Here Today... Gone To Hell!

its getting bigger here in Brazil, as you can see at MYFORUM

I find that whole situation creepy, the way this got out.

Kind of stalkery, I think.

I doubt that...its more likely Axl hires another bass player. Imagine all the comotion this reunion would cause? Dont think Axl would let that happen.

But Duff has been there before. 

Its only Slash he can't stand.

Yeah I know..but we are talkin about two full concerts...not just a guest appeareance. I hope this happens, would be cool! : ok:

There's time for Tommy to make both shows if needed. There's also still time for Westerberg to pull out of Coachella, it's not like they're headlining this one. And there's still time for PW to find a bassist for the first 'Mats show if Tommy can't make it. Tommy can make the show on the 18th. There's still a ton of options that I see no one is considering.

Its easier for The Replacements to replace Tommy!  :hihi: :rofl:

I remember Jarmo posting the times and flight patterns. 

He could do it.  He'd be pretty beat, but he could do it.

I believe this rumor was started before the shows went on sale....




/jarmo

Last time I remember Chris filled in for Tommy at a Versace show.  It would be cool to see Duff, if Tommy can't make it.   Then again I'll  believe it when I see it.

I wouldn't want to see this happen.   Tommy is a member of Guns.  I wouldn't want to see him sit out any GNR shows. N

Correctamundo. Just another no-name, unsubstantiated rumor.

Great ticket-selling stunt.

That would be cool if Tommy can't make it, It was said at some point awhile back that Duff was Tommy's backup so we shall see..... if it happens it should be unannounced.

Exactly.  How the fuck anyone got a hold of Duff's visa info. is frightening.

If I'm not mistaken, somebody files the paperwork for the artist. That person, or persons, can tip off somebody else and then the cat's out of the bag....

Same thing happens with riders and other paperwork related to touring.



/jarmo

I would think if Tommy wasnt going to be around for a few shows that Chris or somebody not as polarizing as Duff would fill in

cant see Duff playing CD songs... would be cool tho... hes my guy

and im sure if this was gunna happen it would be hard to keep under raps

Do any of you know Tommy's history with The Replacements? Do any of you have at least one Mats album? Listened or watched the old shows? Read anything on them?

Most bands and musicians would KILLLLLLL for even a fraction of the respect, credentials and gravitas that The Replacements get. Yeah, I know this is a GUNS N ROSES board. But Tommy being who he is, historically speaking, there's a LOT more at stake here. This is not some side project. NO one else in the GNR band (old OR new) has such a legacy to contend with other than Guns, and at the very same time no less. Go do some homework on The Replacements. It'll be VERY satisfying.

Yes, Tommy is a member of Guns, and has contributed a great deal. But, do a search on the web. 9 times out of 10, it's The Replacements that get primarily mentioned with Tommy. Of course Westerberg is synonymous to the band. But so is Tommy. Westerberg would NOT tour under the Mats name unless Tommy was fully in.

Why should it now matter WHO is playing bass for a few shows? It's still Guns N Roses, right??!?  RIGHT!?!?!?!!?

And look at this way: What a guy!!! The Guns fans are happy cuz of the gigs. The Mats fans are happy cuz of the gigs. And he still does fund raisers and local gigs here and there. THAT'S a good guy.

I confess that I'm not that familiar with The Replacements but a lot of artits that I like describe them as being an influence...that sure means something.


Yeah, but you cant rely on flight schedules like that ...delays and cancellations are a possibility. Thats why I think Tommy wont perform with both bands...one side will have to "lose"!

Makes sense.  Maybe I should've change my post to have read why the fuck would anyone get a hold of Duff's visa...

I don't see why Duff couldn't fill in.  Izzy came back for 6 shows in 93 when Gilby broke his arm. So Duff coming back for a few shows - there's precedent.

Would have been funnier in an ironic sort of way if Duff replaced Tommy at the 'Mats shows on the dates Tommy was busy with the GNR shows.  :hihi:

;D i didnt see that coming

Not to get too off track (no pun intended with what I'm about to say), but how can people track an individual passport, yet, governments can't find a plane. It makes no sense. Anyway, it would be cool to hear Duff play in a couple of shows.

