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What is  new philosophy for GnR?

When GnR started And began getting big, part of their success was making videos and doing a lot of interviews. In doing so they became the biggest band in the world. After Axl revamped GnR he seems to have changed his philosophy in thant he no longer wants to be the biggest band in the world (at least it appears that way for me). I know Mtv is not what it used to be, but I still would have loved for Axl to have made some videos for CD. I always enjoyed viewing Axl and GnRs vision through their videos. I think with today's technology they could have made some great videos with CD catalog. I also wish the rest of the members and even Axl would do more press and interviews so they can get to know more about the guys and what is going on internally in the GnR world. Maybe do some unplugged shows that get televised or go on Saturday Night live and the late night shows to further introduce this band. The lack of promotion and press for CD was very surpising consisering all the years of hard work put into the album. Unfortunately, GnR has become somewhat like Pearl Jam (which is another favorite band of mine so it is not knock just an observation) who tries to stay below the radar by not doing videos. It's almost like they do not want to be popular or are too concerned about selling out. Which we know GnR is anything but sellouts. anyways thoughts?

Seems to me that both Pearl Jam and Guns have decided that shoving things in people's faces is often counter-productive to becoming popular. Once you get past a certain point, people start to get sick of you.

They instead seem to be relying on positive word of mouth from shows (especially the word of mouth of those who weren't expecting to like the shows much in Guns' case... that could make all the difference in the long run. People like us who have always loved them aren't going to be taken as seriously as the person who has misgivings and is won over at the end of a show).

I do wish they'd make some music videos, though.

WTF?  HBK 2.0?

Nothing has changed. It was always "we do things our way.". Still is.


Back in the day, getting a video played on MTV often meant increased record sales. Making a video people talked about was a special thing. Everybody watched the same channel, the same shows.

Today if you make a music video, people will watch it on Youtube. And probably only by those that are fans already. Unless you manage to make a video that goes viral and is spread through social media.


Some of you have forgotten how things were in the 1990s. Axl didn't grant that many interviews. He chose a few which then became legendary.


Today we got people who are famous for being famous. They're not celebrities because their music touched a whole world, or because they appear in a popular movie. They're famous because they were in sex tapes, because they were seen with somebody famous or because they were in a reality show.

The entertainment "news media" focuses on these kind of people and very little is written about the art itself. Music magazines are competing against gossip magazines.

It seems like people are more interested in what Madonna is wearing that what she is singing.




/jarmo

What do you mean by ANYTHING you say?

what she said actually makes more sense to me than a lot of what was being said  in that HOF thread for the last week.. :hihi:

but seriously as far as philosophy goes, I would imagine it is still going to be GNR doing what GNR wants, and being unaffected by what those around them say, do or write about.  Which is just the way I want it.

Hello Japan? OK. I have not been reading every line on every post. Did you? ok whateva. Carry on if you cant dig what I am saying... or.. I dont know.,, Dig a F- ghost.
Through that wall. & keep it on there, Forever. & dont get so much philosophical peeps, its just rnr & no, you cant stop it lol 

To highlight this point, her last song only reached #37 in the UK charts, whereas in the 1990's she was hitting the top 3 every time... Is her music [worse] or has the way we hear music changed.... In theory, you can play any music you want and not have a recording to your name.

Axl did very few interviews. His # of interviews all together is much less than your standard pop icon would do in 1 day.

Videos are dead. Waste of energy and money. Shame... GNR did revolutionize the music video.

Philosophy: GNR does what GNR wants. Period.

I think Madonna's latest single was just as good as her old stuff. The industry has changed big time. Also Madonna no longer lets the media and labels influence her career like in the 80s and early 90s. See a pattern here with the #37 compared to top 3?

