Here Today... Gone To Hell!

is that first picture the actual line for GNR? When did people start lining up

Looks kind of dark out to be the actual line!

No.

Here is a pic of the venue today thanks to Fernando.

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I do not think it is actual line.  The pic is apparently copied from here:

http://thekingoflimbspart2.com/2011/09/26/problems-radiohead-tickets-roseland-ballroom/

As my company is close to the venue, I went to there 2:30 PM today and no line was there yet (although there were a few people in/out of the venue).  The lady from box office told me that gunsnroses.com Gold VIP tickets can be picked up after 5:00 PM.  And she also told me that no camera is allowed to be brought in the venue.

Crap, srsly???  I am bringing a tiny little purse so I have no place to stash mine.   :'(

Crap, srsly???  I am bringing a tiny little purse so I have no place to stash mine.   :'(
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Yeah, that is what she said to me.  But you may try because when I went to see GN'R at DCU Center @Woucester, I left my camera in the hotel as ticket master's venue information says no camera is allowed.  But actually, bunch of people were bringing with their camera without no problem.  As Ticketmaster for Roseland Bollroom also states no camera policy, you may miss once-in-a-lifetime experience if they should not care about camera!  I decided to go with my iPhone.

http://www.ticketmaster.com/Roseland-Ballroom-tickets-New-York/venue/95

See you all at the show!

I'll be the big (6ft3 260lbs) blond-ish guy with the enormous skull (punisher emblem) on his shirt.

We leave in about 5 min to head down to the city (2 hour drive-ish).

On cameras:  If it's a camera, they might not let it in. If it doubles as your phone...they won't even blink, usually.

headed to metro park in jersey at 6! staying at the Hudson, getting ready to rock the fuck out!!!! lets all fucking rage out!!! going to be awesome!

Have a great time every one look forward to reading your reviews of the show : ok:

To anyone going to the show, get some video please!!  :beer:

Still no line, just walked by on my way to the hotel...  :peace:

enjoy my friends!!! and keep us posted  :beer:

No cameras? Bumblefoot has been promoting that app for people attending to take and post pictures.

Yea that's from your phone, they don't want any digital camera. They alway say it and people never listen but its your risk.

My babysitter, my sister, is late  :rant:
Still in Rhode Island. Is like 3hrs to Manhattan... Days like these I love the fact the my fav band is not "normal". U know, usually on after 11... lol

Can not wait to hear how long of a show it turns out to be. 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4XDl1t8Lmg

1:19 - Wait For It!!!

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/jarmo

If your here look up, looks like they dropping confetti and balloons.

Totally xcited for updates on this show. Is anything going on right now? Opening band playing or anything?

Can someone put a pic up of the VIP passes?  Just wanna see what they look like I have one for the Ritz show.  Also damn it feels great to be back on this board again.  I don't think I have posted for 5 years.  Seen GNR 6 times since my last post here. LOL. Hi Jarmo! 

According to some fans on Twitter, Manitoba finished up around 11pm.

Yea stage is setup now we wait.

GN'R is on stage and opened with Jungle.

can someone please, update ?
we'll die here !!  :confused: :confused:

Welcome To The Jungle
It's So Easy
SOME OTHER SONGS LOL
Rocket Queen

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No updates but lots of pics already taken here and there!

http://gnrworld.net/2012/02/10/roseland-ballroom-new-york-set-list-pictures-videos/ (http://gnrworld.net/2012/02/10/roseland-ballroom-new-york-set-list-pictures-videos/)

This is like a dream come true. I'm probably not going to be able to make it to any of these shows possibly Detroit but I doubt it. From the pics so far it looks like a totally different band, seeing them all crammed into such a small stage is really awesome! Hope there will be lots of updates after the show.

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any pics, but updates...  :-\

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Some sites posted some set list...but all different from one another.  I rather wait then post anything!

Good to see Dizzy and Chris not hidden on stage anymore.   : ok:

So with Chinese not opening show tonight can we officially say Chinese Democracy tour is over?  Also anyone got the VIP pics? LOL

I'm sure that "Up Close and Personal" will always be considered part of CD.  Remember "Skin N' Bones" 93 was part of UYI tour, just a different name for those shows.


Cool pics from everyone so far too!!

via @FLebeis twitter


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Paradise City

I don't know. I'm going to have a kick ass time on the 24th in Atlantic City at my first GN'R concert. I just find it strange how, even with a smaller setting and more hardcore fans, they play the standard set-list. I'm not even suggesting playing new songs, I would think they would atleast play songs they hardly play: My Michelle, Think About You, Nice Boys, Catcher, There Was A Time, Scraped, Out to Get Me.

 :-\

 

The setlist is not out there right... so how can people start complaining bout the setlist........

As long as Estranged and Don't Cry are still there I don't much care about the rest.

WASN'T BAD, JUST BALLAD HEAVY....WHAT WAS THE SONG TOMMY DID?

What was the setlist?

I think they should have made these intimate shows more hard rockin' songs only. Like appetite songs, the faster illusions songs like perfect crime, dont damn me, and the faster Chinese songs like Scraped, Rhiad, Shacklers and then thrown in OMG. That way the energy would have been much crazier. I don't know thats just me lol

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I was at the show. That setlist is definately wrong.

It started off like this

Intro (Dexter)
WTTJ
It's So Easy
Brownstone
Estranged

Can't remember after that for sure but those were definately the first 4 songs.

