, 2011 - Houston, TX @ Toyota Center
November 5th, 2011 - Dallas, TX @ Gexa Energy Pavilion
November 8th, 2011 - Omaha, NE @ CenturyLink Center
November 9th, 2011 - Norman, OK @ Lloyd Noble Center
November 12th, 2011 - Kansas City, MO @ Sprint Center
November 13th, 2011 - Minneapolis, MN @ Target Center
November 15th, 2011 - Chicago, IL @ Allstate Arena
November 17th, 2011 - East Rutherford, NJ @ IZOD Center
November 19th, 2011 - Hartford, CT @ Comcast Theatre
November 20th, 2011 - Wilkes-Barre, PA @ Mohegan Sun Arena
November 23rd, 2011 - Albany, NY @ Times Union Center (Cancelled)
November 25th, 2011 - Worcester, MA @ DCU Center
November 26th, 2011 - Camden, NJ @ Susquehanna Bank Center
November 28th, 2011 - Hamilton, ON @ Copps Coliseum
December 1st, 2011 - Auburn Hills, MI @ The Palace Of Auburn Hills
December 2nd, 2011 - Cincinnati, OH @ U.S. Bank Arena
December 4th, 2011 - Nashville, TN @ Bridgestone Arena
December 5th, 2011 - Southaven, MS @ DeSoto Civic Center
December 7th, 2011 - Youngstown, OH @ Covelli Centre
December 8th, 2011 - Indianapolis, IN @ Conseco Fieldhouse
December 11th, 2011 - Denver, CO @ 1STBANK Center
December 13th, 2011 - Salt Lake City, UT @ Maverik Center
December 16th, 2011 - Seattle, WA @ KeyArena
December 17th, 2011 - Vancouver, BC @ Pacific Coliseum
December 21st, 2011 - Inglewood, CA @ The Forum
December 27th, 2011 - Phoenix, AZ @ Comerica Theatre
December 30th, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
December 31st, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
   


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 10:27:54 AM
Up Close And Personal:
 
February 10th, 2012 - New York, NY @ Roseland Ballroom
February 12th, 2012 - New York, NY @ Terminal 5
February 15th, 2012 - New York, NY @ The Ritz (Webster Hall)
February 16th, 2012 - New York, NY @ Hiro Ballroom
February 19th, 2012 - Chicago, IL @ House of Blues
February 21st, 2012 - Detroit, MI @ The Fillmore
February 23rd, 2012 - Silver Spring, MD @ The Fillmore
February 24th, 2012 - Atlantic City, NJ @ House of Blues
February 27th, 2012 - Philadelphia, PA @ The Electric Factory
March 1st, 2012 - Atlanta, GA @ The Tabernacle
March 3rd, 2012 - Lake Buena Vista, FL @ House of Blues Orlando
March 5th, 2012 - Miami Beach, FL @ Fillmore Miami Beach at Jackie Gleason Theatre
March 9th, 2012 - Hollywood, CA @ Hollywood Palladium
March 11th, 2012 - Los Angeles, CA @ The Wiltern
March 12th, 2012 - West Hollywood, CA @ House Of Blues West Hollywood
   
Europe:
 
May 11th, 2012 - Moscow, Russia @ Stadium Live
May 12th, 2012 - Moscow, Russia @ Stadium Live
May 17th, 2012 - Dublin, Ireland @ The O2
May 19th, 2012 - Nottingham, UK @ Capital FM Arena
May 20th, 2012 - Liverpool, UK @ Echo Arena
May 23rd, 2012 - Newcastle upon Tyne, UK @ Metro Radio Arena
May 25th, 2012 - Glasgow, UK @ SECC
May 26th, 2012 - Birmingham, UK @ LG Arena
May 29th, 2012 - Manchester, UK @ Manchester Arena
May 31st, 2012 - London, UK @ The O2
June 1st, 2012 - London, UK @ The O2
June 4th, 2012 - Rotterdam, The Netherlands @ Ahoy
June 5th, 2012 - Paris, France @ Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy
June 8th, 2012 - Mönchengladbach, Germany @ Warsteiner Hockeypark
June 10th, 2012 - Lyon, France @ Halle Tony Garnier
June 11th, 2012 - Strasbourg, France @ Zénith de Strasbourg
June 14th, 2012 - Toulouse, France @ Zénith de Toulouse
June 16th, 2012 - Clisson, France @ Hellfest
June 18th, 2012 - Montpellier, France @ Park&Suites Arena
June 19th, 2012 - Toulon, France @ Zénith Oméga de Toulon
June 22nd, 2012 - Rho (Milan), Italy @ Arena Fiera Milano (Gods Of Metal)
June 24th, 2012 - Dessel, Belgium @ Graspop Metal Meeting
June 27th, 2012 - Basel, Switzerland @ St. Jakobshalle
June 29th, 2012 - Graz, Austria @ Schwarzlsee (See-Rock 2012)
July 1st, 2012 - București, Romania @ Romeexpo (Green Fest)
July 3rd, 2012 - Tel Aviv, Israel @ Park HaYarkon
July 6th, 2012 - Istanbul, Turkey @ Parkorman (Tuborg GoldFest)
July 8th, 2012 - Sofia, Bulgaria @ Vasil Levski National Stadium (Sofia Rocks 2012)
July 11th, 2012 - Rybnik, Poland @ Stadion Miejski
July 13th, 2012 - Piešťany, Slovakia @ Letisko (Airport) (Topfest PLUS)
July 15th, 2012 - Novi Sad, Serbia @ Petrovaradinska tvrdava (EXIT Festival)
July 17th, 2012 - Split, Croatia @ Spaladium Arena
July 20th, 2012 - Benicàssim, Spain @ Costa de Fuego festival
July 21st, 2012 - Saint-Tropez, France @ Unknown
July 22nd, 2012 - Palma, Spain @ Son Fusteret
   
Bridge School Benefit:
 
October 20th, 2012 - Mountain View, CA @ Shoreline Amphitheatre (Bridge School Benefit)
October 21st, 2012 - Mountain View, CA @ Shoreline Amphitheatre (Bridge School Benefit)
   
Appetite For Democracy:
 
October 31st, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 2nd, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 3rd, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 7th, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 9th, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 10th, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 14th, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 17th, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 18th, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 21st, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 23rd, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
November 24th, 2012 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel Las Vegas
   
India & Asia:
 
December 7th, 2012 - Bangalore, India @ Bharatiya City, Thanisandra Road
December 9th, 2012 - Mumbai, India @ MMRDA Grounds
December 12th, 2012 - Gurgaon, India @ Leisure Valley Grounds, Sector 29
December 16th, 2012 - Ancol, Jakarta, Indonesia @ MEIS (Mata Elang International Stadium) Indoor Stadium
December 18th, 2012 - Tokyo, Japan @ Zepp Tokyo
   
Surprise show:
 
February 13th, 2013 - West Hollywood, CA @ Soho House
   
Australia & more:
 
