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2012 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony: In 4 Days

May 1, 2012 by HBO

Tune in to the 27th annual Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony on Saturday, May 5th at 9PM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3rzxdBPVs&feature=plcp

The Buzz: 2012 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony

Apr 30, 2012 by HBO

Take a look at the 2012 Rock & Roll Hall of fame Inductees. Don't miss the Induction Ceremony on May 5th.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cmet7a_jUKY&feature=context-chv

HBO 2012 Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame Induction Ceremony

http://www.hbo.com/the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-2012-induction-ceremony?cmpid=ABC1207

2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY, DEBUTING MAY 5TH, BRINGS A LEGENDARY NIGHT OF MUSIC TO HBO.

05.01.12

Inductees Include Beastie Boys, Donovan, Guns N? Roses, Freddie King, Laura Nyro, Red Hot Chili Peppers And Small Faces/Faces

Beastie Boys, Donovan, Guns N? Roses, Freddie King, Laura Nyro, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Small Faces/Faces are among the inductees on the exclusive HBO special 2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY, debuting SATURDAY, MAY 5 (9:00-11:30 p.m. ET/PT). The 27th annual induction ceremony was conducted April 14 at Cleveland?s legendary Public Hall, just steps away from the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum. The HBO special features long-awaited performances, momentous jams, reunions of former band members and moving speeches from both presenters and inductees.

HBO Signature will present a 24-hour marathon of the HBO special beginning at midnight the same day the special debuts on HBO, and concluding Sunday, May 6 at midnight.

Other HBO playdates: May 10 (7:30 p.m., 3:20 a.m.), 13 (2:00 p.m.), 15 (3:00 p.m., 12:30 a.m.), 19 (5:15 p.m.), 28 (12:10 a.m.) and 31 (1:30 p.m.)
HBO2 playdates: May 12 (6:00 p.m.), 17 (11:45 p.m.), 21 (9:30 a.m., 10:00 p.m.), 25 (5:30 p.m.) and 30 (1:50 a.m.)

USA Today described the live event as ?raucous? and ?star-crossed,? while AP deemed it a ?rowdy celebration.? The New York Times said the night featured ?blistering jams and shaggy dog stories about rockers? early years? while the Cleveland Plain Dealer called it a ?musical extravaganza.?

Among the moments captured in 2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY are:

Beastie Boys were inducted by Chuck D and LL Cool J. Chuck D noted, ?There?s no adequate measure for the impact that the Beastie Boys had on rap music and yours truly, Public Enemy, during our formative years. Artistically, just like my man back here [LL Cool J], they are our role models.? Mike D and Ad-Rock accepted, followed by a performance from The Roots with Mix Master Mike, Kid Rock, Black Thought and Gym Class Heroes? Travie McCoy. Songs in the medley included ?No Sleep ?Til Brooklyn,? ?So What?cha Want,? ?Sabotage? and ?New Style.?

Donovan, inducted by John Mellencamp, performed his classic ?Sunshine Superman? and remarked, ?It?s a singular honor, the grandest searchlight on my music that the world can ever beam.?

Guns N? Roses were inducted by Green Day, with band members Steven Adler, Duff McKagan, Slash and Matt Sorum speaking. Slash said, ?Most importantly, I want to thank the fans. The fans are the ones that made it possible for us to get together tonight.?

Freddie King was inducted by Billy Gibbons and Dusty Hill of ZZ Top, who performed with Joe Bonamassa and Derek Trucks on King?s ?Goin? Down.? Accepting the induction for King was his daughter Wanda. Hill observed, ?Playing with Freddie for about a month was like a year of experience with anyone else.?

Don Kirshner was named the recipient of the Ahmet Ertegun Award by Carole King, with his wife, Sheila Kirshner, accepting.

Laura Nyro was inducted by her friend Bette Midler. Her son, Gil Bianchini (aka rapper Gil-T), accepted and delivered a moving speech about his mother. Sara Bareilles performed Nyro?s spirited ?Stoney End.?

Red Hot Chili Peppers were inducted by longtime friend Chris Rock, who called them ?the baddest live band in the world.? The band?s performance included ?By the Way? and ?Give It Away.?

Small Faces/Faces were inducted by Steve Van Zandt, who observed, ?They did a bunch of classic records which defined garage rock at its finest.? Kenney Jones, Ian McLagan and Ron Wood accepted, and Mollie Marriott accepted on behalf of her father, Steve Marriott. They performed their hit ?Stay with Me? with Simply Red?s Mick Hucknall on vocals.

Engineers Cosimo Matassa, Tom Dowd and Glyn Johns were inducted by Robbie Robertson, who asserted the importance of studio engineers, noting, ?The sound of records has played a huge part in the story of rock and roll.? John Matassa, Jr. accepted on behalf of his grandfather and Dana Dowd accepted on behalf of her father.

The Blue Caps, Comets, Crickets, Famous Flames, Midnighters and Miracles were inducted by Smokey Robinson, who said, ?The bands don?t stand behind us ? we stand together, we play together. The groups don?t sing back-up ? their harmonies make the song whole.?

          The HBO special also features Green Day performing a kinetic rendition of their song ?Letterbomb,? an ?In Memoriam? segment, with Ledisi singing a touching version of the Etta James classic ?At Last,? and an all-star jam of Stevie Wonder?s ?Higher Ground? at the end of the show, featuring Red Hot Chili Peppers with Billie Joe Armstrong, George Clinton, Slash and Ron Wood. Paul Shaffer and members of the CBS Orchestra served as back-up band for several of the night?s performances.

          The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation was established by legendary record executive Ahmet Ertegun and a group of music business executives to honor the artists that have defined rock and roll and have inspired and continue to inspire a generation. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, Inc. is the nonprofit organization that exists to educate visitors, fans and scholars from around the world about the history and continuing significance of rock and roll music. It carries out this mission both through its operation of a world-class museum designed by I.M. Pei in Cleveland, Ohio that collects, preserves, exhibits and interprets this art form and through its library and archives as well as educational programs. For further information, please visit rockhall.com.