Adorable!!!!!!!
Thanks  :love:

reminds me of the estranged video

Don't know if it's posted already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Emo7mc8n8

Nightrain

Happy Bday Axl

http://youtu.be/cXqm3_AsJtE

I've been trying to fall asleep for the last hour, but I can't because my ears are ringing like a god damn church on sunday, so I figured I'd try and write my review now.

It was definitely was AMAZING and INTENSE.

I've seen bands at Roseland before, and many other of the similar sized NYC venues, so I knew to expect it to be loud. But most bands don't play for over 2 and a half hours! It definitely was one of the loudest shows I've ever been too - even the ballads sounded heavier.

I'm not going to write like a formal review because I am not a good writer so I will just list some notes

- There was almost no wait between the opener and Guns. Everyone around me placed bets after the opener ended, and I was off by like 45 minutes. They hit the stage at almost exactly 11:30, the opener didn't finish till just after 11.

- They opened with the Dexter intro, but unlike the 2011 tour, the first song was Jungle. It was the usual Jungle/Easy/Brownstone pairing, and it sounded great and it was really high energy. Then they played Estranged, which was just epic. I *think* they did RQ almost right after this.

- Definitely worth noting: from my vantage point, it didn't really seem like they had a "definite" setlist like the previous runs. Axl and Tommy were going back and forth a lot deciding what to play next, and the order of the songs was much different than past shows I've seen. For instance, Tommy's solo was part of the encore. He played "Motivation" from his first solo album, Village Gorilla Head, and it FUCKING ROCKED

- They didn't play Street of Dreams

- The first new song they played was about 6 or 7 songs in, and it was This I Love. Axl sounded amazing in the smaller venue on it.

- The crowd was INSANELY PACKED. I've seen "sold out" shows at Roseland before, and none of them (not even the white stripes show that scalpers were outside selling tix for 200 bucks to) were this packed. The entire floor, all the way back to bar was packed. The upper mezz section was filled as well, just completely packed. and the crowd didn't thin out at all, everyone stayed. It was a great crowd imo.

- DJ still found a way to go out into the crowd for Nightrain, he went up on the side stage area which ran along the GA floor.

- Whole Lotta Rosie was fantastic, it seemed to have a little more intensity than usual.

- Beta came out at one point with a microphone, and got the entire crowd to sing Happy Birthday to Axl. He seemed to appreciate it all very much, he almost seemed shy about it. It was a very cool moment.

- definitely want to give a shout out to htgth user Cotis who I saw up against the rail, dead center, all night rocking out. I'm too old for that but it's awesome to see the real fans working to get up front and giving the band such a good reception. it really seems like the band feeds off the crowd, and it really seemed like that a lot tonight because of how close everything was

- All in all, I just definitely got the feeling, since there was no pyro, a smaller stage etc, it seemed to bring things together, made the focus on the music, and the band is just so tight that they pulled it off great.

If I think of anything else before I fall asleep I'll post again, I'll try to post the few pictures I got tomorrow.

Hope everyone else who went had a good time and got home safe.

Here is one pic  http://imgur.com/pqVVh
 
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The song Tommy did is called Motivation and it can be found on his first solo record, titled Village Gorilla Head.

I didn't feel like the show was ballad heavy - seemed like the same amount as usual. To me the ballads seemed more epic and intimate in this setting, it was really cool.

I absolutely agree, as far as without the pyros , the focus was so intense on the music, and it was LOUD, but the sound was incredible, ha I saw you up in the mezz from my viewpoint I was dead center on the floor about 20 people back from cotis!!!. ROck on!!  :beer: :peace:

Just to add a bit more from my perspective the crowd was insane throughout the show, got thrown a bit as they played alot of the songs in a different order. Was kinda surprised for Nov Rain, Axl didnt waste anytime, and played it so solid!. Civil War was so much intenser than the show I saw in IZOD, was so much more intimate and in your face, completely enjoyed it, and everything before and after. Was funny during Better, Beta was rocking out on the right side of the stage. And you know Axl was singing Beta,lol

civil war

http://youtu.be/0_AbKvUuIAg

shout out to yourself rocking the fuck out during Motivation! very few people knew that song but those of us that did, it surely had a different feel.

halfway through when Ron was center stage some dick behind us was asking people around him "hey is that robin finck? the NIN dude? he cut his hair and god he looks like a moron". needless to say, I'm pretty sure this was one of the guys that got passed out and over while crowd surfing...

definitely a change of pace with Jungle to open. it's been awhile since I saw a show with Jungle, and surely caught myself, Redman, Trocc, Elias all by surprise. we kinda looked at each other and said "WTF?".

can't wait for the next few shows - going to be a busy week! : ok:

nobody has the complete setlist?

setlist
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/guns-n-roses/2012/roseland-ballroom-new-york-ny-43dea347.html

        Welcome to the Jungle
        It's So Easy
        Mr. Brownstone
        Estranged
        Rocket Queen
        Sorry
        You Could Be Mine
        Better
        This I Love
        DJ Ashba Guitar Solo
        (Ballad of Death)
        Sweet Child O' Mine
        Instrumental Jam
        (Another Brick In The Wall: Part 2)
        Axl Rose Piano Solo
        November Rain
        Civil War
        Whole Lotta Rosie
        (AC/DC cover)
        Knockin' On Heaven's Door
        (Bob Dylan cover)
        Nightrain
        Encore:
        Motivation
        (Tommy Stinson song)
        Paradise City

Note: incomplete and out of order

waiting for tomorrow at Terminal 5  :peace: Very good show, just bad they didn't changed so much the setlist.