I guess that the Brazilian Government has a database of all applications for visas to visit and/or work in their country - that must be what the source if this rumour is. Much easier to look into a database then find a plane whose communications systems had been deliberately disabled.


Back on topic - could there be another reason why Duff man is in Brazil?

This. /End Thread. (And to answer your question, Yes very familiar with Mats history, and caught Riot Fest Chicago, front row dead center...).

Jarmo you are on tour.. obviously you would know if Tommy is going to miss any shows....

is he? or is it a secret of some kind?

The difference is Izzy came back playing all songs that he knew/wrote...Duff would be playing CD songs (albeit no more than 5), but still there's no precedent for that.

It wouldn't make sense for duff to be doing Chinese Democracy songs and it wouldn't make sense for Tommy to bail on GNR for a few shows of a smaller band doing a smaller show. Obviously if he really wanted to do it and GNR OK'd it that would work but really can't see Duff up there. Even if they limit the CD songs, I doubt they would take them all out.

I reckon there is a possibility of him being a guest though. For such a big market and large fan base, South America hasn't had any special guests at there shows like America and Europe has.

There is a precedence of GNR including a "former member" to the last two shows of a tour/run.
I saw Izzy in Vegas 2012 for last two shows.
Just saying.....

Last two on the UK tour and last Europe show in Mallorca in 2012.

You may have deciphered the GNR code of guests.

I think Duff has put the hard feelings in the past and he'd be open to learning a few CD songs.

Also, The Replacements is a very significant punk band to a lot of people and it's what gave Tommy his career start, so I actually do see him taking a few shows off for that.

I would like to know if Tommy is actually going to miss any shows...because if he isn't ... then is all kinda moot.

Exactly right.  We are speculating about speculation.

This is one of the stupidest rumors ever.

Yes, and what CD songs did Izzy play?  That's my point.  There is no precedent for that, so if Tommy isn't able to play these shows and Duff subs, I think it would be the first time a former AFD member played CD songs. 

The whole Visa thing is a bit creepy, but it does give us something to talk about.

You mean you're looking for the band/management to make an official announcement on something???  You know things don't roll that way.  Who knows, maybe nothing's been decided yet, but my money's on no one will know until the day of the show...unless someone gets a hold of Tommy's flight itinerary (totally not out of the realm of possibility).

obviously i dont expect an official announcement...

but the fact the jarmo and whoever else hasnt refuted the idea that hes might miss anything leads me to believe that he is going to miss some shows lol

Agreed.  He could shut this down in 3 seconds and hasn't.

All he has said is that the Duff stuff was an old rumor.  No assurances that Tommy will be there so all this talk is silly.

This rumor is not true isn it?

I havent found the dates of the replacments tour.....

Who's to say the "passport" info is accurate...Perhpas Tommy's tech will fill in as did brains..:-)

Not to add fuel to a possibly unsubstantiated fire, but Duff's wife posted a couple of pics on Instagram about an hour ago; one of the Appetite album cover, asking people what their favorite Appetite song is, and an old one of Axl and Duff. Make of it what you will...

I know you're just the messenger, but that is adding some fuel to the fire  :hihi:

In all seriousness, it's funny she picked now of all times to post those pictures....unless, of course, it was with a specific purpose because this rumor is true.

Ali

Replacements have a bigger fan base than GNR by a landslide. And Coachella is sold out, so it's not really a smaller show either.

Just check out the Facebook followers and album sales..no disrespect to Tommy/the Replacements but I doubt the fan base is anywhere near GNR's..

I hope Jarmo confirms this is not true. 

In what universe do they have a bigger fan base? There's like a 100 bands playing Coachgaga. I still see Guns N' Roses pop up on Billboard. I don't think I've ever seen the Replacements on the billboard charts. So explain how the fan base is bigger? I'm going to strap in and be amazed I'm sure. ::)

Replacements has some kind cult around, in they best time maybe wasn't so popular like GNR. But know GNR is playing in Las Vegas like some old and lazy popstar, and Mats going through biggest festivals in USA as headliner.