March 9th, 2013 - Perth, WA, Australia @ Perth Arena
March 12th, 2013 - Sydney, NSW, Australia @ Allphones Arena
March 13th, 2013 - Newcastle, NSW, Australia @ Newcastle Entertainment Centre
March 16th, 2013 - Melbourne, VIC, Australia @ Sidney Myer Music Bowl
March 17th, 2013 - Melbourne, VIC, Australia @ Sidney Myer Music Bowl
March 20th, 2013 - Brisbane, QLD, Australia @ Brisbane Entertainment Centre
March 24th, 2013 - Sepang, Selangor, Malaysia @ Sepang International Circuit (Formula 1 GP)
March 28th, 2013 - Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates @ du Arena
March 30th, 2013 - Beirut, Lebanon @ Forum de Beyrouth
   
USA:
 
May 24th, 2013 - Pryor, OK @ Pryor Festival Grounds (Rocklahoma 2013)
May 26th, 2013 - San Antonio, TX @ AT&T Center Grounds (River City Rockfest)
May 28th, 2013 - Houston, TX @ House of Blues Houston (SOLD OUT)
May 29th, 2013 - Dallas, TX @ House of Blues Dallas (SOLD OUT)
June 1st, 2013 - Lubbock, TX @ Lone Star Amphitheater
June 2nd, 2013 - Kansas City, MO @ The Midland by AMC
June 5th, 2013 - Buffalo, NY @ Outer Harbor
June 6th, 2013 - Brooklyn, NY @ Brooklyn Bowl
June 8th, 2013 - New York City, NY @ Randall's Island (The Governors Ball Music Festival)
   
Canada:
 
July 12th, 2013 - Québec, QC @ Plaines d'Abraham (Festival d'été de Québec)
July 14th, 2013 - Montreal, QC @ Métropolis
July 15th, 2013 - Toronto, ON @ Sound Academy
   
South America:
 
March 16th, 2014 - Texcoco, MEX, Mexico @ Feria de Texcoco (Hell And Heaven Metal Fest [Canceled by promoter])
March 20th, 2014 - Rio de Janeiro, RJ, Brazil @ HSBC Arena
March 22nd, 2014 - Belo Horizonte, MG, Brazil @ Esplanada do Mineirão (Planeta Brasil)
March 25th, 2014 - Brasília, DF, Brazil @ Ginásio Nilson Nelson
March 28th, 2014 - São Paulo, SP, Brazil @ Parque Anhembi
March 30th, 2014 - Curitiba, PR, Brazil @ Estádio Durival Britto
April 1st, 2014 - Florianópolis, SC, Brazil @ Music Park
April 3rd, 2014 - Porto Alegre, RS, Brazil @ Pavilhão da Fiergs
April 6th, 2014 - Buenos Aires, Argentina @ Estadio Ferro
April 9th, 2014 - Asunción, Paraguay @ Jockey Club del Paraguay
April 12th, 2014 - La Paz, Bolivia @ Estadio Hernando Siles
April 15th, 2014 - Recife, PE, Brazil @ Chevrolet Hall
April 17th, 2014 - Fortaleza, CE, Brazil @ Centro de Eventos do Ceará


April 23rd, 2014 - Los Angeles, CA @ Club Nokia (2014 Revolver Golden Gods)
   
USA & No Trickery!
 
May 13th, 2014 - Bethlehem, PA @ Sands Bethlehem Event Center (SOLD OUT)
May 16th, 2014 - Columbus, OH @ Crew Stadium (Rock On The Range)
May 21st, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
May 24th, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
May 25th, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
May 28th, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
May 30th, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
May 31st, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
June 4th, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
June 6th, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
June 7th, 2014 - Las Vegas, NV @ The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino




So, the topic is about the tour and the shows.

Did you attend any shows? Any highlights? Any particular things that you remember when thinking back to the show or tour (maybe you encountered bad weather, maybe you met somebody in the band etc. etc.)?

Here's some photos to refresh your memory:

2009: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/tags/2009/
2010: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/tags/2010/
2011: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/tags/2011/
2012: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/tags/2012/
2013: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/tags/2013/
2014: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/tags/2014/

Map with photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnrtour/map/



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 10:30:52 AM
I think that 12.19.2009 show is the best show this line-up has done.

Marathon show, incredible setlist, and Axl sounds good.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Annie on May 19, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
Brooklyn Bowl and Golden Gods were 2 nights I will never forget. :beer: :love:


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Spirit on May 19, 2015, 10:45:58 AM
Looking at that list... they really have toured the world.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 10:47:04 AM
I think that 12.19.2009 show is the best show this line-up has done.

Marathon show, incredible setlist, and Axl sounds good.

Depends how you judge a show.
It was long, great to hear all those songs. But the band got better the more they played together.



Brooklyn Bowl

That was a cool little place!
Too bad about the truck stop revenge....  :nervous:



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 10:54:38 AM


I think that 12.19.2009 show is the best show this line-up has done.

Marathon show, incredible setlist, and Axl sounds good.


Depends how you judge a show.


From 2001 onwards, I judge a show on one thing and one thing only : how does Axl sound?

Its pretty much all that matters at this stage of the game.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Spirit on May 19, 2015, 11:01:33 AM


I think that 12.19.2009 show is the best show this line-up has done.

Marathon show, incredible setlist, and Axl sounds good.


Depends how you judge a show.


From 2001 onwards, I judge a show on one thing and one thing only : how does Axl sound?

Its pretty much all that matters at this stage of the game.


Me too really. Not because I don't care about the band or how they perform, but to me they're such a solid unit that I never worry about them fucking up. A fuck up during a solo happens, but a concert as a whole is always solid.

The vocalist is always the most vulnerable when it comes to having a bad day. It's most noticeable and it'll happen more often ? on a general basis, not just GNR. Axl has had his good and not-so-good periods during the tour.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 11:08:52 AM

Me too really. Not because I don't care about the band or how they perform, but to me they're such a solid unit that I never worry about them fucking up. A fuck up during a solo happens, but a concert as a whole is always solid.

The vocalist is always the most vulnerable when it comes to having a bad day. It's most noticeable and it'll happen more often ? on a general basis, not just GNR. Axl has had his good and not-so-good periods during the tour.


I don't hear too many problems with the band.  With any incarnation of the new band, really.

I think the shitting on DJ is totally overdone.  At least as it pertains to his playing.  And all the other guitarists have always been solid.

But if Axl sounds bad, its hard to overcome.  And he has had legs within the same year where he sounded good on one, but not on the other.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 11:11:01 AM
That 12.07.2010 concert from Adelaide is also pretty solid.

That's the one the guys at MYGNR put up on Youtube.  Good show worth checking out.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: AdZ on May 19, 2015, 11:16:15 AM
So many great memories from this tour, shows that stand out that I was actually at definitely include the last night of the European 2010 leg in Barcelona - a hot venue, good beer and the band was really, really tight.  I think you can definitely see the sound grow even more cohesive as a tour goes on and they sounded like a juggernaut that night.

Getting drowned at Rock in Rio was also.. memorable.

Monton in 2010 was an interesting show, the arena ceiling wasn't high enough so the stage had to be modified, great small crowd.

And who can forget Hellfest!  It seemed like the crowd went back forever.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Spirit on May 19, 2015, 11:23:03 AM

And who can forget Hellfest!  It seemed like the crowd went back forever.