Great show last night!  Axl seemed to be in very good shape and so happy, he was so nice to shake hands to the audience in the front row!
I believe they also played "Don't Cry" and "Patience" in encore, although I don't remember exact order...

Encore for show was Madagascar, Dont cry , Motivation, Patience, PC.

dont cry http://youtu.be/A0NiXoLPuoc

I tried to upload a pic of Gold VIP pass, but I do not know how I can...  It has the very similar pic of the picture below (the one on litho), one side is metallic, and the other side is normal, and "VIP" on both sides.

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From the list the security guy had last night, it seemed only 20-30 people purchased Gold VIP.  They gave us the passes just before 30 minutes of the door open.  When you go to the RITZ, please make sure to bring your Photo ID with you, because I saw group of two ladies who purchased Gold VIP could not get the passes because they did not have Photo ID (they only had credit card etc.) and told by the security guy to go to the general waiting line... It was just before 30 minutes of the door open, and that was too bad...

I would give my left nut to see any of these small venue shows...and we still have the setlist complaining douchebags bitching cause they didn't play the set they wanted to hear. Can't anyone be  content that they were in the presence of a legendary band in such an intimate setting?

Frank had this star tattoo done at Hart and Huntington at the same time that I was getting AXL Rose Stitch!  Sounds like you guys had a blast!

I didnt catch the arena tour last fall, and they're playing a different set than the two previous GNR show's I saw in '06 and '02, so I'm totally pumped to see such a great setlist in such a small venue.  I never thought they'd play Estranged, Civil War, Dont Cry, etc again.

.     Thanks nats  :peace:

So did anyone meet any of the members or see them after the show???

I know that the show started between 11:30-11:45 but does anybody know what time it ended.  I'm trying to plan if I should take the train or drive but I wanted to get a ball park start and end time.

It was somewhat after 2.  There actually wasn't much of a wait from the opener to GNR.  I was surprised.  Axl was in an awesome mood.  Great time!!!

finished around 2:15

Thanks for the info.

The crowd was ROUGH, especially where we were standing.  I missed a few minutes here and there due to fights and then security came in and dragged out a few people.  I wound up wearing a few pints of beer.  My friend got randomly punched by some dude who apparently just got out of prison.  They managed to make up after.  To me, it was definitely a bit rougher than the Hammerstein shows in 06.  We were about 4 people deep in on the left hand side.

Axl was incredible and on point the entire show, IMO.  Toward the end of course, he was losing his voice a bit but who wouldn't?  I also noticed he actually doesn't fully leave the stage during solos and breaks every time as I could see him hanging out on the side or sort of in the darkness.  He had a lot of smiles for the crowd and other band members.  He was definitely in a great mood.  I loved it.  Still debating trying to snare a ticket to the Ritz.

Ended about 2:10 AM.  Show was probably 2 hours 30min or 2 hours 40 min in duration  That includes the "curtain call" where the band came out, took bows, thanked everyone for coming, etc.  We were out by the "Jersey Boys" signs by 2:15.

The show was fucking AMAZING.  One of the, if not the, best GnR shows I've see (and last night was my 13th).  Un-fucking-real.  It was loud....my ears are still ringing...and PERFECT for that size venue.

We left gossip around 9:45, walked into the venue, , and got to the center (left to right), about 10 feet in front of the soundboard.

By the time GnR went on...we were DEAD fucking CENTER of the main floor.  Besides the rail, probably the best vantage point in the house.

The crowd was AMAZING.  Not a lot of assholes, not super pushy...but almost sort of rolling with energy and movement.  I was actually surprised there was no surge when the lights went down just before Jungle started.  Lots of "real" GnR fans in the crowd......which was really nice.

One thing I've not seen mentioned:

This show was being pro filmed.  I saw at least 3 (and maybe 4) camera men....and they were getting very "DVD-ish" shots (like the one of the camera men, during November Rain got RIGHT up on stage and was filming Axl in close up).  I don't think there was a CC system set up in the venue and I didn't see any screens/monitors...but we were so close, I might not have.

Axl sounded outstanding, probably the best I've heard him since the 90's...band sounded amazing, too.  I LIKED the set list...I thought it was eclectic and interesting.  Once again, though, I missed My Michelle.  I swear he knows I'm coming to shows and specifically doesn't play it!

It was amazingly cool to get to sing Happy Birthday to Axl!

What's weird is 'center/center' (dead center, about 20+ feet in front of the sound board) wasn't real rough or violent all night long.  My wife and I were actually talking about it on the way home:  We didn't see ONE fight, all night long.


He was happpy, and in a good mood, all night!  He'd run back into the "tent" (and I only call it that because there was some sort of flap of fabric that he'd move aside to go in) back stage, and then he'd be out 2 or 3 min later, prowling the side, talking with Beta (who you could see just about all night on the right side of the stage, just behind and below Pittman).

I'm jealous Pilferk....use to be Madagas on this board and went to one of the Hammerstein shows with you guys. Damn....sounds awesome.  : ok:

show was AMAZING!! First time seeing GNR and it did not disappoint at all! House lights went down at exactly 11:30 and show ended at 2:10am, so a 2hr40min show. Axls voice sounded great and there was a ton of energy from both the band and the crowd. I was 2nd row almost dead center, and it was an absolutely insane show. This is the setlist from last night.

