Here Today... Gone To Hell!

Guns N' Roses confirmed for the Hell And Heaven Metal Fest 2014 @ Mexico City! (March 16th)

Now bring the rest of the dates on! Felicitaciones cabrones!

Official source: https://twitter.com/HHMETALFEST/status/411299024587595776

Source #2: http://www.lifeboxset.com/en-vivo/festivales/rob-zombie-en-mexico/
Source #3: http://www.sopitas.com/site/267975-kiss-y-guns-n-roses-se-suman-al-hell-heaven-fest-de-la-ciudad-de-mexico/
Source #4: http://warp.la/guns-n-roses-y-kiss-headliners-del-hell-heaven-fest-2014-57717

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Something about that date....  :hihi:




/jarmo

Is this a reference to the Ides of March? That's the 15th, not the 16th. So we should be in the clear.

And it's a day early for St. Patrick's Day, so no one should be on a piss up. That said......

i'm breaking my neurons trying to find out what's up with that date, any hint?  ;D

Cake.



/jarmo

LOL! Your birthday! You'll surely have some tequilas to celebrate!

I was planning already to assist this Festival now with GNR as a HeadLiner!!!!! AWESOME NEWS!!!!


GUNS N ROSES!!!!

Absolutely amazing news!!!...  ;D  ;D  ;D

2014 is shaping up folks, some exciting news over the holidays I feel.....now we need "warm up" club shows in NYC again  :peace:

Couldn't agree more.

haha thats a pretty awesome way to celebrate

hope this is the beginning of a great year for Axl and all involved   :beer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-aTp8N4llA

Some sort of presentation. Don't know why they still use videos of the old line-up in 2013, there's tons of good footage of the new one. It might be the promoters who put together these sort of things, but GN'R should put together a press kit including video and send them around for these purposes.

AGREED

Cool graphics, which computer game that is?

Great any comment on Monterrey???

I hope the band or whoever realize how far three never heard before songs would go with this fanbase.....

It's good to see them getting back out. I guess the breaking news rumor will turn out to be true.

Likely scenario. They want to sell tickets. Using old songs people remember are more likely to get the average rock fan to attend.



/jarmo

I enjoyed the audiences reaction when the GN'R part come on, even if it did contain video of the old line-up.  :D

Coolness ;D


send them a wtf-email :P

altho, there is little official video to use exerpts from.

KISS,TS and GN'R at the same 2 day festival, pretty darn impressive!!

Was a little concerned with the down time recently - this is real cool

Sunday March 16th: GN'R, Rob Zombie, Lamb Of God, Opeth, Testament, P.O.D. and so on: http://hellandheavenfest.com/lineup/

Edit: Here's the schedule:

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GN'R at 22:00/10PM. 2.5 hours.



/jarmo

Two weeks to go!

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/jarmo

Rumour is this just got cancelled due to security concerns...can anyone confirm this?

Looks like something fishy is going on there. Somebody's trying to cancel the festival? Not sure if it's somebody trying to score some political points or what.

http://www.texcoco.gob.mx/Metal%20fest%202014.html (http://www.texcoco.gob.mx/Metal%20fest%202014.html)



The festival has this on their site:

Comunicado Urgente!

A todos nuestros seguidores que se vieron afectados por la noticia publicada en diversos medios informativos el d?a de hoy sobre la supuesta solicitud interpuesta ante el gobierno del estado de M?xico para la cancelaci?n del festival, queremos informarles que solo son rumores infundados y ataques rid?culos para desprestigiar al festival.
Nos genera un gran malestar que medios y monopolios hagan este tipo de acusaciones y ataques infundados con el solo prop?sito de echar abajo un importante esfuerzo, cuyo fin no es mas que el de ampliar el abanico de eventos culturales dentro del territorio del Estado de M?xico y sus alrededores, atentando as? contra la reputaci?n de una empresa con a?os de experiencia en el medio, y sobre todo, contra el p?blico mismo al tratar de sembrarles dudas para evitar su asistencia a nuestro evento.
Debido a esto y para desmentir todo rumor, se ha convocado una conferencia de prensa ma?ana jueves 6 de marzo donde contaremos con la presencia de la Presidenta Municipal De Texcoco, as? como con las autoridades correspondientes para aclarar y despejar todos los rumores generados alrededor de esta noticia.

Les agradecemos su atenci?n, reafirmamos nuestro compromiso para con el p?blico del festival y les reiteramos que seguimos trabajando hoy mas fuerte que nunca.

Nos vemos este 15 y 16 de marzo.

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/jarmo

Can someone translate?

Google can.
Google says "not canceled".