I wouldn't say Axl did a lot of press in the 90s but he did more than now. I think the main difference was that the other guys also did press so maybe it seemed like they were getting more exposure. I believe the new members may also have restrictions in their contracts where they are probably limited as far as doing interviews and divulging band information. With regards to viedo, I know the dynamics have changed but musicians still do videos even though it does not have same impact as before. They could probably come up with something that could go viral on YouTube. Nevertheless, I always believed it was something Axl enjoyed, in putting out extravagant or elaborate videos to convey his image or vision of a song to his fans. GnR will always do things there way without apologizing, but I would have liked to see them reclaim the biggest band in the world status. I think they have the talent with current line up keep making some great music for people to enjoy.

No. This is just a myth.

Glad that someone else gets it....... ! I mean except Frank Sinatra cause he composed, he must dig something more about it - Who could ever possibly even thought of that? ...


   

I thought Madonna's last single was a pile of shit, I own the record and it was even worse than that.   She is trying to cater to the Deadmau5 crowd, which is 14 year old kids on ecstasy.  She is way too old to appeal to them, and nobody cared.

I believe I read posts on this forum stating that people like a Josh Freese, Dave Navarro, Moby, and other players and producers etc. who worked on CD that Axl would make them sign contracts forbidding them from speaking about what they worked on CD. I am not saying the new line is forbidden altogether from speaking to the media, but I believe they really can't do interviews without Axls approval basically.

Are you serious?


I guess you are. And I bet i know why. You actually believe all the bullshit about how Axl needs to know every single detail and approve every single thing. That's the bullshit that's been fed to you, and you ate it all without questioning it.


So a TV crew approaches Dj on the street. Does he call Axl on the secret bat phone to get an approval? Don't be ridiculous.




I personally interviewed Tommy in 2004, and he brought up GN'R. He knew the fans wanted to know.





/jarmo

Obviously it's only my opinion but if she released her greatest song ever it would still do #37
Industry doesn't care about her anymore. If they did they would pay stations play her song 100000 times until everyone liked it.

Funny the otherday I heard that new single from $la$h's band...total shit compared to a song like "Better" for example.
WHY???????????? Because Axl don't play nice and lick their balls  ::)


 :rofl:

I agree the music video isnt all it used to be but we still need em really. Flicking through the music channels and i mean every music channel you can watch the latest releases all with videos. Whether it be rock, dance, garage, pop or whatever. Watching one of the rock stations the other wk and they did a top 100 rock albums in the last 10yr, GN'R werent on because there was no music video to match the album. Every time guns are shown its always Axl and the ex members because its the only videos made. We all agree Guns N' Roses have moved forward but we need a video to show that Guns N' Roses have moved forward. Im not saying dont play the videos we already have because that would be stupid but all we see is the past and not the present

Jarmo, I think it is safe to say Axl is the boss of GnR. It's his band and what he says goes. Obviously he can't control every aspect of their lives like if a TMZ guy show up and asks some stupid question and they respond.

What I am referring too is more along the lines of, lets say DJ is being sponsored by Gibson and Guitar World wants to do a piece on him. I would believe he would have to Run it by Axl to get his ok because he will probably be asked about GnR and what's going on with the band. I am not saying this as a shot at Axl, if anything it is smart business and it is his comany which means he runs it how he wants to. I am not suggesting these guys would start talking shit, because they have no reason to, but Axl may not want them to divulge how many songs they have in their vault or when they plan on recording new material, etc.

Its a good point Wadey.  Its difficult for most people to really understand present day GN'R when they do not do a lot of media.  And perhaps thats due to lack of record company promotion, but it also seems to be reluctance on Axl's part based of lack of trust with the media.  So what you're left with for the vast majority of people is the image of the classic lineup.  I think the fact that Guns have been touring regularly now with a consistent lineup since 2010 helps, but they do miss out on opportunities to promote themselves by shying away from traditional media outlets.  

Have you ever read or watched any GN'R interviews?

Unbelievable.





/jarmo

As far as "music videos" go maybe there are already some out there to enjoy, just not in the old MTV tradition? 