Wasn't Axl in top form during this concert? I seem to remember some really great vocal performances from this show.

Gotta check out youtube..


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 11:23:26 AM
That 12.07.2010 concert from Adelaide is also pretty solid.

That's the one the guys at MYGNR put up on Youtube.  Good show worth checking out.

So your tour memories are based on Youtube clips?
To be honest, that wasn't really what I had in mind by starting the topic. See AdZ's post above for examples. :)

But yeah, I get that Youtube is popular and all... But maybe there's more memories than "I saw the show on Youtube and Axl sounded great"... :)



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 11:28:05 AM


That 12.07.2010 concert from Adelaide is also pretty solid.

That's the one the guys at MYGNR put up on Youtube.  Good show worth checking out.


So your tour memories are based on Youtube clips?


Yeah, as it turns out, I wasn't *in Australia*. ::)

So, is this just supposed to be a dick measuring contest where the most ticket stubs wins, then?  I was not aware.

OK, well, in that case...I went on 11.26.2011.  Axl came out at a little after 11PM and they played for 3 hours.  I had a good time.

And I guess that concludes my presentation.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Spirit on May 19, 2015, 11:34:09 AM
That 12.07.2010 concert from Adelaide is also pretty solid.

That's the one the guys at MYGNR put up on Youtube.  Good show worth checking out.

So your tour memories are based on Youtube clips?
To be honest, that wasn't really what I had in mind by starting the topic. See AdZ's post above for examples. :)

But yeah, I get that Youtube is popular and all... But maybe there's more memories than "I saw the show on Youtube and Axl sounded great"... :)



/jarmo


When looking back at the tour as a whole, I can only support my views based on youtube clips and the DVD as I only saw 2 shows ? the first two in Europe, Bergen and Oslo. Going only by that, I feel it's still a ride I've participated in. Don't underestimate the thrill of a good update thread!  ;)

The concerts I was at - killer shows! The only small gripe I had after seeing back to back shows like that was that the setlist was pretty much identical. Not a big deal really, as there were two different atmospheres and the experience became pretty different.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: AdZ on May 19, 2015, 11:39:01 AM
Wasn't Axl in top form during this concert? I seem to remember some really great vocal performances from this show.

From what I remember!  

The stage was huge too, I stood on a hillside with a bunch of other fans and got a cool view I hadn't really seen before..

(http://i58.tinypic.com/vo0dpu.jpg)


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 12:36:26 PM
Yeah, as it turns out, I wasn't *in Australia*. ::)

So, is this just supposed to be a dick measuring contest where the most ticket stubs wins, then?  I was not aware.

OK, well, in that case...I went on 11.26.2011.  Axl came out at a little after 11PM and they played for 3 hours.  I had a good time.

And I guess that concludes my presentation.

Wow. Aren't we sensitive? It's unfortunate that I can't even start a thread about something simple as this without you getting all worked up over it.

No, not at all. Nowhere did I claim it was a contest about how many shows you went to. Just curious to hear about fellow fans experiences during the tour and trying to have a fun lighthearted discussion about those experiences. Everybody seems to remember and experience different things at the shows.


So that's what you remember from the one show you attended? Were you tired the next day? Did you like that venue? How was your seat? Did you get any merch? How was the beer? Did you see any drunks? Favorite part of the show? Did you catch the opening act?


When looking back at the tour as a whole, I can only support my views based on youtube clips and the DVD as I only saw 2 shows – the first two in Europe, Bergen and Oslo. Going only by that, I feel it's still a ride I've participated in. Don't underestimate the thrill of a good update thread!  ;)

The concerts I was at - killer shows! The only small gripe I had after seeing back to back shows like that was that the setlist was pretty much identical. Not a big deal really, as there were two different atmospheres and the experience became pretty different.

It's not "only two shows". A bunch of fans would love to see one! :)

Oslo was cool. Same venue as in 2006. I went to that one (2010) and didn't even get a hotel room. Spent the night waiting for my early morning bus at the train station....  :hihi:

By the way, the solo Dizzy played there is a song by Warren Zevon. Unfortunately I can't place the other one you asked about..... Haha.


/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Spirit on May 19, 2015, 01:00:53 PM

It's not "only two shows". A bunch of fans would love to see one! :)



It wasn't meant to sound trivializing, I'm super happy to have had the opportunity. It was just put in the context of the amount of shows in the complete tour and I feel that following the shows on the internet is also part of the experience. It's a good second option to me.  : ok:



By the way, the solo Dizzy played there is a song by Warren Zevon. Unfortunately I can't place the other one you asked about..... Haha.



Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner, one of the better solos by Dizzy. He played it in Bergen as well.  :)



I remember Dj playing a small snippet of Hall of the Mountain King in Oslo, the audience loved that.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 01:16:38 PM

So that's what you remember from the one show you attended? Were you tired the next day? Did you like that venue? How was your seat? Did you get any merch? How was the beer? Did you see any drunks? Favorite part of the show? Did you catch the opening act?


Wish I did catch the opening act, actually.  I hung out in the lobby talking to people. 

It was The Pretty Reckless, who I wound up seeing open for Manson 6 months later.  And I thought they were solid and she was great.

Best part of the show was 'Estranged'. 

As for the venue, it would be my ideal place to see this particular band.  Big, wide open lobby to hang out in and get some drinks while Axl does god knows what backstage.  Sure beats sitting is a seat and looking at your watch.

Then, when the lights go out, you can pop right out of the lobby and into your seat.  If they ever do come back this way, I hope its Camden and not actual Philly, for that reason.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 02:00:18 PM
I believe that was one of the few "sheds" on that tour.
I do prefer arenas though...

It started getting chilly during that time on the East Coast...  :hihi:




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 02:02:04 PM

It started getting chilly during that time on the East Coast...  :hihi:


Hahaha.

No, it was flat out cold.  And the parking there is a hike.  It was a chilly walk back at 2:30 AM.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 02:05:32 PM
I thought I had enough layers with me to manage, but once we got to the East Coast, I had to get a thicker jacket.
The tour started in Florida and I recall there being a thunderstorm. Then a few weeks later freezing temperatures on the East Coast.



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 04:26:08 PM
Monton in 2010 was an interesting show, the arena ceiling wasn't high enough so the stage had to be modified, great small crowd.

Moncton!
Talking of chilly places....



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: EmilyGNR on May 19, 2015, 05:12:23 PM
My favorite Gigs I have gone to were the 02 shows in London in 2010, and Several of the shows in NYC from different years both large and small.

I enjoyed the convienience of both Vegas residencies, because you can attend multiple shows without relocating.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: JAEBALL on May 19, 2015, 05:21:00 PM
My favorite show was during the first residency. I was there on my birthday and there was a lot of space right next to the stage under those bridges Axl would sing on. So it wasn't too uncomfortable or claustrophobic for me.

I'm also a Vegas junkie , so seeing Axl perform there so close to the stage on my birthday is just about a dream scenario.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Yeah. Seeing GN'R on your birthday is pretty cool.....

