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Title: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: pilferk on March 18, 2015, 08:39:32 AM
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-live-radio-broadcasts/

Anyone else hear about this?  I might actually pick this up, but this line in the article give me pause:

"It should be noted that the band itself hasn?t confirmed any involvement with this release, which makes its legality somewhat questionable"



Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: jarmo on March 18, 2015, 08:54:53 AM
Sounds like a bootleg.



/jarmo


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: pilferk on March 18, 2015, 08:57:38 AM
Sounds like a bootleg.



/jarmo


Pretty much, but it looks like it was taken directly from the source audio and "officially" released by "someone".

I can't find any more info on the album release, so I can't find the "official" publisher/responsible entity. Edit: Looks like it's "Bandana Records", whoever they are.

It MAY be "legit", in that one of the large radio outlets was the master carrier (like Westwood One) at the time, and they retained the rights to broadcast and release the material. I don't know...was wondering if anyone else had heard anything about it.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: nick6sic6 on March 18, 2015, 09:10:31 AM
Yep,bootleg.Nothing new.
Who hasn't already heard a zillion times the Ritz,Farm Aid and every other soundboard-pro shot recording there is ?
If there is cool artwork however,I'll buy it  :hihi:


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 18, 2015, 09:57:16 AM

Who hasn't already heard a zillion times the Ritz,Farm Aid and every other soundboard-pro shot recording there is ?
If there is cool artwork however,I'll buy it  :hihi:


Yeah, true.

What would be wild would be if they actually released some soundboard quality version of a show that has never ben available, or only in shitty sound.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: HBK on March 18, 2015, 11:24:22 AM
Bootleg

 :hihi:


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: pilferk on March 18, 2015, 02:02:14 PM

Who hasn't already heard a zillion times the Ritz,Farm Aid and every other soundboard-pro shot recording there is ?
If there is cool artwork however,I'll buy it  :hihi:


Yeah, true.

What would be wild would be if they actually released some soundboard quality version of a show that has never ben available, or only in shitty sound.

To get that, you'd probably have to find a show that was broadcast by a third party, on either TV or radio....where the third party maintained control of the broadcast and publishing rights.  At least to get it "legally".

I'm not sure there's many of those around....


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 18, 2015, 02:04:32 PM
Most soundboard boots are just flat out stolen from the band.

I'd have to think the band has (or had at one time) some soundboard recordings that never made it out to the peeps.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: Sosso on March 18, 2015, 02:33:29 PM
AC/DC released a live album as a counterpart to the mass of bootleg in the early 90's. I think that GN'R should do the same (something like Live Era '01-'07 or Live Era '09-'14)


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: pilferk on March 18, 2015, 02:35:53 PM
Most soundboard boots are just flat out stolen from the band.

I'd have to think the band has (or had at one time) some soundboard recordings that never made it out to the peeps.

Probably....but I think it's unlikely they see release via the band, directly.

Maybe, someday...but today is not that day. Tomorrow's not looking good, either. ;)


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 18, 2015, 02:37:56 PM
AC/DC released a live album as a counterpart to the mass of bootleg in the early 90's. I think that GN'R should do the same (something like Live Era '01-'07 or Live Era '09-'14)

That AC/DC live album is great.  The sound is awesome on that thing.

Can't say I have the same confidence in a similar GNR offering considering how much they fucked with the live album they did give us.  That sucker should have come with a sticker : ONLY BUY IF YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD A BOOTLEG, EVER


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 18, 2015, 02:38:44 PM

Probably....but I think it's unlikely they see release via the band, directly.

Maybe, someday...but today is not that day. Tomorrow's not looking good, either. ;)


Oh, no way that's happening.

He's going to release some concert from 1992?  Not bloody likely.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: Spirit on March 18, 2015, 02:51:57 PM

Probably....but I think it's unlikely they see release via the band, directly.

Maybe, someday...but today is not that day. Tomorrow's not looking good, either. ;)


Oh, no way that's happening.

He's going to release some concert from 1992?  Not bloody likely.


This is something that realistically could happen the day Axl decides to retire from Guns (hopefully many, many years from now).


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: draguns on March 18, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
Pilfrek, I posted it on the other thread regarding online slot machine.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: EmilyGNR on March 18, 2015, 08:31:49 PM
I wouldn't buy this on principal alone, doesn't seem legal.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: Ja5oN on March 18, 2015, 09:34:25 PM
They JUST released the Live Vegas 2012 CDs.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: EmilyGNR on March 18, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
They JUST released the Live Vegas 2012 CDs.

"They" UMG released Appetite for Democracy, this Bootleg thing is supposedly being released by "Bandana Records".

Sounds shady.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: TheBaconman on March 18, 2015, 11:46:13 PM
I wouldn't buy this on principal alone, doesn't seem legal.

Oh baby.....    I have been bad


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: TheBaconman on March 18, 2015, 11:47:14 PM
AC/DC released a live album as a counterpart to the mass of bootleg in the early 90's. I think that GN'R should do the same (something like Live Era '01-'07 or Live Era '09-'14)

That AC/DC live album is great.  The sound is awesome on that thing.

Can't say I have the same confidence in a similar GNR offering considering how much they fucked with the live album they did give us.  That sucker should have come with a sticker : ONLY BUY IF YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD A BOOTLEG, EVER

Let me guess.   You have heard a bootleg.   

