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The Hard Rock in Vegas just tweeted GNR Spring 2014  :beer: I can't wait!!

It would have to be pretty much right after South America, right?  Doesn't that go through April?

The Hard Rock hotel rates are VERY high the first week in May...

That's awesome news!  :beer:

I already paid for vegas April 18 to the 23rd.... i truly hope!!!!!!!!!!!!

Awesome!


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/jarmo

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT looks like my first Vegas trip

I go to Vegas every year, but in September.  Bummer.

I'm praying for some May shows...

April would be a no go for me. Have the cash, have the desire, but....work won't let me travel that month (and pretty much only that month) this year.

But anything on May 1st or later.....and it might be time for a little Vegas Vacation! :)

Times like these I fucking love living in Vegas...  :peace:

The last show in South America is April 9th, then Tommy has his gigs with The Replacements at Coachella later that month (April 11th & 18th).

With that in mind, I'm not sure they could fit all these shows into April...




/jarmo

Hahah no doubt! Looking forward to grabbing some drinks again !  :beer:

Man, do I ever hope you are right!!!

May 1st - June 20th is still "spring". :)

May 16th there's a show in Columbus....




/jarmo

Yeah, I thought about it.  Like...a click away from ordering tickets.

But I've been in that stadium, and, quite frankly, I'm not a fan.  And I'm less of a fan of GA Stadium shows, in general.  I'm happy they're doing it, but it's not worth the travel, for me, all things considered.  Stream that show, though...and I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

But Vegas?? And the chance to maybe catch 2 or 3 shows over a week or so vacation?

Different story!

You know it brother!

Hoping this is in May, I'll already be in Cali, and maybe can catch aride with some folks driving to the shows from there! :beer:

grrrrrrrrrrr

wish i hadnt already got my plane tickets for my vacation

I was just saying to my wife that there are never any good plans playing when we go to Vegas.  I'll be visiting for the 9th time April 18th for 8 nights.  Was getting so excited until Jarmo just shattered my hopes!!!!!

Is May really still 'Spring'?

Spring goes until around June 20th...the first day of summer is right around the 20th of June. My guess for the residency is the last week of April and the first 2 weeks of May.

Last time GN'R did the Hard Rock residency, it was about 3.5 weeks.
If you do 3.5 weeks and started the shows the week after the last South American gig, you'd still get into May....

If you start after Tommy's done with the Replacements, you'd definitely run over into May if you do 3.5 weeks.



/jarmo

Gotta love how they advertise this with a Chinese Democracy logo...Would we really have a setlist that opens with Chinese again? Or no one really cared enough yet to put together some new artwork? Anyways, happy to have some action this year.

Well if they set it up like the last one with a show on Wednesday, Friday and Saturday for four weeks. Maybe they might do the following,

Wednesday, May 21
Friday, May, 23
Saturday, May 24
Wednesday, May 28
Friday, May 30
Saturday, May 31
Wednesday, June 4
Friday, June 6
Saturday, June 7
Wednesday, June 11
Friday, June 13
Saturday, 14


That will will give them around three months to sell out like last time it. Can't wait for the dates.  :beer:  


  

Guns at Indy Motor Speedway for the Carb Day concert would be right up my Gasoline Alley  : ok:

I can still hope, wish, pray and day dream...or buy a flight to vegas...

Dear God, I hope we get some pay per view streams...please!

Just need the dates and i'am going to book me some time in Vegas for a few days

The Joint is booked on May 31, so one of the above dates just won't work.  My guess = April 30- May 14 range

I was just in Vegas for New Years going into 2014 and I was looking for GNR but could not find them.  ;D Where were you Axl?

I can't do April due to work and in May I'll be out of the country, but I hope for June when rates go down and Vegas gets hot, literally and in reality. If so, I'll be there for sure.

Bitty Ted and I will find a way to be there!

I need time to save!!!  ;D

If the residency spans over 2 weeks, I should be able to attend.  It is just a waiting game for the specific dates now.  There are just a few weeks in the spring where I already have commitments.

Since they posted the teaser on Friday, maybe it means we'll know more next week or in the next few weeks at least?



/jarmo

Good marketing by putting out some promo Super Bowl weekend.  :beer:

My bet is on early May for the shows.

Hold on who says its a residency.? I hope so obviously but could just be a few shows?!

I called the Hard Rock yesterday to try and get a bit more info but all they could say was the official announcement with dates was going to be made next week. Also, if you check room prices at the Hard Rock they're more expensive for the first part of May...might be a clue.

Do you think they would do that kind of promotion for let's say two shows?




/jarmo

It's great news for fans in the US of course. Let's hope that more touring follows, would love for the band to tour in the UK and Europe again. And somewhere within this touring you would hope for a new album, but to be honest I'm happy with the Chinese Democracy shows and the setlist (with the inclusion of Street Of Dreams and Sorry of course). Hoping for big things for GN'R, for 2014... and it seems to of started off great!!!...  : ok: : ok: ;D :love:

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I think its gonna be definitely more than 1 or 2 show!

I'm so there! :peace: :peace: :peace:

My first trip to the USA, going to LV April 24th - May 4th

Come on, fingers crossed !!

Apparently a couple of people from mygnr called the hard rock yesterday and the girl on the phone gave them the same dates... May 21 - June 7.

May 21, 24, 25, 28, 30, 31

June 4, 6, 7

So it's after the Rock On The Range show.

Wonder if she's in trouble now considering they didn't make the official announcement yet.....




/jarmo

Jim Jeffries is scheduled to play the joint on May 31 @ 8:00pm, so there's a bit of a conflict there.

Unless his gig is moved to the Vinyl venue next door or they just have GN'R on later that night....




/jarmo

Ya, that's what I was thinking...Vinyl is way smaller than the joint so I don't know if that would work. I have no clue who Jim Jeffries is but moving any show from the joint to vinyl is a big difference. But if he plays the joint he'll have to work around the permanent GNR stage setup. I also wonder if Guns will have opening acts like last time or if they'll do it like motley crue with no openers?

Heh heh...June 7 is my birthday. Hmmmm....3rd - 8th is sounding fun.

I called the Joint. They said the dates should be announced tomorrow. So I'm booking my trip right after they get announced ! Fucking stoked !!!!!

I hope not. I was able to book a suite for almost half the price I paid last time!  Now hopefully I can get a few vacation days. VIP tix and then my flight!

Not an issue at all. Comic starts at 8. Off at 930. GNR on around midnight. This is vegas, baby

ADMAN- You're right... At the latest, he'll be out by 10. But, we'll find out tomorrow the "real" dates...

I booked my room yesterday. Hotel cancellation is not a problem this far in advance.  I am going!!! 

Called the Hard rock this morning the lady said they have no info on GNR

Really?
After them tweeting the pic and promoting the shows with displays at the hotel and casino?  :hihi:

Sounds like they don't want to say anything before it's announced...



/jarmo

I'm sure they'll announce the specifics when they're ready ... I just can't wait to lock in the plans ! :beer:

The woman who booked my hotel would not reveal any details to me. 

I'm afraid to book the flight/hotel without the specifics, but it's so cheap right now

They must have been told to say that.  They have the info and should be out soon  :beer:

Since you can cancel hotel reservations, I made them fearing the cost of the rooms will be increased after the official announcement.  I believe hotel reservations can be cancelled up to 72 hours before the check in.  Of course I am not booking airfare until the dates are officially announced.  I am not taking that risk!!!

Looking forward for this now, Going to see them in Hell and Heaven Fest then hopefully goign to Las Vegas!!!

Need to know the dates =)

All you US fans are so lucky!!!... and you are even more luckier if you happen to live close to Las Vegas. 2 Vegas residencies within the space of a year and a half, amazing...  :drool:

I can only imagine my excitement if Guns did anything like that in the UK, maybe a Hammersmith Apollo residency.  :drool:

Give me a break guys, I can dream.  :hihi:

By the way, I HIGHLY recommend Jim Jefferies. Absolutely hilarious. Easily the best comic out there right now, at least for my twisted sense of humor. Hell, Guns should just have him open. :-)

The following are some of the first GUNS N' ROSES attendances/grosses at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, as reported by Billboard magazine:

* Artist/Event: GUNS N' ROSES
* Show Venue:The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
* City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada
* Show Dates: Oct. 31, Nov. 2-3, 2012
* Gross Sales: $775,119
* Total Attendance: 8,387
* Capacity: 9,839
* Ticket Prices: $179.50, $129.50, $85, $45
* Promoter: Concerts West/AEG Live

* Artist/Event: GUNS N' ROSES
* Show Venue:The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
* City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada
* Show Dates: Nov. 7, 9-10, 2012
* Gross Sales: $829,220
* Total Attendance: 9,082
* Capacity: 9,908
* Ticket Prices: $179.50, $129.50, $85, $45
* Promoter: Concerts West/AEG Live

Read more at http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-returning-to-las-vegas-for-second-hard-rock-hotel-casino-residency/#ASHJJ6pztDu0CYs3.99

Thought this might interest some of you.

I would seriously consider going to see GNR again if new songs (like brand fucking new off a future GNR album new) are confirmed to be performed. I have payed and loved every GNR show I have ever gone. But I am voting with the mighty dollar here. Its time for new music.

Buddah! Come anyways, even if it;s just have a beer with me! haha.  :peace:

You'd incur travel expenses to see this man?  Brave.

Thanks for the numbers.  Any idea how their residency compared to Motley Crue's?  Just wondering.

Guns N? Roses Rumored for Las Vegas Residency

We already know Guns N? Roses will be traveling to South America for a series of tour dates in the spring ? and now it looks like the band is heading to Vegas too.