 :beer:



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: D-GenerationX on May 19, 2015, 06:08:57 PM

My favorite show was during the first residency. I was there on my birthday and there was a lot of space right next to the stage under those bridges Axl would sing on. So it wasn't too uncomfortable or claustrophobic for me.

I'm also a Vegas junkie , so seeing Axl perform there so close to the stage on my birthday is just about a dream scenario.


Yeah, that sounds pretty awesome.

I had front row seats to see Alice Cooper in Vegas on my actual birthday, and it was a blast.

But if it were Axl, I'd have been over the moon.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 19, 2015, 06:14:21 PM
If anybody ever happens to be on holidays or just traveling in a different country or even city, and GN'R is playing, go see the show.

It's funny how different places have different vibes.
Even the same cities but different week days.... And seasons of course.

You gotta love the guys who tailgate in November for example!
But it's the only time they get to see GN'R that year, so why the hell not!  : ok:



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Spirit on May 19, 2015, 06:19:18 PM
For the people who attended 2 or more festivals during this tour, were the crowds much different in terms of support for GN'R?


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jazjme on May 19, 2015, 08:05:43 PM
If anybody ever happens to be on holidays or just traveling in a different country or even city, and GN'R is playing, go see the show.

It's funny how different places have different vibes.
Even the same cities but different week days.... And seasons of course.

You gotta love the guys who tailgate in November for example!
But it's the only time they get to see GN'R that year, so why the hell not!  : ok:



/jarmo

First show of many for me on that list was Nov 17, 2011 at Izod. Hung out with sexkitten, and yes tailgated!! Chatted with a ton of people many from the forum. Went in and got to the rail left of center,

before the opener, and pretty much was planted there for 8 hrs.Between bands I made a mission to get us beers, which meant I had to go all the way in back of the floor, out the doors, to the beer stand. I

made it back beers in hand to rail, I might of pissed of about 20 people, but fuck em, I was already up there!! HA  Great show , first ones I think since the Hammerstein shows for me. I could hardly walk

after. But after the show we went backstage,(thanks for the passes Jarmo, :D). Mingled with other fans, Frank and Dizzy and Ron stopped in, chatted , signed things, took pics. There was two big coolers

one with an assortment of beers, the other with vodka and mixers. We realized we missed the last buses, and trains back to NYC. So stuck in bum fuck east Rutherford!!! But Coti came to the rescue, he

was hanging out backstage and gave us a ride back into midtown, where sexkitten and I took our respective subways home. I crawled into my apartment a little after 6am, GOOD TIMES!! MANY MORE STORIES AND SHOWS YET TO GIVE ACCOUNTS!!


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: faldor on May 19, 2015, 10:09:00 PM
If anybody ever happens to be on holidays or just traveling in a different country or even city, and GN'R is playing, go see the show.

It's funny how different places have different vibes.
Even the same cities but different week days.... And seasons of course.

You gotta love the guys who tailgate in November for example!
But it's the only time they get to see GN'R that year, so why the hell not!  : ok:



/jarmo
Yeah, it was quite chilly my last GNR show 11/19/11 in Hartford. We tailgated though. A few beers warms you up just fine. Plus I'm accustomed to cold weather tailgating for Patriots games.

I bought 10 tickets for the show and found enough takers, so we had quite the crew for that show. It was awesome. We initially bought seats, but decided to try standing room instead. I ended up about 10' from the stage or so. Closest I've ever been at any concert, so that was a huge bonus. They went on late, around midnight, and they played their asses off until the wee hours of the morning. It was a Saturday, so the crowd wasn't up in arms. Axl sounded great that night and they played a lengthy set. The only negative was they weren't playing "Civil War" yet at that time. Other than that though, we got them all. Well, no TWAT either. Also, as great as standing room was, my legs were feeling it by the end of the night and the next day. But it was well worth it!

Can't wait to do it again sometime.

Here's "Estranged" from that night.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VKB9GmxgraM


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: TheBaconman on May 19, 2015, 10:10:30 PM
That Canadian tour in 2010 was epic.   I was able to catch 4 shows.  Winnipeg Saskatchewan Calgary and Edmonton.   Greta great shows to great crowds

I sure hope I get to see another Canadian tour one day


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 20, 2015, 02:43:52 AM
Nice stories.

Thanks for sharing. :)



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: italian queen on May 20, 2015, 04:12:25 AM
I was in Rome...
..an unforgettable night!!  :love:
even if the Arena was too hot and the show started 2 hours late.
I enjoyed it very very much!! I should have some pics at home....


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 20, 2015, 11:37:32 AM
Rome, hot venue and amazing crowd.



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: nick6sic6 on May 20, 2015, 04:52:38 PM
I remember the 2010 show in Serbia,seemed sold out.Belgrade's Partizan home basketball court,about 20k people.If some tickets were unsold,it was only a handfull left.
That was one cold and chilly night,even on September.Whole lotta rosie was imo the highlight.
I can't say i enjoyed the Basel show in 2012,i had to leave during Nov.Rain to catch the last bus to the airport.
I was amazed though by the amount of merchandise in that venue.Not half of what was there made it to Bulgaria.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: rebelhipi on May 20, 2015, 06:23:24 PM
I saw one show in Helsinki.

one day before the show, a almost 15 year old myself decided to hit the town with my chinese booklet and a marker, just in case if see someone interesting on my way to the market near the harbour.
Well a saw a bunch of gnr fans waiting for gnr people in front of the classiest hotel in town. i desided to join them, much to my surprise and joy, i saw Malcolm Angus and Phil Rudd from AC/DC.  Also i saw and briefly met, Ashba and Dizzy. :D All in a couple hours. I remember seeing Del James too.

Then the next day it was graduation day for that year in school. I left in the middle of  my main teachers farewell speech to catch Bumblefoots meet and greet. That made me feel badass as hell. ;D I wish i had own a camera back then...

I arrived to the gig just before the second to last opening act finished. And the i got a place right in the middle second row, lucky me. Skunk Anansie was next which played a very good set.
Well all i can say it was awesome. Still my favourite gig ive been to.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Conan on May 21, 2015, 09:15:01 AM
I saw the show in Arnhem, Oct 3, on my way from Amsterdam to Berlin. With an ex-girlfriend's brother who whinged the whole time about it not being the real GNR without Slash, but then had a great time when he actually saw the show.

I saw the show in Sydney on December 4, at the V8's with a mate who is a massive Cure fan and was never in to GNR (but loves live music) went and enjoyed the show enormously. I wouldn't say he was a complete convert after this but he'll tell anyone how good they were live that night.

Went to the Brisbane show in March 2013, with my brother. Both masssive fans and had a great night!

Thanks Axl, et al for the shows. Hope to see you guys again (at a show...) soon.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: JAEBALL on May 21, 2015, 09:23:45 AM
I saw the show in Arnhem, Oct 3, on my way from Amsterdam to Berlin. With an ex-girlfriend's brother who whinged the whole time about it not being the real GNR without Slash, but then had a great time when he actually saw the show.

I saw the show in Sydney on December 4, at the V8's with a mate who is a massive Cure fan and was never in to GNR (but loves live music) went and enjoyed the show enormously. I wouldn't say he was a complete convert after this but he'll tell anyone how good they were live that night.