"Street Of Dreams" especially stands out to me.  In the pro video that plays live there is a woman and she is wandering around on the "Street Of Dreams".  If I remember, you can see a sign for Santa Monica at one point.  As far as the lyrics go I can't be sure if Axl is singing both "to her" and "as her" character during any parts of the song(i.e. "Rocket Queen"). 

"So now I wander through my days
Trying to find my ways.." 


Anyway that is another thread.

I actually get the impression they don't talk about a lot of things because they don't actually know what the hell is going on. I don't think there is a gag order. Tommy and DJ especially seem to do a lot of interviews.

Obviously I have seen and read a shit load of GnR interviews, which go to my original point about the philosophy of the band. In the past former members and Axl did numerous interviews on MTV, kurt loader, headbangers ball, performed on late night tv, did rolling stone interviews, and all the other rock magazines. Axl spoke to Kurt Loader after they performed at the MTV music awards and said something about how do u recreate something that was so big, I think u promote the shit out of it. In a way Axl is doing this by touring the world like crazy. Again, doing what they want on their terms ( which is fine). However, I think he does want to make stamp with this line up but for whatever reason does not do the traditional promoting he did in the past and that other bands do probably because he does not want to get the million reunion questions and/ or deal with the media misconstruing his statements. Don't get me wrong it's not like I'm saying I want them to perform on the today show and do a million stupid interviews. But I think that by getting out there they can clear up a lot of the bullshit that drives him crazy to this day and introduce the casual fans who still think slash is in the band to the new members.

welč euro tour will be sellout with 90% shows...you're wrong

There is no doubt in my mind that GnR will have a succesful worldwide tour. When did I say they would not be succesful? I just posed a question on people's thoughts on a GnR s philosophy. I think we can agree their approach is a little different from when they toured the UYI albums. I am not saying this to draw any comparisons to the old band. Please do not turn into that. It's about Axl and the current line up and if he still wants to be the biggest band in the world. I am not even sure he wanted to be that in the past, but GnR was. GnR is still popular and gaining momentum by the day, but they are not lets say where U2 is today. Personally i would love to see them reclaim that title but maybe Axl could care less. I am just a fan and spectator with am opinion enjoying the ride.

Where did you explain your ridiculous "they need Axl's permission" theory?

So you read and saw multiple GN'R interviews? Which one specifically gave that impression?

Because I've seen a bunch of interviews about GN'R with Dj, Bumblefoot, Tommy, Dizzy and so on.



Did you interview any of them and they told you they're not allowed to talk about GN'R?



/jarmo

Original poster gave Pearl Jam as an example of another band who does things differently to the norm. I was staying on that theme.

(and then when someone said that he was going to wreck my car, I just didnt do what to do! Keep beating the dead horse but got a new one, you know? Philos was not a friend of Sophia. Be careful with those riddles & philosophy)   

U know the reason why Axl is 'reluctant' with the media? How do you know that he is 'shying away' from  'traditional media outlets' ? Why you assume he is 'shying away'? & you also measured the degree by which he is doing his job basically & also that the record company does not back them up & something something etc etc

Ok, sorry to spil da beans on anyone's  rug, but no one can be aware of what exactly has happened except the people involved. My name is not Aristotelis btw, pls dont get that twisted, sister. 

I don't think Guns N' Roses ever had a "philosophy". It's always been a very "do as I see fit" type of band. You can hear on their records, there is no set ground rules for anything, it's just good music for the sake of creating good music. I think this extends to everything in the GN'R world. If it seems "right" they'll do it, and if not they don't. It's not some secret formula. All the members of GN'R tweet about GN'R and each have strong personalities, if you think Axl recruited them to do as he wishes you're insane.

I don't think the band ever wanted to be the type of band where they're on every channel, every magazine, every radio show ever. It's always seemed they wanted to create good music, and deliver it to as many folks that can enjoy it.