The scoop appears to have been spilled by the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino Las Vegas, whose Facebook page currently features the GNR logo next to ?COMING SPRING 2014.? What that means exactly, no one?s saying just yet, but the post urges fans to ?Text GNR to 97580 to be the first to hear the big news.? The venue is also spreading the news via billboard and trying to generate excitement with the #GNRVegas hashtag on Facebook and Twitter.

According to Blabbermouth, GNR?s first residency grossed more than $1.6 million over six dates between Oct. 31 and Nov. 10, 2012, drawing nearly 17,500 people in all.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/guns-n-roses-las-vegas-2014/

For axlrosegnr? Damn right. He is one of the coolest motherfuckers I have ever had the privilege of meeting/hanging out with. If I go axlrosegnr would be one of the main reasons I would.

No, I meant Axl himself.

He no showed on me at an arena 20 minutes form house.  Incredibly frustrating and disappointing evening.  But I wasn't really out anything.  My ticket cost got refunded. 

But to incur plane tickets, lodging, etc?  I think you'd have to be out of your fucking mind.  No refunds on that stuff.  Because that may be the night he doesn't show.  Or storms off stage after 5 songs.

And before the usual apologists come in to tell me that he hasn't done that stuff in a few years, I can point to a FAR longer list of artists that have never done it, ever.

Axl is just a bad risk.  He comes to your town?  Yeah, go.  But incur expenses to travel and see him?  Risky as hell, in my view.

Are you serious?

So people pointing out facts are labeled "apologists" now. Keep pointing at your list of artists while the rest of the fans enjoy the shows.

Amazing how this was an issue for you guys for years, and then once things changed, you started reminding people how it used to be bad and it could happen again. Win-win for you!
 ::)



/jarmo

Deadly serious. 

You are seriously going to puff out your chest simply because he hasn't done any of that irresponsible shit on the last leg?  That's a big win for you?  Talk about your low bars.

If you want to point out "facts", there is no debating the fact he has a terrible track record on this stuff.  Those are facts, albeit inconvenient ones to some, it seems.

He's a riskier act to rely on than any other major act on his level.  That's a fact.  Of all the artists I go see, only one do I find myself saying "man, hope he shows up".  And I say it as 30% gallows humor, 70% genuine concern. 

"On the last leg"? Shows how out of touch you are. You're just like all the uninformed who like to keep repeating the same shit in order to make it true.

Here's some facts: He's showed up to over 200 shows since Dj joined the band. All over the world.
Maybe this is difficult to grasp for someone who's so obsessed about the "facts" about him not showing up.

And on the subject of the Vegas residency. I got news for you, he showed up in 2012! For all those shows!



There's not much we can do about you being bitter about a show being canceled. Possibly over ten years ago.....
 


/jarmo

Plus there were no issues in 2006 and 2007 either ....

There's a certain kind of people who will always remind us how bad things are, and when they change, how bad they were. And how something bad might still happen.
Sometimes they see themselves as "level headed" and "objective".

Ironically enough, some of these people often have problems giving credit when it's due. If something good happens, they're not seen....


To summarize the facts for those who aren't up-to-date with GN'R:

GN'R has played over 200 shows since Dj joined the band (since December 2009).
A show in Costa Rica was canceled due to an unsafe stage in April 2010. Two shows were canceled in 2011 in the USA due to production issues.
The Dublin show you keep hearing about? The band went back to Dublin in 2012 and played a show without any incidents. The band has also played successful shows in Vancouver, Montreal and Philadelphia without any incidents.





/jarmo

Or "minimally observant".

Even at his most undependable, the ACTUAL % of shows he cancelled (using total shows scheduled as the denominator) STILL wouldn't put me off.  And trending says that, in the past 4 to 5 years, the risk has gotten even lower (to the point of almost nothing).  To me...this doesn't seem like much of a risk.  I doubt weather issues or production issues with their set being moved are likely to rear their heads....

Especially considering the shows are in freakin' Vegas.  Somehow, as disappointed as I'd be with a cancellation, I think I could probably find SOMETHING to keep my wife and I occupied and happy while there.  :P

Especially considering the shows are in freakin' Vegas.  Somehow, as disappointed as I'd be with a cancellation, I think I could probably find SOMETHING to keep my wife and I occupied and happy while there.  :P




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Haha yeah.... vegas is not a boring place.....

DX... I often see eye to eye with you on some of ur criticisms, often they are valid...but not this one

give the guy his due when its deserved... he has been pretty reliable lately... dont know why Jarmo hasnt mentioned since DJ joined... dont see how he has anything to do with it but Axl has been much more on point in recent times.. i wouldnt worry about him not showing up at this point

not unless there was a reallllly big basketball game on tv  ;D

Axl will show up  ::)

With GNR i'd only exercise caution if you rely on public transport. Even if Axl took the stage at 9, you won't be leaving till about 12, which is pushing it for trains and buses. However this is vegas so hotels are on your doorstep.

Yeah... although during the last residency the cab line after the shows were crazy!!

so i stayed at hard rock and gambled some over there

and continued drinking at the ainsworth

I am speaking just to the track record in relation to other bands.  

Take them and any other 2 bands you want.  GNR, Pearl Jam and U2 for example.  Based on track record, would you have any real concerns of a no show, unexplained cancellation, or a storm off 5 songs in for whatever reason with those fellas?  Not really.  And once you compare those things to GNR, its not even a question in terms of where the higher risk lies.

Even look at something like the RNR HOF.  People bought tickets and made arrangements to be in Cleveland to see the band go in.  Then, what...week of, Axl bails?  

You just have to be on the lookout for that shit with this band.  The track record is what it is.  

And to tell me that things have been good lately, yes, that's valid.  Its also telling me that the guy with 5 prior DUIs is on the straight and narrow because he didn't have one within the year.  Maybe he didn't, but the history of him being a bad risk will always be present based on a proven track record over time.

Yeah, the cabs right after an event in Vegas (concert, comedian, etc) is always a bitch, isn't it?

Cool, so don't go.

That'll learn me.

Too late for that.

People are excited about the upcoming Las Vegas residency and somebody's gotta be the party pooper.




/jarmo

@HardRockHotelLV: Happy birthday Axl. #GNRVegas pic.twitter.com/J5ZNpA2pNz (http://pic.twitter.com/J5ZNpA2pNz)

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/jarmo

Well after that write up, I OWE you a beer! I'll see you here this spring.  ;D

Axl has completely rectified the situation in terms of reliability taking the stage.  I do not view traveling g to Las Vegas as a risk whatsoever anymore.  Sure when I did this in 2001 I was a little nervous.  People change, and frankly Axl is not getting enough credit for rectifying the problem.  He deserves some credit for this.  This isn't the same problem from 2002.  He is completely reliable and professional fulfilling his commitments. 

I'm not sure how that's really relevant, to most people.  Unless there is another band doing a Vegas residency around that time that you think members of this forum would rather see.

Because, unless the choice is between GnR and Band A...how GnR "compares" doesn't really matter.  It's not really a factor in the decision making process.

The only think that matters when evaluating "Would I take a risk, making travel arrangements, to see THIS man" is, ultimately, whats the actual level of risk.

Given overall history, and trending recent history...it's rather low.


Are U2 and Pearl Jam doing a Vegas residency, too?  Man...that would be AWESOME! Then I could see all 3!


Axl didn't bail.  Axl never, ever, ever said he was attending.  There's a big...and not just semantic...difference.

If your argument is he should have said one way or the other, sooner....fair enough.  But that's not the same as bailing, or no showing.


Yup, but..historically...while it happens...it really doesn't happen all that high of a % of time.  The bad shit is what's notable.  We overlook the relatively good shit.  


If the guy had a history of occasional DUI in his youth, and then went 5 years without one....yeah, I'd say he'd earned a second chance.

Would I consider his history? Yes...ALL of it.  Not just the negative/bad parts...with especially heavy weight toward the recent historical trending.

Five seldom-played songs for Guns N? Roses? set list at Hard Rock

You may have seen the billboard on I-15 with the Guns N? Roses logo on it, teasing something big for the band locally this spring. Here it is: The group will be returning to The Joint at the Hard Rock Hotel for a second residency after a well-received stint there in the fall of 2012. I saw the nearly three-hour show, dubbed ?Appetite for Democracy,? and it was indeed an awesomely overblown rock ?n? roll spectacle. But here?s the gripe: Despite what the band said in advance of their residency, the set list at The Joint shows was pretty much exactly what GNR has been playing on tour with their current lineup for years now. The production may have been slightly different, but not the selection of material they performed, with a few exceptions. The same thing can be said for Motley Crue during their two extended stays at The Joint. The band that did the whole residency thing at the venue the best?

Def Leppard, who played two sets each night, with the first set being rare songs and B-sides that the band had seldom, if ever, played before. This made the concert feel special, something worth traveling to Vegas for in order to see a show that you couldn?t see anywhere else.

And that?s what a residency is supposed to be all about, right? With this in mind, with Guns N? Roses returning to The Joint, here are five seldom-played songs that I?d like to see the band dust off at the Hard Rock:

?Coma?: My personal favorite song off of ?Use Your Illusion I,? ?Coma? is the band?s longest at more than 10 minutes in duration. The epic, tangled tune doesn?t have a chorus and is among the most adventurous they ever recorded.

?14 Years?: Easily the coolest moment during GNR?s first Vegas residency was when the band was joined by former guitarist Izzy Stradlin, who performed this ode to Rose and Stradlin?s friendship that the latter sang on ?Use Your Illusion II.? But Stradlin only participated in the last two gigs of the 12-date run. Bring him back for the whole thing this time, please.

?Reckless Life?: Pretty much one prolonged snarl, this bare bones, bare knuckle rocker was originally penned by Hollywood Rose, the band that prefaced Guns N? Roses. You can hear a live version of it on the band?s ?Lies? EP. Twenty five years later, let?s hear it live once more.