 

The most stuppied thing on this board...How can you compare one of the biggest bends of all time and Replacements

I guess you guys didn't see the Kat Benzova tweet to Sue Holmes Mckagan, 'see you in a few'

You mean this?

(http://i59.tinypic.com/25qya7q.jpg)

Ali

Some of the biggest names in the music world have had stays in Vegas. I wouldn't consider coachella or any festival an achievement either. Also, you need to look up the definition of the word cult, it really doesn't apply to rock bands.

Who? Celine Dion? Cher? or maybe Motley Crue?

Go through internet and look how people reacted when Mats announce their first gigs. Look how much buzz they create. And than look how many people give a fuck about GNR with Ashba ? in Vegas doing same show different year.

Oh fuckin' please.  I love the 'Mats too BUT the reason they're creating so much buzz is because of the rarity of them performing. 

You really don't know Vegas's history do you?  Internet buzz, give me a break.

I LOVE that GNR is playing Vegas.  I find the quality of both venue and show, plus the ability to bump into band members around the place the best.

An alternate one.  That's crazy talk.

I think what the poster meant is that Replacement probably have more cache at the moment....

which they very well might... they appeal to that punk rock hipster scene... and plus this is basically a reunion for them

on no planet are they bigger or more popular than the GNR banner


as to the topic...it really looks like Duff is gunna be in Brazil....cant wait to see it !!!!

even Ron didnt shoot it down when he was asked about it

Apparently Vorterix radio in Buenos Aires Argentina confirned. That was posted at mygnr.com But then Duff would join the band there. I don?t know about Brazil

ARGENTINA = LUCKBOX !!!

while I have mixed feelings about this for several reasons.... I cant wait to see it unfold ! Duff is the coolest motherfucker ever in this band

It's confirmed, Duff will play the last 2 shows in Brazil with gnr

Can you please provide a source for this confirmation?

Ali

It seems to be happening. Not sure what I make of it... I love Duff but seems strange.

http://whiplash.net/materias/news_817/200603-gunsnroses.html#.UzmxU_ldWSo

Ticket sales boosting in 3, 2, 1.....

confirmed by the producer of the show

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I really hope this isn't true. I prefer to have Tommy playing. I know which band I'm going to see and Tommy is the bass player in that band.

Twitter:

@DuffMcKagan 2 min

Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, Brazil! See y'all in the next few weeks, Si? GNR.

https://twitter.com/DuffMcKagan/status/450733002645970944/photo/1/large

we tell you.. its not a rumor!  ;D

Amazing set list..

SO FINE
RAW POWER

and Duff playing Chinese stuffs

 : ok:

Thanks TEAM BRASIL

Wow, this is epic...Might have to book a flight.

Very cool!

It will be MY FIRST  show ever of GN'R (@ Ferro Stadium, Argentina)...
Now, Duff w/ the band...

I still can not believe it. I'm very happy, this will be unforgettable.

 :beer:


(http://i58.tinypic.com/2sbwzno.jpg)

Duff's twitter:

https://twitter.com/DuffMcKagan/status/450733002645970944/photo/1

 :beer:

It's true and Duff is learning the CD songs.

Ali

Excellent news , long life to real gunners! : ok:

Holy Fuck, so Duff's filling in for Tommy?!  I thought this was just more guest appearances!

i hope so, nothing against Tommy Stinson, but Duff in another dimension on bass

Raw Power
Attitude
Nice Boys
+AFD+UYI songs
That?s my band!!!  : ok:   :beer:

Yeah, rest of the tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAoc87z9d4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAoc87z9d4A)

If it can sound just like this please...

Just SA I assume?  Would be amazing if this expands to more than just these 5 shows...

Exciting to see him play the CD stuff! And So Fine don't hurt either :drool:

If this is april fool joke, I'll hunt Duff with Axl's cane and hit him in the eye

So pumped.. Fuck it whats izzy doing next week !! Let's make this a real party !

