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Onsale to General Public
Start: Sat, 10/01/11 10:00 AM EDT

Citi? Cardmember Presale
Start: Thu, 09/29/11 10:00 AM EDT
End: Fri, 09/30/11 10:00 PM EDT

Citi? Cardmember Preferred Tickets
Start: Sat, 10/01/11 10:00 AM EDT
End: Sat, 10/29/11 10:00 PM EDT

Will the Citicard member presale actually just for citicard members ?

You have to pay for it with a Citi Card if I'm not mistaken - so yes exclusively Citi Card members.


Add me to it!

the tour routing is very interesting. Looks like the band plans to be in the north east for a week or more. The tour is certainly shapping up!

Show is also up on Ticketmaster's website

awesome!!! I'm down!  Camden is a great venue despite the shady area.  One of my favorite places for a show.

fuck yeah!! saturday night. holiday weekend! it's my favorite time of year and it just got a whole lot better!!!!  :beer:

i missed the announcement on WMMR but i heard they announced it around 7-8am. i also heard they gave away some tickets and will be giving away more as the show approaches.

GnR sold 15,000+ in philly back in 2002. that was 9 years ago but i gotta believe this show will sell out since it only holds 7,000.

How soon can I request, get, and pay for something with a new Citi card?   ???  any ideas out there?

i have a citicard. but i have a question for anyone that has done a presale or is familiar with how they work....

are all seats available for the pre-sale?

cause based on my experience with other concerts, sometimes only a limited selection of seats are made available. very good seats, but not the best.

normally i would get GA, but my dad is going. he's 68 and while could stand the whole show, sometimes the pit area just gets too packed and can be tight in certain areas. so seats are a must for me. 

I called Monday asking the same questions they told 7 - 10 days.  :( I hate this Citi Card pre-sale shit. I just have to try Sat.  :nervous:

I agree, however I do not know one person who uses Citi Bank ....

How many does this arena hold, I will try on Saturday too, what is the likely hood it sells out quickly ? Also are the prices for tix 60 and 360 ?

camden is a small venue holds like 7500 tops. could sell out quickly since its a holiday weekend and all.

I think it holds around 7,500. I never been to this area yet. The top price for GA should be around $90.

The website says it holds 7,000 indoors.

GnR sold out the Wells Fargo Center in 2002 (might have been called the whacovia center back then - but that holds over 15,000 i believe for concerts). and i believe it sold fairly quickly because they added a second show. i think this show will sell out - philly is a huge market - but i don't think it will be right away. how soon it sells out (or IF it sells out at all) probably depends on how much it gets promoted locally.

yeah is anyone else seeing that ticket prices are 327 dollars?  Is that a mistake? Or are those like luxury box seats.  They cant be charging that for GA...

the live nation presale starts the same time and speaker was the password for the ct show im going with that this time around as well
hope it works

the citi password is the first 6 digits of your citibank card or anyones for that matter

I just won two tickets on WMMR, so I am a happy guy, lol.

congrats dude!!!  thats awesome!

there is now a Live Nation/Mobile App presale tomorrow as well.

does anyone know the passwords for both of the presales? do you need a password for the CitiCard or do you just need to use it?

you need to use the citi card.  The first 6 digits of the credit card is the password.

got it. thanks!  : ok:

I am seriously pumped for these tours and this show.  I hope Axl talks about what happened the last time he was in Philly.  This will be my 23rd time seeing GN'R . . . it's going to be awesome!!!

I'm also going to East Rutherford, Hartford, and the Wilkes-Barre shows, at the very least.  I may try to hit one more once all of the dates are announced.

i got people i work with all logging in tomorrow, so i gotta make sure i have the password for all 3 presales. any help would be appreciated!

here's the latest info on Live Nation...