?Anything Goes?: This libidinous come-on is just about the only song off of ?Appetite for Destruction? that the band stopped playing ages ago. This might have something to do with the profane lyrics, but it?s a down and dirty reminder of this band?s down and dirty origins.

?Prostitute?: Not sure why this great, reflective, symphonic ?Chinese Democracy? album closer has never made into the band?s set list much, but this would be a good time to change all that.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/five-seldom-played-songs-guns-n-roses-set-list-hard-rock

If I could hear "Coma" live...just once...I would die a musically satisfied man. :)

The 3 live version of 'Coma' I have (Tokyo '92, Chicago '92, Nebraska '93) are all excellent.

You'd wonder with a long song like that with several stops, starts, and tempo changes might suffer.  It really didn't.  Axl even killed the long passage at the end, word for word.

'Locomotive' is another one.  The versions from NYC '91 and Tokyo '92 are flawless.

Well...this band can be so extremely frustrating! The official announcement was supposed to be made on Monday Feb 10...now someone at mygnr said that the announcement date has been changed to TBA, so I emailed the Hard Rock and the reply I got was that the official announcement of the residency will be made within a few weeks! So we might not get dates for another month. Unbelievable!

... and without the Hard Rock posting the teasers, we wouldn't be having this discussion. ;)
So who knows what the reason is.



/jarmo

I Called them and the said the same thing SMH... Why cant GNR ever gives 4-5 months in advance to "prepare" for a show. Its always like this. 2-3 months TOPS! Most acts put tickets on sale 5,6,7 months in advance. Not our band. Not GNR. Smh... Wont you sell more tickets that way??? By putting tickets on sale 5-6 months before the show? SPECIALLY outside the US where some fans struggle for money... I dont get it man. By the time they annouce the dates, HOTEL AND FLIGHT WILL BE MORE EXPENSIVE... But im wrong for pointing this out....
What is it? Is it that the show theyre playing in OHIO 5/16 dont want to lose potential audience? Are they afraid they might choose Vegas instead???? I dont get it... Always something... But dont worry, Im still going... Smh

Hotels and flights aren't necessarily more expensive two-three months in advance compared to six months in advance.

Yes, you're right. I believe sometimes things like when you can announce shows do play into the equation.
Why do you think they often announce festival dates before the other shows in the same region? Like New York City last June or the UK tours in 2006 and 2010....




/jarmo

I would venture to guess that close to 75 percent of people going to these shows in Vegas are from out of town... like myself if I can make it

so yeah the more time to plan to take days off,get flights ,rooms etc ... the better

It's just frustrating because traveling to vegas for a residency takes planning. You have to book time off work, hotels, flights, and you have to save and have a budget for the trip. Most of those things aren't a big deal, but booking time off of work can be a problem for a lot of people if there isn't a lot of advanced notice. I was looking forward to Monday so I could get everything booked. I've booked rooms based around the rumored dates as well as time off of work. The rooms can be cancelled no problem, but if they wait a while to announce the dates and they happen to be different from the rumored dates, changing my holidays at work could be a problem.

I already requested off from work based off the rumored dates.  Oh yes.  I am not fooling around. I will be there!

They will probably announce the OFFICIAL dates soon. I will be there in person Wed night for vacation and will be wearing my Axl aces t shirt. And will remind a few manager's that I need the dates so I can make plans to come back for GNR!

On the negative side, I can't do a lot of gambling because I need to save $$ for GNR  :crying:

Seen this date posted & removed twice today, managed to screen cap it 2nd time



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It would be an amazing experience live. I hope that it is one of their new live songs for the year. Vegas is the place to play it.

Just saw it on their web site as well...



/jarmo

I see it up there too. I planned on going to Vegas May 30, so hopefully these dates start popping up. I already booked my room last week when they were offering 40% off  :beer:

The official announcement is now supposed to be next Monday (February 17).

Interesting. :)

Where did you hear this?




/jarmo

The announcement was supposed to be today, but then that got changed to within the next few weeks. Then apparently someone from mygnr was told today that the announcement got pushed back one week. Take it for what it's worth but it sounds promising.

This is my main go to GNR site, but in situations like this it's helpful to get info from 2 sites rather than 1.

I called last week and was told today, but either way I'm going regardless ! I just hope they play TWAT again !!!

Best of the new songs, I think.  Was knocked out the first time I heard the leak, and it never really wavered for me.

Love the guitar work on that track.

May 31st holy crap maybe it would be a good time to finally go to Vegas and celebrate my 26th birthday with Axl!!

Not only are the employees telling people the dates in advance, they also posted a date on their web site....  :hihi:




/jarmo

I hope they sell the VIP tickets through GNR.com again

So it looks like it starts May 31st (based on Hard Rock website)?  Sorry if I haven't been paying attention - but how long would a residency typically last?  I'm assuming they will be there for the first 2-3 weeks of June then?

Do they sell out every show at a residency?  Not just them, I mean anybody.

Has to be some nights you have some empty seats, no?  Not a Friday or Saturday, but like...a Tuesday night.

Allegedly it starts before that. May 21st until June 7th.




/jarmo

It is great news for me that the rumored dates might be the correct dates.   : ok:

Yeah, I was hoping like hell this would have been September, when I go each year.

Good luck for you, bad luck for me. 

Where do you stay out there?

I hope so cuz I have my suite booked!~

Me too. I renewed my membership early just to be safe! :beer:

Saw the GNR date is now removed for the hardrock hotel.com site....

It was only up there for days...  :hihi:




/jarmo

True. Hopefully we get an officially announcement soon.

Well dayum. May 21st is my birthday. The big 4-0. Would be pretty sweet.

Dj confirmed there'll be a residency in his interview last night...



/jarmo

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, COMING SOON!

Whispers around the craps table (and our offices), is that GNR have a big announcement this Tuesday. We could gamble some big money on guessing what that announcement will be?

Nightrain members will be the first to roll the dice at the exclusive tables, so get your chips in place and hop onboard the Nightrain!

Tuesday. 7am. Tune in to Guns N Roses.com.



/jarmo

Fucking right !!!  :beer:

Oh boy I can hardly wait.  I've been yearning for another a residency since the first one ended.  It is an oasis for GNR fans. 

And to make a point here, some have complained that they are announcing without giving time to plan, well its been about 3 weeks, I think you could plan in that time!

Ya exactly...if it starts on May 21 like the rumors say, it still gives over 3 months notice...plenty of time to make plans!

There's plenty of time to plan. I hope they keep the VIP ticket prices the same  with the meet and greets

I booked vacation there from May 27 till June 3.......would love to catch a few shows....fingers crossed  :peace:

Hopefully your "gamble" pays off. We should now more tomorrow. :)




/jarmo

Me too! :beer: I've already picked out all my outfits!!!

Wonder what the theme will be?

This might be very interesting!

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-dates-for-second-las-vegas-residency-announced/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Is it official then?

Looks like somebody gave them the info....

It only mentions the name of the residency, the on sale date and the start/end dates.
There's no official press release attached....




/jarmo

Ahh man, I have tripped booked to Cali from April 30th -May 12th!. I could stay out longer in Cali, and hop over to Vegas, if I find at least 500$ more!!!

Would be cool 2 hear double talking jive if they bring back more illusions-stuff.

Wow, lots of haters posted comments after the unofficial announcement.

Well went all out, gonna extend my Cali trip till May 27th with a Hop to Vegas! Can't wait to hang with some of you again! :)

USA Today Picked up on this -

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2014/02/18/guns-n-roses-return-to-las-vegas-for-second-residency/5572327/


Guns N' Roses return to Vegas with 'No Trickery!'

Edna Gundersen, USA TODAY 3:03 a.m. EST February 18, 2014

Two years after its first residency, Guns N' Roses returns with the nine-show 'No Trickery! An Evening of Destruction'.

Fans with an appetite for destruction, here's your new happy meal.

Guns N' Roses is gearing up for a second run at The Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas.

The band's return, dubbed No Trickery! An Evening of Destruction, comprises nine shows at The Joint: May 21, 24, 25, 28, 30 and 31 and June 4, 6 and 7.

GNR has crafted a new production to follow up its first engagement at the venue, 2012's loud, eye-popping and hit-packed Appetite for Democracy.

"If some is good, more is better!" Bobby Reynolds, vice president of booking for AEG Live Las Vegas, told USA TODAY. "That's our take on welcoming back Guns N' Roses to The Joint. Our first residency with GNR was fantastic in every way imaginable. The band and the fans loved the venue, and the business was great for everyone else involved. We want all of the Guns N' Roses fans across the globe to come see what one of the iconic rock 'n' roll bands can do when they have the best venue in the world to do it in, in a city made to party. We are gearing up for another epic residency."

Chas Smith, vice president of entertainment for Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, weighed in, "We are really looking forward to having one of the true American rock 'n' roll bands back and performing at The Joint. Every time we have Guns N' Roses play in The Joint, it just keeps getting better.

"What more can I say than it's a great honor to have one of the most iconic rock 'n' roll bands in the world coming back to rock The Joint for nine more shows! We are all excited about this next run."

GNR, which has sold more than 100 million albums globally since its formation in 1985, consists of founder/front man Axl Rose, guitarist DJ Ashba, guitarist Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, guitarist Richard Fortus, bassist Tommy Stinson, keyboardist Dizzy Reed, keyboardist Chris Pitman and drummer Frank Ferrer. The band's most recent album is 2008's Chinese Democracy.

Tickets start at $49.50 and go on sale at 10 a.m. PT/1 p.m. ET Friday. To buy tickets, visit the Hard Rock Hotel box office or charge by phone at 888-9-AXS-TIX. For further details, go to HardRockHotel.com or GunsNRoses.com.

Pic I found on Facebook- looks official-

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Love it!!!