Went to the Brisbane show in March 2013, with my brother. Both masssive fans and had a great night!

Thanks Axl, et al for the shows. Hope to see you guys again (at a show...) soon.

Other than Vegas... I also went to the Izod Center with three buddies... all just casual fans and couldn't name any CD songs if their life depended on it... so it was more just of a night out ... we got so drunk in the parking lot that by the time the first guitar solo hit we went upstairs from the floor so we can lay out lol (it was pretty much empty up there).

I was also fortunate enough to go to Terminal 5 and Roseland Ballroom on the UCAP tour. Went by myself to those. Those were fun too.

Interesting enough the same kids who opened for Axl at terminal 5 also opened for Slash when I saw him there a couple of weeks ago. They must be a go to group for that venue. They were really good, the name slips my mind at the moment.





Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jazjme on May 21, 2015, 12:44:28 PM
I saw the show in Arnhem, Oct 3, on my way from Amsterdam to Berlin. With an ex-girlfriend's brother who whinged the whole time about it not being the real GNR without Slash, but then had a great time when he actually saw the show.

I saw the show in Sydney on December 4, at the V8's with a mate who is a massive Cure fan and was never in to GNR (but loves live music) went and enjoyed the show enormously. I wouldn't say he was a complete convert after this but he'll tell anyone how good they were live that night.

Went to the Brisbane show in March 2013, with my brother. Both masssive fans and had a great night!

Thanks Axl, et al for the shows. Hope to see you guys again (at a show...) soon.

Other than Vegas... I also went to the Izod Center with three buddies... all just casual fans and couldn't name any CD songs if their life depended on it... so it was more just of a night out ... we got so drunk in the parking lot that by the time the first guitar solo hit we went upstairs from the floor so we can lay out lol (it was pretty much empty up there).

I was also fortunate enough to go to Terminal 5 and Roseland Ballroom on the UCAP tour. Went by myself to those. Those were fun too.

Interesting enough the same kids who opened for Axl at terminal 5 also opened for Slash when I saw him there a couple of weeks ago. They must be a go to group for that venue. They were really good, the name slips my mind at the moment.




 

Unlocking the Truth, I believe they are , I also was at Roseland GNR and Terminal 5 for Slash.

 Before the UCAP tour, I had gone to see the Compulsions, after that show, a friend of mine gave Richard a ride back to his hotel and me back to Broklyn, during that car ride he said it was confirmed for the

UCAP tour , this was about 3 weeks before they happened and before it was officially announced, so I had a heads up. I bought tix for all three shows, Roseland Terminal 5 and The Ritz,. Roseland was insane, completely oversold, it was packed!!

Was such a great time, was great to hear UTLH, and Your Crazy, there, plenty of Chinese. I had a great spot on the fl and completely was wrecked after, I have terrible ankles and feet, I could hardly walk after, when the terminal 5 show came up I begrudgingly decided I was not going to do that show cause it would be like death for me to try to even get to the RItz,

 I needed to be off my feet. So I sold my tix to  friend and forum member, met him at a bar near the venue, had a few beers, and walked to the venue, then home. Good thing cause I was def ready for the RItz, a special show, brought me back to when I saw them back in the day  at the famous MTV recorded show.

Before the show, I met up with a bunch of friends, and fellow forum members, Sexkitten included! ANd we pre-partied at the bar across the street, we waited till almost midnight before even entering, as we were waiting outside Axl pulled up in his SUV and jumped out and went into the back stage door.

 He took some pics, we went in, and still found a great spot on the floor. IT was fucking electric the atmosphere. Not more than 10 mins that Axl came out of the SUV, he was onstage and killing it. The band was on a whole different level . Another rocking out show that let me wrecked but in such a good way. I practically crawled to the subway after, to go home.

I would next go to see them in Vegas for 2 shows that year, Nov 9th And tenth, my first time at the Joint, And the entire experience was insane, I absolutely love seeing GNR there, the sound in that place is incredible, the whole casino decked out in GNR stuff, and memorabilia. Hanging out at the circle bar, meeting GNR fans from all over, with the common goal of enjoying a great band in a great venue was just a fantastic time.

Next up Brooklyn Bowl 2013,   this was a complete surprise for me, I had no idea I was even gonna be able to go, but 2 great friends of mine, offered me a tix, to go with them and of course I jumped at it. Talk about intimate venue , insane, we found a place right up on the stage on the left side.

The stage not being that high , and so small was incredible as the guys worked it from one side to the other, aside from Axls "truckstop revenge", which I found quite funny, he sounded awesome, I always like Your Crazy opening a show.

 By the end during PC, at one point DJ was literally sitting on my shoulder while he was doing the outro soloing. It was insane. I have to say that this show was the shortest I remember going to out of close to 30 shows since 87. But it surely didn't lack  any excitement or energy.

Finally I got to go back to Vegas, I as already in California, for a month on vacation, my cousin and I drove out to Vegas, to see the show May 21st 2014, there I made plans to meet up with some forum guys I have always chatted with but never to to meet at any show yet,while there waiting for my friends I saw jarmo said hello, he was hella crazy busy haha, so not much time to talk. I met up with the guys I was meeting at the Hard Rock, immediately bonded, had some drinks, and then the mission was to get them tix, as they didn't have any yet.

Even though they both wound up going to every show of that residency.ha ,lol  So we hunted turned down some prospects, then one of them saw Ferando. Don't know what was said, but then we went to the backstage door, and hung out there.

While waiting , Tommy and a GF I suppose came up we said hello had a lil chat, they went inside. Then a short while later, a women, with a cloths rack came up with Axl jackets on it and went in. Then a short while after that Del James came out, and saw my friend, the one with the Axl Rose Tat , literally where Axl signed his arm he had tattooed. He waked us in through the backstage door, right up to the floor and said enjoy the show and walked away.All I was thinking was why the hell did I buy a tix,lol But no worries I have that entire ticket still unripped, and you needed one to go from the fl to the bathrooms, and back anyway.

Had a huge blast when the lights went out again, Prostitute was def a highlight for me. I think after all the shows I was at since 06 I got to hear pretty much every song live at one point or show during this run save for maybe 2 and definitely never Rhyad. After the show was an adventure. Hung out at the circle bar, DJ was hanging out there, chilling with his then Gf now wife. The guys from the opening band were hanging out. They really rocked . We wound up going up to a hotel room and partying with those guys and some others. Good time.

After my friend had let my cousin and I spend the morning at his house, to sleep before we woke up some hrs later, to do the drive back to Cali. Was definitely a awesome experience, and now I am jonesing for another show. Every show I ever was at, was always memorable fun, exciting and sometimes a mission. 

 
Edit to add some pics from the madness!