In the Summer Duff and Walking Papers have a few shows opening for Aerosmith in Europe. He might have time for one show in Vegas.

Yeah, but I'm sure he doesn't want to step on Tommy's toes.

Duff has always struck me a rather stand up guy.

I'll bet on izzy for last two shows of Vegas again.

Very exciting. Everything is always moving forward, but it's still going to take me back.

Well Tommy seems more interested in The Replacements. If GN?R is so important to him he could?ve found a way around to be with both bands. Or pick GN?R over Replacements.

It's impossible to be in two places at once.

Maybe he had committed to the Replacements gigs before the GN'R gigs were confirmed.

 


/jarmo

Jarmo | HTGTH.com ‏@htgth
This just in from @DuffMcKagan: Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, Brazil! See y'all in the next few weeks, Si? GNR. pic.twitter.com/Y2OODC8MpJ
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I think it's strange that certain people feel this is a negative thing, or indicative of Tommy's allegiance or loyalty. Sometimes, people have other commitments which you have to honor, as Bumblefoot touched upon a while back regarding the scheduling of conflicting tours (of course, Bumble's part in the live show is a bit harder to replace). And isn't it then so great to see that Axl and Duff's friendship has endured to a point where he becomes the one you call to fill in for Tommy for a couple of shows? It's friends having each other's backs. That's all I take from it.

Why can't people just accept it as a rare treat. No judging on the is it good/bad. Where is the loyalty etc. look at it as a limited edition thing. Only a certain audience can have this and I'm sure in years people will have Been grateful for this chance. It's like owning live like a suicide or an alternative Chinese. Rare and special.

I agree.  Well said.

I think this is a positive thing all around.

I look forward to seeing Tommy in Vegas.

Ali

Jarmo posted a plane schedule graphic, and the travel would have been ridiculous.

So good!!!    Duff and Axl for a full show is another level!  Playing a few songs is different!   
And Axl is in such an amazing place when you see his maturity and love of the music and fans!   Great stuff!  A dream!

Yeah, everything's o.k.

Ali

will they look each other's eyes in de middle of Estranged  (or ANY other song) and think "wow man... remember?"






 :yes:

To quote Axl from the Ritz: "I like this!"

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!  DUFF'S BACK!!!!!  I don't even care if it's for a few shows.....

Tommy...you are amazing....you're a great bass player, and there's a reason why my two cats are named Duff and Tommy....

But....dude.....with all due respect....

DUFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wonder what is written above Crazy on page 1. The right hand page has at least 3 lines at the top of the page cutoff and it looks like another song title is written there (above out ta get me).

the setlist kinda looks like Axl's writing...has that kinda block ish style his has

This should be a fun treat for us old and newer gnr fans. I remember seeing duff when I was 13( with gnr)and always thinking he was the coolest of the group.  Will be fun to see him in his old spot again, should be epic. That being said, can't wait to you get back, Tommy.

This kind of looks like a "What Duff can play off the top of his head that we can do live" kind of list....not an actual setlist......but....dudes....Attitude?  COME ON!! 

I love Tommy and he is The General of the band.  It's good to see past members and GnR get a long. Duff always seemed like a cool guy, this just goes to show, how much respect Tommy and Duff have for each other.  Those who get to see these shows... I envy you.

Wow this is crazy good!

people going to the gigs just got extra lucky.

it will be great to see him play chinese songs.
and no suprises on this tour huh?

i love that of all of the days they decided to announce it on april fools day

viva la bootleg

South Americans are some lucky bastards!   8)

It's interesting, because not only will Duff have to learn Chinese Democracy songs, but re-learn old GNR songs he hasn't played in decades.  I mean, check out "Think About You" on that setlist, the original GNR lineup never played that live after 1986!  I believe Izzy played it during the 2000s when performing with Axl, but Duff hasn't played it for 28 years!   :o

Thats cool to see Duff. Nice to see some songs that have not been played in awhile or with this lineup. Like So Fine! Great to see Out Ta Get Me on the set.  8)

Duff McKagan Reuniting With Guns N' Roses to 'Help Axl Out,' Says Tommy Stinson

April 01, 2014

GNR's former bassist is filling in on bass for five shows while Stinson tours with The Replacements. "I'm like, 'Thanks dude, for covering my ass on this one'"

Re-joining Guns N' Roses for five shows in South America is just Duff McKagan's way of being "a good buddy" according to current GNR bassist Tommy Stinson.

