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The Perils Of Rock N' Roll Decadence => Duff, Slash & Velvet Revolver => Topic started by: Princess Leia on October 02, 2013, 07:19:56 AM



Title: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: Princess Leia on October 02, 2013, 07:19:56 AM
From his twitter

"Working on tunes. Its going to be a cool fucking record, this next one. "


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: Smoking Guns on October 03, 2013, 01:48:24 AM
Maybe have more of a bluesy stonesy feel.  Last album was good, but want more fun this time. 


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: rebelhipi on October 03, 2013, 02:51:21 PM
Maybe have more of a bluesy stonesy feel.  Last album was good, but want more fun this time. 
you mean something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30GZc50GnJQ  :hihi:


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on October 04, 2013, 10:53:09 PM
Exactly.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: overmatik on October 11, 2013, 08:50:26 AM
Wow, third album in a row and not a mention of Velvet Revolver. I am not holding my breath or anything but is hard not having new music by Slash/Duff to listen to. Regardless of anything, their chemistry is something special.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: JAEBALL on October 11, 2013, 12:29:25 PM
Im happy to get another Slash record.. I really like the last one

plus im not interested in a "VR" Record without Scott...it wouldn't be "VR"




Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: Princess Leia on October 11, 2013, 04:24:21 PM
Im happy to get another Slash record.. I really like the last one

plus im not interested in a "VR" Record without Scott...it wouldn't be "VR"




Well they do have Kings Of Chaos now. It?s not the same but they played together. I don?t agree about Scott. It was not Scott?s band and project. Duff and Slash wanted a singer and they hired Scott. Before that they spent a lot of time looking for a singer. All they could find available that was worthy of their idea of a band was Scott.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: overmatik on October 13, 2013, 01:03:52 PM
Kings of Chaos is just a nostalgia act, pretty much like... well, you know... ::)

Actually, the name is the least important thing. As far as I read, Slash played in bigger venues in his latest tour compared to the Libertad tour, right?

They could simply change the name and it would not make any difference, commercially speaking. What I really want is them writting new music and playing together. Oh yeah, and getting Gilby on 2nd guitar wouldn't hurt, either. :hihi:


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: jacdaniel on October 14, 2013, 10:39:19 AM
Velvet Revolver is clearly not high on their list of priorities.  Especially for Slash at least.
I'm sure he'll be spending the next 2 years releasing this album and touring it so there won't be anything happening with VR any time soon.

I'm excited for the next solo album though, his playing is much better on these albums.
Scott really limited what Slash could do with the guitar because he doesn't have a good range.

Excellent frontman all the same.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: hartman on November 27, 2013, 02:47:35 AM
I can't wait for this new album!


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on January 17, 2014, 12:15:10 AM
Slash and Izzy have been (by far) the most productive ex-Gunners in terms of putting out new albums.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: westcoast_junkie on January 17, 2014, 09:13:44 AM
Duff have put out more than Slash?


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: slash&axl on January 31, 2014, 10:14:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BfW3roOIAAABeWC.jpg)

Slash and Steven Tyler playing Dream on!


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on January 31, 2014, 11:56:29 PM
Alter Bridge is on tour so it makes sense that Slash is working on the album. I guess lyrics can come later. I wonder when Myles gets any rest. He is one busy singer.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: Bridge on February 02, 2014, 08:18:07 PM
Slash and Izzy have been (by far) the most productive ex-Gunners in terms of putting out new albums.

Nope, westcoast junkie is correct.....

Duff have put out more than Slash?

Duff has released two solo albums (including the ill-fated Beautiful Disease), at least two albums with Loaded, an album with Neurotic Outsiders, and two albums with Velvet Revolver.  So that's at least 7 that Duff has done.... did I miss any?

Slash has done two Snakepit records, two Velvet Revolver records, and two solo records so far.  That's 6.

So yeah, Duff is currently ahead of Slash in terms of quantity.  Izzy on the other hand, I lost count of how many solo albums he's done.  A lot though!


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: WAR41 on February 03, 2014, 10:12:19 AM

Slash has done two Snakepit records, two Velvet Revolver records, and two solo records so far.  That's 6.