I literally came in my pants with this announcement. Great move by the band, a residency is a lot of fun and gives them that extra integrity, something the old guitar guy has none. This is something for the hardcore fanbase, so I'm sure they will play some deep cuts and new songs, the few casuals attending will love it anyway.

Wonder if the announcement is early in the morning for a reason....
The other announced US show goes on sale at 10am... So if you announce something at 7am, technically you could start sales at 10am.




/jarmo

From the GN'R Facebook:

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/jarmo

Looks great!

Blade Runner'ish, a little Illusion/90s vibe, neon is pure Vegas and still kinda it's own. Less is more. Yowza!  :smoking:

Hope there's an awesome "theme" to match. Like the last one (Appetite for Democracy).

Wonder what it'll be though..

Time to bring out the credit card. Woo hoo!!! I am going to coordinate going to as many as possible. Living in Vegas does have its advantages.

Tickets at AXS.com: http://www.axs.com/series/484/guns-n-roses-an-evening-of-destruction-no-trickery-tickets?skin=gnr (http://www.axs.com/series/484/guns-n-roses-an-evening-of-destruction-no-trickery-tickets?skin=gnr)

Onsale: Fri, Feb 21, 2014 - 10:00AM PST

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/jarmo

Jarmo,

Where is the presale supposed to be? Also, Are VIP tickets going to be offered to Nightrain members ?

Very exciting time !!

Update - Nevermind , all I have to do is read .....

Does anyone kow where pre-sale will be? I just signed-up on Nighttrain but can't seem to log-in

It'll be at www.gunsnroses.com



/jarmo

It took me awhile to login last week when I joined. As far pre sale passwords... I have no idea.

Can't figure out how to log into GNR.com. Can someone please post more details about the VIP stuff?

hanks

We don't have all the details yet.
But in the past, you could buy different packages through the official site.


You can't login?


/jarmo

Has there been a formal press release in association with this?  I haven't seen anything.

Ali

Got in  :beer:

What an excellent write up given by the venue, seems everyone is happy to have them back for another residency and the band are happy to be doing this again. Good luck to everyone, hope you all get the tickets you want.  :beer:

http://www.hardrockhotel.com/las-vegas-specials/hotel-deals/guns-n-ae-roses/511?mpch=ads

Wednesday, May 21
Saturday, May 24
Sunday, May 25
Wednesday, May 28
Friday, May 30
Saturday, May 31
Wednesday, June 4
Friday, June 6
Saturday, June 7

This spring, the world?s most iconic rock band Guns N? Roses marks their triumphant return to Sin City for a second residency, No Trickery!  An Evening of Destruction, at The Joint inside Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. Mounting a second run due to overwhelming demand, the group is set to perform nine unparalleled raw and gritty rock shows starting May 21 through June 7.

Guns N? Roses wowed fans and critics in 2012 with its first residency, Appetite for Democracy, at The Joint. The exclusive run featured a jam-packed set list, explosive pyrotechnics, eye-popping stage display and much more. This year?s engagement is bound to bring even more surprise elements as the group takes over for a once-in-a-lifetime rock ?n? roll experience.

Designed exclusively for The Joint in partnership with AEG Live, Guns N? Roses? No Trickery! An Evening of Destruction residency will feature an all-new production to highlight the band?s legacy. The nine-show commitment will allow concertgoers to get up-close-and-personal with Guns N? Roses while the group performs everything from its greatest hits to a few lesser known but beloved songs.

?Guns N? Roses? mind-blowing first residency, Appetite for Democracy, knocked it out of the park and we?re thrilled to have them back,? said Bobby Reynolds, vice president of booking for AEG Live Las Vegas. ?The band takes rock ?n? roll serious and their live shows are always over-the-top. Their second residency is going to bigger than ever, giving fans what they want plus more.?

Founded by Axl Rose in 1985, Guns N? Roses is one of the most popular acts in music history and has sold more than 100 million albums worldwide. The band consists of Axl Rose (frontman and founder), DJ Ashba (guitar), Ron ?Bumblefoot? Thal (guitar), Richard Fortus (guitar), Tommy Stinson (bass), Dizzy Reed (keyboards), Chris Pitman (keyboards) and Frank Ferrer (drums). Since its debut album Appetite for Destruction dropped in 1987, the band has released  a catalog of critically acclaimed albums including GN?R Lies (1988), double album Use Your Illusion I and Use Your Illusion II (1991), The Spaghetti Incident? (1993), and Chinese Democracy (2008).

Ticket prices start at $49.50 (plus applicable service fees).

For more information on Guns N? Roses, visit www.gunsnroses.com, www.facebook.com/gunsnroses and www.twitter.com/gunsnroses.

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/jarmo

That's a very cheap low price, is the capacity only 4,000 or is that just seating capacity?

I got in! It was an issue with my comp.

For last residency I bought my tickets through Hard Rock. I want to get pre-sale today through Nighttrain so was wondering once I log-in (at 10am) is there a tab I need to go to find the tickets?

Sorry for stupid question just new to Nighttrain

Cheers

All the ticket links for the Las Vegas shows are now live on www.gunsnroses.com

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The packages:

Vegas VIP Package (Reserved Floor)

One Reserved Floor Concert Ticket
Meet and Greet with Select Members of Guns N' Roses
Photo Opportunity with Select Members of Guns N' Roses
VIP Party Room with Cash Bar
Guns N' Roses Limited Edition Vegas Lithograph
Guns N' Roses Limited Edition Commemorative Vegas Laminate


First Entry Package (General Admission Floor)

One General Admission Concert Ticket
First Entry into the Venue
Guns N' Roses Limited Edition Vegas Lithograph


In addition to these, you can buy regular tickets as well: Reserved Suite GA Seating,  Reserved Floor Seat,  Reserved Table Seat or  General Admission Floor.

 



/jarmo

I have my tickets for the 4th, 6th and 7th of June.

Ali

Any way to get balcony? I sat in section 304 last show and it was a great spot!

I didn't see that option from the pre-sale.

Was wondering about that myself.

Ali

Got my VIP tix for May 28th, 30th and 31st!!!!! Bitty Ted and Annie are ready to rock!!!

I couldn't care less about these ''VIP'' things but I'm truly curious: why this has been available in Europe and USA and not in South America?

Does anyone know what the seating configuration is going to be? Is it all general admission on the floor, or, do they have seats on the floor behind the general admission part in front of the stage? I assume that it will be the same as the last time they played there.

Also, does anyone who went to the shows last time have any opinions/suggestions on what are good seats/bad seats at the Joint?

There are no bad seats...the front part of the floor is GA and the back half is seating. The balcony (sections 300 & 400) are also great. The tables along the side balconies aren't really my thing...there are tables with 4 chairs at each table. There's also GA on one of the side balconies...that gets pretty crowded and is the worst spot to be. But anywhere on the floor and the 300 and 400 sections are awesome!

How to buy tickets? I don't see how to get in!!

They ask for some promo code that I don't have and then there is a waiting room but nothing happens. How to buy the fucking tickets????

Come on man, someone tell me how to buy the fucking tix!!

I am curious if anyone can provide me with the following information:

How much is one GA ticket?


How much is one GA ticket + meet n greet?

going to get one of the room rate deals where its a night at the hard rock and a ticket for the show. should be fun! planning for the first show since its during the week the room will be cheaper.

Is there going to be a difference from Meet/Greet and Photo opportunity? Or will it be last the last residency's VIP package?

Ok, I am in for June 6 and 7. The AXS website is funky. I used the American express pre-sale and one link did not let me in but the second did. So Vegas here I come, second time in 6 mos and third separate time I will see GNR in Vegas. Can't fucking wait.

Got section 303, right in the middle, for 6.6 and 6.7.

Last times I sat in 302, 304, and one time off to the left I don't remember, maybe 301? Anyway, it's going to be great!

Do you have to be a member of "Nightrain" to buy the VIP package.....or will it be available when the tickets go on sale Friday? 

having trouble with am ex presale. i used 800 number on card. no dice. any advice? thanks

the Las Vegas shows are going to be amazing ,I hope the band will play atleast 2 new songs + Going Down and OMG  :smoking:

Hi Guys, can someone please explain the venue for me. The VIP meet and greet tickets are  for the Reserved Floor right.. What on earth is this? You have to stand on a special part of the floor set out just for you? Or is it indeed seats as it asks if you want 'Best available seats that are located together'.  The general admission floor looks like the best space to me?? Am I missing something?

From what I remember, there's a section behind the GA floor. I guess this is the so called Reserved Floor. It's not at the barricade in the front, but you do get a nice view.

Hopefully this link works: http://thejointlasvegas.com/Images/Seating-Chart/joint_sro_ga.aspx





Thinking about the logistics of it, I'd assume the Meet & Greet and photo opportunity will happen at the same time...
Because you have the band guys there, so why not take the photo?




/jarmo

There are two AE boxes on AXS.com site. The top one did not work for me. The bottom one did. I put in the 1-888 then whatever the number was on my card.

Be sure there are no spaces between the numbers. So it would be 1800xxxxxxx or for me 1888xxxxxxx.

I entered the data in the first AE box and got nothing, then opened second AE box and everything worked and I did not even reenter the data. As I said, its a funky process.

russkwtx

What option did you choose to get section 303?

I wanna grab those balcony seats too

i sat up there one night and stood right in front of the stage another night.... sure the seats are more relaxing...but the crowd up there was quite dead and boring, a lot of people didn't stay for the whole show as well... guess they were in a rush to get back to blackjack haha

I specified balcony seats.

I agree. On 12.31.11 I was in 304 and I was the only person in the whole fucking section that was standing. You can see me when you look at Jarmo's photo from the stage to the audience. A lot of people left, it was a dead scene. But then 11.21.12 I was on the floor (the DVD show) and again a lot of people left. In fact the guy and his wife next to me left immediately after Brownstone!! It was the third song in the show and they left!!