As for the other subject being thrown out here. Do I think Axl is a driving force in the way Guns N' Roses sounds? Of course. Do I think he has a strong sense of what the band should sound like? Of Course. Do I think he has some quasi-Nazi Hitler control over what the members do and say, and somehow belittles their contribution to the band?....really what do you think? One answer is logical, the other is just stupid.  : ok:

ay yo puke, watch your fuckin mouth. 



 

What's your problem?

Nobody seems to understand your posts and now you object to somebody pointing out the absurdity of the misconception that Axl has to approve what the band members say in interviews?





/jarmo

"........ of the misconception that Axl has to approve what the band members say in interviews? "

This Q is not a misconception, neither seems absurd to me, its like a movie I have watched many times before.

With the 'not in this lifetime' PUNCH LINE hopefully everyone will snap back to reality & gravity will just do the work.

I dont settle the measures here Jarmo, you do & I wasnt aware of your approach and still aint sure, so I might read more than post for a while 

I'm gonna throw this out there since I haven't seen anything discussed about it. What about the possibility of GNR releasing a 7" inch single of not per say something NEW...but 2 live tracks from their tour? Record store Day is coming up, it's usually in April...all kinds of band release special limited edition items.

Hey man, great thought, but I have seen the list of artists releasing music for Record Store Day and GNR are not on it.  Considering its this Saturday April 21, I am not sure if its even possible to throw together anything in that amount of time. 

Maybe next year possibly....another idea besides the web streams of their concerts that they've had recently made available to all of us.....how about making available flash drives of the audio and/or video available to the public via their website of their shows (doesn't have to be every one they do). This way when the allocated time runs out to buy the stream to watch the show, people still have a chance to get it. 

Why you no rike my post?


Honestly though I feel the "new philosophy for GNR" is to keep touring, dominate around the world, play sold out 3 hour a night shows, and eventually get around to a new CD. I mean with all the stuff DJ has said in interviews (though they are commonly misconstrued) and what Tommy and other members have said - I feel that 2012 is going to be a great year just like 2011 was!

: ok:

As far as interviews goes, Duff and Slash were the ones doing most of the talking, at least in the Illusion era. Now, it seems like there isn't anyone left to do the talking. Axl hardly does any interviews and even though Bumblefoot, Tommy & DJ seems to be willing to talk, there doesn't seem to be a lot they can say or even know.

Why would they need a new philosophy, there's nothing wrong with the old one?

Anyone think GN'R are actually recording music for a new album now? I know they have a bunch of shows coming up but, you think they are actually making an effort to "put the pen to the paper" and actually making something special in the studio currently. Jarmo?

I would love to at least know that this is something Axl is actively trying to put together and is passionate about it. What... are we coming on 5 years since Chinese Democracy? These wild 3 hour shows are great but you know...

There was an expectation that Chinese Democracy would be followed by this wave of other new music. Axl said as much in his chats. But I'm not surprised we haven't heard about anything. Look at how much trouble it took to get CD out. And the bridge between Axl and the record company doesn't just seem burned at this point, it's been nuclear incinerated.

Dj's at home in Las Vegas, Bumblefoot is in Jersey, Frank is in Germany on tour with Nena... No, I don't think so.




/jarmo

Do you think they will basically work on the left over material from CD? Or basically start from scratch in the recording studio to see what they come up with. I think this will be a tricky for Axl and the band considering all the tinkering that occurred on the material on CD. It seems like they have a bunch of material in the vault. I just hope for their sake they don't have to go through what they went through with CD.

When will you address your absurd claims that Axl needs to approve every interview band members do?




/jarmo

Doesn't mean Axl can't put out the rest of the Chinese tracks at any point, like Ron said he'd do if he were in charge.  ;)

he was talking for a while about a video for Better. but it never came out.

Anyone know why?

this was a few managers ago though so maybe the ball just got dropped here or there.