After McKagan tweeted a hint to that effect on Monday, the GNR camp confirmed that the group's founding bassist will spell Stinson, who was already locked into Replacements reunion dates, starting April 6 in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and for the balance of the South American tour, including shows in Asuncion, Paraguay on April 9, La Paz, Bolivia on April 12, Recife, Brazil on April 15 and Fortaleza, Brazil on April 17. GNR opens the tour on Tuesday in Florianapolis, Brazil, and also plays April 3 in Porto Alegre, Brazil, with Stinson, who will be back in the GNR bass saddle on May 13 in Bethlehem, Pa.

"I had those Replacement shows come up the same time the (South American) tour came up, and it got to be a scheduling issue right out of the gate," Stinson tells Billboard. "I didn't want to fuck anyone up in Guns by saying, 'Hey, I can't do this tour' or anything like that. Luckily someone was able to reach out to Duff and he was amenable to the idea and was into doing it. It's Duff being the kind of good sport he is, trying to help Axl (Rose) out. So I'm like, 'Thanks dude, for covering my ass on this one.' I think people are gonna be really stoked about it. It's gonna be fun for everyone."

For his part, McKagan relayed through GNR's publicist that, "It's pretty great to play these songs again, and looking forward to playing some gigs with my pal again. South America is always a radical place for rock n roll...and I'm honored to be doing this thing, in that place."

McKagan, who was part of GNR from 1985-1993, has always been the member of the original lineup who's kept closest ties to Rose's current incarnation of the band. He joined the group for three songs on Oct. 14, 2010 at London's O2 Arena, and twice again that December when his band Loaded opened two GNR shows in North America. And, of course, McKagan played with other former GNR members during the group's 2012 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction, which Rose (and guitarist Izzy Stradlin) skipped.

"I don't know that Duff and Axl ever even had bad blood," Stinson says. "I don't really know the whole story. But he came up and played with us a couple years back, and they got along great. Whatever their history is, they're certainly fine now -- I means, as fine as you can be after knowing someone for 30-plus years."

Stinson says McKagan joined GNR for rehearsals in Los Angeles last month and will likely run through the set again before the Buenos Aires show, but Stinson notes that, "He's a fucking great bass player. It's gonna be a breeze. The only bummer is I don't get to see one of the shows he plays, especially after playing his fucking parts for 17 years. It would be interesting to see how he plays them. There's a couple things I could use some pointers on."

GNR will also be playing at the Rock on the Range festival on May 13 in Columbus, Ohio, then they start a nine-show residency on May 21 at the The Joint in the Hard Rock Hotel Casino in Las Vegas. "There's rumblings of other things to come," Stinson says, "but I'm not sure what those would be at this point." Would one of those be some new GNR music, perhaps a follow-up to 2008's "Chinese Democracy?" "I hope we would fucking throw ourselves in the studio and make another record," the bassist says. "A bunch of us have been writing stuff, so hopefully we'll get something going."

He also doesn't rule out more for the Replacements, who play April 11 and 18 at the Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival and May 10 at the Shaky Knees Music Festival in Atlanta. "We're going to go out there and have fun and play our fucking show and go from there," Stinson says. "Anything at this point could happen. As long as we're having fun doing it, I think we fucking do it for as long as we want. That's kind of our modus operandi right now -- go out and have fun and play our songs and make people happy and have a hoot. I'm just surprised people want it so much; it's a daunting prospect, but then again nobody's really expecting us to be anything better or worse than we were 20 years go, so it's not really that big of a hurdle to jump over."