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Brooklyn Bowl
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Brooklyn Bowl
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Vegas 2012
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HTGTH gang pre Ritz
(http://s10.postimg.org/mm2uw0tjt/Me_and_DJ_2012_1.jpg)
Vegas2012
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Vegas 2014
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Ritz
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Roseland
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Ritz
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Vegas 2012
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Vegas 2012


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: russkwtx on May 21, 2015, 11:51:44 PM
I don't have any photos to share, but I saw them seven times during that timeframe and loved every show. The ones that stand out were the 12.31.11 and the 6.6.14 shows. Luckily, Axl sounded great each time I saw him. I also liked the Oklahoma show on 11.9.2011. In general I feel very fortunate to have been able to see the band. Oh, I was also at the show on November 21 2012 when they taped the show and it turned into the DVD release, so that was pretty cool too.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: JMB-GNR on May 22, 2015, 04:19:18 AM
I saw them twice in 2010 (Antwerp & Arnhem) and twice in 2012 (Rotterdam & M?nchengladbach).

The 2010 concerts seem to be a bit stronger because Axl was in really good shape. Maybe the memories of those shows are also better because it was the first hearing songs like Sorry, This I Love and Shackler's Revenge live.

I loved the 2012 shows because of Estranged and Civil War in the setlist. M?nchengladbach was very cool because it was outdoors and that always gives it a special vibe. And during November Rain is started pouring rain :)


At all concerts Axl sounded great and the live experience CANNOT be compared to the YouTube experience. Especially in 2012 I listened closely to how Axl sounded because of all the bitchin' about his voice and it was really good!


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: mortismurphy on May 22, 2015, 11:07:40 PM
Really? I saw Guns live in 2012 and I watched the youtube clips and I found the technology loosely capable of rendering an accurate live rendition of the events in question. It is a video and mic recording the event at the end of the day.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jazjme on May 22, 2015, 11:28:54 PM
Different kinds of mics , work differently, your sure as hell aren't gonna get quality audio off a phone, or pad etc.You do know something about audio engineering? if you did this is pretty simple.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: mortismurphy on May 23, 2015, 07:19:17 AM
Yes but as long as you factor in the fact that you have knowledge of the limitations of the technology, I do not understand how these clips are rendering different quality performances. I saw him live on 2012 and have seen a few clips from the other dates on that tour, and I do not see the discrepancy. If somebody said to me, ''is that what that tour is like?'' I would say, ''yes, that is what it is like'' - obviously, at a much lower volume, more treble, without the ambiance. The equipment can only record what is there in front of it.

Axl sounded absolutely fantastic on the 2006 tour and the clips show that. I also saw that tour and when I look at the clips, it reminds me of how Axl sounded on that tour. It is that simple really.



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 23, 2015, 01:22:51 PM
Do you have anything of value to add or are you just gonna post about YouTube versus the real thing?


/jarmo




Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: mortismurphy on May 24, 2015, 09:41:01 AM
Do you have anything of value to add or are you just gonna post about YouTube versus the real thing?


/jarmo




I don't know - have you anything of value to add?


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 24, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
I started the thread.

So yeah, you might as well quit while you're still here.


Thanks for sharing your stories! :)


/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 25, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
Oh, I was also at the show on November 21 2012 when they taped the show and it turned into the DVD release, so that was pretty cool too.

Cool. It's nice to have that release as a "souvenir" from the show you attended. :)



/jarmo



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: HBK on May 25, 2015, 12:24:42 PM
Amazing Tour !!!

 :beer:


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 26, 2015, 07:32:33 PM
I remember the 2010 Chile show was weeks after the earthquake had hit.

And in Rio there was a storm that blew part of the stage down.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Nightrain7 on May 26, 2015, 10:25:56 PM
GN'R 2010  V8'S ANZ Stadium Sydney,
Was the greatest concert i have ever been to. Massive crowd, Axl hit the stage at 8.30pm and was in the greatest form i have ever seen him. Absolutely mesmerizing.

First time hearing the Democracy songs. This I Love was so intense very surreal.
During Dont Cry it started raining, i remember me and my mates wrapped our arms around each others shoulders swaying along singing our hearts out, was an amazing moment.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: HBK on May 27, 2015, 01:00:50 AM
I remember the 2010 Chile show was weeks after the earthquake had hit.

And in Rio there was a storm that blew part of the stage down.




/jarmo


You First Time Chile J, Amazing

 : ok:


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jazjme on May 27, 2015, 10:39:38 AM
THat was bit of a scary situation , glad that the band wasn't on at the time or anything.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: sandman83 on May 27, 2015, 03:12:13 PM
I went to the concert in Nashville, TN December 4th, 2011.  It's the only Gn'R concert that I have been fortunate enough to go to.  I was so pumped and dead center up front of stage.  Awesome concert and the band sounded great.  Axl was cool as hell and sounded amazing.  Many highlights from that night, but I about shit my pants when they played Civil War!!  First time played by current band and it was epic.  I felt pretty blessed to witness that GNR history in person!  I knew the people on this site would be excited!  That was an awesome experience and hope they play close enough that I can go again some day!


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: TheBaconman on May 27, 2015, 10:09:24 PM
Is this all like sorta saying good by to a timeline in guns history?

Why did topic have to be so lineup specific




Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: Boromir on May 28, 2015, 07:32:55 AM
I've attended to the 3 following shows

September 23rd, 2010 - Belgrade, Serbia @ Beogradska Arena
June 8th, 2012 - M?nchengladbach, Germany @ Warsteiner Hockeypark
July 8th, 2012 - Sofia, Bulgaria @ Vasil Levski National Stadium (Sofia Rocks 2012)

The first one was an incredible show, whole band on fire, Axl on great mood.
Second show was really good, started rainning in the middle of November Rain throughout the show. I Enjoyed it very much although i was waaay back in the crowd.
The third was a special one. It was a 3h 10m show, the band gave everything they had and later on i had the chance to meet the band backstage and get to sit with a little group of people next to Axl in his room.

Thank you GUNS N' ROSES for all the memories!  :peace:


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 28, 2015, 11:32:53 AM
Why did topic have to be so lineup specific

Because it was the latest tour.



/jarmo



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: reayj2003 on May 31, 2015, 06:36:28 AM
One year ago today! Vegas show with Duff. The perfect last "Chinese Era" show for me. I was 30 last year and the Vegas trip was a great celebration. Did 12 shows in period between 2009-2014. (Bergen, London O2, Birmingham, Manchester in 2010 Liverpool, Newcastle, Glasgow & 2 London shows in 2012 & 3 Vegas shows in 2014). Met Axl after June 1st show 2012 which was a brilliant moment.