HBO presented the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?s 25th anniversary special in 2009 and a concert spectacular celebrating the opening of the museum in Cleveland in 1995.

2012 ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTION CEREMONY is produced by Playtone, Tenth Planet Productions and Line By Line Productions. Executive producers are Jann Wenner, Tom Hanks, Gary Goetzman, Joel Gallen and Joel Peresman; Rick Austin produces; Joel Gallen directs.

The show is 2+ hours long so hopefully it will include everything.

the show was 5 plus hours, so they're going to have to cut a lot out.

I've got a feeling the Performance by Slash & the gang won't be shown... in the blurb about the show it states -

Guns N? Roses were inducted by Green Day, with band members Steven Adler, Duff McKagan, Slash and Matt Sorum speaking.

There is no mention of the songs they played, whereas the other bands songs are listed. Would be a shame, but I expected it as Axl wants no association between GN'R & Slash...It certainly would've been good promotion for Slash feat Myles.
 

I hope performance footage isn't restricted because of any legal wrangling, that wouldn't be cool.

lets hope the HOF Guns performance will be aired this weekend  :peace:

i seriously have my doubts cause of the name issue and Axl avoiding everything to do with Slash  :(

 :-\ They're not listed here.

2012 Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony Premieres on HBO

MAY 4, 2012

Presenters at this year's induction included Chuck D, LL Cool J, Green Day, Smokey Robinson,  Steve Van Zandt, John Mellencamp, ZZ Top, Carole King and Bette Midler. Performers included Green Day, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, the Faces featuring Mick Hucknall, Donovan and the Roots featuring Kid Rock, Black Thought and Travie McCoy.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/2012-hall-of-fame-induction-ceremony-premieres-on-hbo-20120504#ixzz1tuI4RTCp

doesnt look good again.
any why the hell is this in the VR forum here? ouch!!

That's where I posted it. ;)

Looks like they'll be showing the performance according to this :)

http://www.cleveland.com/popmusic/index.ssf/2012/05/rock_and_roll_hall_of_fame_ind_5.html

SCOM and PC, cool.

That is cool, it sounds like he's seen the show.

Definitely taping this one. :yes:

Rock Hall Broadcast: Dedicated to Adam Yauch of Beastie Boys

May 04, 2012

An HBO spokesperson tells Billboard.com that the show's ending has been changed to include a photo of the rapper and musician -- who passed away on Friday at the age of 47, following a nearly three-year battle with cancer -- with text that reads "In Memory of Adam Yauch." The two-and-a-half-hour show had already been altered to include Levon Helm and Dick Clark during the In Memoriam section, even though both died during the week following the event.

http://www.billboard.com/news/rock-hall-broadcast-dedicated-to-adam-yauch-1006971962.story#/news/rock-hall-broadcast-dedicated-to-adam-yauch-1006971962.story

With Slash...

Exclusive: Red Hot Chili Peppers Jam at Hall of Fame Induction

Preview a clip from HBO's broadcast of the 2012 ceremony

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/exclusive-red-hot-chili-peppers-jam-at-hall-of-fame-induction-20120504

Must admit, minus Axl missing on vocals, that sounded pretty damn good.  Steven Adler was impressive and surprisingly fantastic.  Axl would have made that monumental.

They played Sweet Child O' Mine and Paradise City on the broadcast.

Considering this could possibly be the last time Slash, Duff, Steven/Matt play together -- seeing that in HD was really something special. :)

Even videos turn up online of this?

Anyone recored this? Any videos online yet? I only found this very little clip from HBO of Mr Brownstone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hO8p1jSo-8

Well that sucked,  they only showed the boy's induction speeches and that was it. No performance at all.  They even cut out parts of their speeches.

The Chilli Peppers were great, Flea was quite emotional, he's a very humble man.

The show was pretty good overall, I was just disappointed  with no performance from the boys.

 

Uh, they did show 'em playin'.

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction: Slash's Speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zy1Kbb6wNo

VERY TRUE
...and thats exactly why he didnt want to do it. one smal 5 minutes & monumental performance would have ruined decades of effort to give us a replacement band, as good or bad as this band is, thats not the point.

HOPE someone recorded this whole 2h30 induction in HD. cant wait to see it

It appears some people got the performance footage in their broadcast...and some didn't. ???

Another comment:

Pretty awesome show untill the entire performance of Guns N' Roses was omitted. Also I noticed they played Velvet Revolver music when the band came up to accept their induction.

The entire show is replaying for 24 hours on HBOSGE (1 of the 7 HBO's on your cable or satellite provider) ending tonight at midnight.

Totally fucking awesome.

Apparently HBO Canada cut the performance footage from their broadcast.

Blame Canada.

 ???  :hihi:

It was cut from their broadcast...for some reason.

The induction and the guys speeches from the HBO show:

Green Day and Guns N' Roses induction speech

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgoWdxTIFAs

I liked the speeches I wish someone would upload the performance. I would have thought that would be the first thing on youtube? Maybe they're being taken down?

So no videos of the performance?  ???

I guess that explains why I didn't see it then, now I'm off the write HBO Canada a letter.  I know they can't tell me it was due to time constraints b/c the bloody show was over with nearly 20 minutes left in the allocated time slot.

Also I just remembered that they played "Watch This" when the guys came on stage to give their speeches. I thought that was odd or perhaps HBO Canada had something to do with that too ::)
 

They played "Paradise City" when the guys came on stage on my show. :-\

It appears HBO is taking down the videos from the show, but he's a rough one of SCOM someone shot off their TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DREaOmUK3-E

If you have HBO, the entire show is up on HBO GO: http://www.hbogo.com/#home/video&assetID=GOROSTGP35223?videoMode=infopagePreview/

Edit: I haven't watch it at the link, I don't know if it includes the performance or not.

Chili Peppers stole the show IMO. The GNR performance was pretty good. It basically seemed like a Slash showcase. I still find Myles annoying. And I keep hearing how great Steven was......compared to what? Someone who can't play the songs at all? Chad Smith came out later and made Steven look like he learned to play last week.

No comparisons needed.  When you're the original GNR drummer who cowrote and recorded the damn songs to begin with, you're incomparable.