My point is that there are  a lot casual lookers and not all gunners so no matter where you are people will leave. No guarantees even on the floor. Although truth be told on the floor right at the stage is the best for sure.

Yeah... i spoke with a lot of people around town during the residency that were not die hard fans that went to just check out the shows because it was like an event they wanted to check out

not a knock on GNR...but anytime any act plays for almost three hours at that time of night... only die hards are going to stick thru the whole show

when i stood up in the balcony an older couple behind me actually asked me if i could sit because they couldnt see ! lol

so yeah i definitely recommend the GA for this venue with the whole vegas residency background, because there are a lot of just people checking out something new while on vacation

This has started to happen a lot at arena/stadium shows as well...
I remember seeing Depeche Mode and people stood up for one or two songs (the biggest hits), then sat down for the rest of the show...



/jarmo

When I saw Guns in Vegas on 11.23.12 (the first Izzy appearance) some people in my section stood up and the section behind started yelling at them to sit down. A couple of girls next to me stood the whole time even though the people behind them were calling them names and throwing shit at them. I just thought to myself, what is the point of going to a rock concert if you are going to sit the whole show. And of course everyone stands up for Sweet Child and then sits back down. I just don't get it.

I went to see Avenged Sevenfold during the last tour. I like a few of their songs, wouldn't say I'm a huge fan by any means but for $30 tickets it was worth seeing. If you're a diehard A7X fan, it would be the best show ever with the production and all, but we stayed for like an hour then left......

Now for GNR I stay until the band is off, because they're my favorite,but if you're a casual fan, I'd guess most people want to check it out to say they saw GNR but they end up getting a 3 hour show  :beer:

Yeah, isn't that weird?

If someone wants to sit for a song they don't know, hey, go ahead.  But to tell the people in front of you to sit down?  Are you kidding me?  Have you ever been to a rock concert?

Try being a 28 year old Stones fan.  If you clap too loudly you run the risk of upsetting the guy behind you at one of their concerts.  It's unreal.

Sadly,this is the state of concerts these days. It's not $5.50 anymore to see a show, more like $100.
It's a different audience.

So true.  I've seen the last several tours all the way back to 'Voodoo Lounge'.

I am often the only one in my section that knows the new songs.  It always seems like everyone around me, the last album they bought was 'Some Girls', and the latest tune they know is 'Start Me Up'.

The friend I took to the last Stones show I went to last May is a huge fan, and is a pretty eccentric guy.  When they started playing Rocks Off he started dancing around, singing along.  The guys behind us were furious.  They were like "Sit down man! These tickets were expensive!!"  They were furious that someone interrupted their staring contest with the stage.   ::)

Promo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAb6RG4t9MQ





/jarmo

I bought tix to 5/24, 5,25, 5/30, 5/31 and 6/7. Very excited. The 1 day presage on gunsnroses.com was a good deal.

Thats crazy.
I have also been there in a Stones gig where they play a song like rough justice and the whole stadium just stops breathing and asking each other whos cover is this. really bizarre. well thats what happens when you go to see a concert that 1 in every 10 people wants to see .

I am going to the 5/28 and 5/30 shows in Vegas.  I am fully booked.  And tomorrow I book Bethlehem hopefully.  Looking very forward to this.   

Nice.

I thought 'Voodoo Lounge' and 'A Bigger Bang' were very solid.  'Bridges To Babylon', I felt was not quite on that level, but good.

Sadly, 'You Got Me Rockin' is about all you might ever get a concert now, of all 3 of those albums.

I am in on the 4th.   Is the entire lower level standing room only ? 

great promo i love it so much  :love:they are back  :smoking:

No. Reserved seating behind the standing GA.

We're going to already be in Vegas on May 21st but we have tickets to another Vegas show on the Strip, it runs from 8 - 9:30 PM. Any idea what time GN'R will be hitting the stage? IIRC they didn't go on until after 11 PM during the 2012 Las Vegas run. We're hoping to be able to go to both shows so a late start for GN'R would be a good thing for us. Also are we expecting a 3 hour set?

I may be going out SOLO to one of the shows, would that be crazy? or would some fellow forum members meet up?

I went by myself two year ago, you meet a lot of people.

Not at this point. Doors are at 8pm. Then maybe an opening act...


/jarmo

Thanks, I bought tickets. Hopefully GN'R doesn't hit the stage until after 10 PM.

you might be the first person to say that, ever  ;D

You should  do it. I always go solo to the shows.  :beer:

For every GN'R show at the Joint that I've attended, there's always been fans hanging out hours before the doors open.

You won't be alone.



/jarmo

And really, once the show starts, how much talking to you do to those around you?

General Admission I usually go solo because I like to go early to be and STAY up front..Met some cool people from the forum ..

A friend of GNR's is a friend of mine

Who knows what 2014 will bring, but in 2012 the Wed shows went on about 11 pm or shortly thereafter, and the Fri/Sat shows went on about midnight. I would guess it will be the same but ultimately your guess is as good as mine. For my Fri/Sat shows I am assuming a midnight appearance to about 3 am or after. It's so rock n' roll in the sin capital of the world. Gotta love it.

A bit of advice to my East coast friends.  Try to get to Vegas a day before the show you are seeing.  In 2012, I went to a show the day I got there.  Since it ended at 3 AM, my body felt like it was 6 AM.  Yes, I am old and I got tired.  This time I am arriving a day early to get adjusted to the time zone difference.   

Last time I landed at 3:30, show started at 12, time I went to sleep it was 4:30. went to the show the next night, left vegas at 6 am on sunday and felt fine. Doing the same thing this time around  :beer:

That's what I am going to try and do when I come out there, also whats the best place to stay if I don't wanna be at the Hard Rock? I might be solo too do wanna take that into consideration

You can get all sorts of good deals on and off the strip. I love the Hard Rock!  Best part of this residency is that I can see a future with no snow and ice!!!!

You gotta give us some more hints.

Do you wanna stay close to the venue? Are you looking for a cheaper place than the Hard Rock?

By the way, you can get up to 15% off at the Hard Rock if you're going before May 30th: https://www.hardrockhotel.com/las-vegas-specials/hotel-deals/rooms-up-to-15-off-homepage/494




/jarmo

28-31 May flying out of Providence, RI and staying at the hard rock... For $511. I think i got a good deal. The ONLYbad thing is i get to Vegas at 9pm. So hoepfully is the Usual late GNR lol

Could be tight.  Its about a 15 minute cab ride to the strip.

And they re-did their airport, so its a fucking haul now.  You have to take a freakin' monorail type dealy and still walk all the way through it.

Best of luck.

But he's not going to the strip... The Hard Rock is on Paradise Rd.

It's about five minutes without traffic....




/jarmo

Just got tickets for the 28th (my birthday  :beer:) and the 31st. GA on the floor for Wed night and relaxing having a few (many) drinks at a table on Sat. I'll go Friday night too, just deciding on what tickets to go with.

got my room/ticket rate booked for the 21st!! opening night, hope to see some of ya there, if i run into ya Jarmo ill buy you a drink or play you in KISS mini golf hahaha!

Where has the VIP ticket option gone from gunsnroses.com???

Try this hotel.  It is cheap, the rooms are big, and it's real close to Hard Rock:


http://www.alexispark.com

thats what some of us nightrain members are wondering. i hope they come back along with early entry tickets

I ordered VIP the first day available for Nightrain members. I got row E, I was a little disappointed because I wanted to get row C. I ordered my tickets for the first residency long after the initial sale and got row c.

There are tons of places off the strip that do not cost much at all. I am talking less than $50 a night. The main benefit of Hard Rock is that after the show you are "home" in 10 minutes so you can stumble up to your room and sleep. No dealing with taxis or having to go anywhere else.

The odd thing is that at 2-3 am all the bars at the Hard Rock are closed....so the options for staying up are limited.

Right. And don't take a shuttle bus like Supershuttle because they stop at hundreds of places en route. Spend a few bucks more and get a direct taxi and you'll be at the hotel in 15 minutes easy. Guns is unlikely to go on before 11 if there is an opening band.  My tix for June say "at 10pm" which I am guessing means the opening band. I highly doubt it means 10pm for Axl. I would think you'll be fine.

They went on around 12 on a Friday and Saturday during the last residency. Isn't the main center bar in the casino open all night?

^Maybe, I actually don't remember, but I do remember all the bars in the outer loop were closed.

The Center Bar is open 24/7.



/jarmo

Afterparty!!!!!

Flights are expensive from NYC! Not sure why. Non stops are $700-800!

That is a lot. I got southwest from Baltimore and it was around $450 for 2 nights Friday and Saturday and nonstop round trip

At that point I'd try another airport like Philadelphia or Newark. 

I got a Southwest Air vacation package from Dallas which included airfare and 2 nights at Hard Rock for $693. Air tickets alone were $600 and hotel room alone was $130 a night, so I think I got a good deal. For those of you served by SW Air, check out their vacation packages. Just click on "Vacation" and then "air plus hotel."

I'll be at the 28th show too. GA, first entry. See you there.

My wife and I will repeat our whirlwind weekend as in 2012; flying in from PVD on the 30th, table seats that night, early GA the next night, flying home the 1st.  Staying at the Hard Rock.

