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SCOTT WEILAND Is 'Completely Open' To Reuniting With VELVET REVOLVER - Nov. 21, 2012

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS frontman Scott Weiland tells RollingStone.com that he is excited about possibly reuniting with VELVET REVOLVER, which has been on hiatus since he was fired from the band in April 2008. "I am completely open to it, and I know there are other guys in the band that are completely open to it," he says. "There have been some things that have stood in the way that aren't anything that have to do with the band ? just other players, whether it be agents . . . But now we're sorting through things, and we want to start writing for some big film opportunities that have come our way, and try to set things up the way we set things up when we initially got together.

"I think it's the perfect time for VELVET REVOLVER to get back together," he continues. "Slash has done some great things, and I look forward to the opportunity to seeing him on my left and seeing Duff McKagan ? who, in my opinion, is without a doubt one of the greatest rock and roll and punk rock bass players of all time. And is still in amazing shape ? is more ripped than just about any 25-year-old on the planet. And with Matt [Sorum] and Dave [Kushner] as well, who are just incredible musicians. I think that's exciting to look forward to. It's the old clich?, 'If the gods of rock want it to happen, then it will.'"

On the status of STONE TEMPLE PILOTS, Weiland says, "I think we kind of overplayed ourselves by playing the same set over and over. I think the band needs to take some time off and be creative again. I always felt that our creativity and the growth we made within making records as artists was equally as important as we were as a live band. The transformation from 'Core' to where we ended up before we took that time off, when I started with VELVET REVOLVER, was enormous. I think we need to get back to that. I don't think that touring consistently with a greatest hits package gets you anywhere. It diminishes things."

During an appearance on Eddie Trunk's "Friday Night Rocks" radio show on New York's Q104.3 FM last May, Slash was asked whether there was any truth to the reports that VELVET REVOLVER was once again working with the STONE TEMPLE PILOTS frontman. "I talked to Dave Kushner and he said that he and Scott had some conversations at some point about getting back together. But I remember that was sort of Scott's M.O. when we did that reunion thing [VELVET REVOLVER reunited for a short performance at the January 'Love You Madly: A Concert For John O'Brien' at the House Of Blues in West Hollywood, California. (see videobelow) ? Ed.] So he's been interested in burying the hatchet and getting back together and sort of juggling this whole STP/VELVET REVOLVER perfect-world thing. And I'm, like, there's no way that's gonna happen. I love Scott ? he's a great guy when I'm not in a band with him. I'd just like to keep it that way. So there's no truth to this whole thing. [It's been given] way more attention than it even deserves."

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=182584

I wouldn't put too much stock in his statements on VR. His tour kicks off on Sunday he uses VR to draw attention to his solo shows. Would be a dream come true. I love what Slash is doing now but I don't know if the conspirators have anything left to offer for another album

Make it HAPPEN.

Am I the only one who thinks that Scott juggling VR and STP is a GOOD thing?

The guy is clearly insane and gets bored with the same old routine pretty easily.  So let him do VR for 2-3 years, then switch back to STP for 2-3 years.  He can do his solo stuff in between if he wants.  I know this decision is not his to make, he does have other bandmates who are arguably bigger than he is who might not be ok with that arrangement, but why the hell wouldn't you at least want to try? 

Slash is already writing with the Conspirators for a new record. Once they go in the studio to record its oever for VR unless they go on without him which will never happen

good news

I think we can probably file this in the "Scott's blathering on about something that's not even on the stove, let alone a front burner of said stove of the guy who wears a top hat and wants nothing to do with anyone with front man disease at this point in his career" cabinet.

Here he comes again... To me the best part about this interview is the fact that he is going to tour South America. I loved his last solo record and hope he plays lots of songs from that one.

As regarding VR, Slash is focused on his band, at least while Myles is in it.

Well said.  I'd love to see it myself, but I think Slash made it pretty clear that he wasn't interested in being in a band with Scott again.

In the end Izzy was right, it should have been the four of them and both Izzy and Duff could handle vocals. At least we would be able to listen to Dust N Bones, 14 Years and Double Talkin Jive live, not to mention the great songs they would surely write together...  :peace:

Would be cool.  I don't think anyone else can be the singer of this band.  They are very good together.

 I would love nothing more than to see it happen. Loaded used to be a great band when they did things old school, now you have to deal with possibly the must fucked up fanbase in rock history :o Slash's new stuff is bad; Let's be honest, Slash has really done nothing outstanding without Duff or Izzy involved. Sorum is definitely in, and Kushner is probably begging them to try it again. I say replace Slash with Dean DeLeo and go for it.

IMO, Slash is the hold up but I could be wrong. Matt and Duff are pretty high on Kings of Chaos and Duff has The Walking Papers and Loaded still but Loaded could very easily go on the back burner again.

if you replace Slash with Dean you have to replace Duff with Rob Deleo because those two will not sound good together. Rob provides his brother Dean with a perfect pocket. Duff and Slash work because both play aggressively and in your face

LOL, ok!  : ok:

I don't like the Slash and Myles project, also Duff's albeit infrequent musical efforts don't interest me either. VR had some decent songs, but Slash seems so wrapped up in this Myles crap lately that he won't even consider anything else ATM.  ::)

Now that he's sober he wants to get VR back. imo when Slash makes another record,tours it and Duff makes his Walking Papers run maybe then we'll have updates.