Bottom line jabroni.

Last chance to see the induction and speeches in HD...these are disappearing faster than I can post them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NLW78l1H7M

Yeah, that's not Paradise City as they take the stage in this one.

Well to be fair, Chad plays a different style of music/drums that allows him to be more busy.

Steven simply serves the song what is needed

Chad also is prob the greatest rock drummer a live right now also. so no shame in that.

Yeah, the speeches were edited down in that video as well.

I've done a rip from the whole Gn'r part, if you guys are interested !   :peace:
SCOM & Paradise city included  : ok:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqo8rj_gnr-hof-ceremony_music

That was awesome thanks for the link!

Thanks man real cool!

From Slash regarding the event:

For Slash, everything?s coming up Guns ?N? Roses

May 8, 2012

How did it feel getting up onstage recently with most of the Guns N? Roses guys at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductions?

Slash: It was a really nice event all around, and it was a special moment for all the guys that showed up. It was a nightmare going into it, but when it actually happened it was like, ?This is pretty cool.?

At what point did your attitude change? Was it when you all finally got onstage together?

Slash: Going up there you feel very much part of something that is bigger than?all the stories, drugs, the fights and this and that and the other. There was a body of a music that had a significant impact. When you think about where we come from, which is really like sort of the back alleys of Hollywood and being just scourges of the neighborhood?it was like, ?Wow. It was a pretty big thing we ended up doing.?

What was your initial reaction after reading Axl Rose?s open letter to the Rock Hall (in which the frontman refused induction)?

Slash: The funny thing is we never would have played had he never written it. I think at one point he alluded he was at least going to go, and so we hadn?t really prepared to play at all. We were just going to show up as almost an obligatory thing ? more for the fans than anything. But that letter set a fire that was like, ?Okay, (bleep) it. We?re going to go play.? So it really almost didn?t happen. And if it hadn?t been for that special letter it wouldn?t have.

In a 1988 interview Axl described you by saying you were quiet, but then you pick up a guitar ?and your heart and soul seem to pour out.? Has it always been easier for you to communicate with a guitar in your hands?

Slash: I would say that is my main source of communication (laughs). I find I?m more direct and heartfelt with a guitar. It definitely doesn?t come verbally. That?s actually a chore for me.

http://host.madison.com/entertainment/music/for-slash-everything-s-coming-up-guns-n-roses/article_e0d3d6e9-9ced-5b87-871a-d75da4b66086.html

This is the 1988 interview the guy is referring to:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvNZV1dADkY

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFze12YD9Gw&feature=relmfu

 :'(

Yeah, I used to have that on video.  That was part of the Headbanger's Ball broadcast of the famous 2/2/88 Ritz show.

Axl: Slash is one of the most emotional guitar players that I've ever met. I saw all these people trying to be Eddie van Halen. And it took 5 years to find somebody who played more from the heart rather than just trying to be the fastest, to be a big rock star. He'll be very quiet most of the time until he picks up a guitar and his heart and soul seems to pour out through the guitar. And I'll sit right in front of his amp when he's doing a solo. It means so much to me just to hear that.

I also enjoyed the light-hearted debate between Axl and Slash over whether or not Slash should have curly hair in Axl's tattoo.   :D

Awesome!  Any chance of posting that on youtube?

make sure you name it something random, or else it will be removed

Good call.   : ok:

whats up with watch this playing in the background when they gave the old guys their trophys???

i would like to hear prostitute during a velvet revolver ceremony or whatever thing they might come up.

Not sure why that was done.  Seems like it was only aired that way in Canada though.

Here is the complete thing with PC as intro for the guys!  : ok:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6-HYJ9e-js

Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame 2012 - Final Jam Slash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB1PNf-lMMo

Thanks a million. That was frickin'  awesome.

From Slash:

May 10, 2012

How does it feel to be a member of the Rock ?n? Roll Hall of Fame?

Slash: I don?t know if it feels like anything at this point in time. You just move on and get back to washing dishes, or whatever you do. It?s a little overwhelming. Going into it, I was very skeptical. I didn?t want to go (to the ceremony) because it was such a mess between the band members, and I?ve always had issues with the Hall because of bands that haven?t been inducted, and why. But eventually, I was inspired to show appreciation to a legion of fans, who have been loyal for so many years. When our moment came, I realized it was really bigger than the guys themselves. It was about the entity that is Guns ?n? Roses. It finally felt legitimate and significant. But I still have issues about the people who have and haven?t been inducted.

http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/05/q_a_with_slash_former_guns_n_r.html

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/reverb/2012/05/a_hall_of_appreciation_a_touch.php

A Hall of Appreciation, a Touch of Regret

By Duff McKaganThu., May 10 2012 at 8:00 AM

Duff McKagan is the founding bassist in Guns N' Roses and the leader of Seattle's Loaded. His column runs every Thursday on Reverb.

Watching the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony special on HBO last weekend, I was also struck by how honored I was to have been included in such an epic class of bands and artists. GNR opened for the Peppers a few times in LA back in the early days. They were king-shit on the hill back then. And the Beasties were the hard-core East Coast counterpart to what we were oozing over on the West Coast. In fact, I seem to remember us being in the same club sometime in 1986, and the rumor of us brawling against each other was rampant throughout the club that night. Ah...testosterone!

There we all were in Cleveland, last month. Bands that made some sort of difference somewhere. The Peppers still do, and so do the Beasties. And they both stayed together, through thick...and blackened thin. But GNR didn't survive the folly and nonsense. We didn't rise above.

Watching that HBO Special made me sad -- for the very first time, perhaps--that the original GNR didn't somehow stay together. It would have been a miracle if we did. If I'd known then what I know now, I would have done my part to try and rid that band of the caustic resentments and outside inputs that finally wore us down to a nub of what we once were, and what we could have come back from. Alas, it just wasn't in the cards.
 
A funny thing happened in the lead-up to Cleveland. It seemed that there was an understanding -- not only with the people who had flown to Cleveland to see "their band" inducted -- but in how the other inductees rallied around Slash, Steven, Matt, and myself. They had our backs, and all offered their help in any way that we could use it.