It's not the best way to do it, but people have recorded albums together without ever being in the same country before thanks to the wonders of e-mail.

I don't think they're recording, either, though. Just saying it's not outside the realm of possibility. :)

There is something wrong with this balance between artist-band having to give from one side and fans from the other, wanting, wanting more, wanting different,
I got seriously in trouble in the past with that cause I couldnt give, give, give , give. It drains the blood out of your system if anyone can understands but whateva

so I suppose you dont need philoshophy new or old or the same, you need new material? 7 in specific in this topic?  :-\

Jarmo, I did not say Axl has to approve everything the members say and do. Do not take it so literal, it was not meant as an absolute. But do consider the typical answers to most of their interviews they are vague and they never know anything for sure... Question... So when are you guys going to record. Typical Answer... I don't know we have a lot of material written blah blah blah. Question, so until when do you guys plan on touring CD, typical answer... I don't know we are taking it day by day and having fun touring Europe meeting fans bla bla bla. They don't elaborate on specifics of what goes on in the band until Axl says it himself, books a tour, says he will record. So yes they do interviews here and there but they know not to give specifics about songs they may have recorded or worked on or that they plan on working on. They do not get into the dynamics of the recording or writing process for whatever reason. I know they tweet stuff about their side projects and pictures with fans and that kind of stuff but I don't think we get that inside look into the band because Axl wants it that way. And that's fine and his prerogative. Again it's just an observation as to how GnR operates. That is not a knock on Axl or the line up so don't make it out to be that.


 My impression of the way business is conducted in GnR is that things are done on Axl's watch. We are discussing what is GnRs next move. Do you think DJ is going to make that call? Do you think bumble foot can tell Axl to let's go to the studio. My opinion is that the line up definitely can input creatively and speak freely, but Axl will do what he want and if they disagree there is the door. That happened with bucket, brain, robin. Whenever they wanted to get the band going whether recording or touring

GnR's next move is to tour this summer.  I dont think Axl is in a rush to release new material anytime soon. I would imagine there are bigger things at play with record labels and such. With the release of CD, he did not seem very happy at all with the label and I would imagine that relationship needs some tlc lol.

If I was betting on a release date for new material...I would say 2015-2016..

The man has a point. I would make the same one anyway.

It was exactly the same in the years before CD was released & it's not very pleasant. It would be nice to know what's going on, if there are plans to record new music, to release older recordings, etc. Hell, even tour dates are announced sparingly. Why not announced a whole tour at once?

Sure did come across that way.





And that's new how?


I'm sure all band members' input is important.


Every time Axl for example has talked about hopes and ideas for the future, it's been taken as promises. When he says he hopes to do something next year, it's taken as he promised you personally to do it.

There's a reason they stopped saying certain things...






Often artists do that and it's still not the full itinerary.

With space in between shows.

And then people start guessing what it all means.




/jarmo

            Well as bands get older , some will tour for months and take a break. Rose is 50 years old now. He's not 25 and can go on massive world tours like Illusion that stretched for 2+ years. I think the schedule and band he has now , all seem to like how they tour now. Go for 5-8 months , take a month and half off ...come back tour for another 3-5 months.

                I do hope after the summer shows they start work on the next album. I would hope that by the time the summer run begins , Rose has worked some issues with the label out and once its over , they can walk into the studio. I think a big step towards fixing some things would be to let Rose do what he wanted originally with Chinese Democracy. To make it a double album.

                That if he does a Chinese Democracy Vol.2 , its a 2 disc album with a lot of reworked tracks from those sessions and some new material mixed in from Ashba and company.

Yeah, and that is the problem.i know, they are playing 3-hour show, and stuff like that, but they should proof there studio quality with a new album

But this particular lineup hasn't ( to my knowledge ) recorded or spent a lot of time in the studio together. I would imagine Axl has a ton of material with post CD songs and what DJ has been writing. In Axl's 09' interview he was asked about releasing new material

When's the next album?

