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Title: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Billo on February 11, 2015, 01:29:27 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before but why arnt the 2 Greatest Video hits DVDs  and making of videos out on  Blu-ray
as well, id love to get them :)


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 11, 2015, 08:28:41 PM
Greatest Hits DVDs? Never heard of them before... What is that?


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: mortismurphy on February 11, 2015, 08:31:03 PM
The three Making Ofs are not even out on DVD.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Billo on February 12, 2015, 04:13:38 AM
Theres one called. welcome to the videos and another called Gold.. they both have all guns music videos clips for the singles.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 12, 2015, 05:35:00 AM
Theres one called. welcome to the videos and another called Gold.. they both have all guns music videos clips for the singles.


Yeah, Welcome to the Videos. Forgot about that.

Haven't heard of the Gold DVD.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: mortismurphy on February 12, 2015, 05:36:43 AM
I suppose Welcome to the Videos does operate as a sort of 'greatest hits' dvd.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 12, 2015, 06:26:25 AM
To the original question:

I suppose there's little market for a release consisting of just music videos these days. Concerts I can understand, with home theater systems it can be an experience to watch. With music videos, I think the need is covered by the likes of youtube. People aren't popping in DVDs or Blu-rays to sit watch some music videos.

To sum up: it won't sell well.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: GNR2014 on February 12, 2015, 06:30:41 AM
To the original question:

I suppose there's little market for a release consisting of just music videos these days. Concerts I can understand, with home theater systems it can be an experience to watch. With music videos, I think the need is covered by the likes of youtube. People aren't popping in DVDs or Blu-rays to sit watch some music videos.

To sum up: it won't sell well.

More likely, it has to do with Axl's bitterness toward Slash.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 12, 2015, 06:34:37 AM
To the original question:

I suppose there's little market for a release consisting of just music videos these days. Concerts I can understand, with home theater systems it can be an experience to watch. With music videos, I think the need is covered by the likes of youtube. People aren't popping in DVDs or Blu-rays to sit watch some music videos.

To sum up: it won't sell well.

More likely, it has to do with Axl's bitterness toward Slash.

Nah, don't think this has even been on the table.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: mortismurphy on February 12, 2015, 07:30:28 AM
To the original question:

I suppose there's little market for a release consisting of just music videos these days. Concerts I can understand, with home theater systems it can be an experience to watch. With music videos, I think the need is covered by the likes of youtube. People aren't popping in DVDs or Blu-rays to sit watch some music videos.

To sum up: it won't sell well.

I have had Welcome to the Videos on VHS since it originally came out and replaced it with the DVD awhile back, and I have to say, I have only watched it once or twice! It is not really something I would ever do, sticking on a bunch of music promos.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 12, 2015, 07:48:39 AM
Yes, look at Michael Jackson's music video collection - "Number Ones", the collection of the most popular music videos of all time.

There's not a Blu-ray release for that one either.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: jarmo on February 12, 2015, 08:13:50 AM
Isn't the whole idea of Blu-ray the HD quality, both video on audio?
In order to make use of the format, I think those old clips and films would need to be worked on. That's an investment that's up to the record company.

If you're gonna put them out on Blu-ray in DVD/VHS quality, it kinda loses its point.




/jarmo


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Princess Leia on February 12, 2015, 08:40:56 AM
I would buy them, for now I can watch them in YouTube  ;D


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: TheBaconman on February 12, 2015, 07:57:21 PM
Isn't the whole idea of Blu-ray the HD quality, both video on audio?
In order to make use of the format, I think those old clips and films would need to be worked on. That's an investment that's up to the record company.

If you're gonna put them out on Blu-ray in DVD/VHS quality, it kinda loses its point.




/jarmo


I agree the songs would have to transferred to blue ray

However

Why would the record label have to do this or pay for this?

Who owns these videos.  I am thinking that guns now owns them...  The partnership of Axl slash and duff.   Are you sure the label owns the videos?