They even replied on Twitter to people asking:

Sammy: @hhfest se cancel? o no??
Hell and Heaven Fest: NO




/jarmo

Political wrangling is all, the show will not be cancelled even though some people want it to be :)

Rock on Mexico!!!

They can't stop this band.  The people won't allow it!

The organizers say there were efforts made by some media and monopolies to spread rumours of an alleged cancellation of the festival. Because of that, they organized a press conference (held today) with the city's major, to clear all these things out.

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But here's an official confirmation of the show's cancellation from Mexico State's governor, due to the lack of a proper security http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2014/819860.html

The plot thickens....  This is just confusing now, hopefully for the fans in Mexico this is happening :(

Look on the bright side, lots of publicity over the whole issue.

The good thing here is that the band had NOTHING to do with this!  : ok: : ok: : ok:

I feel bad for the thousands wanting to attend though  :rant:

this is Mexico State's governor officially cancelling the show. He even says he likes ''GNR, I Used To Love Her and November Rain'' but as the head of a family, he cant allow and expose people to attend a festival of this magnitude if all the security measures cant be assured.

http://youtu.be/kRYsfLcwQRI

I feel bad for those who have paid flights & hotels to attend this, I'm sure many people have.  :no:

Hell And Heaven Metal Fest 2011
8 hours ago
Aguante Hell & Heaven Fest Oficial Aguante, vamos para adelante todos unidos por un pa?s con libertad de expresi?n.

Nos vemos este 15 y 16 de Marzo.

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All the tweets from their official Twitter says it's not canceled: http://twitter.com/HHFEST

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Edited to add: Their web site has some kind of update in Spanish: http://www.hellandheavenfest.com/



/jarmo

My Spanish is not good, but this update on their site basically says they had all the meetings with the people from the government a while ago and everyone was ok with the festival, supporting the legal issues, giving the legal 'oks' to run the event and they just hope this is not a political maneuver of any kind.

They also said it would be disrespectful to the fans all over the world, who will attend the festival, if it gets canceled.

Sounds very shady . the govt is so corrupt down there

sucks that the first show of this years shows is in jeopardy

Yes, that would be a disrespectful thing to do to paying customers.

Advertise something, sell tickets to it, then not have it happen.  I imagine that can be very frustrating.  All the more so if you had to make travel arrangements to be there.

That does seem like a dick move, I have to agree.

http://mexico.cnn.com/entretenimiento/2014/03/07/festival-metal-hell-heaven-fest-2014-texcoco-edomex




/jarmo

Good news!

They said the festival is going to happen even if they have to host it in another state.

The festival's Twitter account re-tweeted this from Gene Simmons: @genesimmons 3h: KISS MEXICO CITY STADIUM CONCERT IS ON. WE ARE DOING IT.

Maybe that's a hint...



/jarmo

Awesome!!  :beer:

I just don't get what happened here...what do they have to gain with such a stupid political fight? If it were unsafe, why waiting this long to say no to the festival? :rant:

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/jarmo

The PRI government is the main cause that Mexico is a country with high level of corruption,   :smoking:

I'm hoping that this is resolved to purchase a ticket to attend the event,  :nervous:

Here's a recap of the situation in English: http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=809992 (http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=809992)

In Spanish: http://mx.musica.yahoo.com/blogs/blogcanrol/hell-and-heaven-metal-fest-en-el-limbo---por-el-momento-001014694.html?page=all



/jarmo

What a total mess. Jarmo don't you know what GNR are doing?  :-\
Or maybe GNR don't even know what they're doing - I cannot believe the yes/no/yes/no that's going on in Mexico. Artists are tweeting they will be there but 16hrs ago the news says it's cancelled!!!  :no:

As far as I know, all the bands playing say it'll happen. That's what the organizers are saying.




/jarmo

Just posted today: Buenos d?as !
Pronto daremos a conocer toda la info necesaria acerca del Hell & Heaven Fest Oficial

Sigue en pie y confirmado nos vemos 15 y 16 de Marzo, la locaci?n esta pr?xima a anunciar.

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Apparently they're gonna make an announcement about the new location later today. Thanks to Google Translate!

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=672723789436537



/jarmo

According to official page of "Destruction", the event will be held in the "Parque Bicentenario":

http://www.destruction.de/concerts_1_en.html (http://www.destruction.de/concerts_1_en.html)

http://www.parquebicentenario.gob.mx/como_llegar.html (http://www.parquebicentenario.gob.mx/como_llegar.html)

The official statement from the organizers is yet to be announced,

So that's in Mexico City?


Yes, still waiting for the announcement.



/jarmo

Yes that's on Mexico City.
 
We are waiting for organizers announcement to make it official.


See you there GNR!!

