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Title: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: johnreed3344 on December 29, 2013, 05:59:06 AM
The show before the cancelled tour in philly... I was there and a young fan (14) but after watching a few times the whole able on YouTube it may be one of Axl's best ever. I remember being there and beyond sold out (couldn't find standing room) Axl's voice and performance was unreal. It seems that he has an extra gear for NYC ( saw him at Hammerstein 2006, roseland 2012 and gov ball 2013).but after watching MSG 2002 he literally had compete control and was sooooooo good. Just a random topic but if any other members were there, please share your thoughts. So fucking good! I a
25 now and live in NYC can't wait for some
More!!!!


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: norway on December 29, 2013, 08:24:12 AM

Yeah, thats a really good performance by Axl. Docklands too. The 02-gigs have been unfairly downrated imo.

The pukkelpop-show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_7v2sJkiYs) (and vma-performance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oz4VqyQASI)) are amongst my highligts from this era. Some Epic buckethead-solos here. : ok:


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: GnR-NOW on December 29, 2013, 10:42:21 AM
Wish I could've been there. There are some good videos on YouTube. I was at the 06 MSG show though. I hope they play MSG again. Won't miss it for anything !!!


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: draguns on December 29, 2013, 10:46:13 AM
My childhood friend and I had tickets to the show. We had to eat up the money for the tickets.  We couldn't go since there was a snowstorm that day.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: rebelhipi on December 29, 2013, 10:52:26 AM
every day i seem to enjoy more that legendary 02 tour. i have yet to discover the last gig at MSG (defenetly next on my bootleg list)
but the boston show is one of the best shows ive heard from them you can really hear what was gnr all about back in 2002.

someday we will know what really happened that december night between NY and philly that lead to a 4year hiatus when things looked so good.
the best info i found was here (a exelent read the whole thing) http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=3543


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: One.In.A.Million on December 29, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
That 2002 tour was amazing, so many songs where performed to their best during this time. KOHD and The Blues from Leeds 02, are unbelievable.  : ok:


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: GnR-NOW on December 29, 2013, 11:50:41 AM
I agree. I think KOHD and The Blues from 02 was amazing, plus Bucket's Nightrain's solo from Boston ... unreal  :beer:


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: Tyson on December 29, 2013, 12:19:36 PM
I was there!  Hearing the opening chords to 'Welcome to the Jungle' and seeing Axl walk onto the stage and look out into the crowd gave me goosebumps. 


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: One.In.A.Million on December 29, 2013, 02:11:03 PM
I also think that Axl's high voice from 2002 suited songs like Madagascar, Think About You and SCOM much better than the rasp. The 02 Era is very underrated, so many amazing moments from that particular tour.  :peace:


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: Siamese Democracy on December 29, 2013, 07:07:55 PM
Give Axl credit for Msg in 2002.  He wasn't feeling well at all and still pulled off a great performance.   


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: jazjme on December 29, 2013, 09:41:07 PM
Was one of many great shows I was at, and one that I still remember to this day vividly!


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: XxWickeds10xX on December 30, 2013, 10:16:22 AM
I was there, don't forget there was a huge snow storm happening that shut down the tri state area.

I was there also for 2 Hammerstein shows years later. I thought the Hammerstein shows were better "performances" than that msg show.

That msg show was a better "concert" because you gotta factor in the storm, the crowd was absolutkey electric, and the whole "comeback world tour" vibe. I remember being so f'n excited to go see GnR after all those years.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: johnreed3344 on December 30, 2013, 01:41:13 PM
huge storm! I remember no school and almost in tears because of the thought the show was gonna get cancelled, but for once NJ Transit came through! And the Hammerstein show I went too May 2006 was the Izzy return and Kid Rock show, super killer stuff


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: BangoSkank on December 30, 2013, 04:44:42 PM
Wish I could have been there.  Sadly, I had tickets to the following night (and still no clear idea about what happened there).


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: Bodhi on December 30, 2013, 06:53:23 PM
That was a great show, and that tour is very under rated and usually forgotten about because it was so brief.  I was able to see them in NYC and also in Albany the week before and both are still among my favorite GNR shows.  In 2002 we were coming off a near decade of relative silence, so to say I was overwhelmed to be a few feet from the stage in Albany is an understatement.  That night in MSG was amazing though, with the exception of the Hammerstein shows I dont think I ever saw such an enthusiastic crowd.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: Mr. Redman on December 31, 2013, 02:31:51 AM
I wasn't there (but was there for Roseland - Handsome Dick is one of the best openers I have ever seen for GNR) but anyhow, I am looking for a shirt from the 02 MSG show; http://www.troccolitm.com/ShirtMSG.html?1271628605863

If ya happen to have one and would like to sell it let me know. Link and images thanks to Troccoli.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: stvyrayvhn on January 02, 2014, 02:01:00 PM
I was at the Boston shows, first time I saw the band in 10 years....  Mix Master Mike opened, he was fantastic as well.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: draguns on January 02, 2014, 05:30:42 PM
huge storm! I remember no school and almost in tears because of the thought the show was gonna get cancelled, but for once NJ Transit came through! And the Hammerstein show I went too May 2006 was the Izzy return and Kid Rock show, super killer stuff