Onsale to General Public
Start: Sat, 10/01/11 10:00 AM EDT

Artist Presale
Start: Thu, 09/29/11 10:00 AM EDT
End: Fri, 09/30/11 10:00 PM EDT

Citi? Cardmember Presale
Start: Thu, 09/29/11 10:00 AM EDT
End: Fri, 09/30/11 10:00 PM EDT

Live Nation / Mobile App
Start: Thu, 09/29/11 10:00 AM EDT
End: Fri, 09/30/11 10:00 PM EDT

Citi? Cardmember Preferred Tickets
Start: Sat, 10/01/11 10:00 AM EDT
End: Sat, 10/29/11 10:00 PM EDT

US $49.50 - US $0.00
US $49.50 Ticket + US $13.00 Fees =
US $62.50
US $0.00 Ticket + US $327.50 Fees =
US $327.50

I got an email from Live Nation this morning saying the password is "speaker."

I thought the price listed for $327 would be a mistake.  :-\ I just looked tonight and the prices listed are

US $49.50 - US $0.00
US $49.50 Ticket + US $13.00 Fees =
US $62.50
US $0.00 Ticket + US $327.50 Fees =
US $327.50

I hope the $327 is not for GA.

it must be, or it could be a luxury box.  I doubt GA would be $327 at this show but 50$-80$ for every other show on the tour.  Doesn't make sense.  I've been to Camden like 30 times, it is usually the same or cheaper than most other venues.

that's a mistake. notice the actual ticket price says $0.00. the pit would never be that much money.

for anyone that has never been here, the pit is relatively small. it's very wide and extends a little further than the actual stage on either side, but it is not deep at all. probably only about 8-10 rows if there were actual seats. so if you are in the back of the pit, you are still very close to the stage.

Facebook has the presale password for GNR. Would this be the artist presale on Live Nation?

i saw that and am wondering the same thing myself. that's my guess.

i also thought that issue with the ticket price would be addressed by now. getting kinda late here.

I'll be sticking to the $60 tix for that one if that's the way it is .... but who cares !!!

$95 face plus $16.80 in fees??? ouch!

its Guns N Roses, I didnt even read the price no matter how much I am financially crippling myself on this tour..hahaha

and IM IN BY THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm with you Bodhi. I don't care about money right now. I want to hit as many shows that I can. If I had to I would eat fucking pbj sandwich everyday to save money.  :hihi: 

yeah Im really excited, this will be my 4th show on the tour

Got two GA tickets for this show.... fuck the $$$ - it's GNR! : ok:

Today I did not see the $327.50 listed under the ticket prices. I wanted to see what section it was for.

Does anyone know if that fastpass is good for GA also? 

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 104 ROW K 23-25 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CAMDEN AND IZOD PURCHASED LETS GO!!

This pit sounds pretty fucking cool.  8)

i didn't like the seats i was getting in the presale. gonna try my luck at the general onsale on saturday. i can't do the Pit, so i want 100 level near the center and relatively close to the stage. i may be making a mistake, but i'll take my chances.

I'm in!!!!!!!!!!
Guns N' Fucking Roses!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now the nerves set in...will the show go on???
 :nervous:

I was really surprised by the change in initially advertised price and the price revealed this morning.
Personally, no big deal.  I did settle for the $89 tix because I had told some buddies I'd be going for lower level seats...and that price was over $110...
long story short, I didn't wanna say 1 price and then almost double it for my buddies.

This gig needs to be dubbed, "The World's Most Dangerous Band Visits America's Most Dangerous City!"  :)
Has GNR ever played Camden before?

GNR tix ordered?  THIS I Love.   :love:  :love:  :love:  :beer:

I wasnt thrilled either about the presale seats  but i got them anyway, not sure if the entire center section sold already or if they're holding them for general onsale. This is GnR's first Philly-area show since the no-show in 2002 (i was there) so I'm thinking they might've sold those seats already. All the rock stations are mentioning the show a lot, giving away tix, etc. so i think it'll sell out.