I will be heading to the 31st show driving all the way from northern saskachawan canada. It will be a twenty plus hour drive non stop with a little detour to grab some goodies in colorado :smoking:will be traveling with my two older brothers and my best friend. My oldest bro keith who hasent seen gnr since 1993 in saskatoon is the one who got me into gnr when i was only eleven, and my other brother kyle who i must admit i hated when i was young because he would pick on me alot growing up,and would bug me about being such a big gnr fan just finally admitted to me all these years is that he loves gnr. And my best friend who was a big fan of the original band, and didnt give the new lineup a chance until i took him to see them in saskatoon in 2010 front row, and to this day loves this line up more than the original because of there energy and great performance they put on that night in saskatoon and lists chinese democracy as one of his favoright albumes. I cant wait for this road trip to vegas, ive been to the usa once before and that was to the last residency and i flew with my wife so this time traveling with my best friend and my two brothers over 1800 miles one way should be crazy

also i was at work when my wife ordered the tickets to the show for me GA. but she didnt get me the early access because she said they were not avaliable when she ordered them. So what i was wondering is there a way to upgrade them or any tips on how to beat the lines? i really want to be at the front for this one and give it my all Jarmo?

This is called going the distance.Have fun.Friends of mine saw a show from the last residency and loved it.They said it was the best concert they've been to.That's coming from people who went to Vegas for other activities and took in the concert on a whim.

Not sure if they'll sell upgrade packages. They have done so in the past.
So fingers crossed they will this time too.



/jarmo

cool thanks jarmo that would kick major ass just drop me a line on facebook if you hear anything thanks ill buy you a drink or two in vegas :beer:

Jarmo, could you try and find out why the VIP tickets have become unavailable to Nightrain members. Thanks in advance.

I believe they were a limited thing. As the e-mail from gunsnroses.com stated: VIP packages will become available for a limited time only
The ticket links now take you to axs.com, in other words gunsnroses.com doesn't sell the actual tickets anymore.

Now, it's still possible they might offer upgrade packages like they've done in the past.




/jarmo

Do they ever offer upgrades for meet n greets?

I believe they did last year for the US shows.

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The 15% off deal expires tomorrow: https://www.hardrockhotel.com/las-vegas-specials/hotel-deals/rooms-up-to-15-off-homepage/494



Also, did you guys notice that Andrew Dice Clay is at Vinyl during the residency?





/jarmo

That's awesome!  : ok:

Andrew "Dice" Clay has ties to GNR.  He opened for them in 1992 at the Rose Bowl.  Clay's act is pretty vulgar.  If you bring your wife, don't sit in the front row or you may come home in a body bag  :nervous:

I saw Dice walking around the Joint during the last residency

Jarmo,

Do you think there will be an opening band on the 31st since the opening time is listed at 11:45?

Good question.

I guess with that start time, it would be late start time for GN'R.



/jarmo

I was a huge fan back in the day.  But either his act got tired or I grew up, not sure which.

Dice's sons have a band that open for his show. They probably know Paradise City.

Last time Axl went on Kimmel to promote the Vegas residency, maybe the other Jimmy's going to get a crack at interviewing him.

Too cool! would love to catch some of that!

VIP upgrades are available on GNR.com, trying to figure out to purchase it since I already bought tix for one of the shows.

Cool.

I know some fans missed out when they originally sold the VIP packages, so that's nice that they added upgrades.



/jarmo

Just upgraded to the VIP package for May 28.....what a way to celebrate my birthday!  :beer:

Just don't party in Vegas like in The Hangover. ;)




/jarmo

good to know : ok: just hoping they will still be available in the next week or two just short on cash at the moment :nervous:

Let's hope so!

This is what's offered:




/jarmo

Just so I understand......

I bought 2 VIP tix for the 30th. For the 31st I bought the table tickets....I can't buy the VIP upgrade for them?

Why not?

The VIP upgrade let's you take part in the Meet & Greet and also some merchandise (lithograph, laminate).



/jarmo

When I go to the VIP upgrade, it says a ticket must be purchased? But I already have the ticket ....

thats ok all that means is you need a ticket to go to show thats all which you already do.

Right, but it's not letting me order the upgrade. Could be because I'm trying to order it on an ipad?

My Vegas tickets arrived in the mail today.  Hope everyone is ready for some fun!

I figured it out with some help. Just had to scroll down and click ok  ::)

Now I'll have the VIP both nights  :beer:

I'm ready for another two show weekend in Las Vegas!!

Purchased my tickets for June 6th and 7th.  ;D

I've booked lodging.

Now I need the airfare to come down a bit. If not, it'll be two long days on the road. 

Can't wait.  :drool:

Mine arrived today too! Made my day! :beer:

Called The Hard Rock and got their room and show package, for the first show May 21.  Can't wait to see GnR in Vegas again !

everything is booked staying at the hard rock got general admission and VIP for the 31st  :beer:   is it may yet?

It's "only" March, you gotta have some patience. ;)




/jarmo

its going to be fun! i have four buddies who are going to be there a week before me and i talked them into going to the show on may 25. feels good getting people to go to the shows who havent seen the new band yet cause i know they will be blown away by the show. ;D

Depends how cheap you want. I believe there's a Red Roof Inn across the street from the Hard Rock. Possibly the cheapest rooms around that area.
There's also a Hyatt, Embassy Suites around.

Look on sites likes priceline.com.


/jarmo

For anyone who's interested, the Red Roof Inn used to be called the Comfort Inn I believe. That's exactly where I stayed when I flew over there from the UK in 2006, and they are great rooms, at amazing prices.

For the location alone, I'd definitely recommend it, and the cheap prices of the hotel are a bonus... definitely one to book guys.  :)

(This hotel is literally right across the road, it'll be more of an effort to go to the local store than it would be to go to the hard Rock :D)

Ready to go!! See you there 4, 6 & 7 June  : ok:

im in a complete state of bankruptcy, but I will do my best to attend a couple of shows!

One way to save money on hotel rooms is to book a room for Friday night only. You don't really need a room for Sat night if you take an early flight. I did it for the NYE shows a few yrs ago. It's not that bad... Show probably will probably end at 2am and take a 6am flight home after spending all day at the pool or spa!

I'm a female and did it! You guys need to grow some balls  :rofl:

Kidding,
Pia

If you sign-up/register for the Backstage Pass (a Hardrock casino players card), which is free and takes 30 seconds online, you automatically qualify for 50% off the rooms at the HardRock.  I did this and got a pretty decent suite, with pool view for 4 nights for $350.  I could have gone for a non suite, with a mountain view for quite a bit less.  Anyways check it out....

Wondering who will open for Guns this time around. I enjoyed Adelitas Way for the last residency.  Looks like they have a new single and album coming out soon and they are available.  Maybe a repeat??

I hope it's not the Last Vegas again. I've seen them open 3 times lol

why?

he spent all his money on blank dvds and didn't anticipate blu ray

Then, rumors of Gnr in Mawazine Fest, June 07, Is false

Hey Gunners!!!
Who's coming on the 3 of the first Vegas shows? (21/24/25)

Just wanted to see everyone's thoughts on the upcoming residency .... Wondering what the stage design will be, possible surprises, songs, .... How's it selling .... Please share your thoughts ...

I don't know...but I can't wait!! May 28 and 30!! The first residency was awesome so I really wouldn't mind if the stage show and setlist are similar to the first one...but no matter what they do I know it'll be an awesome show!

I wish they would do something more hard core, rock n roll club like instead of flashy Vegas glam.  Something reminiscence of the early club days of GNR.

There was talk a few weeks ago they weren't sold out.

Which...I don't know, I can't believe.  This is not a big place. 

I am pretty sure not all seats were sold last time..at least the two nights I was there

I was playing poker in between shows and wearing one of the concert t shirts.. and a couple people at the tables said to me how was the show.. i told them it was great and they ended up buying tickets and going the next night... im sure there were a lot of walk ups each night


 

Given the nature of the place and the comps, no show in the entire town should ever have an empty seat.

I go out there every year.  I've seen concerts, comedians, magicians.  Never seen an empty seat, ever.

i went two nights... first night was up by the stage..second night on the balcony with a buddy of mine who isnt much of a fan...i dragged him... there were a lot of empty seats up there...maybe they were sold and were no shows... who knows

but hey id imagine they wouldnt schedule 10 shows if they didnt feel it was worth it to do so

Its a pretty low risk venture, and I assume a decent payday.

Seems like the name of the game lately, no?

It hasn't been a Profile In Courage lately, no.

Please take your off topic banter to PMs.

Thanks.




/jarmo

I hope someone is on the ball out there and can get us a decent bootleg.

The ones that are out so far from South America aren't really dynamite quality.  Hopefully, our luck will change in Las Vegas.

These shows don't sell out ahead of time...if at all. None of the shows during the first residency completely sold out. Motley Crue has done 2 residencies and none of those shows were sold out...same for Def Leppard's residency. Sure a lot of tickets are purchased by fans who are planning a Vegas trip around the shows, but the majority of tickets for these shows are bought by people who go to vegas for a holiday and have no clue about the shows until they get to vegas and decide to catch a show. A lot of tickets are bought a day before or the day of the show.

Yeah, I go to Vegas every September.

Missed the last one being a bit early, and will miss this one because I will be there way late.

I'm not sure your statement about none of the shows for any of these acts selling out is exactly true given I don't know the numbers.

But, I agree 100% with the rest of your statement.

The entire reason that residencies take place in Vegas is because of the high turnover due to the tourism and other reasoning for trips to Vegas.  It's like playing to a new group of people without ever moving.  I'd be willing to bet that the promoters are fully aware and expecting a lot of walkups to the show.  I saw that myself first hand at the last residency.

Ali

I'd agree, but this suggests that people take trips to Vegas with no legwork.  Is that real world?

I've been going to Vegas every year for 7 years.  And months ahead of time, I check out what shows/comedians/magicians will be there.  In my experience, this is what most people do.  I'd certainly argue more people do that then say they are going to fly out there and just wing it.  Maybe, *maybe*, if you are a trust fund baby just driving in for the weekend.  But a planned trip with flights months in advance?  Are you winging that? 

The only reason I ask about how its selling is because you can still get pretty decent seats in the orchestra section on AXS. The tables, GA Balcony, and suites are all but sold out for most shows, and most of the seated balcony sections have tickets in the higher 400s

I think a lot of people who have been to vegas a few times just go without much of a plan. They know what the permanent/regular shows are and they know what they like to spend their time doing while in Vegas.