Walking into the lobby at the hotel that all the artists were staying at, the first fellow inductee I saw was fucking Ronnie Wood from the Faces/Stones. He gave me a big hug, and smiled a huge grin. "Isn't this going to be fucking great, Duff?!" Uh, yeah, sure. What a welcome!

Flea gave me a big hug later that afternoon, and so did Chad Smith. The Green Day guys came to my book reading the night before at the House Of Blues, and Billie Joe and I devised a plan where he would sing whatever was needed...if needed.

In the aftermath of all of the drama leading up to the event, and a few people from our camp stating publicly that they weren't coming at all, I stuck with the mindset that I was there to honor our fanbase who had been there for us for more than 25 years.

It was a very poignant night. And after watching the broadcast -- and seeing my old friends perform for our diehard fans -- it's starting to sink in just how heavy the event was for me on a personal level.

We really didn't know if we were going to play at all. It wasn't cemented until we actually rehearsed at 2 a.m. the day of the show (right after my reading. It was all THAT last-minute. In fact, my band and soundman for the reading -- Jeff and Mike from Loaded, and Seattle's own Martin Feveyear -- instantly became GNR's crew! That's right. We hadn't even thought ahead about guitar techs, drum techs, or sound guys. So it was nice to have them there with me for the RRHOF, for sure).

For Slash and me, it was the first time we'd played our songs with Steven Adler in something like 22 years. We had to wonder: Would it work? Would we be able to get our mojo back with only 14 hours to spare before playing in front of an audience of 7,000, and be filmed for an HBO Special!?

I couldn't have been more proud of the guys I did take the stage with that night (special thanks to guitarist Gilby Clarke and singer Myles Kennedy for their heroic, last-minute efforts). My bandmates composed themselves in the face of so much unneeded drama. We had no resentment, and showed up to pay homage to those fans who did their part for us.

At the end of the day, I am so very satisfied about the outcome of that night in Cleveland. It was about the music that GNR wrote way back when. And the fact that a few of us showed up to reciprocate our appreciation was certainly enough for the occasion.

Nicely written by Duff; he just gets it....

Did anyone else get the feeling he was annoyed at those who chose not to attend?

I don't think he felt annoyed, just disappointed. 

Very well written! I would say Duff is more disappointed that some people  did a no show. I feel badly for Duff in all of this.

Great read by Duff. He gets it for sure. Bout damn time !

He absolutely gets it. I said it from the beginning, whether you agree with the rrhof or not its really about the fans and the legacy you created. They created something special and were being recognized for it. The least they couldve done was acknowledge that they together made magic. They dont have to be friends or even perform.

Great article by Duff. It really is sad how the rest of the bands like the chilli peppers and beasties not only kept it together but gnr did not. Once the biggest and most powerful band in the world cannot even get all their original members together for this special night.

You can tell Duff is deeply saddened not only by the fact that gnr could not keep it together, but even worse could not come together for one measley night. After seeing some of the speaches from different inductees, I feel most of these artist are there because they are truly greatful and humbled for the position that they are in and what they have accomplished. It is an event to reflect back on careers that made an imprint on the music industry.

I still don't Understand what was the straw that broke the camels back for Axl not to show up. In my opinion it was a slap in the face to the original line up and an even bigger slap in the face to a large part of the fan base. I know many here will defend him to the death, but whats wrong is wrong. I know he gets annoyed with the reunion gossip, but he is a big boy and should know how to deal with that BS after 15 years now. With that said I also think it was not cool that Izzy and Dizzy did not show up either. I am sure their reasons were to stay neutral and not go against Axl.

Whenever I see that video when he talks about the AFD cross tattoo and when he says no matter what happens I will always look back on that part of my life, etc. and all the hard times and shit the original members went through together, these guys were like brothers and  I can't believe he could not sit with them to have dinner and accept an award together for one night. It's like after sleeping in dumpsters and floors with piss shit blood etc. all the crazy fights and brawls and riots, Axl can't do this? It's fucked up, but what's done is done. I think Axl would have actually enjoyed himself because none of those guys were going to be dicks to him. I am sure they would have been really happy that he made it and showed them respect.

The RRHOF is really NOT about the fans.  It never has been and never will be.  Here's an article that shows how flawed the selection process is, and one specific example of how the thoughts and feelings of the fans of Moody Blues were literally laughed at:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,1966,00.html

We received this letter from a former board member. Here it is:
"Thank you for your insightful article on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I am a veteran music journalist who spent two years on the Hall's nominating committee and saw from the inside some of the politics at work.
"I saw how artists were sometimes chosen for nomination because of their affiliations with the directors of the Hall and others were shot down without so much as a moment of consideration simply because some people in that room didn't like them personally or because an artist had bad blood with someone calling the shots.
"At one point Suzan Evans lamented the choices being made because there weren't enough big names that would sell tickets to the dinner. That was quickly remedied by dropping one of the doo-wop groups being considered in favor of a 'name' artist.
"During my second year on the committee, I received a petition signed by 5000 fans of the Moody Blues requesting that the group be considered for nomination. Personally I am not much of a fan, and neither, apparently, was anyone else on the committee (at least no one who would admit it). Still, I felt they were a legitimate contender for the nomination and that it was my duty to present the petition since so many people had taken a lot of time to put it together. I plunked it down on the conference table to a great roar of laughter from the assembled bigshots.
"Jon Landau, Springsteen's manager, asked me if I personally was a fan of theirs. 'Not really,' I said. 'End of discussion,' he said.
"On the other hand, I saw how Atlantic Records artists were routinely placed into nomination with no discussion at all, due to the large concentration of Atlantic executives on the committee. I saw how so-called critical favorites were placed into nomination while artists that were massively popular in their time were brushed off. I saw how certain pioneering artists of the 50s and early 60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in 70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren't in today ? but Queen is.


Does that sound like an organization that is "really about the fans"?

Ali

I wonder how many of the people like you who feel it was "wrong" for Axl to not attend feel that way simply because they were denied the opportunity to see the old band together, either in the same room or on stage, one last time?  Was it really wrong, or are you just pissed you didn't get what you wanted or think you deserved?  Do you feel the same way about Levon Helm, Roger Waters, Paul McCartney and John Deacon not attending their band's induction ceremonies?