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 12, 2015, 08:31:27 PM
Isn't the whole idea of Blu-ray the HD quality, both video on audio?
In order to make use of the format, I think those old clips and films would need to be worked on. That's an investment that's up to the record company.

If you're gonna put them out on Blu-ray in DVD/VHS quality, it kinda loses its point.




/jarmo


I agree the songs would have to transferred to blue ray

However

Why would the record label have to do this or pay for this?

Who owns these videos.  I am thinking that guns now owns them...  The partnership of Axl slash and duff.   Are you sure the label owns the videos?


Universal owns publishing rights for Guns N Roses music.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: TheBaconman on February 12, 2015, 09:18:03 PM
Isn't the whole idea of Blu-ray the HD quality, both video on audio?
In order to make use of the format, I think those old clips and films would need to be worked on. That's an investment that's up to the record company.

If you're gonna put them out on Blu-ray in DVD/VHS quality, it kinda loses its point.




/jarmo


I agree the songs would have to transferred to blue ray

However

Why would the record label have to do this or pay for this?

Who owns these videos.  I am thinking that guns now owns them...  The partnership of Axl slash and duff.   Are you sure the label owns the videos?


Universal owns publishing rights for Guns N Roses music.

So was that one line supposed to clear up all my questions

Didnt Axl sign a publishing deal with sanctuary?

Isn't universal the record label?  The record label that merged with geffen, which was the previous record label


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 12, 2015, 09:44:08 PM
Isn't the whole idea of Blu-ray the HD quality, both video on audio?
In order to make use of the format, I think those old clips and films would need to be worked on. That's an investment that's up to the record company.

If you're gonna put them out on Blu-ray in DVD/VHS quality, it kinda loses its point.




/jarmo


I agree the songs would have to transferred to blue ray

However

Why would the record label have to do this or pay for this?

Who owns these videos.  I am thinking that guns now owns them...  The partnership of Axl slash and duff.   Are you sure the label owns the videos?


Universal owns publishing rights for Guns N Roses music.

So was that one line supposed to clear up all my questions

Didnt Axl sign a publishing deal with sanctuary?

Isn't universal the record label?  The record label that merged with geffen, which was the previous record label

The record label is Geffen Records - which is part of the merged Interscope-Geffen-A&M label and owned by Universal Music Group.

Then you have Black Frog Music, which is owned by Axl. There's not much information about this company, but I am quite certain it's under the Universal Publishing umbrella.

They did have publishing with Sanctuary, but that's like 10 years ago.


I am sure the label owns the videos. Axl, Slash and Duff get paid royalties for them, but I don't think they have any final say in what to do with them.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Limulus on February 13, 2015, 03:07:50 AM
But didnt GN'R pay for the big videos (DC, NR, Estranged) themselves?? i recall they've said so, so it could be in the GN'R vault collecting dust? yes/no? on the other hand WTTV was released on DVD in 2003 i think.....and it didnt look like Axl had any say in that back then.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: jarmo on February 13, 2015, 08:03:53 AM
I agree the songs would have to transferred to blue ray

However

Why would the record label have to do this or pay for this?

Who's gonna pay for that work?
If you want Blu-ray quality, it'll cost more than just putting them out. Who knows what quality the music videos were filmed in to begin with. They might need restoration work to look good on Blu-ray.
That's what they do with movies.

Nobody wants to buy a Blu-ray that looks as good as a VHS tape.



/jarmo



Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Spirit on February 13, 2015, 01:20:12 PM
But didnt GN'R pay for the big videos (DC, NR, Estranged) themselves?? i recall they've said so, so it could be in the GN'R vault collecting dust? yes/no? on the other hand WTTV was released on DVD in 2003 i think.....and it didnt look like Axl had any say in that back then.

To be honest, I don't know who actually paid for the videos.