After i paid for my tickets i saw the above post and thought "fuck, maybe they are holding those center seats". I called Live Nation and asked about the "Live Nation Fan Guarantee" i saw on the site -- the lady told me that you have 72 hours to change your mind about your tickets and get a refund, OR if you find better seats (like, on Saturday) you can call them and they will exchange your tix for the better seats (but you have to call and let them do it -- don't buy the new ones first). And it's free to do this -- the $7 per ticket insurance is something different.

Hope this helps. Looking forward to a meetup before the show. Also looking forward to seeing GnFnR in the U.S. again !!! (although i did have fun in Toronto). I'm even taking the same girl i went with in 2002, even though we haven't dated since 2003.   
 : ok:

I got section 101, row z. Figured it would be tough to do much better.

I got 102 row z on the end. I figured you'll still get a good view

As long as I have tickets, I'm good.  Section 104, Row G.  It is a small enough venue that I don't think any of those 100 level seats will be bad.  Can't wait!!

thanks for that information. very helpful. there's no way they sold all the good 100 level seats. i'm confident we will have success on saturday. i probably should have bought some and returned them, but i've never done it before and $900 is alot of freakin money to put out and not have 100% confidence that i would be reimbursed.  :hihi:

i am not the biggest fan of this venue. i've been there several times and for me, location makes a HUGE difference in the quality of the view and sound. the seats i was getting were so average - i gotta at least take a shot.

i was there in 2002 as well. i was second level row 1, left hand side of the stage, about a section or 2 from the stage. had a perfect view of the riot. can't believe it's been 9 years.

i believe this show will sell out. maybe not right away, but eventually it will. and obviously the promoters believe 7,000 is too low a number for this market which is why they inflated prices.

i have had several people text me about hearing commercials on WMMR and wanting to go to the show. i'm telling everyone to get tix ASAP. i can't freakin wait!

we gotta meet up so i can explain in person why D-Mac sucks!  :rofl: just kidding, man.

i do not believe gnr ever played camden. this place opened in the mid-90's and i don't remember there being a venue in camden before that.

i think this will be a successful tour. positive thinking! although all of my friends (many of whom i took to the canceled show in 2002) have sent me e-mails with some variation of: "if axl doesn't show, we are going on a manhunt and bringing him back to our basement for a personal show!" i gotta admit, i don't like that there is a show the night before all the way up in MA, but i am totally confident. before their break this year, they toured the world very successfully. they are a touring machine!

That's classic man. :) 
All I know is that Donovan's led my team to a 3-0 record this season...in every first half!   :hihi:  We're undefeated at halftime 3 straight games!!!  :rofl:
I'm totally down with meeting HTGTH'ers.  I met lots of great fans/HTGTH'ers before Hammerstein and Meadowlands in '06. 
I don't know how Camden runs things...I can't imagine in an area like that there's a lot of tailgating.  Anyhow, what gang colors should I avoid now???   ;D
 :peace:

Tailgating in the main lot is totally cool. I'll be out there for sure. How long just depends on the weather.

Beats the hell outta the $9+ drinks u can buy inside!  :hihi:

Tailgating's a must then.  That's great to here!  My whole vision was parking in a crack-infested neighborhood, dodging bullets as I sprinted for an arena, and then worrying about how the heck I was gonna get to my vehicle. 
 :hihi:

What is the buzz like for this show in the area? Is there a lot of talk or excitement about it? I think it's going to be awesome, especially since it;s a smaller arena too !

i saw a show in the indoor venue a few years back...it is awesome! 7000 people packed in there, its loud and with GNR in there it will rock! tailgating is good too, although november 26th will be colddddddd. this show will be kick ass!!!

is this the arena that is accesible from Penn Station?

there is some significant buzz for this show. my dad just told me he heard it advertised on 94.1 WIP Sports Radio. that is very smart marketing as that is a huge part of the target audience that would go to this show. Also, WIP's ratings right now are very high because the phillies are about to start the playoffs and its football season. this is probably the time of year that they have the most listeners.