My favorite Video (Check out Axl at 2:33)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaC4hq0EgCY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaC4hq0EgCY)

The Joint!
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/38986059-8878-4d84-aa1d-317531cac148.jpg)

Love this design
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/10303956_10154265643240002_6239708946954956862_n_1.jpg)

(The Front Row Gang)
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/4058549e-962e-433a-9427-0a68a86bda86.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/GNR%20%20Duff/03c511fb-7280-4784-838c-6616fb66596c.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/GNR%20%20Duff/8e11fb30-ebde-4840-9e35-527f82bc894f.jpg)

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(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/GNR%20%20Duff/d1dc57cf-658a-4df0-b46b-b1371ee08e82.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/GNR%20%20Duff/d044abdb-15cc-40f6-b287-45033bac8763.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/GNR%20%20Duff/07aec8da-a428-4741-b602-425ad9359fb2.jpg)

VIP Glasgow 2012 - taken by Jarmo
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/39c58dc8-9ee8-4a08-9c13-ce6128483a43.jpg)

Mr Stradlin 1/6/12
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/82a62526-46e4-41e6-b8bb-6d125a8e4e5c.jpg)

Mr Rose 2/6/2012
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/2274bfd3-8bb7-4f4f-bbb7-c6eb7e6c99c6.jpg)

A4 poster signed by the band at Newcastle 23rd May 2012
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/ef091257-9fd0-4664-9da6-cc81a53d069b.jpg)

30th "GN'R" Bday cake!
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/882eb710-6958-4088-a311-deecd45625bc.jpg)


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: reayj2003 on May 31, 2015, 09:34:29 AM
Another big highlight for me was winning kerrang's air guitar video competition where I was awarded a GN?R party at the Boarderline London for myself and friends and I was crowned the first owner of the album in the UK. I remember my copy being delivered early on the Sunday morning by a courier and it was snowing...Christmas really had come early!

The video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0OTvKBqCug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0OTvKBqCug)

My pride & joy hanging on the wall

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/20a56ee5-e815-4cd6-85ec-18aaafd21c18.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/34632feb-2aa5-4b1d-a2ac-3229f0d24336.jpg)

The KFC bucket used in the video went on an interesting journey during the amazing 2010 O2 London show...

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/c3df0709-4b09-4349-aa84-ae51e4334d13.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/e8632d0c-fe25-41cc-b208-6acdaa666ff1.jpg)

I've still got it !

It's been an amazing Seven years following my favorite band. Fingers crossed we'll all get to do it again!

Manchester 2010
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/GNR%20Manchester/7a53283d-b689-48d0-a1d4-b9a86e00f596.jpg)


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on May 31, 2015, 01:14:15 PM
Very cool!
Thanks for sharing.  : ok:


/jarmo



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: reayj2003 on May 31, 2015, 01:39:56 PM
Here's a clip of "You Could Be Mine" from the May 28th Vegas show. I opted for the seating area at that show as i'd just arrived from London.

Axl sounded and looked great on this song! The Bandanna & shades look is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HH8kNwbjNY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HH8kNwbjNY&feature=youtu.be)

Edit: Sorry it's shaky, the drinks girl kept me well watered which on top of major jet lag made me a little dazed.

If you ain't done GN'R in Vegas & the chance comes around again- GO! It feels like a holiday resort run by Uncle Axl.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: WAR41 on May 31, 2015, 02:58:46 PM
That 12.07.2010 concert from Adelaide is also pretty solid.

That's the one the guys at MYGNR put up on Youtube.  Good show worth checking out.

So your tour memories are based on Youtube clips?
To be honest, that wasn't really what I had in mind by starting the topic.
See AdZ's post above for examples. :)

But yeah, I get that Youtube is popular and all... But maybe there's more memories than "I saw the show on Youtube and Axl sounded great"... :)



/jarmo

I have had my reviews deleted before and I was in attendance for the shows.  I thought the East Rutherford show was great as I had purposely not read any setlists or watched new show clips on social media for years leading up to it.  I wanted to be surprised at the setlist when I finally saw the band again and although a lot of it was the same from 2006, I did have a good time.  If you go back and read my show review at that time I believe I first mentioned my hatred of DJ Ashba as a performer which continues to this day. 

The Up Close and Personal NYC shows were a bore for the most part.  The Ritz show was cool, they played some other songs they didn't play previously, but the setlist was pretty much the same throughout all 4 of those shows.  It was because of the predictable setlist that I skipped the Brooklyn Bowl and Randall's Island shows. 

If/when this band switches it up I will consider attending shows again, but I am tired of paying money for a performance I've seen several times before. 


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: reayj2003 on May 31, 2015, 03:09:49 PM
Wow, War41 thanks for the input!


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: russkwtx on May 31, 2015, 11:56:08 PM
True, the core of the set list did not change much, but I feel very fortunate to hear many of my all time favorites during the time period, some gems that were not played that often: nice boys, yesterdays, TWAT, out to get me, civil war, some others I can't recall right now. The only significant song that I would like to hear from days past that I have not heard live is down on the farm. Other than that, I think the band did a really good job mixing in some oldies and rarities while also playing the faves that the casual fan came to see. I don't have a problem at all with the set list, and again, I feel very fortunate to have been able to seen them multiple times and each time left me more impressed.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: rebelhipi on June 01, 2015, 03:42:57 AM
The set lists varied a lot compared to 2002 and 2006-07 tours.

Ithink they made agreat job mixing songs up


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: russkwtx on June 01, 2015, 02:08:48 PM
The thread is about the 2009-2014 period so my post was responding to that time frame.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: HBK on June 04, 2015, 02:51:19 PM
Another big highlight for me was winning kerrang's air guitar video competition where I was awarded a GN?R party at the Boarderline London for myself and friends and I was crowned the first owner of the album in the UK. I remember my copy being delivered early on the Sunday morning by a courier and it was snowing...Christmas really had come early!

The video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0OTvKBqCug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0OTvKBqCug)

My pride & joy hanging on the wall

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/20a56ee5-e815-4cd6-85ec-18aaafd21c18.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/34632feb-2aa5-4b1d-a2ac-3229f0d24336.jpg)

The KFC bucket used in the video went on an interesting journey during the amazing 2010 O2 London show...

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/c3df0709-4b09-4349-aa84-ae51e4334d13.jpg)

(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/e8632d0c-fe25-41cc-b208-6acdaa666ff1.jpg)

I've still got it !

It's been an amazing Seven years following my favorite band. Fingers crossed we'll all get to do it again!

Manchester 2010
(http://i1190.photobucket.com/albums/z453/reayj2003/GNR%20Manchester/7a53283d-b689-48d0-a1d4-b9a86e00f596.jpg)

This Amazing Man, Thanks !!!

 :beer:


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: fozzie10 on June 09, 2015, 07:25:41 PM
Finally got to see Guns at the Echo Arena in Liverpool on the 20th of may 2012.

Long time coming to see them but at last I did it was a lot of fun and hells teeth what a show i still think back to that night with a great deal of affection.

The heat i remember a lot i go to that arena often and i dont think i ever have been as hot as that night,the support Thin Lizzy were ok,but in fairness id seen the Phil Lynott version many moons ago so any version without him in it was never going to come up to scratch.

Best song Estranged..best song Guns ever did in my view.

Axl sounded pretty good that night his voice cracking a few times but you always felt he sung while leaving plenty in reserve in needs be.

I loved the view we had from our seat (im too old and frankly to damn cranky to be standing nowadays ive done my time in the trnches and i aint going back) we were level in the ramps that jutted out from the stage and where DJ would go and balance sit etc and while most people would ask to be moved i was more than happy to watch a big scale rock show in action from another viewpoint,time and agin we saw Axl's comings and goings to the "tent"and as the night wore on Axl would throw a smile or a little wave towards the wife and me (as in fairness did the other band members when they came over),it just added to a great night.



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on June 09, 2015, 08:58:45 PM
Liverpool was a great show as well.

Nice venue in a pretty cool location!