I think Alter Bridge has plans to get back together next year.

Slash and Duff have already said they like Scott but don't want to work with him on a full time basis. And in Scott's book, he was thrown into VR because his wife at the time convinced him to do it and the record label was making a big deal out of it. It didn't come together naturally, and it's Slash's doing on wanting major label backing and not do it the way Izzy wanted it, but could you imagine them doing a van tour?

It's just wishful thinking on Mr. Weiland's part I think.

Can't see VR working with a different front-man at this point. Work it out guys. Or move on without Slash if that is the holdup.

Are you serious?  You can't see them without Scott but you can see them without Slash?  I'd wager that the general public would see it exactly the opposite way, as Slash is a bigger star/draw than Weiland.

I think you are underrating the appeal of Scott Weiland. In the U.S. especially where VR shows were 50/50 STP & GNR fans. Overseas different story

I get what you're saying but I have to agree with Bridge, Slash is the main draw in the VR equation.

He's probably the most recognizable guitar player of his era and has unquestionably reached icon status worldwide.

I really think in order it for to be Velvet Revolver... you need Scott and Slash , it wont work without either one of them missing....

hmmm

i hope they can work it out

I agree that Slash is the main draw, but he doesn't do it on his own, otherwise his solo records and tours would perform like VR, which they don't.  It is the idea of STP AND GNR together that is VR's appeal, at least here in the states.  It was that combination that brought the "casual" rock fan into the equation, which causes them to sell more records and play bigger venues.  You had the diehard GNR and STP fans but you also just those general rock fans, the ones who don't buy Slash's or Scott's solo records but will buy a VR record.

well said Bodhi

You're mistaken about that, at least in Australia.

VR played a 5,000 seater venues on their first Australian tour, then for their follow up tour (which got cancelled) they were down to 2,000 seat venues, and Slash just toured here in Australia, playing a 10,000 seat venue.

He seems to have a bigger entity on his own, than VR ever got to.

You stated some good facts but unfortunately people don't listen because they believe what they want to believe. Slash will always be the stand out member of any band he's in because he's such an original. Not only is he an original, he's a very talented one!

I would be interested to see what the reception would be for this. The last VR album and tour was met with a whole lot of indifference. People I know were actually more excited about the STP reunion.

Interesting about Australia, how was STP popularity over there in the 90's?  Here in the states I don't know if there was a rock band who got more radio play than STP in the 90's.   There were some bands who got around the same but I cant think of any that got drastically more. STP was a massively popular band here for a while, and to this day are still pretty big.

What always amazed me about STP is how many hit songs they have.  I saw them a couple of summers ago, and I am more of a casual fan of the band overall, but I LOVE the Core album.  At the show they played basically all the hits and I was dumbfounded by how many popular songs I forgot they had. 

STP were popular, and got a lot of radio play. Probably not as much as Pearl Jam and alike, but still pretty popular.
The reformed STP played here a couple of years ago, and played one show at the same 5,000 seater that VR sold out 2 nights at on their first tour.

It's just odd that VR, touring off their second album, were down to smaller venues for their follow up tour, while Slash on his own is playing venues now double what VR and STP both are.
Mind you, VR's second album didn't do very well, and I don't really rate it either, so maybe their initial hype died own.

Meanwhile Slash is back to playing some of the best guitar in his career, and there's a resurgence in the popularity of rock guitar too.
Maybe they're all factors, but there's no doubting Slash's own popularity or star power as well.

From Duff before this interview with Scott...

DUFF KEEPS VR DREAM ALIVE

But in an exclusive interview with RUSHONROCK, McKagan said: ?All I can say is that I hope we will see Velvet Revolver play again.

?I hope that singer we?re searching for just steps in at some point and we?ll be good to go.

?The time away has made me realise how much I miss that band. I just hope to play with Slash again. When me and him play that rock n roll thing ? with Matt who is one of the best drummers ever ? it?s special.

?I miss that thing. But I always knew it would be difficult. I?m a realist. If it?s supposed to happen it will happen.?

Rush On Rock

Awesome to hear that from Duff.... though at the very least, he and Slash aren't resting on their laurels in the meantime.  It makes VR's absence easier to deal with.

Well, I never had any doubts about the fact that Duff misses playing with Slash, as I am certain Slash also does miss playing with Duff. The problem is that Slash has made up his mind on never putting himself again into a situation in a band in which there are "external factors" getting in the way of playing.

To me it seems that as long as Myles is willing to stay he will be releasing one solo album after another...

Wow.

"Slash has really done nothing outstanding without Duff or Izzy"

Wow. Just wow.

News flash for the rest of us earthlings.

Anastasia is pretty outstanding to me : ok:

I doubt Slash would be upset if Duff, Matt, & Dave decided to work with Scott, he'd prob. just say "I don't want to revisit that whole experience with Scott again, but if they want to, more power to them."

Using the VR name's debatable without Slash involved, but they can worry about band names another time.

They could get Scott Stapp as frontman. He's not doing anything if Myles is doing Alter Bridge.

Scott Stapp(spits out beer) You jokin right? Duff hates him. Makes fun of him in Creed all the time. When referencing late 90s "corporate rock"

Scott did and said a lot of things in the past, but I doubt Duff would say he hates him now, he would just acknowledge him as another fellow addict dealing with the same things he's dealt with.