01. Welcome To The Jungle
02. It's So Easy
03. Mr. Brownstone
04. Estranged
05. Rocket Queen
06. This I Love
07. Richard Fortus Jam - James Bond Theme
08. Live And Let Die
09. Sorry
10. You Could Be Mine
11. Better
12. DJ Ashba Jam - Ballad Of Death
13. Sweet Child Of Mine
14. Another Brick In The Wall Jam
15. November Rain
16. Ron "Bumblefoot" Thall Jam- Pink Panther Theme
17. Whole Lotta Rosie
18. Civil War
19. Knockin On Heavens Door
20. Nightrain
-----Encore-----
21. Instrumental Jam #1
22. Madagascar
23. Don't Cry
24. Motivation (Tommy Stinson on Vocals)
25. Instrumental Jam #2
26. Patience
27. Instrumental Jam #3
28. Paradise City

We also sang happy birthday to Axl, don't remember where in the show that happened though...

It was wild over where we were!  Axl takes the same amount of breaks he always did but like you said, he doesn't disappear for nearly as long.  He had great interaction with the crowd and the band.  I would even say he was downright jovial all night.  He said something to the effect of "We had a LOT of fun" at the end, right?  Everyone was in top form and I have seen some shows that have NOT been in top form so it is not something I say easy.  Everything just meshed right.

Anyone going to the rest of these shows is in for a treat. : ok:

I did see the cameras and some shots of the crowd being taken.  It was definitely a pumped crowd, that is for sure but it was like that at the Hammerstein shows as well so I expected no less.

Something like that...and said he'd like to do it again.  When they came out at the end...they were all smiles. 

It bears repeating: EVERYONE sounded good last night. Axl, the band...everyone.  The chemistry on stage was REALLY good, too.  They seem like they've really meshed well.



There was some talk about cameras in another thread (or earlier in this one):  I saw security letting people in with cameras all night long...just in case anyone was wondering.

The place was a camera and smoking fest for sure.

Will be a busy week indeed.  I was happy too that a lot of us diehards were up and front and no fucking way were we letting anyone in.  Good to see user liguns up there too.  And not sure anyone mnetioned it yet, but the opener, Manitoba, was damn good!

What a fucking show. If anyone saw some dude screaming do you know where you are on the streets preshow well that was me. Even had a cop respond "in the fucking jungle, please don't end up in the back of my car". Pumped I got to hear civil war. Better show than the nj show in november. Crowd was great but had to yell at a bunch of idiots with no respect. :hihi:

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The dude said he was filming a documentary about the GNR shows in NYC and such. Hence why he was on stage during November Rain (right up in Axl's face, even moved his monster can on the piano), was on stage for a few other songs, up along the rail, back and forth, side of the stage, on the VIP level shooting, he was ALL OVER.

Did you get his name?

I think we can safely say we ALL want to see that documentary.....

He will be at Terminal 5 (he said) and I'll talk to him then and see what's up.

It was nice having the Vegas reunion front & center like it was. Myself, Cotis, Elias & Troccoli. Was LIguns to the right of Troccoli? If so - hi! I was to liguns right...lol.

They didn't have any chick shirts---at least that I saw at the table I was near!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oQaYhAszcU

full WTTJ from last night.

not mine. credit goes to ChapinxVida from Youtube. just found it

Axl looks like hes in pretty bad ass shape startin off this club tour  : ok:

NY TIMES REVIEW

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/arts/music/guns-n-roses-on-stage-in-unchanging-fashion.html

GUNS N' ROSES Kicks Off Series Of 'Intimate' New York Shows; Video Available - Feb. 11, 2012

GUNS N' ROSES played the first of seven intimate small theatre/club shows and the first of three shows in New York City last night (Friday, February 10) at Roseland Ballroom. According to a review by The New York Times critic Stacey Anderson, "The nearly three-hour show was laden with familiar extravagances: grandiose guitar solos, the band?s aggressively priapic stage presence, [Axl] Rose's multiple costume changes and pliant snake dance. Yet it was a far more streamlined production than past outings; it almost started on time, for one, with nary an onstage tantrum. Mr. Rose remained the sole original member, though the keyboardist Dizzy Reed has hung on since the early 1990s."

The band's setlist was as follows:

01. Welcome To The Jungle
02. It's So Easy
03. Mr. Brownstone
04. Estranged
05. Rocket Queen
06. This I Love
07. Richard Fortus Guitar Solo (James Bond Theme)
08. Live and Let Die (Paul McCartney & Wings cover)
09. Sorry
10. You Could Be Mine
11. Better
12. DJ Ashba Guitar Solo (Ballad of Death)
13. Sweet Child O' Mine
14. Instrumental Jam (Another Brick In The Wall: Part 2)
15. November Rain (with Happy Birthday to Axl Rose)
16. Bumblefoot Guitar Solo (Pink Panther Theme)
17. Whole Lotta Rosie (AC/DC cover)
18. Civil War
19. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan cover)
20. Nightrain

Encore:

21. Instrumental Jam
22. Madagascar
23. Don't Cry
24. Motivation (Tommy Stinson song) (Tommy Stinson on lead vocals)
25. Instrumental Jam
26. Patience
27. Instrumental Jam
28. Paradise City

Multi-camera video footage of last night's concert can be seen below.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=169618

I was on the rail and only saw one camera guy. He went everywhere. The pit infront of the stage, on the stage, on the side etc. Are you sure you didn't just see the same guy in different places or was it really multiple camera men? I didn't notice any others.

Also, I lol'd when Manitoba told everyone not to throw the football at Axl.

Btw, I overheard one of the security guys telling someone that he was told by the production manager to take tophats and ask people to turn Slash shirts inside out. So I guess that "rumour" wasn't a rumour after all. Still, I believe Axl when he said he never asked anyone to do this. It's probably Productions idea.