Have no idea and don't care. Hopefully, we'll be working 'Chinese' for a good bit. Of course there's the same idiots that have been around forever already demanding release dates.

How much material is there?

Not as much as Baz [Sebastian Bach] thinks he heard! Really, it doesn't matter. If things go well enough, we'd like to get another out at some point in our lifetimes.

Is anything finished?

Depends how you look at it.

 How do you look at it?

Not something we've focused on.

 You're not saying much.

You got that? What I can say is if you don't like this, then you probably won't like that. Same people, lots more approaches, bit meaner in places and darker in some. Robin does a really great Stevie Ray Vaughan-type solo on one track.



When he says its not something we've focused on, I believe him, especially with all the touring they have done and continue to do. And with the relationship between him and his label, I would imagine that new music from GnR , as much as everyone including his bandmates would like to get one out.. I just dont see it happening anytime soon.

The human body is not designed for such changes in such short period of time, non-stop. I haven't done a world tour yet mainly due to the fact that I don't have a band, although some people could not just get it from time to time (!) that this is a fact, but I have been around for 30? gigs or so in about 1 month without stopping and I pretty much reconsidered about a few things in life. I did really wanted to though , cause it was the anniversary of a very special tour to me regardless, it worn the SHIT out of me in a very special way! lol  I wasn't obviously hoping into a tour bus & having others to do things for me, which surely helps, I had to arrange things on my own for everything but still, it was one of the hardest things I have ever done in relation to physical strength benchmarking - (& not only!) So, by being just 28 years old - & next too young to let love my break aha - mind you tough, I was free from alcohol and drugs & I was seriously thinking in between to stop! But something made me to stand up and continue, something made me to carry on & as long as you have this fire burning in your heart, your mind whatever, you don't need anything else. Point being; it has taken time of my life away, and I am not joking you, cause you get older than you truly are, at least this was how it worked for me, no drugs, sex & RnR , FUCK THAT PUKE, I was just travelling solo maestro but when you are on the road, you pay the price and even if you can withstand it mentally, your body doesn't quite agree to what you do travelling all the time like some madman lol    

So, I don't think that Axl has a problem now any more or less he may have had in the past, because he is 50 nowdays  - I love you  haha! He could do a world tour, if simply he had set his mind to do it. I ll put it this way: there is nothing he cannot do, if he really wants to & if does believe into to it.
This is what I consider one of his biggest strengths & I always admired him for this & I am proud to say that he is my idol. Some people characterize him in different ways, but there is always more than just one way at looking at things. What I know for sure, is that when people don't get what they want from those who expect to be givers, they simply stop thinking logically , and this also is another difficult aspect to it, at least in my opinion! Dealing with people's madness! But just like with everything and everyone else, regardless if you are in a band or not, there is a price to pay & I think he has already done this. However, the reward is that you don't have anything to fear. What I also learnt is that philosophy and rnr dont really go together that much, I mean you really try, I don't want to spoil it for anyone but 9 years 'on the road', that's what I have learnt! They dont match, as much as you may goddamn fuckin want to! So , you know what, what-the-fuck-ever!

(Marla, the cancer in my life! My name is not 'Tyler Durden! & I do not have a band, 'Becky'! Geezus...... 'Becky will never get it. Even if I will compose a song with the band I dont have called 'Things are not the way you think that they are',  'Becky'will not be able to get it, and this is absolutely fine with me nowdays.......) Sorry for the lecture. You got an exclusive btw.... I havent spoken for that stuff, erm never.

So again, thank you Axl for the letters!.......... 

   

So who was that calling me an idiot?

Axl. :)





/jarmo

don't know how accurate Tommy's quote is but he says there are 22 other songs from the Chinese sessions that haven't been released.