Gawd

Enough


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: raindogs70 on March 19, 2015, 12:25:07 AM
Unless there's some sort of loophole they have with it being a radio broadcast (these shows were broadcast in England?), I'd be surprised if it gets released.




Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: hunter80 on March 19, 2015, 01:23:25 AM
Something like this would make a cool release from GNR if it was official. Bootlegs are neat but the quality is never what you would like. I would rather see a Ritz cd and bluray combo myself all remastered and hyped up by GNR for an anniversary celebration or something. Same goes for anything from the Illusion era concerts. It is beyond overdue. I see all of this happening years from now... I am a huge GNR and Axl supporter but I honestly think the catalogue and material in the vault would be better handled by someone else to oversee. It isn't about money or supporting the old line up at all it is just seriously good stuff that is overdue for remastering and deluxe edition treatment.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: mortismurphy on March 19, 2015, 05:48:35 AM
There is a loop hole. They have been releasing quasi-bootleg stuff for years.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guns-Roses-Live-New-York/dp/B001L1H1O0/ref=sr_1_5?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1426758190&sr=1-5&keywords=guns+n%27+roses

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guns-Roses-Special-Aerosmith-Kravitz/dp/B0060UC0AM/ref=sr_1_7?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1426758190&sr=1-7&keywords=guns+n%27+roses


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: jarmo on March 19, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
Yeah. There's a bunch of those bootlegs. Basically anything that was ever professionally shot.




/jarmo



Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 19, 2015, 09:31:44 AM
But the band sees no money, right?


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: jarmo on March 19, 2015, 09:38:26 AM
I don't think these companies compensate the bands. Or the companies whose property they are releasing (MTV etc.).

I don't think they paid to use the material either. I mean, if they had to pay for the rights to use it, then surely a more reputable company would've released something like the Ritz show ages ago?

But that's just my guess.




/jarmo


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 19, 2015, 10:39:20 AM
I think you are right about all that.

Which is why I never understood how Amazon allows it.  They sure wouldn't allow pirated movies to be sold.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: Ow-So7411501 on March 19, 2015, 12:11:27 PM
Technically GNR could probably sue.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: mortismurphy on March 19, 2015, 12:24:13 PM
If they are on amazon they are not technically bootlegs but unofficial releases. There is obviously some loophole in how GN'R's music is protected against such malpractices.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: jarmo on March 19, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
If they are on amazon they are not technically bootlegs but unofficial releases. There is obviously some loophole in how GN'R's music is protected against such malpractices.

Happens to most popular bands.

Look on Amazon UK for Metallica or AC/DC DVDs for example. Not all of them are official....



/jarmo


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: pilferk on March 19, 2015, 01:13:55 PM
If they are on amazon they are not technically bootlegs but unofficial releases. There is obviously some loophole in how GN'R's music is protected against such malpractices.

For the radio broadcasts, the "broadcaster" retains rights to broadcast and publication (usually). That's part of the contract the band signed allowing broadcast in the first place.

SO, it is feasible to have it be a "legit" release assuming Bandana Records (whoever the fuck they are) received permission from whoever that broadcaster was.  In the US, it's often (for older "stuff") Westwood One, for instance. 

I have no idea if thats the case for this release or not.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: italian queen on March 19, 2015, 01:37:11 PM
Will it be only for the US?
I hope not..


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: D-GenerationX on March 19, 2015, 02:58:05 PM

Will it be only for the US?
I hope not..


Well, even if it was, its not like these 2 shows are really hard to find.

And based on the tracklist, they are missing a bunch of shit anyway.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: EmilyGNR on March 19, 2015, 03:41:06 PM
From Metal Sucks-

The good news: the classic line-up of Guns N? Roses will be releasing a new album this year!!! The bad news: it won?t have any new material on it!!!
As its title suggests, Guns N? Roses Live Radio Broadcasts will feature live radio broadcasts of Guns N? Roses. Specifically, their legendary 1988 show at The Ritz in New York City, and their 1992 Rosemont Horizon in Chicago.
Truth be told, I doubt that anyone from any version of Guns N? Roses had anything to do with this: it reeks of a record label exercising their legal right to release a greatest hits package or live album without the band?s permission. (You may recall that in 2004, Axl Rose, Slash, and Duff McKagan actually did reunite? to sue Geffen for releasing just such an album.) Still, this could be fun!


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: nick6sic6 on March 20, 2015, 12:12:11 PM
What bothers me really is the headlines in various music sites...
"Classic lineup to release new album"
F@#$ off.


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: JAEBALL on March 20, 2015, 12:35:27 PM
What bothers me really is the headlines in various music sites...
"Classic lineup to release new album"
F@#$ off.

That's just to get clicks...don't let it bother ya.

Obviously nobody involved with any part of GNR's history is involved with this "release".


Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: GFortusR on April 02, 2015, 07:46:14 PM
Came across this, not sure if it's been posted here yet.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-live-radio-broadcasts/





Title: Re: New "Classic Radio Broadcasts" ('88, '92) GNR album next month?
Post by: jazjme on April 03, 2015, 12:07:21 AM
The thread already exists here  http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=66204.0