Happy birthday Axl Rose (Roseland Ballroom, New York - 10.02.2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMOaxMLsbug

Axl Rose Signing Autographs in New York City While on 2012 GN'R Tour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFFRjuzIckA

I've never had so Much fun at a concert before. It was great to finally meet some fellow "board members". Had a blast w/ Trocc n' Redman upfront n' dead center.

Any chance the Slash shirts are being covered up because of the filming? They certainly wouldn't want those shirts making it onto a DVD.

Ehhh.... show was good.  Not great, but good.  

Let me start by saying I refused to read a setlist or watch Youtube videos by the band when the post CD release tour started in 2009.  I wanted to be surprised by the setlist when I finally got to see the band.  I saw GNR at the Izod Center in November and was very impressed.  Coming into these shows I was expecting something different from what I saw at Izod, but unfortunately it was almost the exact same show except that they opened with Jungle and they played Civil War (the highlight of the night for me).  There may have been slight differences here and there but it was nothing that stuck out.  

To be honest even though it was cool seeing them in that setting I do feel somewhat cheated.  I was really looking forward to all 3 of these shows, but now I am worried that Sunday and Wednesday's shows are going to be the exact same thing.  

I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, I think if I saw that show and setlist for the first time on Friday night I would say it was incredible.  I just wanted something different than the Izod show.  

Oh and a celebrity sighting... my fiance and I met Norman Reedus of The Walking Dead.  He seems like a very cool guy.  

I had a great time last night!  I am thinking of picking up a ticket for tomorrow night if I feel up to it.  I'm already going to Wednesday's show too. 
Stopped by the Gossip pre-party and had a good time.  Great show, largest roseland crowd I think I've ever seen.
CHeers

Where was he signing autographs at??

Saw a bunch of people waiting out back when I left - could easily tell most were autograph hounds. Get him to sign stuff then put it on eBay and make a quick buck. Ruins it for real fans.

Not sure what show you guys saw last night,but Rolling Stone just posted one hell of a positive review.

"Say what you will about Axl, when he's onstage he sings his ass off and gives it his all."  -  Andy Greene,Rolling Stone

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/guns-n-roses-kick-off-2012-tour-with-epic-new-york-club-show-20120211

I can't even imagine saying the show was not great and you feel cheated by a setlist.  Really?  The whole point of this show was to see them up close and personal.  Axl is in better shape than ever and if I had the money I would have scored tix to every one, same setlist or not.  It's GNR playing GNR songs with Axl's voice almost better than it ever was.

Rolling Stone, The New York Times, great reviews...I am so happy for the band to get positive press.

It was cool having folks like that up front.  Glad you guys could make it.


Was great meeting you and hanging out!

Haha, sorry, but I just wanted to see something different.  If the whole point of this show was to JUST see them up close and personal with the same setlist I probably wouldn't have bought tickets to all three shows.  I realize there are certain songs that will be played every show and I completely accept that.  But come on, Whole Lotta Rosie, Another Brick in the Wall, The Pink Panther.... at least change up the cover songs!  If I hear the same show on Sunday and Wednesday I will be disappointed.  Part of what made me so interested in GNR growing up was that they would break out any song at any time.  I still am dying to hear TWAT live (I missed the first Hammerstein show, but saw the last 3) and I wouldn't mind hearing Prostitute or Scraped, in addition to other UYI songs. 

I think those reviews are written by people who have never seen the band before, and like I said, its something that if I saw it for the first time I would have said it was an incredible show.  But I saw the essentially the same show just 3 months ago. 

By the way, not sure if anyone felt the same way, but I was so hoping to hear Appetite front to back after they played Jungle and Its So Easy.  Would have been so amazing. 

I was there last night and it was beyond awesome.  Not only the best concert I've ever seen, but probably one of the best concerts ever, period!  Anyone that has anything negative to say about the EPIC show last night needs to go F themselves.  Just awesome.  Can't wait for The Ritz on Wednesday. 

LOL ok.... Will you be just as happy seeing the same show Sunday and/or Wednesday?  If so, you need to have your head checked. 

Chicago next week will be my 5th time seeing them in 3 months. Yes, do I WISH I'd hear TWAT or Scraped or something else? Of course. Will I be disappointed if I don't? Fuck no. I'm seeing my favorite band on stage. Doesn't matter what they play in the end, seeing them play anything is good enough for me.

You missed me, just admit it, lol. Sorry, I'm just jealous. :)

I would be UTTERY ecstatic to see the EXACT same show next week.  Estranged, Don't Cry, Civil War, Rocket Queen....umm, yeah.  That works for me. 

I want to preface this by saying that you have every right to your opinion and I can see where you are coming from.  With that said, I have seen them 5 times this year and the  set list was relativly the same with a few changes here or there and it doesn't bother me one bit. I knew when I purchased my ticket and set out to drive 3.5 hours drive today (Terminal 5) that I was going to see the same show but in a smaller venue.  The way I see it is I love seeing them live, regardless of what they are playing. I leave every show saying, "I wish I could do this all the time. It sucks that I only get to do it once in awhile". If I did not have responsibilities at home, I would have bought all three shows, but that is not the case - I have to pick and chose when and how I see the band.  I feel like I have to take everyopportunity because I know there will be a day when they stop touring.