Wow, you saw Thin Lizzy with Phil! Old school! :D



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: fozzie10 on June 10, 2015, 07:28:50 PM
Liverpool was a great show as well.

Nice venue in a pretty cool location!


Wow, you saw Thin Lizzy with Phil! Old school! :D



/jarmo


Old school hehe aye i am that i suppose i saw Thin Lizzy at liverpool empire in 1979 aged a mere 13 years old,i went with my big sister who was well into the band back then,i was more into punk/new wave than metal but Lizzy were a fine band to see live noisy and hot i seem to recall the show.

As for the Echo Arena it is a fine venue but one that struggles to get metal acts,when i saw Guns were playing there it was a given i would be going (i had waited far too long to see them in fairness),but only yesterday Motley crue announced the birtish tour and yet again Liverpool missed out and im not sure why it struggles so much to get less "mainstream" music it annoys me too.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on June 11, 2015, 10:21:11 AM
Yes, I was surprised and happy to see GN'R hit Liverpool in addition to Manchester and Birmingham. Seems like Birmingham is the most obvious choice of those three for shows.



/jarmo



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: reayj2003 on June 11, 2015, 03:21:41 PM
They did Nottingham & Newcastle as well. That's pretty rare. What a great time!


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on August 09, 2015, 04:42:31 PM
As a Formula 1 fan, the March 2013 tour was quite special.

The shows in Melbourne were quite close to the F1 track, so Iyou could hear the cars from the venue.... And then the show in Malaysia was after the race. Got to see a race live and then GN'R. Very cool.




/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: brazil66 on August 09, 2015, 11:08:04 PM
Jarmo...Thanks for posting this. Wow Gnr have toured a lot...they deserve th?ir break.

Montr?al was sp?cial in 2010. Axl and the band were on fire and had something to proove. Enjoyed the song Sorry that night. Axl picked up some injuries as h? needed physical therapy for the next night in Toronto.... that gig was special. i enjoyed meeting some really cool fans before in a bar..derby Greg, Jos?e evita, sex kitten and a few others...Worst part was walking down to the gig w?th Jarmo and adz  :hihi:

Enjoyed the terminal 5 gig too as brought my wife for the first Time and she lov?d it...that night GNR played over 3 hours...got there late...really surprised gnr did ther ucap gigs after the arena tour...met del for the first Time as i Walked in and asked If there more ucap dates after New york. H? said no..the follwing week gnr announced further dates...lol

There has been others but th?se have been the Two highlights for various reasons.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: brazil66 on August 09, 2015, 11:13:55 PM
Yes, I was surprised and happy to see GN'R hit Liverpool in addition to Manchester and Birmingham. Seems like Birmingham is the most obvious choice of those three for shows.



/jarmo


Jarmo...Birmingham is the second biggest city after London...i think after the liverpool gig axl got injured falling over and got treatment in newcastle. Love the pics which i have not seen for a while of Axl  visiting the Angel of the North.


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: rebelhipi on August 09, 2015, 11:57:55 PM
As a Formula 1 fan, the March 2013 tour was quite special.

The shows in Melbourne were quite close to the F1 track, so Iyou could hear the cars from the venue.... And then the show in Malaysia was after the race. Got to see a race live and then GN'R. Very cool.




/jarmo

Very cool indeed.
Dont tell me you didnt have a massive party after Kimi's win in Melbourne. ;)


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: LIGuns on August 10, 2015, 01:09:28 PM
Yeah, as it turns out, I wasn't *in Australia*. ::)

So, is this just supposed to be a dick measuring contest where the most ticket stubs wins, then?  I was not aware.

OK, well, in that case...I went on 11.26.2011.  Axl came out at a little after 11PM and they played for 3 hours.  I had a good time.

And I guess that concludes my presentation.
To be fair YouTube doesn't always give a fair representation of quality sound..

Wow. Aren't we sensitive? It's unfortunate that I can't even start a thread about something simple as this without you getting all worked up over it.

No, not at all. Nowhere did I claim it was a contest about how many shows you went to. Just curious to hear about fellow fans experiences during the tour and trying to have a fun lighthearted discussion about those experiences. Everybody seems to remember and experience different things at the shows.


So that's what you remember from the one show you attended? Were you tired the next day? Did you like that venue? How was your seat? Did you get any merch? How was the beer? Did you see any drunks? Favorite part of the show? Did you catch the opening act?


When looking back at the tour as a whole, I can only support my views based on youtube clips and the DVD as I only saw 2 shows ? the first two in Europe, Bergen and Oslo. Going only by that, I feel it's still a ride I've participated in. Don't underestimate the thrill of a good update thread!  ;)

The concerts I was at - killer shows! The only small gripe I had after seeing back to back shows like that was that the setlist was pretty much identical. Not a big deal really, as there were two different atmospheres and the experience became pretty different.

It's not "only two shows". A bunch of fans would love to see one! :)

Oslo was cool. Same venue as in 2006. I went to that one (2010) and didn't even get a hotel room. Spent the night waiting for my early morning bus at the train station....  :hihi:

By the way, the solo Dizzy played there is a song by Warren Zevon. Unfortunately I can't place the other one you asked about..... Haha.


/jarmo



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: LIGuns on August 10, 2015, 01:21:24 PM
I remember chiming in on the monorail after the 2000/2001 HOB show how incredible it was seeing GN'R in a club venue..Little did I know this would be something they would venture to on rare occasions as warmups, mini-tours, residencies and private parties...B-foots first show was special, the Up Close N' Personal show at the Roseland might be my favorite due to all the stadium sized production in a small club atmosphere or perhaps the Brooklyn Bowl show for the rawness and intimacy of a sold out 600 plus capacity crowd...But I also the the feeling A multi thousand arena crowd feeding out of Axl's hands for 2-3 hours!


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on August 10, 2015, 02:27:50 PM
Brooklyn Bowl was a nice contrast to the gigs in Buffalo and at Governors Ball.



/jarmo


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: brazil66 on August 10, 2015, 10:21:11 PM
Buffalo was cold and windy. Met some great people there to. Axl was in good from cracking jokes all night...even about elfs :rofl: jarmo you took that one well...lov?d nightrain that night...


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: OscarAxl22 on August 10, 2015, 11:59:55 PM
I have a picture from a concert thats on my phone and im fairly sure that Jarmo is in it.  :D


Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on August 11, 2015, 04:37:22 AM
Buffalo was cold and windy. Met some great people there to. Axl was in good from cracking jokes all night...even about elfs :rofl: jarmo you took that one well...lov?d nightrain that night...

Cold like a Scandinavian summer.....  :hihi:



/jarmo



Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: brazil66 on August 12, 2015, 02:47:42 AM
Buffalo was cold and windy. Met some great people there to. Axl was in good from cracking jokes all night...even about elfs :rofl: jarmo you took that one well...lov?d nightrain that night...

Cold like a Scandinavian summer.....  :hihi:



/jarmo



Lol...




Title: Re: 2009-2014 Tour Flashback
Post by: jarmo on October 07, 2015, 04:19:38 PM
Here's a Google Map of the dates: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=z0LtWqIU0ud8.kYbSS4q8JIT4&hl=en




/jarmo