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6029516/duff-mckagan-reuniting-with-guns-n-roses-to-help-axl-out-says-tommy-stinson

I thought I had heard something about this, but the conversation just sort of dropped off.

Both Tommy and Duff are class acts. Kudos to them both.

Fact

Awesome that he rehearsed with the guys

Cool !
Looks like not even April fools works in GN'R universe.aaaand this is the first time Duff plays guns songs sober.
Looking forward to the updates.  :peace:

Good for both of them. I really like Tommy, had a chance to meet him during the last Vegas Residency.  It's good for Duff too. I hope this doesn't get carried away with full blown reunion rumors but it probably will. Axl even said in an interview a few years back he has no problem with Duff, so it should be fun for a few shows.

@ Duff's twitter account.
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Wow! I'm so happy for the lucky fans that get to go to those shows! F'ing great! :peace:

Wow! That's awesome! I was completely floored when Duff appeared a foot in front of us on stage in London with no warning as YCBM Started- it was amazing how many people didn't even notice. Axl's insensity went thru the roof instantly when Duff was on that stage- I couldn't believe how electyfying the xperience was! the concert was brought to a level I had never Experienced before- Axl sang the fuck outta YCBM! I thought his Larynx was gonna fall out! I thought for sure that was a 1 time fluke & never thought they'd b on stage again so I am quite envious of anyone who gets to experience them on stage together again - for some reason the chemistry felt just right with the current lineup as well as where both Axl & Duff are at this point in their lives- I really hope he stays with the band for a while- whereas I don't think it could work with anyone else from the original lineup- just my 2 cents :beer:

Wonder if axl will introduce him as RNR HOFer Suff Mckagen

Indeed.   8)


Actually 1985-1997 there, Billboard dude.


Actually, I'd say Izzy has always had the closest ties with Axl's new band.  He's played numerous shows with Axl over the years beginning in 2006 I believe, and has always stayed in touch with Axl.  Duff didn't reunite until the aforementioned 10/14/10 shows in London.  Izzy and Duff are probably around equal now in terms of being of good terms with Axl.

Tommy is a true hero of GNR history, humble and appreciative.

So Fine, Attitude, and Raw Power on that setlist.

Kudos to both Duff and Tommy. Both are handling this well and class act!!!

going to be cool seeing if Duff gets a solo like Tommy has been.... some Attitude maybe?

I don't think so, almost nobody cares about a reunion nowadays. Maybe it could be a step forward just to have Slash shacking hands with axl one more time but I think old fans are just too old to encourage the media to start speculations about a reunion in a massive way ;). It would be cool if Laurel & Hardy could bury the hatchet, I think it would be enough for people out there, but sadly we all know it won't happen.

Tommy,,, only class, thanks The General by you support

 : ok:

Indeed yes and both mean bass players. good day to be a gnr fan.

Id say that Tommy was the perfect guy to replace Duff, and obviously Duff is the perfect guy to replace Tommy.

Its a beautifull thing.

I wouldn't expect to hear some of the songs from that setlist.

With all due respect, where the hell are you living?  "Almost nobody cares about a reunion nowadays"  Are you for real?

A reunion will always be far and away the most interesting thing that ever happens with this band.  That's not to shit on the current line-up, but its just the reality of the situation.  Nothing would generate more press.  Nothing would bring back more fans.  Nothing would sell better as a product.

I'm right with you that aliens will invade and colonize the planet before Axl agreed to it, but that's a separate conversation.  People would be very interested.

The fact that Jarmo has to censor this board as much as he does just goes to show that a reunion is still as popular as ever among fans.
Personally, I don't waste my time thinking about it.

LOL, I too would like to know where this factoid comes from.

Its just common sense, I think.

Think of it like one of those "choose your own adventure" books we read as kids, where you could turn to 2 different pages to pick up 2 different threads.

Your first option is "Chinese Democracy II is released".  The other is "Guns N' Roses announce a reunion tour".

Can anyone make a serious argument that these generate anywhere close to the same reaction?