Quer?taro Stadium In Puebla or Bicentenario Park In DF

 :beer:

The organizer continued without announcing the venue, making it difficult and annoying to the vast majority of attendees unable to make hotel reservations and travel options as the day of the event is closer  ???

With good reason the comments about the poor organization of the festival in previous versions and this time is no exception  :no:

Yeah, it's weird how they kept saying they'd announce in a "few hours" and a day later, not a word.

Their web site title says: Hell and Heaven Corona Metal Fest M?XICO D.F. 2014:
Was it always like that?

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Hell and Heaven Fest ‏@hhfest 1h
Banda les pedimos paciencia el HH14 se va a llevar a cabo en tiempo y forma. Paciencia por favor. #HHmasFUERTEquenunca!!!





/jarmo

Not Puebla & Not DF

 ???

Sorry but does this mean it is not cancelled and is going ahead, or it it is cancelled and being held elsewhere. I don't understand the tweet in the other language.

Thx

Officially cancelled. Refunds start within 15 days.

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/espectaculos/2014/cancelan-festival-metalero-concretar-sede-994696.html

 :-\

According to their Facebook page and Google Translate, they're still working on something.




/jarmo

It's weird what is going on there...

On one hand, Juan Carlos Guerrero says it's canceled...on the other hand, Javier Casta?eda says they have until today to announce the final site for the festival.

My opinion? I don't think it's gonna happen...I'm not rooting against it, but I don't think there will be enough time to put this back on the right track, and if there was no security problem earlier and it was all political blockage, now there will be security problems...

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Hell and Heaven's organizers contradict  each other

Juan Carlos Guerrero, spokesman for the festival, says the festival is cancelled; meanwhile, the organizer Javier Casta?eda said this Thursday the official site will be announced.

IV?N CASTA?EDA Y MILENIO DIGITAL
12/03/2014 09:43 PM
M?xico

The organizers of Hell and Heaven haven't yet confirmed if the event will be held this weekend nor where it is going to take place.

Javier Casta?eda, organizer of the event, assured it will happen, while Juan Carlos Guerrero, spokesman of the festival, announced its cancellation.

"The band are still confirmed, which makes us proud, as people from Guns N' Roses and Kiss sent people to help to save the festival. We are being victim of an outrage" said Javier Casta?eda to Carlos Z??iga of M?s Milenio.

Casta?eda affirmed tomorrow (Today, Thursday) a press conference will announce the new site for the festival.

For his  part, Juan Carlos Guerrero, official spokesperson of the event confirmed that the cancellation was a fact.

"The festival is canceled, possibly some of the bands dates are postponed, we will see if they want to reschedule some separated shows. But as of the concept of the festival it is already canceled" Juan Carlos Guerrero, official spokesperson of the festival, told to ihey!.

According to the organizer, the loss would be on the figure of 150 million pesos if the festival is canceled; though Juan Pablo Ruvalcaba, chief operating officer, denied this fact and said soon new information will be given.

http://www.milenio.com/hey/musica/Hell_and_Heaven_Metal_Fest-cancela-Juan_Carlos_Guerrero_0_260974486.html

Yeah, I think the idea of that festival at the original venue is gone. But maybe they can still have some kind of alternative event where festival tickets are valid.
Both headliners have played in Mexico before.... I don't recall any issues in 2011.




/jarmo

I think the previous editions of the festival were held in another state...this is all a political problem. Which I don't understand.

But if they manage to make it happen in another place, it would be heroic. But I wonder if there will  be enough time to properly build up the minimum structure needed for this kind of event (stage, sound, lights, bathrooms, food...) when there's no site confirmed yet.

Unless there is already a site ready to receive the festival and they are already working on the structure, but if this is the case, given all the repercussion it seems to be having on Mexican media, wouldn't we know it by unofficial sources by now?

Yeah, since it's a multistage festival spanning two days, it's not as "easy" as a regular stadium gig...


Their Facebook page update says they'll give information today (14th).




/jarmo

It's past 2PM in Mexico City. No news.





/jarmo

Just to start the press conference by the organizers, live from the official website, :-\

I believe it's canceled.

Sorry all fans in Mexico.  :(




/jarmo

Live press conference right now at: http://www.hellandheavenfest.com/

The organizers of the show say the dates 15 and 16 are officially CANCELLED, but they say they talked to the bands and they are showing good wills to re-schedule their shows.

They also said the tickets sold were 30/35k per day, and not 80k like that was being said.

True, they are already reporting the cancellation of the event,

The organizers tried to carry out Kiss and GnR concert in Mexico City, but the required permits were denied by government agencies,

"Super Boletos" posted on his Facebook page the method returns,

So sad, This would be my third concert of GnR  :crying:

This sucks.  :-\

That's weird. Both bands have played there in the past. Different promoters though.