Also, this is not the case for you, but mose people who whine about the set lists are not even going to the shows and sppending the $$, they're reading the set lists on the internet.  And my final thought is concerts are played in different cities and different nights.  They concept is that new people will see the shows and for that they are hearing the set list for the first time.  We are the exception to the rule where we travel to see them play, or are willing to see them mulitpple times in our city if we ahve the opportunity.  Year over year they have changed things up enough like adding UYI songs - Don't Cry, Estranged, Civil War etc . . .

Anyway - my 2 cents

Heath - yeah you fucker shoulda been here!

And I'm probably in the minority here but I would not want to see Appetite played straight through - the setlsit was perfect and was "not the same show I seen three months ago" (As some are saying - ididotic if ya ask me) I'm almost positive this was the first show ChiDem & The Blues werent played.

Either way, lets get ready to rock tonight. G'night New York, see some of you fuckers later.

Yeah, who would like to see their favorite band play their favorite songs in an intimate venue night after night?

 ::)

Not surprised you're the only one who's not happy.





/jarmo

Anyone who is unhappy is free to donate tix to Bandita! :hihi:

When I LOVE something I like to see it over and over again. I saw WICKED 17 times, LES MISERABLES 21 times, ROCK OF AGES 6 times. There is always something unique about each performance. I loved the original cast of LES MIZ so much in London that I saw that show 3 times in 1 week! Can't wait for the Chicago show of GNR at HOB!

Definitely 2 other guys (they were different ethnicities)...but the guy I saw most often was the one who got up on stage during Nov Rain.  The other 2 guys I saw briefly, at other points.  Maybe he just had a couple of friends/assistants who took over when he had to piss, get a drink, whatever.

Anyone got a link to the NY Times review?

I can't find it on the site...

It was positive, but it also played pretty loose with the facts and made plenty of the obligatory "this isn't the old band, sniff, sniff" comments.

2012 -> Deep Purple, Credence, Alice Cooper, Ozzy, etc = OLD BAND ??

More Culture Man...

 :smoking:

GUNS N' ROSES Kicks Off Series Of 'Intimate' New York Shows; Video Available - Feb. 11, 2012

GUNS N' ROSES played the first of seven intimate small theatre/club shows and the first of three shows in New York City last night (Friday, February 10) at Roseland Ballroom. According to a review by The New York Times critic Stacey Anderson, "The nearly three-hour show was laden with familiar extravagances: grandiose guitar solos, the band?s aggressively priapic stage presence, [Axl] Rose's multiple costume changes and pliant snake dance. Yet it was a far more streamlined production than past outings; it almost started on time, for one, with nary an onstage tantrum. Mr. Rose remained the sole original member, though the keyboardist Dizzy Reed has hung on since the early 1990s; the backing musicians suggested a giddy, faithful cover act."

The band's setlist was as follows:

01. Welcome To The Jungle
02. It's So Easy
03. Mr. Brownstone
04. Estranged
05. Rocket Queen
06. This I Love
07. Richard Fortus Guitar Solo (James Bond Theme)
08. Live and Let Die (Paul McCartney & Wings cover)
09. Sorry
10. You Could Be Mine
11. Better
12. DJ Ashba Guitar Solo (Ballad of Death)
13. Sweet Child O' Mine
14. Instrumental Jam (Another Brick In The Wall: Part 2)
15. November Rain (with Happy Birthday to Axl Rose)
16. Bumblefoot Guitar Solo (Pink Panther Theme)
17. Whole Lotta Rosie (AC/DC cover)
18. Civil War
19. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Bob Dylan cover)
20. Nightrain

Encore:

21. Instrumental Jam
22. Madagascar
23. Don't Cry
24. Motivation (Tommy Stinson song) (Tommy Stinson on lead vocals)
25. Instrumental Jam
26. Patience
27. Instrumental Jam
28. Paradise City

Multi-camera video footage of last night's concert can be seen below.

GUNS N' ROSES will perform on Sunday at Terminal 5 and at Webster Hall on Wednesday.

The band in December completed its first U.S. tour since 2006.

In addition to sole original member Axl Rose, the current lineup of GUNS N' ROSES includes guitarists Ron "Bumblefoot" Thal, Richard Fortus and DJ Ashba, bassist Tommy Stinson, keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Chris Pitman and drummer Frank Ferrer.

"Chinese Democracy", the 2008 album released by the current edition of GUNS N' ROSES after a 15-year wait, was officially certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) on February 3, 2009 for shipments in the United States in excess of one million copies. The long-in-the-making, 14-song CD finally arrived 17 years after the last full-length collections of original GUNS material, "Use Your Illusion I" and "II", were released, and nine years after the non-album track "Oh My God" surfaced on the soundtrack of the movie "End Of Days".

"Chinese Democracy" was made available exclusively through Best Buy.

The original five-piece group, along with drummer Matt Sorum and keyboardist Dizzy Reed, will be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in Cleveland on April 14.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=169618

This.

How could someone miss that the point of the "Guns N' Roses-Up Close & Personal Tour" was to see Guns N' Roses perform their songs up close and personal?

The tour isn't called "Guns N' Roses-Up Close & Personal (Including news songs, re-workings of old songs and a lot of things changed so that no one feels cheated)"

Wow, who knew one person's opinion would cause such a shit storm on here?  I am not attacking any of you personally by stating I thought the show was good, but now great.  I explained why I was disappointed and why I may be disappointed with tonight's and Wednesday's show. 