This conversation is going to lead to another locked thread.....

This just shows duff doesn't hold a grudge and wants to have a good time...if they all could do that....

Duff was not happy Axl no showed the HOF...but he just doesn't care about the bitter shit anymore...can't wait to see some video of this

When did Duff say he wasn't happy with Axl over the HOF thing?

I gotta tell you, watching the "Rose Brothers" singing So Fine on stage will be very emotional...

"I owe a favor to a friend
My friends, they always come through for me, yeah"  :beer:

He didn't...just the impression I got..more disappointment he expressed they couldn't play

So fine would really be a highlight for me as well

I'm sure they were all annoyed by it.

Yes, yes, despite the "overwhelming positive reaction" that was suggested occurred.

Does anyone think this reinforces the rumor from a few years back that they were trying to bring in Duff in as a replacement for Tommy when he was considering quitting the band?

I don't know.  I never really saw where Duff would be all that interested in it.  He has no real connection with any of these guys.

"Far and away "the" most interesting thing that happens with this band"???

You are delusional

Well...don't go halfway here.

You are making the argument that a new album from this line-up would be bigger news and better received than a reunion? 

Be clear.  I need to hear you say the words.

And, just to clarify yet again, I am not taking a position on a reunion's probability or my personal desirability.  I think such talk is ridiculous.  I am speaking to the general population's reaction to both scenarios.

The stupidity of some posts amazes me. What censorship? I have a low tolerance for attention seeking idiots.

If people wanna talk about something that's not particularly relevant to the band's actions at this particular point in time, go ahead. But don't fucking waste my or anybody else's time by bringing that up in every other fucking thread. Simple as that.

Some of you call that censorship. I call it logic.

Thank you, have a nice day.




/jarmo

What was up with locking that other thread, Jarmo?

I didn't lock it.

But it makes sense to have one discussion in one place instead of running around like headless chicken.



/jarmo

No, I could see that approach.

But you do realize this thread was only created because the other one got locked for whatever reason.

There you go.



/jarmo

Thanks much.

Jarmo since you?re there. Do you know if Duff is traveling directly to Buenos Aires? Or is Duff meeting the band in Porto Alegre after the show to go together with the them?

People who followed gnr in the 90's todays have a belly,  they're probably balding, they have children,  many problems.... Yes, today almost nobody cares about a reunion because people who listen to today's music just don't need that. I mean, I personally would love it, but I know people  barely know what gnr was and what gnr is... It would be cool, great etc...but...it won't be a led zep reunion kind of thing, anyway. (I hope someday Axl will prove I'm wrong  :hihi:)

Duff also apparently helps Sebastian Bach out with writing some songs band appearing in the video for Temptation..Pretty good song, check out the Loaded wrist band..

I don't get this whole thing.  Duff doesn't hold grudges and he was pissed that the original lineup couldn't play at the RNRHOF cause that did mean a lot to him. So it is cool he can move on and play with Axl even it does seem it is always on Axl's terms.

It seems to me that it is on both their terms or else Duff wouldn't have agreed to it.  It's not like there's anything to suggest he was strong-armed into doing it.

Ali

On duff:
Duff is still close with axl because duff was so drunk back in the day that he seems to blame only himself for any issues and doesn't point fingers.  He clearly will enjoy this as a reuinion for him.  Slash or no slash, this is a reunion!

On reunion:
The current lineup is not new guns n roses.
The current lineup IS guns n roses.

Everyone who has been in this band...slash, duff, Adler, izzy, sorum, brain, bucket head, gilby, fink, and current members are the supporting cast of axl's band GNR! 

So  there is no such thing as a reunion since the band is active.
What is so great about axl is that he didn't give up.  He made guns n roses relevant against all odds!
Perfect voice, Mickey voice, raspy, hoarse and crap voice, axl is still going.  
Axl is an iron man.   He is touring at 52 with GNR and rocking out like a champ!

Thoughts anyone?