Please don't remind me.lol :) I got into an argument with my manager at that time. We were supposed to leave early that day for an employee Christmas party at 4. I asked my manager if I can skip the party and leave early for the concert. She said no. I was so ticked off at her. When I got home, my childhood friend said he was bailing out on me due to the weather. He said that if I were able to sell his ticket, I would keep the money.  I tried to get to the bus stop, but couldn't.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: russkwtx on January 03, 2014, 11:55:39 PM
I had primo tickets for 12.9.02 in Dallas and was victimized by the cancelation. I was so bummed. At least I got my money back from Ticketmaster, which was a surprise considering what total assholes they are in ripping off customers with outrageous fees and a buying process that can only be described as opaque.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: WAR41 on January 06, 2014, 02:03:14 PM
I had 2nd row tickets for the South Carolina show while I was living in North Carolina.  I was very upset when the show was cancelled at the time.  At the time I had kept those tickets but unfortunately they got lost along the way. 

I remember calling the venue and pleading for information from them because the tour still was not 'officially' cancelled..  I was in college and that show was right in the middle of finals.  I had 2 finals the day after.  Finally the girl at the box office said "look, I can't tell you what is going on, but I can tell you that the band was supposed to check into their hotel today and they never showed up".  I thanked her and I avoided that 6 hour drive for nothing. 


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: D-GenerationX on January 06, 2014, 11:27:23 PM
I also think that Axl's high voice from 2002 suited songs like Madagascar, Think About You and SCOM much better than the rasp. The 02 Era is very underrated, so many amazing moments from that particular tour.  :peace:

I think he sounds tremendous on that tour on the new songs.  Most of my favorite 'Madagascar's are that tour.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: rebelhipi on January 07, 2014, 03:46:40 AM
I also think that Axl's high voice from 2002 suited songs like Madagascar, Think About You and SCOM much better than the rasp. The 02 Era is very underrated, so many amazing moments from that particular tour.  :peace:

I think he sounds tremendous on that tour on the new songs.  Most of my favorite 'Madagascar's are that tour.
Oh Yeah!


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: encoded on January 09, 2014, 05:32:37 PM

Yeah, thats a really good performance by Axl. Docklands too. The 02-gigs have been unfairly downrated imo.

The pukkelpop-show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_7v2sJkiYs) (and vma-performance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oz4VqyQASI)) are amongst my highligts from this era. Some Epic buckethead-solos here. : ok:

amazing you brought the pukkelpop show up, I was there but never found such nice footage of it ... thank you so much!!!

after the booing from the crowd(beeing late) I remember they played (3) new songs? and they sounded pretty good!

:edit: I still have audio on my ericsson t68i (all distorted, 10% of the quality of this footage) but still a proud owner ;-)
gnR4lfe


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: DizzyReed63 on January 14, 2014, 05:34:15 PM
I remember driving up to Philly for the Dec 6 show, listening to the MSG boots and being real excited.
Axl was getting better and more comfortable with each show.
The band had so much momentum, buzz and excitement. And then ... yeah.

Not to be a downer, but I'll never forget that night in Philly -
- Seeing the guy telling Mix-Master Mike to "keep going" until he got booed
- Watching the sound guy rip out all the chords, cover his shit and run
- The marching sound of the riot police shoving us out
- The fires, bottles being thrown and helicopters circling the area



Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: BangoSkank on January 15, 2014, 09:34:05 AM
I remember driving up to Philly for the Dec 6 show, listening to the MSG boots and being real excited.
Axl was getting better and more comfortable with each show.
The band had so much momentum, buzz and excitement. And then ... yeah.

Not to be a downer, but I'll never forget that night in Philly -
- Seeing the guy telling Mix-Master Mike to "keep going" until he got booed
- Watching the sound guy rip out all the chords, cover his shit and run
- The marching sound of the riot police shoving us out
- The fires, bottles being thrown and helicopters circling the area



Agreed.  I was 15 and so freaking excited to see Axl.  Then the boos, then chairs, then all hell breaking loose.

Even worse was prolonged and brutal silence that followed in the years after.  He kind of gave some insight at the Electric Factory, but still not good enough for me. 

On the other hand, I get why he?d have to keep his mouth shut.  I can only imagine the mountain of legal bullshit to sort through after something like that happened, especially with a corporation as big as Clear Channel and a band as big as Guns.


Title: Re: Can I bring up MSG 12/5/02??
Post by: Eclipsed107 on January 19, 2014, 04:28:07 PM
I think my favorite part of Philly was seeing people rip chairs out of the upper deck and throw them down onto the floor.  I'm just happy nobody got seriously hurt. 

All things considered I've gotten to see Guns twice, and my third time will (hopefully) come this year (never say for sure with Axl), and it's semi cool to say you were at a Gn'R riot.  haha.