Lumen, its funny you brought up Broadway shows because that is what I was about to use as my point!  So you are the type of person who does like seeing a show over and over again if you like it, and that is great.  For me personally, the only time I saw a Broadway show more than once was Cats because I went on a school field trip to see it when I was younger and I went with my family because they wanted to see it.  I would never go see a Broadway show multiple times even if I liked it.  I don't even watch movies I like on TV all that often because I am always looking for something different to discover. 

Its just my personality everyone.  You can attack me for not loving the show like the rest of you because as Axl would put it, "I've seen that movie too".  I am seriously hoping that tonight is different and especially Wednesday, but if tonight is the same you might be in luck with a ticket Bandita  : ok:

And Jarmo, I do love seeing GNR live.  They are my favorite band.  But even though I am in a good place financially these tickets were still pretty expensive.  Like I said before, I just expected to see something different than the show I saw 3 months ago at the Izod.  I didn't hate the show by any means, it was good.  I cannot sit here and say it was the best show I have ever seen.  Not even close. 

Oh and to russtcb, thanks for the clarification.  Boy do I feel foolish right now!  :peace:

I wasn't at Roseland, but I'm sure it was different since it wasn't in an arena!

How many times did you see GN'R at Roseland Ballroom?



Do you listen to any album more than once? Why? It's the same album!
Or maybe you have a favorite kind of food that you like to eat once a week... Why? It's the same!

That's how silly your "complaint" is in my opinion.





/jarmo

The whole club experience and vibe is what made it outstanding.  You felt like you were really there WITH the band instead of in an arena just watching the show.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, though.  I just get disheartened when people just expect more, more, more.  We have been lucky fans since last year, IMO.  Us East Coast folks have also been doubly lucky to have so many shows nearby.  I bet there are tons of fans who would kill to be in our shoes and have the opportunity to see the "same show" over and over.  We get too much I guess and take it for granted?  I am not personally a big fan of Broadway but I do know when I love something it doesn't get old to me. 

Another Brick in the Wall, The Pink Panther.... at least change up the cover songs!  If I hear the same show on Sunday and Wednesday I will be disappointed.  Part of what made me so interested in GNR growing up was that they would break out any song at any time. 
Another brick/pink panther are not covers. They are solos n' preludes to songs. As for the UYI set list, it wasn't nearly as spontaneous as you may have been led to believe. I too thought there may have been more changes in the set list but I was far from being dissapointed. If I could I'd be going to all 3 area shows.

This band could play every song from every album,some new unheard music,write some songs up on stage,give a complete detailed written account of all future plans,album releases and so on,and something would always be missing or disappointing to some.

I so think your right! Makes me sick the way some complain. When I go too a show as long as I get one I am happy. lol I will never figure out why people think they should get more then they get at a GNR show. I for one have never been disappointed. But you just can't please everyone. Have a blast guys! Wish I could be there. Maybe next time around.

I thought the show was amazing. Can't wait for MD and AC! Saw a few fans that I met in Vegas.

PS-Jarmo thans for the add  : ok:

Artisan News:

GUNS N' ROSES CONQUER NYC, KICK OFF CLUB RUN

Video review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYVkOu_y7h8

Point being; GN'R takes a ton of shit from their "fans" who have decided ahead of time that GN'R owes them more then a GN'R show just because they bought a ticket.

Jesus christ, all I said was that the show was good, but not great!  I explained why and I get people jumping all over me for it!  I know I know, I must not be a "fan" now.  Some of you treat this band like its your little brother being picked on.  I bet you Axl would probably shrug his shoulders at my review and not even think twice.  Why are you?

And Jarmo "Do you listen to any album more than once? Why? It's the same album!".  It takes 5 minutes of my time and none of my money to listen to a song.  Its takes hours of my time to watch a movie and its hours of my time and $100 to go to a show.  Sorry that I have higher expectations for something that I pay for or that I have to invest hours of my time for.  I guess I value my time and money more than you. 

"Or maybe you have a favorite kind of food that you like to eat once a week... Why? It's the same!"  Wow, I cannot tell you how "silly" of an argument this is.  You are comparing eating, a necessity to SURVIVE with going to a concert.  Water is my favorite thing to drink... I guess it makes me a hypocrite to admit that I drink water every single day of my life.  But I guess I'd rather be a well hydrated hypocrite than dead. 

Alright, I give up on this thread.  Onto the Terminal 5 show tonight.  I am apparently the only one who is hoping for GNR to switch it up tonight.  I hope they do, but if they don't I am going to post about my disappointment in the Terminal 5 thread!  :nervous:

I kinda agree with WAR41. But I blame myself for, i guess, thinking that these 3 shows were gonna be special...to me! It was a good show but I cant lie, I did feel "disappointed" for basically seeeing/hearing the same songs/shows. I went to Both Vegas shows 6 weeks ago, so I already had the "up close and personal" experience. I understand its my fault for thinking or having hope of a different show, but I still felt "eh". With that said, I enjoyed the show with my girl but for the first time ever, I left before PC finished. I understand, and I know for a fact that there were people in Attendance watching GNR for the first time ever or this tour, but FOR ME PERSONALLY, it was no where near my fav show. But it was a
Good show! Like I said, I blame myself for looking for "new" songs, either brand new or new on setlist. This is my opinion and just cuz alot of fans here never "complaint", it does not make any less a fan or mean that I will never see them again. GNR IS and will always be my fav band since 1994! I'll be at the Ritz Wednesday. Had tix for Terminal 5 but I live in RI and I have to work. I need sleep. I work Thursday but ive always dreamed to see them there. So I'll suck it up and drive back n straight to work with no sleep.