I saw more people than I can count walking up to the ticket booth buying tickets.  It may not be no "legwork", but not months in advance legwork.

Ali

There is a lot of influx from the surrounding area, southern Cali, etc, where people just jump in the car and "wing it" for a short 5 hr trip. Its basically what I'm doing, I'm already gonna be out vacationing in Cali all moth , leave tomorrow :) !!. but I bought a tix for the show on the 24th, and my cousin and I will drive out there for the day crash that night and head back the next day. Id love to stay for the 25th show, but its memorial weekend, and the hotel prices are insane that weekend. Plus I leave on Tuesday, and don't want to be shot getting back late Monday night just to jump on the plane..lol And I rather be at the BBQ pool party with the family before I come back here to NY.

I can't wait ! Last time I went, I stayed on the strip... This time I got a night at the Hard Rock.  Going for the first show ! Excited to see the hotel themed GnR.  It will be fun to soak in the experience being it's the first show, I'm counting down the days !

https://twitter.com/thejointlv

@gunsnroses to work on new album during their #Vegas residency: http://goo.gl/X1MDnM  #GNRnotrickery.

Guns N? Roses shooting for ?kick-ass? residency in Las Vegas
http://blog.vegas.com/las-vegas-shows/guns-n-roses-shooting-for-kick-ass-residency-in-las-vegas-46252/




/jarmo

I'm still all about they need to get back to their roots.  I think the whole band needs to camp out at DJ's and live together while they make new music.  I realize everybody has grown up and matured so you know the not taking a bath option is off the table.  :hihi:

what roots.......lol

somehow i don't think Axl and Beta want to spend the month living out of DJ's garage lol

the 4 bedroom suite at the hard rock probably suits them better

Nice....

fingers crossed....

Same thing was said last year, and still no album (or any sign of it), so I don't see reason to believe this time.

Hard to argue with.

But, if forced to pick, I'll take them at least paying lip service to it than laughing at the question outright.

GNR Fandom : It's Faaaaaaantastic!!!

I apologize if this has already been covered.

Will Duff be part of the residency in Vegas?

If not, do you think he'll come on for a guest spot for a night or two?

Also, what's your bet on a new song or two being unveiled during the Vegas shows?

Whatever the case on any of these, it sounds like it's going to be a blast.

I think it's been reported that Tommy will be back.




/jarmo

http://blog.vegas.com/las-vegas-shows/guns-n-roses-album-vegas-residency-46092/

Keeping fingers crossed!!! :)

Can't believe this month will be Bethlehem and 2 Vegas shows for me.  We are getting kind of close now eh?

Is it just a strange coincidence that talk of a new album (if true, obviously amazing) comes right before the Vegas residency?  Wasn't that the case during the first Vegas residency 2 years ago, and did that result in any new music?  Unless the message comes from Axl (or Jarmo), I'm not holding my breath.

I think the subject comes up because the journalists ask.....




/jarmo

subject ALWAYS comes up....journalists always include last, most noteable (good or bad) and usually future release references in their articles for the masses....

As for a DJ produced albulm.....I hope DJ has a finger in it and I hope Ron has a finger in it and so on with Frank, Dizzy, Chris, Richard, Tommy.....at the end of the day you KNOW Axl will have his say and I haven't been dissapointed with his track record thus far, so I hope everyone can contribute and when the time is right.....we get something awesome

I think Jarmo is right.  Any reporter worth a damn will obviously ask about a new album.

As for the answers they give?  Well, they aren't exactly overflowing with credibility, based on their track record.  Both in terms of what they've said in the past, and the fact none of it ever really comes to be.

But I still say I'd rather hear this sort of talk than a shoulder shrug.  Or telling us they are focusing on the 14th leg of the same tour.

I buy that the band will spend time working on stuff while in Vegas.  There are a number of good recording studios there as well.  Question is will Axl take part? 

True...it does seem like the inevitable question to ask, and journalists pay more attention when the band's doing stuff, like a residency.  From reading these quotes over the years, I try not to get too excited (kind of like a been there/heard that before) but it doesn't work.  I still find myself thinking, "man, it's going to happen this time!"

Jarmo, will you be there for the whole residency?

Tickets for row C are the Joint are available on AXS.com under the handicapped seating. I recall two C being the front row last time ....

Cool. As much as I love Duff, I think I'd miss Tommy.


Now, can someone tell me why I have Silkworms stuck in my damn head?

Because Chris Pitman is a legend  :smoking:

Some publicity for the tour :D

http://www.harderbloggerfaster.com/guns-n-roses-comeback-tour-2014-to-start-soon/

Anybody know if there are going to be opening bands for this residency? They seem like a waste of time in a vegas residency. People want to go, see guns and leave...I don't think people who are in vegas on vacation want to be at a show for 5 hours...a 3 hour guns show is long enough. Motley didn't have an opener in September and it was great.

Casinos want you back out there ASAP too.

I got a good laugh out of this article. It ends with ' We just hope it?s not a simple publicity stunt to market Slash?s new album.'   :confused:

I'm thinking NO?   : ok:

Then...

* 3 Disc Recorded Whit: Bucky, Robin, Bryan, Izzy & Paul + 1 Disc Whit Line Up Actually ?? = 4 Disc

Mmmm...

* 4 Disc + DVD, BluRay, 3D Las Vegas 2012, DVD & BluRay London 2012  ??

Great News !!!

Bonus Track: World Tour 2014

 :smoking:

... and back on topic.

The shows at The Joint are less than two weeks away!




/jarmo

Spot TV:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65zOi1YjIw

Nice reminder.  : ok:




/jarmo

Just bought the VIP upgrade for the 1st show. Getting excited   :beer:

Also, nice that they let the procrastinators buy them when the shows are next week!

I want to get a flight for one show, then fly back the next day .... I'm already going on the 30, 31 but more GNR never hurt .... I doubt I'll do it though

Hey everyone
Need some real help please!!!
Had a room in the hard rock but it's cancelled (long story)
I'm arriving from LA to Vegas on the 21 for the first 3 shows and would like to know if someone can share his room with me and share the cost from the 21-26 of May .
Or any other suggestions
Thanks

Sign up for a Backstage Pass (players loyalty card) at the HardRock....its free....and it gets you half off a room booking right away.

Hope everything goes well. I feel you will have to spend some money. Stay in LA?

Is the bullet train running yet? I doubt it!

Jarmo @htgth
Guns N' Roses No Trickery at the Joint - May 21 - June 7 #gnrnotrickery
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djashba
What happens in Vegas..... #notrickery @gunsnroses @hardrockhotellv photo by @htgth
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Ron posted your story on his FB page. Im sure something will work out for u  : ok:

has or is anybody at the hard rock yet?

i'm curious to know if the place is decked out with all GNR stuff like it was 2 years ago

....and is it any different?

Sure.  They like to mix it up each night.  Make it different all the time.

DJ told me so.

Hey!

I have the VIP Upgrades for Friday 30rd. Never been on a VIP Package, does this happen before or after the show?

I just have my order number but did not receive anything yet, so should I just pickup the tickets on the venue or how this works?


Thanks!

Before GN'R.




/jarmo

I have a question about tickets. I ordered VIP tix for next week, and it said will call for pick up. Will I be able to get tix at box office or do I get them from ground control at that little table like they had last time?

As far as I know, the Will Call window is at the box office.

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Looks like Goldsboro is opening tomorrow's show:
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/jarmo

Thanks Jarmo. I WANT THAT POSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Godzilla's cousin!

Last time we got an email a few days prior to the show on where to go fir the VIP stuff ...

i feel like there was a lot more hype and promotion last time....

first show is tonight...and theres nothing going on here.....


has anybody been in the hard rock yet today or this week? is it all decorated in gnr stuff again?

anybody seen any band members around the venue?

I'm hoping to follow along at home.  Bunch of people have been posting on ParadiseCityBP.  I really like this shirt that was posted just awhile ago:

Credit: @waltdisney Elias
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htgth
Jarmo
Hard Rock Hotel and Casino Las Vegas
Elevator
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htgth
Jarmo
Mr. Lucky's at Hard Rock

Menu
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Other side of menu
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LOVE IT! I can't wait too get there! Thanks for posting pics!

Vanessa
Good morning!!!
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Del James

GN'R members visiting the kids.
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Speaking to the kids at the Boys & Girls Club in Las Vegas.
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Hi everyone.

Going for 5 shows i Vegas and was just curious if anybody knew wich hotel the band was staying at.
My guess is that Axl is NOT stayin at The Hard Rock, but maybe at The Wynn or Ballagio.
The band and crew might stay at The Hard Rock?
What do you Guys think or know?

Anybody know if there is any change for meeting the band members before or after the shows?

Thanks  :peace:

Everyone in the band are staying at the hard rock...or at least they did in 2012. Dj just did an interview and he said he was going to be living at the hard rock with the rest of the band even though he lives in vegas.

Has anyone heard if Duff will indeed be guesting?? I'm hoping to come over from UK. It would have to be next week as Walking Papers are in Europe after that.

People that have been before- Do you think you could have a good time coming on your own for the few nights?? I'm guessing there will be lots of like minded people there.

Yes, I went by myself in 2012, went to a few shows met some people, you won't feel like your by yourself

Any know what the lithographs look like ?!

I always go by myself, well me and Bitty Ted. I have made lifelong friends!

Just saw your post or I would have just posted it here!

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/board/index.php?topic=65860.0

I went to the first show.  I laugh when I hear people say Axl can't sing..... He's still got it ! That's a fact.

Booked up. Traveling solo from London tomorrow. Hope to see some of you over next 4 days.