Also, 93.3 WMMR is promoting the show and giving away tix. but this comes with some controversy....

Pierre Robert just came on the radio and said he is playing a GnR song and will explain why you shouldn't go. he said the choice is yours but he will explain his side of the story. so gnr fans should listen up and call him and tell him why he is wrong.  http://www.wmmr.com/

Is this the station that vowed not to play GNR after '02, until Axl apologized or something like that?

I'm sure Axl doesn't loose any sleep over what Pierre Robeir thinks .... :rofl:

i think so. they quickly backed off of that though. GnR are in regular rotation. the station blows anymore and they are the only rock station in town since WIP took over 94.1's signal.

Pierre's rant will be in the 1 o'clock hour.

a little background...
- pierre has never been a GnR fan. he told me in an e-mail he does not understand why they are considered a great band.
- pierre is gay. my own personal opinion is that he always viewed Axl as being homophobic (which we know is not true).
- many in Philly felt like Axl gave our city a "kick in the balls" when that show got canceled. Axl was blamed and everyone assumed he was not remorseful. some still hold that "don't fuck with my city" attittude towards axl.

Pierre just said he will explain why no one should waste their money on the GnR show. I'm wondering if Live Nation will have a problem with this. we all got reimbursed for the show in 2002, so if he tries to make the argument that we could waste money, he's full of shit.

That's really all I needed to read.  I don' t understand what the buildup is for the 1 oclock hour just to have someone who is not a fan of the band tell us why we shouldn't see them.  That is not really news.  If he doesn't like them, of course he doesn't want us to see them.  Now if it were a die hard GNR fan about to tell us why we shouldn't see them I still wouldn't listen to them, but that would be something to listen to for a few minutes.

i hear ya, but for me it is big, because pierre is the most influential DJ in philly, probably all time. the guy is a legend. and he has the power to negatively influence the sale of tix. potentially alot of people that are on the fence may be swayed by him. and ideally, this thing would sell out quick and they would have to add shows.

i posted here and am telling my friends to call and e-mail so the station knows that pierre is out of touch. and they MMR should promote and be more positive towards gnr in the future. any little thing i can do to help with the buzz.

as a native philadelphian, i want nothing more than a positive relationship between GnR and the city and its people.

Radio is  dead.  I think you are overstating his importance.  He is a radio dj in one market, any internet blogger has way more pull and reach than he does and there are millions of those.  For example, I live a little less than 2 hours from Philly, and spend a lot of time down there and I have never heard of the guy.  IF this were 1986 pre-internet maybe what a radio dj says would hold some weight...but not in 2011.

Hey,

Does anyone know what would be the expected start time for GNR? I was looking at the 2006 US tour, and it seemed like 11:30-11:45 was the average start time for the band. Is that possible at this arena? What is the latest bands can play for at this center?

The reason I'm asking is that I may not make it to Camden until 8:30-9pm and I don't want to miss any part of GNR.

For those who have been here, what is the latest you can remember a show going on until here. I'm hoping maybe for a 2 hour show from 10-12. I guess I'll get a better idea when the US tour starts....

Thanks for any input...

The show "starts" @ 8pm.. You have at least a 1hr opener + stage change.. If you're there by 9pm i'd think you're fine


Oh and BTW you may want to change your username  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

If Axl and the gang hit the stage at 9:00, I will make mad passionate love to Rosie O'Donnell! 
(it aint gonna happen)

Axl are you reading this  :rofl:

I got presale tix Thursday in Section 201, kinda off to the side. Went on today and saw tix in Sec. 202 (center section) -- called the Live Nation 800 # and they switched my tickets to the better seats free of charge (my credit card will be fully refunded in like 10 days). I had to call and let them order the new seats for me in order to get the free swap.

Then, just for the hell of it -- I looked what was available in the highest priced seats -- and ended up getting 5 seats in the fucking pit, which is only 8 rows deep!!!

Til I get my refund for the seats I swapped, i'm in for over $1500.00 in tickets right now -- Thank God for credit cards!