Just curious, why aren't you including the 'Nothing Left to Fear' soundtrack? 


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: Bridge on February 03, 2014, 09:43:21 PM
Just curious, why aren't you including the 'Nothing Left to Fear' soundtrack? 

Touche!  I suppose I omitted it because, notwithstanding the title tune, it's a musical score rather than a rock album.  But let's count it!  That makes 7 for Slash.   : ok:


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on February 04, 2014, 10:10:38 PM
You are also forgetting his live album, Made in Stoke, plus the DVD of the same name, so that is at least 8 separate things. And that is not even counting all the "deluxe" albums from VR and solo which adds another 2-3 which may be counted as separate releases if one wanted to get technical.


And in addition, Slash has about 20-25 live shows from 2010-2011 that were professionally recorded and released by Abbey Road distributors, now named something else that I cannot remember. If anyone wants the URL I can probably track it down. They are still for sale.

2 Snakepit
2 VR
3 Solo CDs plus 1 DVD
1 Soundtrack
Countless professional live recordings not audience bootlegs

Do the math.

Even without the deluxe, I stand by my ability to count and to compose a factually correct sentence.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on February 04, 2014, 10:32:42 PM
And we should count the two live DVDs released by VR, one from Houston 2004 and one from Germany 2008. They are available on Amazon.com. So add those to the list and it appears that Slash and bands with Slash have released even more than Izzy, which is really saying something.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: WAR41 on February 05, 2014, 10:03:13 AM
Eh, live albums/DVDs shouldn't be counted in my opinion.  Studio albums only!  : ok:


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on February 05, 2014, 10:52:46 PM
^Anything that is available to the public for purchase counts. A release is a release and I don't see why a DVD or a live show would not count. The work still had to be performed. If nothing else it shows that the artist has his shit together enough to get something released for the public to buy.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: WAR41 on February 05, 2014, 11:50:10 PM
LOL, ok then I guess Pearl Jam released 50 albums in 2003 then.  Most productive band in history! 


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: suicide on February 06, 2014, 06:16:43 AM
In that case: don't forget the Abbey Road shows: http://www.disclivenetwork.com/detail.cfm?artistid=43


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: WAR41 on February 06, 2014, 10:07:55 AM
In that case: don't forget the Abbey Road shows: http://www.disclivenetwork.com/detail.cfm?artistid=43

Totally forgot about that, and you're right! We need to include those albums in his count also!   :P

On a side note I was at that Terminal 5 show.  I think I might get it haha. 


Purchased today! 


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on February 06, 2014, 10:38:40 PM
Yeah, in a previous post (scroll up) you'll see that I already mentioned the live Slash shows from 2010-11. I forgot the URL at the time but it is disclivenetwork.com (previously Abbey Road distributors). If anyone is interested, they are having a 60% off sale right now and you can order the Slash shows, or shows from a number of bands who were also professionally recorded live. These CDs are 100% official release quality and come with artwork and a real CD case, just like a regular CD that you would purchase at Best Buy or anywhere else.

Here's the thing, when talking about artists' production, the music industry does not arbitrarily exclude a live show or DVD. It says, for example, "Neil Young has released 24 albums in 30 years, including X number of studio albums." That is the standard. So I don't understand the reason for changing the standard, and I don't see why live shows or DVDs are "illegitimate" and do not count.

Whether you agree with the standard counting method or not, and irrespective of agreement with me and my argument, the fact is that Slash has been consistently productive since his departure from GNR. And for the record (no pun intended) we have not even mentioned Slash's Blues Ball that came during the 1997-1998 period, coterminous with Snakepit. They had several live albums released abroad (not in the US), which raises the question what is an official release? US only? What about releases in Japan, UK, or Germany? I remember buying several "official" releases of GNR in Russia in the 1998-2000 period, so would those count any less than a live show or best of compilation (which is what they were)?