Not that I think it's wrong to be upset you didn't get what you wanted.  But, just that there is a difference between that and some heinous moral wrong being committed.  It was a choice.  One that I think he could've handled differently, as he could've not shown up and not declined induction.  But, it was a choice, and his to make, just like it was Izzy's, Roger Waters', Paul McCartney's and Levon Helm's choices to not show up.  Many of them because of tensions with the lineups being inducted.

Ali

it was just wrong!  ;)

Ali, I am not pissed and understand it is his choice. I will even go further to say I can completely understand Axl may have felt awkward at first because he had not seen or talked to Slash in many years. Since he has talked to Matt, Duff, Izzy, Steven, Dizzy the only person that may have been weird was Slash. Say what you will about Slash, but does anyone honestly think he would have used this opportunity to confront or disrespect Axl. Slash is pretty much an introvert and would have probably liked to have just said peace to Axl and give him a hug. I don't think he wanted to punch him or get on the podium and say something bad about Axl which he did not do. With that said I am just sad that Axl missed an opportunity to heal that wound between him and Slash. I am not saying to try to be his buddy but just squash whatever beef they have lingering between them. He would have shown respect to the original members which they deserve as does he and enjoyed an evening with his old brothers that he had not seen in years who created this wonderful music we are still enjoying to this very day.

No offense, but do you know Axl or Slash personally? If not, why are you sad about Axl and Slash not being on good terms? Outside of the possibility of a reunion, how does the status of their relationship or lack thereof affect you?

Also, if Axl didn't respect the original lineup, and the appreciation the fans have for them, then why would he have had Duff and Izzy on stage with the current band.

Ali

I think Duff was embarrassed a bit.  You can argue with a great amount of credibility that the RNRHOF has flaws.  But, Duff also recognized a vast majority of GN'R fans saw this as likely our one chance to see the original guys together again, even if only for a few minutes on stage.  Of course, everybody had the right to not attend, but that still doesn't mean a majority of fans weren't disappointed.  Duff fully understood how excited fans were by this and just how much the original band meant to the fans.  Sure, we get Axl has a new lineup and the other guys have gone separate ways and we all know about the remaining tension between Axl and Slash.

But, still we had hope that they, for the fans, could set aside all of their egos, disagreements and differences to simply do something that would mean so much to so many.  And, for whatever reason, legitimate or not, they couldn't do it.  The guys that went made the best of it, but I think Duff is simply embarrassed that they all couldn't find a way to make it work, just for a few minutes, to show thanks to the millions of fans who made GN'R such a successful force. 

You can always count on Ali to bring the spin, gnr should've hired you years ago mate.

What spin is involved exactly in asking these questions?  Or is that just a cheap and easy way of deflecting the questions instead of actually answering them?  ::)

Ali

Your points are valid Ali, however, I will point out that there isn't a single awards committee/show that isn't politically driven.  The Academy Awards in the U.S. are notoriously political.  The studios pay the salaries of the Academy, so often the members will vote for people who had the bigger box office.  For instance, Martin Scorsese got shafted for years when nominated for Best Director in favor of directors that were inferior to him (like Clint Eastwood, a big box office director), before he finally won a few years ago.


I agree with this.  I too was disappointed not to see the original five onstage together -- though not surprised at all.  In fact, I fully anticipated that there would be some sort of problem or conflict, and I can't see how anyone wouldn't think there would be.  In the weeks preceding the event, I knew in my heart that it wouldn't happen based on everything that has transpired.  While I don't buy any of the nasty remarks Axl has recently made about Slash, the fact that he made them made it seem very abundantly clear that Axl would not have wanted to share the stage with Slash at all, even if only briefly and without looking at him.

At the end of the day, life will go on, regardless of how disappointed anyone (including myself) may be.

When the Beatles broke up, John Lennon had this to say, and it's ultimately true....

"It's just a rock group breaking up, it's nothing important."

I appreciate your thoughtful response, Bridge. I'll just say that I wasn't implying the RRHOF is more political than other awards committees. Just that in looking at that story about the Moody Blues, how can anyone rightfully say that is the attitude of an organization that is "about the fans"?

Ali

My guess would be that the posters using that phrase are talking more about the attitude of the individuals being inducted than they are about the organization itself.  I think Axl himself has acknowledged that the induction is something that means a lot to many of his fans.

From Slash:

May 10, 2012

"It was definitely an uncomfortable nagging kind of thing because there were so many negatives," Slash said last week. "I was positive that there would be no positive outcome. I had mixed feelings about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame itself and how bands are inducted and why some bands are and some bands aren't. My attitude changed a lot while I was there, seeing everyone get inducted besides ourselves. It turned out to be a cool and heart-warming experience."

"The Van Halen induction was a nightmare," Slash said. "It wasn't fun. And we were potentially a mirror image of that. Now at this point, [GNR's induction] is something I'm really happy I did because it was very close to not happening at all. It turned out that, in the moment, it was a really positive and fulfilling experience."

Part of the good vibes were because Kennedy stepped up on short notice and sang the GNR classics "Sweet Child o' Mine," "Mr. Brownstone" and "Paradise City" with the ex-Gunners.

"That wasn't an idea I would have suggested," said the 46-year-old guitarist, who doesn't sing but has recorded with everyone from Michael Jackson to Bob Dylan. "But Duff had mentioned it. This is not even 48 hours before the actual event. So I said, 'OK, I'll ask him.' At first, he didn't want to do it because of the pressure and all the weirdness of being stuck in that position. Then at the very, very last minute, he said, 'OK, for the cause, I'll do it.' He did a [bleeping] amazing job."

http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/150971115.html

I obviously don't know Axl or Slash and my observation about their relationship or lack there of is only hoping as a fan they would simply mend their relationship because I think it would be cool after all these years and as a fan of both. At the end of the day I am not losing sleep because of this shit. These guys are both millionaires and have a million other obligations to worry about.