MY ONE BIG DISSAPOINTMENT WAS THEM NOT PLAYING 'CHINESE DEMOCRACY'  :-[

People disappointed with GN'R should listen to "Sorry", it's Axl's apology to you.

These are the songs that were rehearsed and practiced.  As for the solos, I believe I read somewhere that they all had to learn ONE for the shows so I don't know why anyone would think they are "owed" something different. 

GNR is not expecting to play for the same exact people every night so I think this is where your confusion is.  For the majority of the folks there, the show IS new to them because most people aren't traveling coast to coast to see the band. 

This guy standing next to me kept yelling for "Nighttrain" because this was the 1st show he has seen in 20 years.  I kept telling him he didn't want to hear it yet because it means the show is close to over.  This is the regular guy who is at a concert, not a forum member who reads the set list for every show.  He was rocking the hell out and he kept telling me how he felt like he was back in 87 again. 

I have to agree with War about this.  If you are going to spend the money, you sort of want things to be different in a way and not hear the same set list especially in a club type setting. Maybe substitute "Sorry" for "There Was A Time or "If The World". Maybe even do something where  a song is being played with the acoustic guitar like in Argentina 93.   It's not complaining but I think it's more constructive criticism if anything. This is part of the reason why I didn't spend my money to go see  GNR again. I didn't want to hear the same thing being played while being on my feet for 5+ hours as much as I love this band. I think hearing an album is on your time and much cheaper than spending $100 for tickets.  With that money, you can do something else that may interest you.  Just my opinion.

Oh, so the issue was time?

Well I'm sure you're happy to notice that the set wasn't over 3.5 hours like the one in Tokyo in December 2009.  : ok:





It's only silly if you don't get the point. You obviously didn't.

It's not a necessity for most of us to do something we enjoy over and over again.

I enjoy drinking coffee. I drink coffee every day if I can.
It's not a necessity. I enjoy it. I drink it. It pretty much tastes the same every time. Is that a problem? No.







That's the spirit. You get to see the best live band on the planet in a small intimate venue and you're ready to post about your disappointment.

 ::)

And if they switch even one song in the set, I expect you to be nowhere to be seen... Unless you find something else to complain about... Now that would be shocking.



I'm sure if GN'R played a free show in your living room and you'd still find something to complain about.



/jarmo

I think you are all right!  : ok:

See you all at the show. Going with my 19 yr old daughter tonight, her first real rock concert!!!

If terminal5 is exactly as great as rose land I will be stoked!  :smoking:

From Tommy's Twitter:

tommy_stinson Tommy Stinson
In case anybody was wondering, I had a drunkcident the other night and played "Motivation" in the wrong key.

I think we've been a tad harsh on WAR41. I too thought there were going
to be some changes figuring these were going to be warm ups for the European Tour.But I wasn't dissapointed a bit. It was a great set that fairly represented AFD,the UYI set n'Cd. It was a privilege to see GN'R in a club w/ true fans that didn't sit down when an MTV Staple wasn't being performed.

I am not pointing fingers at him in particular but it just irks me when any one person thinks a band owes them something different personally because they chose to attend multiple shows. 

ANY VIDEO OF STINSON DOING MOTIVATION AT ROSELAND?

Guns n Roses have been posting reviews on twitter and facebook of positive reviews from fans on ticketmaster, one fan makes an observation of a concert he paid a lot of money to go to, and he is ripped for it-if you are going to cherry pick great reviews, be able to take a lukewarm review from a paying customer also.

What do you base that on?

Who said they are warm up shows for a tour that starts three months from now?  ???




/jarmo

A lukewarm review on the basis of expecting something different from another show you saw a few months earlier is not the same thing based solely on the merits of the most recent show. Seeing multiple shows by the same band within a period of a few months is the exception, not the rule.

Ali

You know something the rest of us don't?




/jarmo

Perhaps all the shows aren't in Europe, but they appear to be Festivals...And they do take place 4 to 5 months from now, not 3..So glad I caught a club show n' didn't have to settle for a festival atmosphere..

What are you talking about?

They just announced a show in Europe today! You don't think they'll try to fill in the gaps in the May to July itinerary?

Your assumption that the Dublin show is a one off before the rest of the tour weeks later, seems a bit risky considering the above fact.





/jarmo

most dates in Europe isn't festival.On the other hand me can't count dates like Sofia in Festival,there are only couple opening acts

Just some of this review: :o

Make no mistake: Guns n? Roses is an arena rock band, one that seems incapable of delivering anything less than a full blast stadium performance and spectacle. So what happens when you cram all that talent and energy into a 3,000 capacity club? You get last night?s show, one that will surely go down as one of the most stunning in recent NYC history. Hit after hit was delivered not only to perfection, but with the top notch showmanship and bravado one has come to expect from Axl Rose and his band. There are only a handful of artists who can bring a show on this level, and they?re sure as hell not playing Roseland Ballroom.

If for whatever reason you have yet to see Guns n? Roses in its modern incarnation, there are two more chances to right that wrong when the band plays Terminal 5 on Sunday night, and then Webster Hall (renamed back to The Ritz for one night only) on Wednesday.

http://www.examiner.com/hard-rock-music-in-new-york/guns-n-roses-come-back-to-the-jungle-at-roseland-ballroom-review

Great review.

Sorry I did not get a chance to join in the pre-party at Gossip. Hope you all had as great a time as I did! One minor note: setlists I see have DJ's solo as Ballad of Death, but I believe it was Mi Amor at Roseland and BOD at Terminal 5.

To those of you going Wed, have a great time! I'm very jealous :)