My broader point is that instead of getting bogged down in 6 vs 7 or 8 vs 9, the fact is that some former GNR members  have put out numerous studio albums, DVDs, live shows, etc, whereas the current composition of GNR has one album and a long awaited live DVD that may or may not see the light of day.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: Bridge on February 07, 2014, 12:08:52 AM
I am not denying or arguing that Slash has been consistently productive over the years since GNR.  I've always supported that notion.  Ditto for Duff and Izzy as well.

Nevertheless, I stand in agreement with all those who count studio albums only in terms of being "productive".  The songwriting, recording, mixing, producing parts of creating a new record far outdistance those of merely capturing a recording of one night live, performing songs they've already mastered.  Hell, by the logic of including live albums (especially ones the band has nothing to do with beyond playing the show), the GNR Greatest Hits album may as well count for them all too.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on February 07, 2014, 10:49:15 PM
^And I think that is a very narrow point of view that is not supported by facts in the real world.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: russkwtx on February 07, 2014, 11:55:22 PM
My original statement, that set off a debate, was that Slash and Izzy have been the most "productive" of ex-Gunners, and I had in mind the totality of their work. My words were subsequently reinterpreted/misinterpreted so that "productive" was redefined as studio albums, something that I did not say and did not mean. To me, it was an empirical question that could be substantiated and verified by concrete evidence, and I referred to this evidence in previous posts. Like most everything on this board, every little statement is picked apart and argued ad nauseaum. My evidence was rejected by certain people who found it inconvenient to their narrow point of view. At this point, I don't care how other people define productive. I know what I had in mind, and I know what the standard definition is. It is what it is, so whatever, I am done with this conversation. Think what you want, I don't care.

Oh, and by the way, I have not received any tweets from any rock n' roll bands saying that they will return the royalties from live albums and DVDs because they do not "count" in their catalog of output. 

The end.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: GNR2014 on February 08, 2014, 06:51:38 AM
My original statement, that set off a debate, was that Slash and Izzy have been the most "productive" of ex-Gunners, and I had in mind the totality of their work. My words were subsequently reinterpreted/misinterpreted so that "productive" was redefined as studio albums, something that I did not say and did not mean. To me, it was an empirical question that could be substantiated and verified by concrete evidence, and I referred to this evidence in previous posts. Like most everything on this board, every little statement is picked apart and argued ad nauseaum. My evidence was rejected by certain people who found it inconvenient to their narrow point of view. At this point, I don't care how other people define productive. I know what I had in mind, and I know what the standard definition is. It is what it is, so whatever, I am done with this conversation. Think what you want, I don't care.

Oh, and by the way, I have not received any tweets from any rock n' roll bands saying that they will return the royalties from live albums and DVDs because they do not "count" in their catalog of output. 

The end.
And what about the 100 or so guest appearances that Slash has done on various studio albums over the last 20 years?

Slash is, BY FAR, the most productive member of Guns N' Roses. Always has been.

Here is what Marc Canter had to say about Slash in the 'Legendary Rock' interview:

"I remember when he (Slash) worked at Tower Records ... he talks in the book about how he was always drinking on the job but I know he really did a good job just like he always did a good job in the band, he always took his job seriously and was never a fuck up. He was an ace at the business end of things as far as the band went and was always working, always on the phone 24/7 and busted his ass to make sure rehearsals and sessions went smoothly and cost effectively. He was really very aware. When they were out on the road, he was busting his ass working and waking up at 8 o'clock in the morning to talk to 100 different reporters for press and everything. He was a terminator and there was nothing he would not do in the name of Guns N? Roses. He?s always been able to handle an extremely heavy workload and multiple jobs and somehow balance everything. I mean, I don?t know how he does it now but he does and he does it well."

:thumbsup:


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: GNR2014 on February 10, 2014, 07:26:05 PM
They are back to work tonight. I don't know about you, but I can feel the buzz.


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: Limulus on February 12, 2014, 05:16:23 AM
Slash is a work-animal, it's really crazy!
and i love not all but lots of songs he did write and release over the years  :peace:


Title: Re: Slash is working on his new record
Post by: WAR41 on April 01, 2014, 01:20:42 PM
From Slash's Twitter just now:

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I think we have a release date for the new SMK&C record. Will be announcing soon! iiii]; )'