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　I am a fan of GN'R living in Japan. I can not understand why GN'R whether to require a cover song so much. I was listening to all the songs from Chinese Democracy all live in 2002 and 2009. IRS and Shackler's Revenge, of course, fierce shout of live of If The World was a wonderful experience. And it was so much fun rhythm shake vigorously Riad N 'The Bedouins or Scraped. Prostitute also liven up the audience.

　I regret very much that instead, Whole Lotta Rosie, Do not Let It Bring You Down, The Seeker, Riff Raff has been playing these songs are not fixed to the set list.Any good song, it is necessary to to be accepted, it is played many times.I, I'd like to show off to the fans songs from Chinese Democracy as many one song. Than cover songs.

I'm holding with you.

I actually like covers songs, as a rule.  See what sort of spin a band I like puts on a song by another artist.

Problem with GNR is that they already have 2 covers that are pretty much never coming out of the setlist in LALD and KOHD.  So even playing just one more cover, now you are up to three, which is high for a band on their level.

Thing is, I would never drop LALD or KOHD from the setlist.  I hear people say they would, but not me.  LALD is a good tune live, and KOHD is such a tradition at this point.

Thank you for your reply. Thank you for even me to read.
It's removed from the set list the Knockin'On Heaven's Door is, I think as difficult. Because it is one of the few songs that you sing with everyone in the hall.
I think the other hand, I only subjective, but instead of Live And Let Die, to play the If The World is a good challenge. Good phrase to remember Ease. Deployment of the song thrilling. This song has a great guitar solo.
I also sing on the spot. Even though I heard for the first time.

There are definitely some powerful songs I'd like to see become main stays specifically TWAT and prostitute, but the band has fun playing some covers and that's something GNR always has done too

Remember, GNR Not Is Burguer King

Yeah, they're more Old Country Buffet at this point.

Juck, you're preaching to the choir on my end. I'm with you 100%.

I would be disappoint if I went to see GN'R and they didn't play Knockin' on Heaven's Door  :crying:

I agree with the original poster

i'd rahter see and hear as many songs as possible created by the people on the stage , ive felt that way for a while, dont even need KOHD

but this all comes down to personal preference... and as I have been told in the past .. they play what they want to play...

You know, this is something you know by now, but the setlist can never be perfect. Somebody will always find ways to improve it to their personal liking.

We all could create our personal "perfect" setlists, and if it was performed in concert, you'd probably have 99% of the audience wondering what's going on.  :hihi:


I've been fortunate enough to experience the band playing some of those fan favorites live in concert, and we all love those, but the majority of the crowd are waiting for the "hits"...




/jarmo

I think most would agree that the setlists from the 2010 Canadian tour were damn near perfect. Pretty much all of Chinese' was played in addition to the hits; no one left unhappy.

In my opinion, I don't mind covers because Guns usually does a superior version to the original. Besides, with a 3 hour show or more you get covers, hits, some deep cuts every once in a while, and the material from Chinese Democracy. So everyone wins it seems to me.

I agree those setlists seemed the most representative of what would be considered the proper 'Chinese Democracy' tour. 

Something that I had in my mind for such a long time...
"A BOUTIQUE SHOWS FOR THE HARDCORE FANS"

I know it may sound you maybe too weird but that would be awsome to get the Band have a few shows and take off the "hits" and maybe play some Rare stuff that not played usually live from the UYI albums, Spaghetty and, Chinese and whatever they like.
It wont happen, I know but still - we can't live without dreams... :beer:

Like a fan club show?

Still not a guarantee that you could fill a venue with fan club members only. Or hardcore fans.
So you'd still end up with the average beer drinking rock fan who wants to hear the hits... ;)




/jarmo

Unfortunately true. I wish GN'R had a passionate fan base as large as Pearl Jam, where they could play completely different set lists night to night and please everyone.  Its disappointing because the potential for that was there.  But its funny, my 4 year old tells me 'you get what you get and you don't get upset'.  And thats the way it is with GN'R.  Like an all pro athlete that burns out too soon, but at least in the case of Guns, you can relive those first few seasons over and over through their music and live shows.  We'll get more songs live once they release the material Axl spoke about.  I hope they still have fresh life in them.  Like Doc Gooden pitching a no hitter for the Yankees years after his career nearly ended, I'd like to see Axl do something remarkable again.  But given the time lapse, he'll never have a large enough fan base to get away from performances that are primarily AFD and UYI.

"Fan club show" sounds very good : ok:

Hmm maybe once or twice in a big tour to have a show or two for the "Hardcore Fans" in a smaller Venue or something...
Don't know about others but I would pay 200-300$ to be there. (not to mention the whole $$$-$$$$ for the flight etc.

It's kinda fun to try to come up with your personal "dream set". Then you realize it's not easy.

You might end up with all the songs you really wanna hear live, but the show wouldn't have a nice flow. Stuff like that.





/jarmo

Guess you are right

I'd just like to hear something that hasn't been played live, Don't Damn Me, for example, is an awesome tune.

It would be interesting if they did a fan club show and just did an open ended setlist. They'd either have to be in the studio working on new music, have the time in between show dates, or in tour rehearsals to do it.

Can be tricky though.

Pearl Jam does this and lets fans pick the setlist.  They go nuts and start picking b-sides and album tracks that have never been done live.  Having heard some of these shows, I can tell you that some of the performances are a bit spotty, simply because the band is not used to doing them.

But is it interesting?

I find it a mixed bag.  A lot of times, there is a very good reason some songs don't get tried live.

I was lucky enough to see three of these shows here in Canada and they were the most complete set-lists..   I think out of the 3 different shows I saw all 3 may have had different songs played. 

After all the years touring now and always playing LALD and KOHD a fan should not be upset that it has been dropped, as you have had plenty of chances to see it dropped.  Don't be upset, but be surprised and happy

I sometimes wonder myself why Don't Damn Me was never played live. I think it would be great. I'm lucky to say I heard all the songs off Chinese Democracy expect Riad N 'The Bedouins. Maybe one day. Even The Shotgun Blues was never played live.

I feel it really comes down to how Axl is this feeling that dam. I mean it's not easy to sign for around 2 1/2 hrs every show. I'm sure that's why the set list is the way it is. It gives him a break and also the other members. I said, it before I'm really happy with what ever songs they play. It is cool how you never know what surprise they might have that night.  :beer:   
 

Try singing along to 'Don't Damn Me' just in the car.  It ain't easy.

Now imagine trying to run around onstage spitting all that out.

I love the song.  Think its probably the best song on that album.  But I think Axl would have struggled with it in 1991-93.  Today?  Out of the question.