I could see Scott doing a solo CD with Duff and Izzy's help on a few songs. That's my guess on what's going to come out of that.

I also don't think STP's done for good, they just need another long break apart from each other. That's prob. why there's no official announcement.

im a fan of scott (weiland) in any band hes been in and i would like to see him somewhere soon making music.

and i think velvet revolver could easily continue without slash and keep the name. (actually that would kick ass if they find the right guy)

some things didn't worked well for this band, everyone said it was the singer, but what if it is not?

they could work without Slash to see how it comes musically, there's a lot of good guitarists who can bring something here.

because it was like an indie band with a hardrocker guitarist

funny Guns was at that time an indie band with a hardrock singer

someone like Dave Navarro for example, could be very interesting

Yep, absolutely.

Slash has seemingly no real interest in VR now that he's got Myles and his solo thing doing well.

That is cool if that's where Slash's head is at, but Id like to see VR do something. Even with a new guitarist. I dont think Slash is irreplaceable. But I think Its got to be Scott or nothing. Makes it interesting of course since Scott fucks up fairly consistently.

Maybe VR could get Robin Finck  :hihi:

i was waiting for that one 8)

joking aside navarro would be the natural first choice because matt have played with him in camp freddy and duff also was in janes addiction for a while

Navarro's not the answer. His best days are far behind him, and were never really all that great in my opinion.

Replacing Weiland or Slash in VR seems pointless to me. They are both irreplaceable.
Without them, call it what it is, a new band.

Slash and Weiland were the main draws for me.
If you need a reference point on what happens when you try to replace players of their caliber, look no further than today's GN'R or Talk Show.
I enjoy all 3 bands/eras to some extent, but there is no denying the stark contrast between todays GN'R to the classic, or STP and Talk Show.

It would be a new sound, a new band, and need a new name.

it would be extremely ironic and amusing if Velvet Revolver continued on without Scott and or Slash and continued to use the name Velvet Revovler haha

 

I personally don't think Duff has much interest in the project without Slash. And it sounds like Scott was booted from STP for probably the same reasons VR tired of him.  A talented man, but not worth the headache after awhile. I don't see Slash or Duff going back to that. And Scott and Matt Sorum didn't get along one bit.

I agree with LongGone on Navarro, never quite understood the fascination there.

I agree.  He sucks.  Dave Navarro is a rock fashion show.

With all this drama going on I wish Duff would try to reunite Neurotic Outsiders...

agree i love that album!

http://loudwire.com/slash-scott-weiland-velvet-revolver-reunion-comments-were-not-buying-it/

Slash on Scott Weiland?s Velvet Revolver Reunion Comments: ?We?re Not Buying It?

Scott Weiland may have reunited with Velvet Revolver for a show early last year, but the singer?s comments about getting back together with the band are not exactly having the desired effect.
 
Slash, in particular, says the band members see right through the ploy and he doesn?t expect a reunion with Weiland to ever happen. He tells Classic Rock magazine, ?None of us have a clue what he?s talking about ? We?re not buying it.? The guitar great says he?s reluctant to even give the former Velvet Revolver frontman the attention, but did not hold back on his feelings about the matter. Slash recently revealed that Weiland had been fired from Stone Temple Pilots and he?s confident that the singer is trying to publicly wedge his way back into a job.
 
?I think he?s trying to pull off that trick of trying to get something else going on and we?re not buying it,? says Slash. ?The door?s shut on this side and it?s probably shut on that side too, so he?s on his own. And he deserves it too.? The guitarist adds, ?It also pisses me off because he?s put STP through so much s? over the years and put us through s? too when we were working with him. In 2008, that was all over with, so at this point, when he starts coming up with this stuff, it?s like, whatever.?
 
These days Slash says he?s in a good place and is not looking to reconnect with Weiland. He concludes, ?Even if I didn?t have my solo thing going on, I still wouldn?t work with him.?

^Ouch. Slash is usually a bit more diplomatic. I guess he has some pretty strong feelings about a reunion with Scott.

You're right, Slash typically is more diplomatic towards everything, but he's been in stated opposition to a VR reunion with Weiland ever since Weiland started talking about it (think back to Slash's priceless "WHAT?" reaction on that radio show).  Slash sounds obviously sick of the issue coming up, and god knows he probably gets asked about reuniting with Scott almost as much as Axl.

Geez, I am glad I got to see VR 3 times live.  Sounds like them reuniting is less likely than GNR reuniting.  I am also in the minority when I say I really liked Libertad.  I am still surprised people hate it so much.  Its sad to think that VR is done, but it really sounds like they won't be coming back ever. 

ill be suprised if after this scott wants to play with slash anymore.

Maybe that was part of Slash's motivation to use such strong words -- to get the point across to everybody, including Scott.

I think it's interesting that he speaks so strongly and honestly about his feelings about Scott, whenever he's never said (to my knowledge) anything nearly this aggressive about Axl. I know years ago he didn't exactly speak highly of Axl, but was it ever this..blunt?

I think Slash probably just doesnt have any kind of relationship with the guy and probably never did... they were just business partners...and its over now...

its a shame... i loved the band ...and wish they could have done more

Slash and Myles are doing some great things .. whether ur a fan of Myles or not... they have been successful

I've been listening to Contraband a lot lately, it has held up surprisingly well over time. I agree with Slash though, I wouldn't invest any more time in Scott. A good frontman but a pain in the ass to boot. Read Duff's book, it sounds like Scott made everything a major pain on the business side of things too.