GnR is almost like our favorite sports team. If you were a Chicago bulls fan during the Michael Jordan and Scotty Pippen years, that team won 6 championships with those guys. Jordan and Pippen achieved the former together, and were the main components of that team although the other players made their contributions to achieve their level of success. If you are a bulls fan you will always cheer for them, and you should always acknowledge Jordan and Pippen were incredible together. If after they are gone they hate each other and cant even shake each others hands, it is sad as a fan of the bulls and those guys Because you really don't want the faced if the franchise of the most significant era of the team to be at that level of disfunction as a fan. With that said these guys are in the past and will not play togeter anymore and you will continue to cheer for the bulls And hope they continue to succeed. Btw I am not a bulls fan, just trying to make a point.

My point is like it or not Axl and Slash were te faces of Gnr in their heyday. Together along with the Guys inducted in the rrhof they made Gnr the biggest band on the planet at one time. As a fan even of the current line up, why would any Gnr fan want the animosity to continue? I think maybe that group of fans needs the annimosity to continue to help them sleep out of fear of any reunion. Because then if they do become friends there is always that possibility again. I know there won't be any reunion, even if they were best friends again it won't happen because all these guys have different agendas. It's kind of the reason Slash continues to work with Myles and his current band, because he calls the shots. In Vr it's more of everyone is equal. And back in Gnr it would be back on Axls terms which I doubt he wants at this stage. So yes as a fan of both these guys I wish them the best and continue to hope that some day they can get past this rift.

Everybody has praised Axl for bringing Izzy and Duff on stage for a few songs. Do you mean to tell me you would hate to see Axl do that with Slash one day? Or how slash opening up for Gnr like loaded did. I am a Gnr fan and want to support everyone in the Gnr fraternity, team, etc. and I think we all should if you r true fans.

So this is what COULD have happened, but we get stuck with Myles Kennedy.


Duff McKagan Says Green Day Frontman Almost Filled In for Axl Rose at Guns N? Roses Rock Hall Performance



Last month, Guns N? Roses was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.  While frontman Axl Rose and former guitarist Izzy Stradlin decided not to show up for the induction ceremony, the band?s other original members ? guitarist Slash, bassist Duff McKagan and drummer Steven Adler ? partnered with ex-guitarist Gilby Clarke and Alter Bridge frontman Myles Kennedy to perform at the event.

In McKagan?s Seattle Weekly blog, which runs every Thursday, the ex-GN?R member says that while Kennedy filled in for Rose, the bass player ?devised a plan? for Green Day frontman Billie Joe Armstrong to ?sing whatever was needed?if needed? at the event.

McKagan added that the band?s decision to perform was a spontaneous one.  ?We really didn?t know if we were going to play at all,? he wrote.  ?It wasn?t cemented until we actually rehearsed at 2 a.m. the day of the show.  It was all THAT last-minute.?

The bassist also noted that he had some reservations about performing at the event.  ?For Slash and me, it was the first time we?d played our songs with Steven Adler in something like 22 years,? he wrote.  ?We had to wonder: Would it work? Would we be able to get our mojo back with only 14 hours to spare before playing in front of an audience of 7,000, and be filmed for an HBO Special!??

In addition, McKagan wrote that he was ?very satisfied about the outcome? of the band?s performance at the event and thanked Clarke and Kennedy ?for their heroic, last-minute efforts

There are far more GN'R fans that would rather see Slash on stage w/Axl than those who would prefer the current, or Robin, Bucket etc.
Just not on this particular forum.
I don't care about the "true fan" badge. Too old for that.
It couldn't be more simple. People want to see the musicians who created the music they love.
Those chances are few and far between, as bands break up, members leave, die etc.

It's great being able to hear the songs you love, but it's not hard to understand why people would prefer to hear them played by their creators rather than strangers.
Anyway, it's a mute point here. Those cards aren't on the table. Can't even get the guys in the same room.

This site is geared more towards the current incarnation, and the majority of posters seem to prefer the current players, which is great. Point is, I don't think you're going to change anyones mind.
Some are blindly loyal to Axl and choose to share his enemies. Some were never fans of Slash to begin with and got into the band because of Bucket, Robin etc.
Some just aren't interested in revisiting the past. For some, Slash on stage with Axl potentially spells the end of the band THEY fell in love with. The Chinese Democracy era.

I'm just glad all members are alive and active. Just caught GN'R, going to see Slash in August, maybe VR.
It would be nice if Axl were more productive in the studio, and if Izzy would get off his ass and tour!!

I'm personally very grateful we were spared being subjected to witness Billie Joe attempt to sing GN'R songs.
I'm sure he's happy too!

No one can sing GN'R like Axl.
Myles can't. Scott can't. I don't need to hear BJ try to know he can't.
Very cool of him to offer help though. He seems like a cool guy.

I the end, the band sounded tight, and Myles did as good a job as could be expected.
They put on a show for the fans that traveled all the way there to see them. Tough for me to find anything negative about that.

I have no doubts it did mean a lot to many.  But, just be aware that the people behind the RRHOF openly laughed at a group of fans mere suggestion that Moody Blues be CONSIDERED for induction.  So, the RRHOF itself and/or the people behind it, are not about the fans.

Ali

I never said I would hate it if Slash and Axl were to mend fences.  Frankly, I do not care if they do or do not make peace on a personal level.  It has no effect on me and is their business, frankly.

Ali

wish i was a man of steel just like you Ali

You don't necessarily have to be a man of steel to have accepted the fact that Slash and Axl parted ways in 1996, never to work together again.  16 years is plenty of time to accept it, even if you don't like it (and believe me I didn't).

Yeah, that's basically it.  It took me about three years, just before the turn of the century.  It's just something I made peace with long ago and have since moved on.

Ali

Made peace with?  If I didn't know any better I'd think you were kicked out of the band Ali. 

Well, then you'd be wrong.

Ali

Just a note from a guitarist....

Did anyone else notice that Slash played the solos NOTE for note. He's never really done that, not sure if intentional or not, but it was interesting none the less. Particularly the Paradise solo...even back in the GN'R days he'd stick to the basic structure and just jam ; post GNR he does the same thing...adding in some of his more recent licks. But this is the first time I've really heard him play it as it's heard on the record. I always wondered if he even remembered how to play it exactly as is....guess there's my answer. But thought it be interesting to note!