 : ok:

Now, the fucking wait til the show...

Just upgraded my seats too . Was in the last row in 102, now got stage side aisle seats in row 10 in 104

i got my seats today too. made a change myself after my first order. i ordered 2 sets and have 14 tix in section 101 - the ends of the 2 rows about 6-7 rows back. pretty much exactly what i was hoping for, so i'm glad i waited. still seems strange to me that it appears most of section 102 was never put on sale. that's a big chunk of the best seats that are on hold.

can't wait!!!

this arena is in south jersey, right across the river from downtown philly. from penn station i belive you would take the train to Trenton, and then take another train to Camden and you get dropped off right in front of the venue.

Does anybody know how the pit area seating is numbered? All the charts i've found only show the rows going from 1-8 back from the stage. I'm trying to figure out the numbering from left to right. I have a few tix in row 4, seats 14&15, and 3 more in row 8, something like 48-50. Just wondering where those seats are in relation to the stage.

not sure on that one. i haven't seen seats in that pit in over 10 years. every show i go to in GA. i know in the past some GA tix would have a seat number on them, but it was still just GA. but looking at the live nation ticket sale and how specific your tix are, i guess this is not GA in the pit. that's kinda surprising.   

im pretty sure that is they are numbered just as a way of tracking the tickets.  There are no seats in camden's GA

for some shows they do have seats in the pit. i've been to family events there recently where they had seats. my buddy said there were seats for a concert a few months ago there. i personally have not seen them for a concert in quite a few years, but i saw Pearl Jam there back around 1999 and i sat in seats in row P6 up in the pit.

Has anyone seen this on ticketmaster about a bus tour to NJ ?

http://www.ticketmaster.com/Guns-N-Roses-Party-Bus-To-Izod-Center-All-Aboard-the-Rocks-Off-E-tickets/artist/1646876

If I lived in the NYC area, that would be pretty damn cool.
How ironic to be leaving FROM the Hammerstein to go on the road to a GNR show!  The last time I went to NYC was going TO the hammerstein to see GNR! 
Great memories.
I can't tell ya how psyched I am to see the band live again on November 26th.
It's like an early Christmas present!!!   :beer:

i haven't heard about one for NJ. but i will have about 10-12 people going and i'm hoping 2-4 more. if we can get 16+ we'll probably rent a yellow school bus. it would be about $500, so with 20 people that comes out to be $25 a person. then just BYOB. i've done it for a couple other shows and it works out great. it's a fun time and well worth the money.

if we decide to do that, i will post on here in case anyone is interested. the more the merrier (and cheaper!  :)).

i just called the venue and the lady said that there will be no seats in the PIT. it is GA for this show and that GA tix always have row and seat numbers on them, even when it is GA.

i also asked about curfew in camden i got a worthless answer. she said she is not sure, but that most shows end around 11pm. i said GnR don't come on stage until 11pm most of the time. she said the show is scheduled to start before that, but no set times are available, and the only information she can provide now is that shows typically end around 11pm.

I asked the lady at Live Nation on the phone this morning and she told me there would be seats for this show -- seat 1 to the left of the stage facing it, to seat 50 to the right, in the center pit area. She said if there were no seats her info would show "standing room only" and hers said "reserved seating". So who knows, i guess i'll find out when i get there.

Either way, i'll be closer to the stage than i've ever been! Can't fucking wait! : ok:

How is the drive to this arena? I am driving up from MD and it's about two hours. I told some people I am going to Camden, and get that look like are you serious? Is it really that bad to drive to ?

interesting. if i can confirm seats i will swap my tix. that would be awesome. i hope that's correct.

i noticed that drop-down that says "reserved seating," but it also says GA PIT at the top. and i found some old PIT ticket stubs - Slayer/Manson and Cruefest have a row and seat #, and AIC has only a seat # with GA0 for the row. it's also strange that you cannot pick you seats in that section when you use the map on LN (which is an awesome feature!).

for GnR, seats would be perfect. one problem with that pit is that it tends to get really packed at times. i think cause it's so easy to sneak in there so there's way more people than actually belong. seats eliminates that problem.