Nope, not even close.   When Slash engaged in all of his Axl rants circa 2001, his strongest words were almost entirely directed at Axl's decision to keep the Guns N Roses name.  Slash said things like, "he should've called it a solo project, but now the GNR name is fucked up."  Rarely did he say anything else.

But then read Scott's book and see what Scott has to say about the VR split. The reasons Duff mentions for the break up are completely different from the reasons Scott mentions. Who knows who's telling the truth?

Scott has had his fair share of addiction issues, no doubt about that. But so did Duff and Slash during GN'R and they both also relapsed during VR. None of them are innocent when it comes to drugs.
I personally think Scott is an amazing front man and VR will never get someone as good as him. If Scott could be so easily replaced he would have been by now.

As for Slash's comment about Scott being on his own and that he deserves to be, now that's just a really low and mean thing to say. It's amazing to me how Slash can make such a mean comment and still people see him as the good guy.

I never read all of Scott's book so I don't know his take on the split. I have seen excerpts where he basically said he joined for the money and he wasn't exactly complimentary of the band's music. As far as the comment being mean, we're talking about grown men here. This is the 3rd time by my count that STP has parted ways with Scott so I would say Slash's comment has some validity.

Whether it's true or not (nothing indicates that it is true btw) Scott has been fired from STP it wasn't Slash's place to make that information public. STP should do that themselves.
Also STP have never actually broken up, they have simply taken breaks to work on other things and to get creative and excited about doing STP again.

agree.

If someone is deluding themselves and outright lying to people at the same time the easiest way to put a stop to it is to be harsh.

Scott telling people he was going to rehearse with the band and work on new songs for example, then he continued to talk about getting back with the band after it was said outright it wasn't happening.

The softly softly approach didn't work, maybe being a cunt will.

Because saying "he is out of his mind. He is fucking crazy" is doing it softly?

Slash has been an ass towards Scott since the VR break up. At times he is even extremely mean towards him.

At this point I don't even want a VR reunion with all this bitching going on. I will just look forward to Scott's new solo album.

at first it was always I don't want to put myself in that place, as the years have gone by it's gotten gradually more harsh.

The thing is Scott was of his head during the last UK tour they did. I have no idea how he held it together for the shows, it's a credit to him that he managed to but he was a mess.

He has since gone and repeated the same pattern of behaviour with STP, if he'd managed to keep himself together and wasn't spouting nonsense to the press then there would be no need for the harsh comments which get sent his way.

VR re-unions as one off events will be fine, but I don't blame any of the members for not wanting to commit to anything more than that with Scott, at least until he proves he can keep himself together on the road.

I feel blaming everything on Scott's drug use is a cop out. All of them except for Dave did drugs on the road with VR and all went to rehab. Also Scott is clean now. What went on with STP is not about drugs, its about the relationship between the members. Sometimes they get along and other times they don't, its natural for a band who has existed for so long to go through rough patches.
 
The VR break up wasn't just because of drugs. It was about money, greed and wives getting too involved. Scott in his book said it came to the point where Perla sat in on band meetings and wanted to decide what the band should do. If I'm not mistaken Duff also mentions wives getting involved in his book, he doesn't mention any wife by name though. So like I said, its way more than just a drug issue, so that's why I think its a cop out when its all blamed on Scott and his drug issues especially since he is clean now its obviously not what is standing in the way of a reunion.

Sure, they all fell off the wagon and ended up in rehab during the VR run. But it moves into different territory when you're showing up late for gigs and being a sloptart on stage like Scott was towards the end. Also, notice how Scott (or his people) are now talking about a solo album and tour dates this year. Maybe Slash's comments finally shut down this VR reunion nonsense?

Scott was on tour when Slash said he deserved to be alone, so its not like his tour and new album is a reply to no VR reunion. It was planned previous to those comments. Its not like a VR reunion is all Scott has left like some people seem to think.

This is the second time Slash and co has fallen out with a lead singer so maybe just maybe they are a part of the problem.

There will be no VR reunion with Scott, he gave them hell when they had him and they do not want him back. And when I say they I mean all 4 remaining VR members. Slash finally got enough of his carp and has made it public. But since you think so highly of Scott maybe you should speak to the remaining members of STP. Maybe you can talk them into taking him back. Or are they "part of the problem" also?

We don't even know if Scott has been fired from STP! The only word we got to go on is Slash's but of course you're gonna believe Slash because no one ever questions a word Slash says, epsecially not when it comes to speaking ill of his former lead singers.
"Since you think so highly of Scott" please! look at how you think so highly of Slash you take his word for Scott being fired from STP without no confirmation from STP themselves!

Until either Scott or another member of STP comes out themselves to say Scott has been fired I don't believe it. STP might've had their share of problems but they never trash talk each other in the press like Slash does with Scott (and Axl) They fix their problems internally and they have survived as a band for many years unlike the bands (except GN'R) Slash has been a member of. The fact that he has been involved in two big break ups in bands suggests to me he is part of the problem.

I would argue that since Scott nor anyone from STP has come out and denied what Slash said that there's some truth to it.