""Stinson says that there?s ?a bunch? of GNR material written and still waiting to be recorded - ?some of it worthy of finishing, some of it probably not? - in addition to 22 songs recorded during the ?Chinese Democracy? process that were not included on the album." - Tommy, 11/13/11

I'm not expecting anything just happy they are touring but you cant argue the fact that it is time for some new tunes. Not saying or expecting that they do; but it would be cool if they threw some new songs in the mix........I love CD but they been playing most of that album since 2001.  Granted we got estranged civil crazy & used to love her............I'm hoping for some new stuff this summer.............Bring on soul monster or whatever else is hiding up the sleeve............

where is this excerpt from ?

February 27th, 2009
spinner.com Axl interview by Del James (http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=168)






/jarmo

thank you very much!

ok I read it.

Axl's content was IMPERSONAL, not towards a specific fan & this was in 2009? Axl did not say in this interview, use my line 3 years afterwards towards a specific fan in your forum because you are an admin. you are hurting people unintentionally. do you understand?

Get a clue.

I answered to the question who said what was quoted. Nowhere did I claim Axl said that about the poster in person.

Stop following me around and pointing out my "mistakes".  : ok:




/jarmo

I do not follow you around correcting your mistakes. I am not your teacher or your mamma. OK, then, you confimed and I understood now.
Geejuz......

Has it been 14 years already?

Id much rather be arguing over which song off the NEW cd is btter, than arguing over this pointless shit.

Based on previous comments made by Axl, even back a decade ago, I think it was evident that their plan was to do a world tour after the album was released.  Since the release they've done Asia, Australia, Canada, Europe, South America, Mexico, US, etc.  Now they're doing one more round in Europe for the summer festival circuit, and we'll see what happens. 

Funny thing is that people used to complain that they didn't tour.  Now touring isn't exciting enough without a new album. 

Guns doesn't really need studio time to release a new album.  It's well known that they have another album's worth of material that's either finished or close to it (based on comments from the band members).  So I imagine it comes down to business issues with Interscope in terms of new music.

It would be cool if, after the tour wraps, they could get the rest of the CD era music released and go to work on a new album with the current lineup.  But the record industry is a joke right now and they're forced to deal with Interscope ,who badly botched the release of the last album (e.g. releasing an album booklet full of errors when a correct version was available).  It would be a lot easier if they were able to go the independent route but it is what it is

Exactly! In theory, we could get an album literally as soon as Axl and the label come to terms.  Especially when you consider that initially Axl wanted to put the next one out a year apart from Chinese.  This fall marks four years.   You would hope he has something in the works...:nervous:...soon.

Last I read about a new album, Axl said that as far as a new album, it was something that they have not focused on.  and actually as far as releasing a new album  one year later he said something along the lines of.."maybe next year, same bat time- same bat channel"- not that he wanted to. When Del did his interview with him in '09  he said he didnt know and didnt care  and that he'd like to get another one out in this life time.

Yes, he also said in 2006 that they were working on 32 songs, 26 of which were "almost done."

Tommy said in late 2011 that they have remaining 22 songs from the CD era recorded, and a "bunch" of material that is written but not recorded.  This corresponds with what Axl said in 2006.  The follow up may not be 100% complete but it's gotta be close.  I think it is logical to conclude that they have enough material that it wouldn't take much if any recording time for them to put out a new album.  They may need to complete some things on the production/mixing side. 

But, like I said, getting it released is another thing.  They made their displeasure with Interscope clear following the way the release of CD was handled,  so who knows what their relationship with the label at this point.  The ongoing changes within the music industry could make things "interesting."  Go to the Interscope website and the first two products you see them pushing are not even music, it's the Beats by Dre headphones and some coffee table book about women's asses  :hihi:

Actually as I look more at the website, GnR is no longer listed on Interscope/Geffen's "Artists" webpage, and only comes up if you search for them (and all information that comes up dates back to 2008).  But, they are listed on Universal's page.