/jarmo

Well, that must be why.

Were they reporting 80K, or just forecasting that much?

Tough break for the band. Are most promoters shady? How does this happen?

I saw media reports saying 40,000 tickets sold.

They were expecting sales between 50,000-80,000.




/jarmo

I saw an article saying 80k, but for the whole festival. Never seen anything about 80k each night.

CPitmanofficial: what a drag,  I was really looking forward to being in Mexico City,...hopefully again soon




/jarmo

sucks, was looking forward to reading the live updates during the show...this is quite the disappointing week for Guns n' Roses fans, but these things happen, bring on the 20th!

Jarmo, is there any way we can blame you for this?

Buuuuuuuuu

 :crying:

It is always Jarmo's fault, everyone knows this already :yes:

Sucks that the show is canceled. Sorry for everyone had plans. The only good thing is it was canceled by the organizers of the Heaven and Hell festival not the band.

150 millions lose production

DjASHBA: I'm f'n bummed about #hhfest getting canceled. I was really looking forward to it...we all were. Much love to all the good people of Mexico!



/jarmo

Due to unforeseen events, Hell & Heaven Festival has been cancelled... GNR regrets not being able to spend Sunday night with the fans who have been sooo excited about this show! We hope to get to Mexico later in the year.

gunsnroses.com (http://gunsnroses.com)



/jarmo

It's a shame but obviously it was out of control of GNR and their management. 

Honestly, what's wrong with some parts of the world?

I'm not expecting an explanation because there isn't one and nobody knows anyway.

I hope that an event is scheduled at the end of South America tour  :yes:

Perhaps my wife will accept attend this occasion, as the metal festival was not to her liking :nervous:

Meanwhile all the lucky fans will enjoy the next dates ?!  : ok: :peace:

AWW!!!



I hope so too :peace:

would be so cool to see this mexico-event happening

I was looking forward to seeing the setlist and some clips on YouTube..Guess I'll have to wait for RIR...hopefully it's televised and the clips will be top notch..

You don't need to wait for Rock In Rio. The first gig of the tour is on Thursday in Rio de Janeiro. ;)




/jarmo

"Hell&Heaven back in November with Kiss and Guns N 'Roses" according to interview with organizers,

http://entretenimiento.terra.com.mx/festivales-de-musica/hell-heaven-regresa-en-noviembre-con-kiss-y-guns-n-roses,bc23b7e0c12e5410VgnVCM3000009af154d0RCRD.html (http://entretenimiento.terra.com.mx/festivales-de-musica/hell-heaven-regresa-en-noviembre-con-kiss-y-guns-n-roses,bc23b7e0c12e5410VgnVCM3000009af154d0RCRD.html)

The venue is not revealed yet, they have to define between two states and schedule meetings with senior officials to avoid mistakes made in the previous organization,

 ::)

Guns N' Roses‏@gunsnroses?18 h
@PatienceEdna they're talking about November.. hopefully we can make that up! love Mexico!

 :love:

In a few hours will be held the announcement of the venue and official lineup, maybe GnR will be headlining the festival  :nervous:

https://www.facebook.com/hellandheavenmetalfest/photos/a.218710921504495.54830.216319191743668/760902190618696/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/hellandheavenmetalfest/photos/a.218710921504495.54830.216319191743668/760902190618696/?type=1&theater)

It seems that just one day (25/10/2014) and this time LIVE TALENT joins forces with OCESA and TICKETMASTER will sell the tickets,

 :peace:

November really isn't all that far off.

Guess we won't have to wait too long to see if we are down a guitar player or not.

No Gn'R  :no:  :crying:

https://www.facebook.com/hellandheavenmetalfest/photos/a.218710921504495.54830.216319191743668/761405190568396/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/hellandheavenmetalfest/photos/a.218710921504495.54830.216319191743668/761405190568396/?type=1&theater)

First Day

 :smoking:

It's unfortunate for the fans that got aced out of this show back in March.

However, if they actually use this time to finish up the album, I think that's a sacrifice that Mexican fans should be ready make.

Besides, if that actually is the case, they will obviously be back around on tour sooner than later. 

You are literally the funniest poster on this board at the moment.

Has there been any official word from management (or any members) about why they aren't playing?   Scheduling issues, working on new album, vacation, etc.  I thought they said something when it got canceled that they would like to play if it got re-scheduled.

No word about it from the organizers,

All the first bands (Kiss, Korn, Rob Zombie) are in the cartel, minus GnR replaced by Limp Bizkit, also it is just one day of H&H Metal Fest  :(