STP often don't speak out about rumors though. I will need more than Slash's word on this.

I could totally see STP taking a break though like they have before, but that is not the same as Scott being fired.

I would imagine they are pretty reluctant to tell anyone that Scott is fired. They probably know full well that they'll get back together and play shows at some point and if you keep saying he's fired or they broke up it looks like you're jerking the public around.

That's why I don't think he is fired, but they are simply taking a break. Plus I don't think they even can fire Scott. What are they gonna do? Get a new frontman? I don't think so. Without Scott there is no STP just like without Scott there is no VR.

Slash was the lone holdout with Corey Taylor.  And I think at this point, if Slash were on board, the rest of the guys would give Scott another go.

No one has called Slash out about it because he got the news from one of the STP members. Did some of you people actually think that Slash got this news from one of the roadies? At this point Scott has been fired from STP I have no Idea if they will reinstate him or not.

Yes I agree.

Slash got the news from an STP member? How do you know that? Did Slash say he got the news from a STP member?

Semantics guys - he said/he said at this point.

Weiland's getting ready to go on the road as a solo act shortly so that should tell us all something.

He has been on solo tours before so it's not like it tells us he has been fired.

They're not going to work with Scott if Slash doesn't want to. 

Remember last May when it was "announced" VR was getting back together:

Slash added, "I talked to Dave Kushner and he said that he and Scott had some conversations at some point about getting back together.

From Duff last fall:

?The time away has made me realise how much I miss that band. I just hope to play with Slash again. When me and him play that rock n roll thing ? with Matt who is one of the best drummers ever ? it?s special.

They did the mini-reunion benefit show for John O'Brien last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTwed6j4O1c

But Slash has made it VERY clear there is no way Velvet Revolver will reunite with Scott Weiland.  So that's that.

Again, semantics.

Fired/not fired - who cares?

STP is an inactive entity for now and the foreseeable future so does it really matter if he was axed or they're choosing to take an unannounced extended break?

A front man fired can always be rehired, a band on hiatus can always reunite.

I care because I'm a fan of STP.

Thanks for posting this. I knew Duff was for a reunion but I couldn't remember where he said it.

As much as I don't think it's going to happen, I would like to see them get back together with Scott. It would as least be interesting. More so than anything they're doing now.

Understood.

Fan nonwithstanding, fired/hiatus makes little to no difference in the business of music these days.

As long as there's cash on the table to tour there's always the possibilty/probability of reuniting regardless of how things appear to have ended.

I know you're talking about STP here, but this could apply to Velvet Revolver as well. ;)

To a degree I suppose.

Dean Deleo needs Weiland a helluva more than Slash does but both seem to have had enough of Scott.

For now at least.. ;)

Dean may not have the celebrity status that Slash does but I think Slash needs Scott just as much tbh, right now he is just too bitter to accept it. It's pretty obvious that Slash had a lot more succes (album sales, played bigger venues etc) when he was in VR than what he is doing now with Myles Kennedy (at least here in Europe)

Like LunsJail said, at least a VR reunion would actually be interesting unlike what they're all doing now. I'll have to agree with that.

the sad part is that slash is actually playing in bigger venues now than 5-7 years ago with vr :(

Not in Europe he isn't. VR headlined Roskilde Festival when they played in Denmark in 2005. Next month Slash and Myles are playing in Denmark in a venue with room for only 2000 people.

cool. my judgement is from finland where hes about to play to sold out crowd of 10 000 people (needles to say im not a part of that 10 000 people and have no interest to be) and when vr came to the same city in 04 they played in a arena with 5000 people.

gosh i miss vr...

Yeah I'm not going to his and Myles show in Denmark, I have zero interest in it. If it was VR who were playing I'd be there in a heart beat though

Exactly. Would the buzz of a VR reunion generate enough $$$$ for Slash to give up the Conspirators which he is making a killing on since he solely owns everything

I don't think so.

That and the added bonus of not having to deal with an unstable singer with issues far beyond front man disease.

yep

Apparently Scott's on tour solo doing ST"S "Core" and "Purple" in their entirety.

As noted in the thread - translation: STP and VR have no desire to play with him at this point.

http://forums.metalsludge.tv/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=285079

Got no idea if this is correct or not. But the GNR Farm guy said to me shortly after the Hall Of Fame show that he heard VR was going to reform but with Gilby and Myles rather than Dave and Scott.

At the very least this is an interesting possibility. Myles is a great singer and plays guitar and Gilby rocks.

In a way that would be cool, as it would be GNR MK III without Axl, something I wish had been attempted as early as 1997. On the other hand, Duff and Dave seem to be very close, and I guess it would feel awkward to Duff to replace him. Unless they went by another name...  ???

Scott and Dave are very close so maybe that's why Dave wasn't gonna go for VR with Myles as a singer and they thought of Gilby instead?

I like Gilby but Myles is the wrong choice for VR. He just doesn't have "it".

Who is the GNR Farm guy and how would he know this?

Don't know guys name. He runs a website called gnrfarm.com. After Izzy and Axl didn't turn up to Guns Hall Of Fame induction, Matt, Steven, Duff and Slash played short set with Gilby and Myles. He just heard that as Gilby's still got that spark and chemistry with Duff, Matt and Slash and Myles cool too that when Slash and Myles were done with their current album that Gilby n Myles were gonna' join VR.

