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Title: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 21, 2011, 12:04:41 AM
Any one going to the show tomorrow? Any plans of recording? Could't afford as I'm only 14 and well... have no job. I would love a recording if possible! Thanks Dudes! Also!! There's gonna be a live broadcast Here: http://iclips.net/watch/guns-n-roses-live-broadcasts-2011 Can anyone who get's this record the proshot of the LA and Vegas show??


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 22, 2011, 06:06:33 AM
Nevermind... bought both broadcasts should have the L.A. audio up soon!!!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 22, 2011, 07:02:03 AM
how did you record it exactly?
i got the audio already, but some drop-outs here and there. gonna record it again.

i'd welcome it if fans work together in this to get a complete, non-trouble-version circulating, not multiple ones with drop-outs.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: norway on December 22, 2011, 10:19:48 AM

Nevermind... bought both broadcasts should have the L.A. audio up soon!!!

Giev!

Please...wud aprentische it vewu much :love:


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 22, 2011, 11:57:13 AM
how did you record it exactly?
i got the audio already, but some drop-outs here and there. gonna record it again.

i'd welcome it if fans work together in this to get a complete, non-trouble-version circulating, not multiple ones with drop-outs.

I used Audacity... Very clear so far... but file is 2 Gigabytes!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: russtcb on December 22, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
You guys are awesome!! This is why I recorded Detroit and Youngstown. It was an effort to give a little back to all of you guys who work out recording, editing and sharing everything you can!

Can't wait til the audio is up! Thank you so much for your hard work to help out other fans!!

 :beer:


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Ulises on December 22, 2011, 05:30:22 PM
It's up!!!!


Someone PLEASE capture it!




EDIT: People are complaining because there's no "Chinese" and "Jungle"
EDIT 2: They just uploaded "Chinese" and "Jungle"!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 22, 2011, 08:17:52 PM
I'm doing the split audio tracks as we speak!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 23, 2011, 02:25:22 AM
I'm on Madagascar now... this is more work than i thought!!  :drool: But I will have it up soon! Split audio tracks and the sound check!! Possible some artwork too  :smoking: :smoking: :smoking:


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 23, 2011, 02:45:39 AM
PLEASE PLEASE wait!!!!

my capture/edit nearly done!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: gnr-4-ever on December 23, 2011, 02:54:53 AM
PLEASE PLEASE wait!!!!

my capture/edit nearly done!

Where are you going to upload? Torrent or what?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 23, 2011, 02:58:56 AM
PLEASE PLEASE wait!!!!

my capture/edit nearly done!

Are you doing video or audio?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 23, 2011, 03:04:32 AM
AUDIO!!

my stream is REALLY nice, but lets compare to the one "WhatIsItMan" uploaded here.
please be patient, lets circulate the best version!!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 23, 2011, 03:08:17 AM
Dude! I just finished mine... -_____- Oh well... We'll have 2 version now!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 23, 2011, 03:16:39 AM
How many Gigs is your over all file???


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 23, 2011, 06:37:01 AM
my one is around 1,8gb captured in WAV 16bit stereo/44.1khz Audio CD standard, perfect capture (it'll be nicely tracked without any Sector Boundary Errors) originally with full dynamics, not too low, not too loud in volume. but i really need to check the first 15-20min (preshow-easy) from "WhatIsItMan" as my one has trouble in there.

problem is his link doesnt work for me???!  ???


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: mauritox on December 23, 2011, 07:27:01 AM
my one is around 1,8gb captured in WAV 16bit stereo/44.1khz Audio CD standard, perfect capture (it'll be nicely tracked without any Sector Boundary Errors) originally with full dynamics, not too low, not too loud in volume. but i really need to check the first 15-20min (preshow-easy) from "WhatIsItMan" as my one has trouble in there.

problem is his link doesnt work for me???!  ???

i've already downloaded it and it's full of glitches... so if your capture is perfect after 'easy', i don't think WhatIsItMan's is the right choice to patch yours


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 23, 2011, 07:38:03 AM
my 2nd and 3rd capture from the re-broadcasts are better but they miss smth.
what i really need without glitches:
- Preshow
- "Welcome To The Jungle" (ending) - "It's So Easy" (beginning)

anyone can help please??

here is my "Civil War" quality capture in WAV format (16bit/44.1khz stereo [but note that its sourced from a lossy(!) webcast]):