I am in an airplane thousands of feet in the air as we speak headed to Vegas!   

I don't get on the sites as much as I would like to these days but it's nice to see this one is not filled with negativity like some of the others.

Anyways, I cannot wait as I'll be going to Vegas for the weekend and seeing the 31st show!  ;D

Haven't done the residencies but been to GN'R shows on my own before.. you can definitely have a great time.  : ok:

ummm...is Izzy showing up for the shows on the 30th and 31st??? if he isnt, hopefully somebody from GnR does something about that Izzy's Army facebook page...caus it just posted the links to tickets for the 30th and 31st shows going "get tickets for the Izzy dates here" and the links to the gnr website for those two shows tickets.

If izzy and duff are guests in Vegas I wonder if they'd be on the same shows or different shows. Maybe izzy plays this weekend and duff plays next weekend?

Dust N Bones with the three of them would be fucking killer

My first of two shows is tonight!

Who operates that twitter account? Does anyone know the details?

thejointlv
Yesterday @gunsnroses guitarist @bumblefoot hosted a spicy food challenge at #PinkTaco inside the hotel. #Vegas personalities competed for bragging rights and a $1,000 donation to the charity of their choice, provided by the hotel and AEG Live. #GNRnotrickery #gunsnroses #bumblefoot

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Frank
Deep cherry sparkle @porkpie87 !!! Thanks Bill!'
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The account is run by "wfuckinga", a.k.a "wfa", a.k.a "walker alford". He was the izzy impostor online for years, and he admitted it last year on mygnrforum when he slipped up and was called out on his BS. He also runs fake accounts of Beta and Paul Tobias (which he calls "parody").

I'm not really active on the forums these days, but hopefully some old timer can vouch for my having contact with Izzy years ago. I emailed Izzy about the Army last year and he confirmed to me at the time that he has never done a Q&A with that page and that he wouldn't contact them.

The #notrickery Q&A by GNR hinted that Izzy and Duff might make an appearance in Vegas, but nothing has been officially confirmed. Hope no-one has booked flights/hotels hoping to see Izzy or Duff because of these fakes  :-\

Did you also setup when fans could buy like a dog? If so; thanks for that :-)
I at first just assumed that 'izzy's army' was by the same fan (you?).

Apparently it's just another attention-whore.

I have made it to the Hard Rock !  Hope I survive until Wednesday.   No matter how many times I see this band, it is always exciting. Can not wait !

I can vouch for Will, he used to run the Chopaway website and was indeed an integral part of the 'Like a Dog' thing. Now that there is no website, I'm not sure whether Izzy is still in contact with anyone any more. Maybe Izzydutch  8)

UNLOCKING THE TRUTH To Support GUNS N' ROSES In Vegas
www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=11682 (http://www.knac.com/article.asp?ArticleID=11682)

I was at the show on the 28th. Great show, loved mostly every minute of it. Gotta respect a band that can play 3 hours straight with energy. More Energy in fact then the folks just sitting in their seats, who left early. Incredible. With that said, I was pretty disappointed with the lack of Chinese Democracy songs played. I mean, come on, 4 tracks only? Walking through the Hard Rock you could hear more than 4 Chinese Democracy songs played! I haven't been to the board in a bit, and wasn't familiar with the newer set-lists, so maybe that's why I was taken back by it. Regardless, I feel like, they're out there touring, why aren't they using the tour to promote the "new" album? And for me, I'd much rather hear TWAT, IRS, Street of Dreams, If the World, Prostitute, Sorry, or Riad n the Bedouins (LOVE me some Riad n the Bedouins!!!), then any of the solos, Riff Raff, Attitude, Raw, any of the canned jams, or Seeker...Ok, I DO like Seeker. Seriously, most the folks who paid the cash aren't there to listen to guitar solos, or off the beaten path covers. That's the reality. It's cool by me, but anyone on this board is probably more into the band then the common listener, so our thoughts on the topic shouldn't be considered mass appeal. On a side/personal note, my wife is most familiar with Chinese Democracy and the HITS from Appetite of course. So she was also let down by the fact that all her Fav's from CD were absent. TWAT, IRS, and Street of Dreams, BARE MINIMUM, need to be added back into the set. They're the best fucking tracks on the album outside of Better. Come on, who's with me on this? Or is it just me?  :peace:

Its little more than a greatest hits nostalgia operation these days.  Its not like they are playing these shows to break any new ground or move anything forward.

They are playing the old hits for fans that want to hear the old hits.

As much as is want to hear TWAT, most casual concert goers want to hear the AFD and UYI stuff. If they played exclusively CD only songs, then it would have to be intimate shows, which I would go to of course

Very true.  I absolutely understand the argument that you have to play the hits, and I don't even dispute it.

But I think the reality is that if you are still willing to pay to see the band in the current incarnation, you aren't all that averse to a new song.  If you are willing to pay money for travel and lodging to see this current band, is there a super argument you didn't plunk down $14 for 'Chinese Democracy'? 

I doubt that, highly.

Of course they couldn't play CD exclusively, the show would only be the 14 songs long. I'm happy to have AFD and UYI songs being played too, and I agree that is indeed what most folks want to hear. However, do the Solos, Riff Raff, Attitude, or Raw, Seeker, or the jams appear on AFD or UYI? So if they're already doing non AFD or UYI music, I would venture to guess that most people would rather hear CD tracks instead. And again, just my thoughts, the handful of CD songs I listed are WAY better then any of that stuff.

The only thing I can think of is that Axl and the band aren't happy with the way the band performs those songs live. They all said they really enjoy playing the new material, so that's not it. The whole thing just doesn't make sense to me. CD wasn't exactly the hottest album ever to release, I just feel like the time would be better spent putting that album in the hands and minds of as many people as possible, by playing the songs live to the people that showed up. There's a lot of people who don't even know CD exists, hard as that is for us to believe. Every time I told anyone that my wife and I were going to see GNR in Vegas, the first question was, "Is Axl still in the Band", OR, "Is Slash still in the Band"? That gives you an idea of what everyday people know of current GNR. And many of the attendees I saw and spoke to in Vegas weren't Mega Fans like us. That's an opportunity missed.

4 years ago the sets had more CD.

I was about 5 back from the stage for the 28th and 31st and was at the sound board for the 30th and beside the fans on the rail, most of the people around me, seemed lost when a CD tune came on.  I think they have adjusted for that.

And yes people I have talked to, even on the floor still ask about old members.  Some didn't even understand why Duff being there was such a big deal.  Something you have to deal with.

Despite that....they were amazing shows!

No doubt, great shows! Loved it, and would travel to Vegas again if they do it next year.

As far as the new stuff... Lost maybe, but a way to get them Found is to actually play the songs. Most music takes repetition to build familiarity, and through familiarity comes an appreciation for the music. There are also those songs you hear once, and fall in love right away. A hypothetical, but maybe they play IRS and someone hears it and loves it enough to find out what it was, and actually buys CD. Now they're a fan of New Guns! And that may have happened with the 4 CD tracks they did play. Someone hears The Seeker... and maybe they buy a "new" WHO album  ;D

Most people seeing the shows didn't make a special trip to Vegas to see them.  I would think the ajority of people seeing them find out GN'R has a residency that just so happens to be taking place during the dates they planned their vacation and so see a GN'R show instead of cirque du soleil.

And yes people I have talked to, even on the floor still ask about old members.  Some didn't even understand why Duff being there was such a big deal.  Something you have to deal with.
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That is amazing!  Guns n Roses is the best kept secret in the world of music!

That is amazing!  Guns n Roses is the best kept secret in the world of music!


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Maybe they weren't fans but just people going to a concert. 3 years ago I wouldn't have known who Duff even was, never heard of him or Izzy, Steven, Dizzy. Now I know them all, most of their old songs & most of Chinese Democracy & if only, if only Axl would sing ITW & it was caught on film I would be in my element. I also would be if Duff made an appearance at my concert - so does that make me a 'true fan' or a 'casual fan' ?  :-\

Since late 2011 I've learnt most of the songs, bought 3 released cd's, downloaded heaps of concerts, been to a concert & met most of the band. I still have people ask if Slash is in the band though, so when people talk about diehard fans I wonder what category I'm in.   ???

Hope everyone enjoys tonight's show & we get much more info coming out of it with pics & videos. Sitting here waiting all afternoon for photos  : ok:

dolphines-san

I think you are diehard Gunner :peace:
Not how LONG it is, but how Deep it is, is what matters!!

As a top of the bill act, the band has always done covers, Axl has always done costume changes during solo (remember Matt's drum solo  :-\ ) Nothing new is happening these days in this regard, enjoy the show folks.

I wouldn't mention costume change, remember when Slash said that & Axl went troppo at him??  :no:

Loved the the three shows I saw! So good to see so many GNR friends!

Now that the residency is over... I have a question about the band and Duff, that im hoping somebody close to the guys has some info on

Does anybody know why Duff played a whole show in the middle instead of Tommy?, I love Duff, but I don't get why nobody here seems to care about that night...

if you went to a metallica concert and Jason Newsted was playing bass instead of Trujillo.... i think people would notice and ask why...



and Duff who is usually very out there and fan friendly, has not said anything in the press or twitter about is GNR experiences lately , leads me to believe he was told not to in fear or stirring reunion discussion

What is there to say. Tommy needed the night off (presumably it's personal) and Duff was asked to stand in. And it was the best weekend ever!

I have taken a day off work before.....just saying.

Actually took 4 off to fly to Vegas and see 3 of the greatest GNR concerts, including Duff!

Hopefully they aren't "replacing" me at work.....lol

Was there a GN'R memorabilia showcase this time around?  I remember last time seeing cool photos of one of Axl's cars and other stage clothing.  Just wondering..

No just one case with a few things that had been left from last time. That was the one disappointment for me.

That was it -

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