I have no idea if this is true or not. Just what this guy heard.

Sounds unlikely to me.  I'll believe that when I see it.  In fact, I'll believe anything is going on at all with VR when I see it.

I would say all signs point to VR being done completely. Without Slash nothing will happen there and I don't think he sees any reason to go back to it. I don't even know if it would be all that successful anyway with the state of rock music being what it is nowadays.

VR split up nearly 5 years ago.  Slash is happy and his playing is far better than anything he produced during the VR days.
Time to move on I think. 

Slash had this to say while on tour in Hungary.  It looks like he answers Velvet Revolver will happen at some point, but without Scott.

The translation is bad, maybe someone can do better.  Here are a couple of interpretations of his answer...


Milyen a viszonyod Scott Weilanddel? Lesz m?g Velvet Revolver?

Slash: Scottal semmilyen viszonyban nem vagyok. Lesz m?g Velvet Revolver valamikor, de nem Scott lesz az ?nekese az tuti.

What is your relationship with Scott Weiland? There will be Velvet Revolver?

Slash: I am not in any relationship with Scott. Velvet Revolver will have at some point, but Scott will be the lead singer for sure

or

Slash: I'm not in any relationship. Velvet Revolver will be even more at some point, but not the lead singer Scott will be the cool

Interview: http://langologitarok.blog.hu/2013/02/07/slash_horrorban_es_rockban_utazik

Stone Temple Pilots Fire Scott Weiland

Just yesterday, Weiland emphatically denied the band had let him go


By Andy Greene
February 27, 2013 10:55 AM ET

Stone Temple Pilots have parted ways with lead singer Scott Weiland. The group announced the decision this morning in a single sentence press release: "Stone Temple Pilots have announced they have officially terminated Scott Weiland." STP reformed in 2008 after a five year hiatus and toured heavily through last year. It's unclear if they plan on carrying on with a new vocalist.

By apparent coincidence, Rolling Stone spoke with Scott Weiland late yesterday and he denied all rumors that he had been fired from the band. "STP has not broken up," he said.  "I haven't quit. I haven't been fired." The rumors began a couple of months ago when Slash said in an interview that STP had fired Weiland.

"Slash doesn't know anything about STP," Weiland countered yesterday. "We're talking right now about when we want to tour next."

Weiland is launching a solo tour next month that will focus almost entirely on material from the first two STP albums, but he insisted the band very much remains a priority. "My personal feeling is that we need some new blood in the band," he said. "We've been playing the same greatest hits set since we got back together. I'd like to make a new record. It will breath new life into the group."

He does acknowledge the group has been going through a rocky period. "There were some hurt egos," he says. "But that's the way it is.  No one has ever fired anybody in STP. We're like a family. It's also a partnership. I started the band. We've always kept things going. We've taken time off before. They've done their own projects and I fully support that. No one has been fired and I haven't quit. That's all hearsay."

Rolling Stone reached out to a spokesperson for Weiland about the band's statement and will update this story when we get more information. Check back soon for an extended interview with Weiland about his upcoming solo tour, his desire to return to Velvet Revolver and why he feels reputation as a difficult bandmate is undeserved.


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stone-temple-pilots-fire-scott-weiland-20130227

Slash does not know anything about STP..lol-they just put out a press release this a.m. saying Scott was fired 8)

This is very strange. By saying Scott is fired they mean to continue with the band name and hire another singer. That would be a huge mistake...

I guess Talk Show isn't that great of a trademark, eh?  :rofl:

I posted this on 1/21, I guess everyone can believe it now!

I wonder why they chose to announce this now. Maybe they caught wind that Scott was giving interviews saying he hadn't been fired?

So Scott has been fired from STP, interesting.

Well, we now know he's available -- why he's "completely open" to reuniting with Velvet Revolver.

And it looks like he still is...

This would be great news but we all know Slash will ruin it and prevent VR from getting back together.  That is totally Slash's right by the way, I just wish he would stop boring us to tears with the Myles Kennedy collaborations.  Slash's solo record with all the guest vocalists was without question the best and most INTERESTING thing Slash has done since the Illusions...go do that.

There are so many great vocalists out there who I know Slash has never heard of because I doubt his record collection has anything more recent in it than Aerosmith's "Rocks."  Broaden your fucking horizons man!

Bummer.
He must deserve his reputation of being difficult, because he's as talented and entertaining a frontman as there is in rock today.

Deleo brothers have written some incredible music together, but really hope they are not delusional enough to think carrying on as STP w/o Scott would be a good idea.

He's irreplaceable.

Other than that, look forward to hearing what everyone does next.

UPDATE, 2:40 PM EST: Scott Weiland has released the following statement to Rolling Stone through a spokesperson:

I learned of my supposed "termination" from Stone Temple Pilots this morning by reading about it in the press.  Not sure how I can be "terminated" from a band that I founded, fronted and co-wrote many of its biggest hits, but that?s something for the lawyers to figure out.  In the meantime, I?m looking forward to seeing all of my fans on my solo tour which starts this Friday.  ? Scott Weiland

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stone-temple-pilots-fire-scott-weiland-20130227

So Slash's comments 3 months ago didn't clue him in that all may not be well with his STP employment?

Scott also said last year he would tour with VR in the fall of 2012, and that he was writing songs with them-he is either using again, outright lying about things, or has just plain lost it.