Seems like a complicated situation, since the label owns the songs in the videos. Someone with knowledge of the mechanics involved should answer it.

But... it's not in the GN'R vault collecting dust. The videos are alive and well on the internet, gathering millions of views.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: pilferk on February 13, 2015, 01:33:18 PM
Anyone have the tapes handy? I've got 'em, but they're stashed away and not handy.

If you look at WHO released the collections, that should answer a lot of the questions about who would have to release the blu-rays.

Edit: Checked amazon. Says the studio that released is Geffen (ditto for the Tokyo concerts).  If correct, that would mean Universal would release them on Blu-Ray.

ALSO, since there are DVD versions of the things we're talking about...it means there's been some digital work and restoration already.  Not, necessarily, a lot..but the material is at least in digital format.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: TheBaconman on February 13, 2015, 02:39:08 PM
I agree the songs would have to transferred to blue ray

However

Why would the record label have to do this or pay for this?

Who's gonna pay for that work?
If you want Blu-ray quality, it'll cost more than just putting them out. Who knows what quality the music videos were filmed in to begin with. They might need restoration work to look good on Blu-ray.
That's what they do with movies.

Nobody wants to buy a Blu-ray that looks as good as a VHS tape.



/jarmo



I agree totally

It's going to cost money

So who's should pay

Even if the record label owns them.  I am sure if Axl came up and said hey I am paying the bill to remaster these videos as part of a big release.  To celebrate the bands history and as a bit of a thank you to our fans.

I don't think the label would pass that up


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: jarmo on February 13, 2015, 03:16:54 PM
ALSO, since there are DVD versions of the things we're talking about...it means there's been some digital work and restoration already.  Not, necessarily, a lot..but the material is at least in digital format.

They're on Vevo/Youtube, they're digital for sure. ;)
I assume they didn't do any restoration work. Just made a transfer from analog to digital and put it out.

Otherwise I suspect they would've made a big deal out of. "Remastered for DVD" or something similar...



/jarmo


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Dead N' Bloated on February 13, 2015, 08:30:14 PM
What is the "Gold" DVD?


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: Billo on February 15, 2015, 07:15:26 AM
Thanks for the comments..  the Gold is the same as the welcome to the videos but it includes YCBM and KOHD for some reason arnt on the welcome to the videos DVD.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: troccoli on February 17, 2015, 04:17:07 PM
Anyone have the tapes handy? I've got 'em, but they're stashed away and not handy.

If you look at WHO released the collections, that should answer a lot of the questions about who would have to release the blu-rays.

Edit: Checked amazon. Says the studio that released is Geffen (ditto for the Tokyo concerts).  If correct, that would mean Universal would release them on Blu-Ray.

ALSO, since there are DVD versions of the things we're talking about...it means there's been some digital work and restoration already.  Not, necessarily, a lot..but the material is at least in digital format.

There are DVD versions of the Making Vids?  News to me.  I know there are laser discs of those.  There are DVDs of the Tokyo concerts and the Welcome to the Videos.


Title: Re: Greatest Hits Blu-ray
Post by: pilferk on February 18, 2015, 07:50:37 AM
Anyone have the tapes handy? I've got 'em, but they're stashed away and not handy.

If you look at WHO released the collections, that should answer a lot of the questions about who would have to release the blu-rays.

Edit: Checked amazon. Says the studio that released is Geffen (ditto for the Tokyo concerts).  If correct, that would mean Universal would release them on Blu-Ray.

ALSO, since there are DVD versions of the things we're talking about...it means there's been some digital work and restoration already.  Not, necessarily, a lot..but the material is at least in digital format.

There are DVD versions of the Making Vids?  News to me.  I know there are laser discs of those.  There are DVDs of the Tokyo concerts and the Welcome to the Videos.

I haven't fired up my DVD of Welcome to the Vids in awhile...but weren't the "making of's" included as bonus features?  I could be wrong, for sure..but I thought they were.