My guess is this (and this is just my guess):


GNR will tour Asia/Europe and continue the momentum of this tour.  Then they will come back and take a few months to gather themselves and then I beleive everyone will be ready to start the next page in GNR studio recordings.  I predict this will be a rocker that will will be appease both young and old GNR fans by combining the bext attributes of both eras in terms of sound.

GnR should have encouraged the fans to make videos and had them submit it for judging by the band. '

There was a disappearing act more than there was a lack of promotion, but I think he was fearing the worst, an expectation of a "worst of all time" (maybe?) from the critics, was pissed off at how things were being handled by the record company, The video didn't come out the way Axl liked it, so it's sitting on a shelf. It could've been used as background at the shows at least!

Nothing wrong with Pearl Jam, all explained in the PJ20 why Vedder escaped the hype machine, but he had the support of the record company. He didn't want to be the face of Pearl Jam because it wasn't HIS band, it's Stone Gossard's and Jeff Ament's band. Same how Phil Collins is about Genesis, he joked about it not being his band plenty of times. Pearl Jam are kind of like Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers - you know you get a good show, it'll be a lot of fun, and it's sort of where GnR are at - all about the live gigs.

Music videos are borderline irrelevant. Festival shows are where people see bands. GnR can sell live streaming shows for a few bucks at a random gig... I think that's great for those who can't go, or can't afford to go, or stay out late. Not the concert experience, but you're watching it as it happens.

Maybe GnR can do a "Storytellers" type show where they can capture the Up Close and Personal on TV, but then everyone's asses are going to be in seats. I think that would be cool because Axl can talk about the songs for a little bit. Those shows don't get edited that heavily, sometimes they take a song or two out, but it's usually one take and they're done.



New music's only going to happen if they can make money back on it.  And he's sitting on songs that Geffen could pull the "we own the tapes" card if they prove they were recorded from 95-08. He has enough songs to take him into retirement, and prob. still writing new ones.

Expect one or two new ones to show up on a soundtrack or benefit CD.

Didn't he say in the VH1 interview that he didn't release any videos for CD as he wanted the fans to experience the music, and make their own stories for the songs? I paraphase immensely, of course.

They made "videos" for the screens, but I just think the days of NEEDING to make a video for your music has kind of passed. Live events do way more to promote a band, but in GnR's case, that hasn't exactly worked in their favor when it comes to festivals. 

They're doing what they can, in their way, to get the music out there, and LA Times kind of spelled out what was going on this year - the Rock Hall, more touring, and fishing around for a record deal, and that's not really a big priority.

Go see the shows & enjoy it, because once they do decide to go ahead with recording, who knows when they'll be back on the road.
 

I also think he has pretty much spelled it OUT. Oh, this diety, true & beautiful, My only Queen, Queen of Ignoramus, here I giggle, in secrecy. & total disharmony.

Artists, ALWAYS, compose, its part of who they are. Whether this will make it out alive or not, or if it is a good idea, its another story. I was going to say something philosophical but then I remembered of what I was only recently told, which was one of them ancient ones again, cynical and loyal,a true old time classic! Once upon a time, a great thinker was sitting in the Agora & people around were making so much noise, he had to stand up , and he said: Stop people! You have to choose! He said: " Freedom OR Peace! You cant have both! "  I am grateful about the Freedom. & Peace. But it could have never been Peace & Freedom. & if thats what you would like to have had, then you think about a couple of things first about people.... 

Its the sequence by all of those whispers and letters that made it out alive in the Agora, of this great Bazzar, trying to fish a record deal. 

I will go and see the shows and enjoy it. I worked for it & got my own ticket. & I paid for it. Personally. Nothing philosophical about it, just $ - I think he did spell it out, he said: Go get your own. & Peace. Freedom can last forever, peace does not. I can spell it OUT Even which would have been so odd in chances.

Maybe we are making just an assumption here & we need to accept this fact. Maybe we can just be only sure about ourselves and no one else really.  :)