Scott has stared to make noise that when his solo tour is over that he would be working with STP again on a new album. I guess they finally decided to make it public to shut him up.

He knew it must have slipped his mind.

Weiland is officially out of STP.....

http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/music/news/stone-temple-pilots-fires-singer-scott-weiland/

so, it seems like stp fired scott without telling him.

i have a feeling that in a couple years they will sort their problems and do another tour.

Q&A: Scott Weiland on the State of Stone Temple Pilots, Velvet Revolver and His Solo Tour

'I'd love to return to Velvet Revolver, but it's not something that I can control'

FEBRUARY 28, 2013

Weiland called Rolling Stone on Tuesday afternoon to chat, and we asked him about Slash's statement that STP had fired him. He emphatically denied it. Sixteen hours later, the band put out a single-sentence press release: "Stone Temple Pilots have announced they have officially terminated Scott Weiland."

Scott Weiland: As far as Velvet Revolver goes, I'd love it if it happened. But it's not something I can count on, and it's not something that I can control. If it happens, it'll happen. It would be a great thing. I know the fans would love to see it, but I respect that Slash has a solo career and he wants it to succeed the same way that I would like my solo career to succeed. Having said that, whether things work out in a timely fashion, and if it's quarterbacked right by the team and we all work together . . . it's all very sensitive right now, but I'd like to do it. It would be fun.

I've always been good at juggling my musical adventures between different bands ? the Magnificent Bastards, solo projects, STP, Velvet Revolver, as well as doing things with different artists, like Cyndi Lauper and a lot of other people. I think you need to do that stuff as an artist. That's the way things were done in the Sixties and the Seventies, even to the Nineties. People like collaborations. Maynard [Kennan] is a really good example of how things can be done right. That's what I would like to do. I'm not going to force anything to happen. I want it to sort of happen organically.

Slash seems to be the source of some of the rumors about you. He said STP fired you, and he said he doesn't want you back in Velvet Revolver.
Slash said STP fired me?

Scott Weiland: Yeah.
Oh, no no no. Slash doesn't know anything about STP. Those guys wanted to get together to talk about touring, but I don't think touring right now is the best thing. STP has a legacy, and to protect that is very, very important to me. But to go and do the kind of offers that we were getting would be diminishing the brand, and I don't want to do that. There are offers right now. There are offers that I passed up on. There's offers that those guys didn't want as well. There were some hurt egos, but that's the way it is. Things are like a family. No one's ever fired anybody in STP.

It's the same thing with Velvet Revolver. The whole thing that happened in VR is that I was called by [Stone Temple Pilots guitarist] Dean [DeLeo] while I was on tour with VR. He said, "There are a few festival offers. Would you like to do something?" So I approached the guys in VR. They said, "Yeah, just a few shows? No problem." Then we went on tour in Europe. We were there for a long time, and everyone in the band went through some difficult times in their own way.

Nobody is perfect, but I do regret some of the things that I said, as I'm sure some of the other people do. Matt [Sorum] and I did get into an argument at the last show we played. I do remember saying something from the stage like, "This is the last Velvet Revolver show that I will ever do," and that I was quitting. I regret saying that. It was something that I said in the heat of the moment. I did not . . . it embarrassed them. I shouldn't have done that. It was an immature move. If I could take it back, I would. I still feel like something will happen. If it doesn't, there's other things to do.

Slash also said the "door was closed" as far as you returning to Velvet Revolver. He was pretty emphatic about it.

Scott Weiland: Well, the thing in interviews is . . . and it's the same with every interview I've ever given, is that words somehow get changed and edited. Then when you're doing a radio interview, someone asks a question, you answer it, and then they sort of push you into a direction, into a corner, to say something that doesn't really come out of it. You end up becoming defensive just to shut up that question.

I remember when Slash started doing his solo thing. He said, "I don't want to talk about Velvet Revolver." Just like I said before this interview. I said, "I don't want to talk about VR or STP." They said, "Well, we're going to." My manager said, "Well, shit, do you want to do the interview or not?" I said, "Well, sure, I'll still do the interview. I'm a nice guy. I'll do it." But you can't control what happens in the press. I'd say something more along the lines of, "You know, we'll see."

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/q-a-scott-weiland-on-the-state-of-stone-temple-pilots-velvet-revolver-and-his-solo-tour-20130228

I wonder if this will hold any weight with Slash.

Why would it it? They decided to fire Scott months before this particular incident. Duff's book gave the best insight into their problems with Scott and a lot of it is business related. I don't think they want to get back into that whether he's sorry about certain things or not.

Slash gave an interview to finnish TV a couple of weeks ago. He said something like he would like to do one more VR record in future. And that they don't have a singer..!

I could see Matt and Duff putting it in the past, and isn't he already friends with Dave Kushner.  But I agree, I don't think it will hold any weight with Slash.

Scott may have better luck reuniting with STP at this point.

Let's face it; Slash has got Myles now.. no way he's getting back to working with Scott again

SCOTT WEILAND Says STONE TEMPLE PILOTS 'Termination' Is Publicity Stunt - Mar. 1, 2013

Singer Scott Weiland claims that STONE TEMPLE PILOTS' announcement of his "termination" from the band is nothing more than a publicity stunt in order to hype an upcoming concert tour.