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ebkpo


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: mauritox on December 23, 2011, 08:00:27 AM
my 2nd and 3rd capture from the re-broadcasts are better but they miss smth.
what i really need without glitches:
- Preshow
- "Welcome To The Jungle" (ending) - "It's So Easy" (beginning)

anyone can help please??

here is my "Civil War" quality capture in WAV format (16bit/44.1khz stereo [but note that its sourced from a lossy(!) webcast]):

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3ebkpo

check your inbox and see if it's of any help


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 23, 2011, 08:39:18 AM
thanks, but hmmm....1 cut and some volume problem. was it originally that way??

also need the Preshow!!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: mauritox on December 23, 2011, 08:44:52 AM
thanks, but hmmm....1 cut and some volume problem. was it originally that way??

also need the Preshow!!

yep, those kind of problems are present through the whole file


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 23, 2011, 08:51:01 AM
still could get me the preshow please?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: mauritox on December 23, 2011, 08:52:23 AM
what do you mean with "preshow"? from the dexter intro or the whole "soundcheck"?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 23, 2011, 09:05:28 AM
everything from soundcheck until cd beginning please!

much appreciated   :peace:


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: mauritox on December 23, 2011, 09:06:58 AM
ok you need to give me some time because my upload speed sucks


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 23, 2011, 02:34:52 PM
I'm gonna re listen to the whole thing and do any last minute editing... So far the only thing i see is that at the end It's So Easy Mr. Brownstone starts... Then at the beginning of Brownstone it starts where it's supposed to. So far it's very clean!


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: WhatIsItMan on December 23, 2011, 03:16:38 PM
and another one of my posts deleted... i give up


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: SlashRxR on December 23, 2011, 03:17:41 PM
and another one of my posts deleted... i give up

What Post!?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: tcb20 on December 23, 2011, 06:58:58 PM
well i downloaded the video and when you try and extract it i get a crc error.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: russtcb on December 23, 2011, 07:21:35 PM
VBR mp3s are now up at GNRevolution in this thread:

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?pid=218690#p218690


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: encoded on December 24, 2011, 01:28:22 PM
best audio so far in 2 years of tour? and what a concert :pp


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: jamesdm on December 24, 2011, 02:10:16 PM
VBR mp3s are now up at GNRevolution in this thread:

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?pid=218690#p218690

The quality is really good sadly not all the songs are complete.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: russtcb on December 24, 2011, 04:21:51 PM
VBR mp3s are now up at GNRevolution in this thread:

http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?pid=218690#p218690

The quality is really good sadly not all the songs are complete.

What songs aren't complete? The audio was taken directly from the video files.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Ericnor on December 26, 2011, 05:45:31 AM
Is there a lossless version around now?

-Eirik


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 26, 2011, 06:52:34 AM
a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   ;)


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: russtcb on December 26, 2011, 08:28:22 AM
a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   ;)

I have a couple of questions;
(and these questions are because I know little to nothing, so please don't take them as any sort of smart ass questions)

1) How would a flac conversion help the audio on these if it was just a webstream in the first place?

2) Did I somehow do something wrong causing "skips"?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Ericnor on December 26, 2011, 09:38:27 AM
a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   ;)

Looking forward to it...  :)

-Eirik


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: serp616 on December 26, 2011, 10:57:46 AM
where might i find avi files of this?
or is there a dvd out already?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Limulus on December 27, 2011, 01:13:30 AM
a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   ;)

I have a couple of questions;
(and these questions are because I know little to nothing, so please don't take them as any sort of smart ass questions)

1) How would a flac conversion help the audio on these if it was just a webstream in the first place?

2) Did I somehow do something wrong causing "skips"?

webcast or radio, tv audio these days is compressed in the 1st place, so theoretical you never can get a lossless version out of that. the best would be to get the unedited 1:1 stream audio and listen to that....but this wouldnt be WAV, MP3, FLAC etc. and pretty much uncomfortable to work with on Ipods, CDR players etc., being untracked aswell, and (like Rio 2011) ugly to work with (AAC audio) so the general idea is to capture it in the old school Audio CD format (16bit stereo, 44.1khz WAV). this time a few fans did record, or better: "upconverted" it directly in WAV. compressed sound, yep, like MP3 -> WAV, but the sound still is very nice, just a few minor fixes to do and then leaving it in this format (just FLACing it) without any more up-/downconverting is some good thing to do, but info must be in the folder and info-txt-file name so people can verify it years later that it isnt a lossless version from the start.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Jarl on December 27, 2011, 06:42:03 AM
in other words: if you have the right equipment and good ears (that meens never use a mp3 player because those will wreck your ears) there is a slim chance you might hear the diference.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: russtcb on December 27, 2011, 08:31:54 AM
a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   ;)

I have a couple of questions;
(and these questions are because I know little to nothing, so please don't take them as any sort of smart ass questions)

1) How would a flac conversion help the audio on these if it was just a webstream in the first place?