MYLES KENNEDY Talks About His Performance At GUNS N' ROSES' ROCK HALL Induction (Video) - May 23, 2012

When asked how his involvement with the GN'R Rock Hall induction came about, Kennedy told Revolver TV (see video below), "It was brought up at the [Revolver] Golden Gods awards on April 11 in Los Angeles]. [Slash and I] were getting ready to [perform at the event] and Duff [McKagan, former GUNS N' ROSES bassist, who was presenting an award at Golden Gods] brought up the idea of perhaps playing at the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame induction. At first I was hesitant. I felt like? The magnitude of its was so huge and I just didn't feel like I could step into that. But the more I thought about it, they just wanted to play for their fans and just have a good time. And I was like, 'You know, they don't wanna let their fans down and I don't wanna let them down.' So I just tried to kind of sing with the melodies and sing the lyrics the best I could and just stay out of the way. It was about them, it wasn't about me. . . It took about 24 hours for me to man up [and decide to actually go ahead and perform with them at the induction]. 'Cause, obviously, you can't step into those shoes ? you just can't ? so I just did the best I could."

http://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=174366

GUNS N' ROSES Keyboardist DIZZY REED: Why I Decided To Skip ROCK HALL Induction - May 22, 2012

EspyRock recently conducted an interview with GUNS N' ROSES keyboardist Dizzy Reed. A couple of excerpts from the chat follow below.

EspyRock: I want to congratulate you on being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame.

Dizzy Reed: Thank you.

EspyRock: How does it feel to be inducted as a member of GUNS N' ROSES and to see your name in there now?

Dizzy Reed: Well, it wasn't without controversy, as you know, but the whole concept was an honor. It came and went, and it is there, but right now the [current European] tour is the most important thing. I've just been focussing on that and believe me, it takes a bit of preparation for me to get ready to come out and do this. It has been quite a hectic few weeks with that and the tour leading up to when we got on the plane to head out.

EspyRock: I hope you don't mind me asking but considering the honor you were receiving, why didn't you attend the ceremony? Was that due to tour preparations or did you not feel the circumstances were right due to the controversy?

Dizzy Reed: Well, you know, Axl [Rose, vocals] decided not to go because he felt that it wasn't right, and I stand by him. The reasons he gave made sense to me and I agreed with him, so I chose not to go as well.

EspyRock: When you look at it all, the Hall Of Fame induction really just caused more damage than it did good, because while GUNS N' ROSES have always been under fire, it just ignited a new wave of hatred and abuse.

Dizzy Reed: Well, like you said "congratulations," we're in the Hall Of Fame, man, and that's cool. That's all there is to it now, time for people to move on.

EspyRock: Your induction represents what you have achieved throughout your career with the band, which now stands at twenty two years. Do you feel as if your role has changed over the years, especially as you're the second longest standing member next to Axl?

Dizzy Reed: You know, I don't think it has changed a whole heck of a lot, to be honest. [laughs] I just try to add, and I always have, what I can to the music in the studio and to the performance when we are performing live. I think, if anything, I've been given a little more freedom over the years because I've become a better performer. I've been given a little more freedom to do things that I wouldn't have in the past. In the past, it was, "You're not going to play on this song," and that was many, many, many years ago, but now things are different a little bit. Like I said, the most important thing is that I just try to add what I can to make the songs better. In the studio, I just try whatever I can, throw some ideas around and just see what sticks to the wall, but it's all about making the songs better. Live, it is kind of a similar process, but I kind of know what is going to work and what is not going to work. I try not to have any redundancy of sound or tone or anything and visually for the people who are there to see the show.

http://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=174318

GN'R HOF Audio (FLACs) to be found on the gnr tracker!

Slash Talks Guns N? Roses? Future, New Album ?Apocalyptic Love,? and More

[On A Guns N? Roses Reunion] ?That last Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing was it? I?m really sick to death of even entertaining the concept.?

May 25, 2012 12:00 PM EDT

On April 14, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame held their 27th annual Induction Ceremony. Despite the sell-out crowd of 7,400, the mood was iffy from the get-go.
   
Adam ?MCA? Yauch, one of the three members of inductees the Beastie Boys, was too ill to attend. He died just three weeks later. But stealing the front-page headlines was Axl Rose: Just days prior to the event, Guns N? Roses? fiery frontman sent a letter to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame refusing his induction, and accusing his former band mates of ?a seemingly endless amount of revisionism and fantasies.?

For the band?s former guitarist, Slash, this latest stunt closed the book on a Guns N? Roses reunion once and for all.

?That last Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing was it,? says Slash in an interview with The Daily Beast. ?I?ve been entertaining the idea for other people for years, but it?s never been my inclination to get back together. Given the opportunity for us all to show up in one place, that was the only reasonable platform for us to do it, and it didn?t happen. I?m really sick to death of even entertaining the concept.?

Slash ended his tenure with Guns N? Roses in 1996 amid escalating tension between himself and Rose.

?When Axl took over the name and the partnership, which we sort of allowed to happen, I decided not to continue on,? he says matter-of-factly.

On the surface, not a whole lot has changed with Slash. At 46, the man considered by Time to be No. 2 Greatest Electric-Guitar Player ever still sports his signature obscured look: hat resting atop long, black curls, shades, nose ring, and crotch-suffocating jeans, his relaxed monotone oozing rock legend insouciance.

Since his departure from Guns N? Roses, Slash formed the supergroup Velvet Revolver in 2002 with singer Scott Weiland. When the band went on indefinite hiatus in 2008?rumored to be because of Weiland?s diva-like antics?Slash decided to go solo, releasing his eponymous self-titled debut in 2010. Slash featured an all-star cast of vocalists, including Ozzy Osbourne, Adam Levine, and Fergie, and received positive reviews. His sophomore solo album, Apocalyptic Love, isn?t an experimental LP, but a full-fledged collaboration between Slash and singer Myles Kennedy, formerly of Alter Bridge. And yes, there are killer guitar riffs aplenty.