Speaking to TMZ.com at the Los Angeles airport prior to the launch of his new solo tour, Weiland said: "STP is not broken up. It's a whole thing to try to boost ticket sales."

According to Scott, there the members of STONE TEMPLE PILOTS are forbidden from using the name STP on another group unless all the individual musicians are involved.

Asked if he's still fronting the band, he replied, "I started it."

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=186880

Video: http://www.tmz.com/2013/02/28/scott-weiland-stone-temple-pilots-fired-lie-ticket-sales-tour/

What a complete mess! If indeed there is such a clause, then the DeLeo Bros won't be able to get another singer to front STP, and the nature of their statement loses all meaning. Until one of them come out and explain things we can just wait.

It's pretty sad, though. If they don't want to work with Scott anymore just end the band and put the name to rest. :(

It sounds to me like Weiland has lost the plot

I'll openly say that I've never been a Scott Weiland fan. I got VR's albums as I'm a fan of Slash, Duff and Matt and the obvious sound they're gonna' generate together. Whilst I'd love to see those three plus maybe Gilby get another group going or do something together, I'll be fucking stoked if they never work with Scott again.

And as to Scott himself. I hope the solo thing works for him, I really do. As for whatever reason neither STP or VR want him back.

I suppose you could call it "business" since it affected business.  In Duff's book, he talks about how Scott fell off the wagon (again) and got into smoking crack, how Scott would nod off at the mic during a song and then wake up and start singing the song wrong, and (most of all) how Scott was showing up late to their shows.  The latter of which made Duff ponder "haven't I been through this before?"

Right after they fired Scott, Slash gave an interview about how they absolutely weren't going to go through those things again (after dealing with Axl) and we know now exactly what he was referring to.

So yeah, I'd say that they're just plain done with Scott, and anyone like Scott.  They just don't want to keep enduring that problematic, cancerous lead singer syndrome.

interesting

I said business in reference to Scott demanding a bigger piece of the pie than the original 5 way split.

I think the only way Velvet Revolver could make a decent go at it, is if Scott was involved again. There's been way too many other singers associated with Slash n' co within the last few years, to make just another "singer" take the spot, would make it boring and generic.

At least with Scott back in the fold, you know he is VR, just like they were back in 2003.

Thanks to Rocketboy at the Stone Temple Pilots forum...


I stuck around after and got to meet Scott. He was really nice and stopped and talked to fans for a bit, sign some autographs and take a few pictures.

He talked a bit about the STP news/drama, basically saying the firing stuff is nonsense and he can't be fired, as it is stated in their contracts.
He said that the guys wanted to do a big 26 week tour, May-December (2012, I assume), but Scott said he wasn't up for it - he really wanted to take a break and be with his family for a bit, because he hasn't taken much of a vacation the last few years and the boys weren't happy about it.

He wouldn't say VR is getting back together, but he would like to and there is a possibility for a reunion.

Duff and Dave writing songs for Scott doesn't mean there's a VR reunion.

Scott has the right idea, as far as doing what Keenan does, but it reminds me more of Vince Neil's drunk club shows.

There's different opinions on whether or not VR with Scott should make another album, and it has to do with how Libertad did. I think there is some motivation to want to make a 3rd album by Dave, Duff, Scott, and Matt. Slash isn't even going to consider it, but this might be one of those things they record 1 song here, 1 song there for, the same way it started out.

Or get Dave Navarro. Duff and Dave still Tweet back and forth, so there's no animosity from Duff bailing on JA.   
 

Navarro yuck!

Scott Weiland Wants You to Root for Him

March 6 2013

The volatile frontman shares his secrets for a life in rock

Tired and a bit frigid, but definitely not broken, the 45-year-old rock survivor shared some advice.

People would come up to me and say, "Scott, people really root for you." I haven't heard that in a long time, and I don't know why.

It was a very special thing that people would say, and I would hear it all the time. But the interesting thing is that it's been almost 11 years since I used drugs, and I don't really hear it [anymore] except from my friends. There's another side of it that I take personally. For example, we had to cross into Canada last night to make it to the show in Niagara Falls, and we went to the border crossing. There was this really cool [customs official], and he took our passports and he asked us if we had anything to declare. We told him we had a little bit of food, a little bit of beverages, and on days off, some of the guys in the band would play some paintball. So we thought everything was cool. He says, "Just pull over on the side for the routine inspection." So we pull over to the side, and as luck would have it, this Mr. Mountie Friendly read us the inquisition about past transgressions decades long-gone. That's a life I barely recognize anymore, and the point is, I've been on tour throughout Canada over the last couple decades many, many times. I've never been treated that way before. It was kind of shocking, and it was actually kind of humiliating.

http://www.spin.com/articles/scott-weiland-stone-temple-pilots-interview-words-of-wisdom

"But the interesting thing is that it's been almost 11 years since I used drugs"

This was a joke, right?  ???

After rediscovering some STP songs, then listening to Velvet Revolver ... musically, Scott was not what was wrong with VR ....

I didnt realize there was something wrong musically with VR.
They just stopped creating/performing music.

Yeah, they never said they had a musical problem with him, just that Scott was an unbearable pain in the ass to deal with.

Scott had his moments, then he had his big machine moments.

Absolutely true everywhere in the world except the usa. Slash might have a slight edge here but its close