2) Did I somehow do something wrong causing "skips"?

webcast or radio, tv audio these days is compressed in the 1st place, so theoretical you never can get a lossless version out of that. the best would be to get the unedited 1:1 stream audio and listen to that....but this wouldnt be WAV, MP3, FLAC etc. and pretty much uncomfortable to work with on Ipods, CDR players etc., being untracked aswell, and (like Rio 2011) ugly to work with (AAC audio) so the general idea is to capture it in the old school Audio CD format (16bit stereo, 44.1khz WAV). this time a few fans did record, or better: "upconverted" it directly in WAV. compressed sound, yep, like MP3 -> WAV, but the sound still is very nice, just a few minor fixes to do and then leaving it in this format (just FLACing it) without any more up-/downconverting is some good thing to do, but info must be in the folder and info-txt-file name so people can verify it years later that it isnt a lossless version from the start.

OK, so if it's "lossless" to begin with, how does converting it to flac help, that's what I'm asking. And where are the "skips" you were talking about?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: russtcb on December 27, 2011, 08:32:13 AM
a proper edit (flac) without skips to come 12/28-12/29   ;)

I have a couple of questions;
(and these questions are because I know little to nothing, so please don't take them as any sort of smart ass questions)

1) How would a flac conversion help the audio on these if it was just a webstream in the first place?

2) Did I somehow do something wrong causing "skips"?


webcast or radio, tv audio these days is compressed in the 1st place, so theoretical you never can get a lossless version out of that. the best would be to get the unedited 1:1 stream audio and listen to that....but this wouldnt be WAV, MP3, FLAC etc. and pretty much uncomfortable to work with on Ipods, CDR players etc., being untracked aswell, and (like Rio 2011) ugly to work with (AAC audio) so the general idea is to capture it in the old school Audio CD format (16bit stereo, 44.1khz WAV). this time a few fans did record, or better: "upconverted" it directly in WAV. compressed sound, yep, like MP3 -> WAV, but the sound still is very nice, just a few minor fixes to do and then leaving it in this format (just FLACing it) without any more up-/downconverting is some good thing to do, but info must be in the folder and info-txt-file name so people can verify it years later that it isnt a lossless version from the start.
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OK, so if it's "lossy" to begin with, how does converting it to flac help, that's what I'm asking. And where are the "skips" you were talking about?



Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Ulises on December 27, 2011, 05:16:30 PM
I'll wait for the MP3 conversion of Limulus capture.


Downloading FLAC from a lossy source is a nonsense.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Pinball Wizard on December 27, 2011, 06:48:46 PM
How 'bout a dvd outta this stream? Is anyone thinking of making one?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: zombux on December 28, 2011, 04:57:02 AM
I'll wait for the MP3 conversion of Limulus capture.


Downloading FLAC from a lossy source is a nonsense.
actually it's not, because mp3 conversion from lossy source means double lossy conversion which means even more quality loss from the (unbroadcasted) original.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: svdv22 on December 28, 2011, 05:46:20 AM
How 'bout a dvd outta this stream? Is anyone thinking of making one?

Good question. I'm sure somebody is, right?


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Ulises on December 28, 2011, 06:57:19 AM
I'll wait for the MP3 conversion of Limulus capture.


Downloading FLAC from a lossy source is a nonsense.
actually it's not, because mp3 conversion from lossy source means double lossy conversion which means even more quality loss from the (unbroadcasted) original.

That's a way to see it...

Lossy or "double lossy" is lossy anyway. Keeps sounding like a nonsense to me...


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: Jarl on December 28, 2011, 07:50:32 AM
How 'bout a dvd outta this stream? Is anyone thinking of making one?

there is one on Traders Den and one on Usenet.


Title: Re: LA Forum!
Post by: svdv22 on December 28, 2011, 08:05:08 AM
I don't see it on Traders Den.