?The title?s a tongue-in-cheek joke about what you?d want to be doing on the eve of the apocalypse, so it?s basically ?sex before the end of humanity,?? says Slash with a chuckle. ?All things considered, I would imagine that you?d want to get one last one in before it all came down.?

Born Saul Hudson in Hampstead, London, his mother was an African-American costume designer who once dated David Bowie, and his father, who was white, designed album art for musicians like Joni Mitchell. When he was five, the family settled in Los Angeles. His childhood friend, Steven Adler, used to crank his amp up and jam along to Kiss?s Alive II, and pretty soon the two decided they should start a band?with Slash on bass guitar.

?I went to a local music school and said, ?Okay, I want to learn how to play bass,?? recalls Slash. ?The teacher had a guitar while he was talking to me and he played a Cream solo, and I said, ?That?s what I want to do!? And it turned out to be lead guitar.?

He soon received the nickname ?Slash? from actor Seymour Cassel, who was his best friend?s father.

?I was about 15 or 16 years old and I?d always be running around putting different bands together, so he always saw me in passing and started calling me ?Slash.? It?s a nickname that stuck with all my friends,? he says.

After forming the band Road Crew, with Adler and bassist Duff McKagan, and then joining Hollywood Rose, which featured singer Axl Rose and guitarist Izzy Stradlin, Slash unsuccessfully auditioned for Poison. It turned out to be a blessing in disguise, because in 1985, Slash joined Rose and Stradlin in Guns N? Roses, with McKagan and Adler rounding out the group. Around this time, Slash established his iconic look: Top hat and shades.

?None of it was pre-planned,? he says with a laugh. ?The hat I picked up in ?85 because I just thought it looked cool. It was something I felt comfortable on stage with and could hide behind it. And I adopted sunglasses because I?m not a fan of the bright lights.?

Guns N? Roses played L.A. nightclubs like Whisky a Go Go and The Roxy for nearly two years before releasing their debut album, Appetite For Destruction, in 1987. Featuring the hit songs ?Welcome to the Jungle,? ?Sweet Child o? Mine,? and ?Paradise City,? the album went on to sell 18 million copies in the U.S. alone?making it the best-selling debut album in the U.S.

Thanks to their hard-partying, hell-raising reputation, Guns N? Roses was branded the ?Most Dangerous Band in the World,? and several of the band?s members?Slash included?developed addictions to heroin.

?The ?80s for me, I didn?t feel that strongly about what that represented,? says Slash. ?A lot of it was very transparent to me?musically and stylistically. But that was when my time was, so I think Guns N? Roses was very much the antithesis of that particular scene, which is what made us so cool.? He adds, ?We took all the stuff we?d heard about from other bands before us, and we took it to eleven.?

After releasing four more studio albums, culminating with the low-selling 1993 cover album The Spaghetti Incident?, Slash officially parted ways with the band in October 1996. He was followed out the door by Adler?s replacement on drums, Matt Sorum?who was fired by Rose?and bassist Duff McKagan, who quit in 1997. While Slash returned to prominence with Velvet Revolver, Rose would take 13 years to produce Chinese Democracy, the first album under the Guns N? Roses name since The Spaghetti Incident? With production costs totaling close to $14 million, it remains the most expensive album to be produced in history, and sold less than one million albums in the U.S. By contrast, Velvet Revolver?s 2004 debut, Contraband, sold close to three million copies stateside.

Prior to creating Velvet Revolver, Slash was diagnosed with cardiomyopathy in 2001?a form of congestive heart failure caused by years of substance abuse, and was originally given just six weeks to live.

?The prognosis wasn?t good but I was able to rehab and get myself back together,? he says. ?It was pretty close there, for a second.?

Slash is a lot happier these days. He?s been sober since 2006, and has two young sons with his wife, Perla, who he?s been married to since 2001. A huge film buff, Slash formed the horror movie production company Slasher Films in 2010, and their first movie, Nothing to Fear, stars Anne Heche and will be released next year. While many of his favorite movies are of the horror variety?including Rosemary?s Baby, The Omen, and The Exorcist?he ?thought Bridesmaids was great!? and though he laments ?the lack of rock n? roll guitar players these days,? he still thinks, ?Jack White, who?s very current, is awesome.? Meanwhile, he?s having a ball on tour with his new band mates, dubbed Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators.

?This lineup of people has been a hassle-free, fun endeavor,? he says.? These guys just want to play.? He pauses. ?There?s no unnecessary baggage.?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/25/slash-talks-guns-n-roses-future-new-album-apocalyptic-love-and-more.html

SLASH Says ROCK HALL Induction Closed Book On Possible GUNS N' ROSES Reunion - May 29, 2012

Former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Slash told The Daily Beast that being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame and the fact that the band's lead singer, Axl Rose, refused to be inducted along with the rest of the classic GN'R lineup closed the book on a GUNS N' ROSES reunion once and for all..

"That last Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame thing was it," said Slash. "I've been entertaining the idea for other people for years, but it's never been my inclination to get back together. Given the opportunity for us all to show up in one place, that was the only reasonable platform for us to do it, and it didn't happen. I'm really sick to death of even entertaining the concept."

http://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=174674

Did Blabbermouth just pull that quote from the article above?

Do you mean the headline?  That's pretty much what he's saying in the quote...

This from The Daily Beast..


This from Blabbermouth..

"That last Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame thing was it," said Slash. "I've been entertaining the idea for other people for years, but it's never been my inclination to get back together. Given the opportunity for us all to show up in one place, that was the only reasonable platform for us to do it, and it didn't happen. I'm really sick to death of even entertaining the concept."

Yeah, they ran the same story/quote.  In the beginning of their article is says "Former GUNS N' ROSES guitarist Slash told The Daily Beast."

Am I missing something here. ???

No, at first glance it looked like BM poached the quote and ran it as it's own as a stand alone story - I didn't see the credit given to the Daily Beast.

I'm partial to The Beast, the great author Buzz Bissinger (Friday Night Lights, 3 Days In August) is a contributor to that site.