You couldn't be more wrong. I know 75 year old women who know who Gn'R are.  Billboard sales indicate that people still love Guns.

Yeah, and Duff wasn't exactly strong-armed back in 2010 either.  Duff and Axl serendipitously were in the same place at the same time doing different things, and Axl invited Duff to be onstage with him that night.  I don't see that as being on anybody's "terms" per se.

It kind of is on Axl's terms.  He needed the fill in.  He didn't want to play with Duff at the RNRHOF.  Duff had to go to South America and fill in on  Axl's tour.  Duff appears like he will play anywhere with Axl at anytime, Axl only lets Duff play with him at his shows when he is ready. Who knows, good for Duff.

Omg people,,, blah,, blah,,, blah

on topic please

Check out Axl's statements prior to the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.  He stated Duff and Izzy were welcome to play with him anytime if THEY desired:

Izzy came out with us a few times back in '06 and I invited him to join us at our LA Forum show last year.  Duff joined us in 2010 and again in '11 along with his band, Loaded, opening in Seattle and Vancouver. For me, with the exception of Izzy or Duff joining us on stage if they were so inclined somewhere in the future for a song or two, that's enough.

SOURCE: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2012/04/axl-rose-pens-open-letter-to-rock-hall-will-not-attend-asks-to-not-be-inducted.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2012/04/axl-rose-pens-open-letter-to-rock-hall-will-not-attend-asks-to-not-be-inducted.html)

 

  Hey! -I followed GnR in the 90's as well as 80'-I have no kids, no major problems & have ripped, 6-pack abs! But U R right I'm in the tiny minority. I just asked someone the other day that fits your profile If he could guess when GnR's last performance was since I found out he is considered by many to be a self-proclaimed "huge GnR fan". His answer was "ahhh 1997?"  When I told him it was the previous nite in Brazil he seemed quite puzzled & said "well you don't mean the real GnR with Axl though, right?" The reality is that a person as u described that considers them self to be a big GnR Fan is really not in a place in their lives to know or care about what's actually happening with GnR today.  I wish someday GnR would just appear at at half-time at the Superbowl & tear thru a blazing rendition of Jungle,YCBM & PC with Axl in top form but I know that will just never happen :peace:

It had nothing to do with him not wanting to play with Duff at the HOF thing... it was only Slash that he would not even step in to the same room with

or maybe if the Hall had let todays band play and made watch Slash from the last row... that probably could have convinced Axl too lol

Any idea whose playing on the 23rd in LA

Cool! Duff is a good guy, it'll be fun to see him with GNR for a few shows!

I would assume Tommy. Coachella will be over by then.

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The Replacement gets his Walking Papers.... In case ya hadn't already heard, Duff McKagan will be filling in for Tommy Stinson for the last 5 shows in South America-- Buenos Aires, Asuncion, La Paz, Recife, and Fortaleza.

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/jarmo

sweet! was that from los angeles or today?

He didn't want to play or be at the HOF, period. 

Again, there is nothing to suggest Duff agreed to do this out of anything other than his own free will.  So, I don't see how it can be "on Axl's terms".  Duff agreed to do it and was amenable to it.  Clearly, it worked for him.

Ali

Agreed.

I don't see a real plausible argument this is being done by anything but his own free will.

Axl could have called up Buckethead too.  That hardly meant Bucket would be rushing right back.  Because he has no desire to.

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Riffs, Licks, Slaps n' Plucks @DuffMcKagan & @tommy_stinson #DuffNTommy #SwappingNotes #GNRFerro #GNR pic.twitter.com/Pl5iBgTj7a
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These pics are amazing!

I remember Tommy being mistaken for Duff when they played the 2002 MTV Video Music Awards.  They bear a slight resemblence to one another if you don't look too closely.

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Awesome pic!!! The GOAT

Lucky fans right there

Wasn't a big fan of SomFine unto I saw them perform it live...Duff's punkish vocals really compliment Axl on the one..

In that last picture, looking at a couple of the people, I can't help but thinking that taking a selfie while being photographed with Duff and DJ is a bit redundant.