I called and was told it was GA Pit. Every concert I've been to with a GA pit has had numbers and everything on it...

not in Camden, it is pretty hard to sneak into the pit.  The pit fans have their own entrance, and wristbands AND tickets get checked everytime you go in or out.  Even hours into the show.

people just hop the fence from the seating area. i've seen it done several times. it's fairly easy from sections 100 and 104. for slayer/megadeth in 2010, i sat in in 100, row A, seat 7. there were people standing right in front of me because there is some extra space there. i politely asked him to leave and things got nasty real fast. i couldn't find a security guy anywhere to help. ended up getting into a major argument with this guy. him and his 2 friends eventually just hopped into the pit.

hmm strange..cause security was all over it at most shows I go to.  Guess you never know till the show.

How is the view at this place? I am in about 9 rows back in section 104, and I am seats 1 and 2 on the aisle stage side. Will I have a good view ?

I've never been in the seating area at this venue, just the lawn, but i've heard from other people there's not really a bad seat when they close off the lawn area. I think you'll be fine in the 100 section.

here's a pic of the SBC. this is taken from the back of section 102. you can see how this setup they have green seats in PIT area. if that is GA those will be removed and there will be a gate put up separating the PIT from the first row of the 100 section.

on the left you can see the aisle separating 102 from 101. you cannot see sections 100 and 104 in this pic. those sections are not bad, but you definitley want to be on the stage side of those sections, because as you can tell, those sections are really off to the side. i'm not a fan of the view over there because it kinda feels far from the stage, especially since it is not really raised very much. but overall, nothing that would be considered a bad seat in the house.

and the first few rows of 202 are awesome as well because you are dead center and raised a little bit (basically right behind where this picture was taken from).   

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2rgngw6.jpg)

I am in section 104, 10 rows back but I have seats 1 and 2 stage side so I should be pretty good right ?

Thanks for that picture! I was already excited about the show, but now i really can't wait! I have pit "seats"  (the people i'm goin with have the same attitude as me -- don't really care if there are seats or not for this show, either way we're gonna be fuckin close!)

Countin the days...  ;D

104 you are looking good, ill be in the same section.... saw a show in 2006 indoors there and not a bad spot to be lets go!  :peace:

For the concert are they going to remove the green seats ?

what's the capacity of that place?

indoor concert i believe its around 7000

GnR-NOW - Yes, those seats will be very good. there really isn't a bad seat in there. sections 100 and 104 are VERY wide. and if you are near the sides, in my own personal opinion, you feel far from the stage with just an ok view of it.

for indoor shows, which this is, the place holds about 7,000.

i have been told by a rep from the venue that there will be no seats in the PIT for this show. that is the usual set up for most shows i have attended there. 

Just got tix in Section 101 row A, super stoked about it ! Going to be right up close and right up front. I hope the selling picks up, theres still a lot of empty seats available

they are incredible seats! how did you get those???

Stub Hub for $130 each, so they are almost face value  : ok: . I can't believe how much people jack up the ticket prices on there....

that's not bad. face would have been $110, so for an extra $20 you are getting some of the best seats in the house.

i was just checking broker sites. its amazing how many they say they have, and all the broker sites have the same tix advertised. a good friend of mine used to work for a broker and i was familiar with the whole process, but i'm not sure how they run their business these days.

I'm excited. I can't wait for these shows to start !!

i have 2-4 extra tix i will be putting on StubHub at some point. Just figured i would post in here so i could sell them to a die-hard.

section 101
row L.
$85 each

great seats about 10 rows back near the center. i paid about $110 ($95 face + fees). So i'm just trying to get most of my money back. 

so if you know anyone that might be interested, please let me know. these are better and cheaper than what you could get anywhere else. thanks!  : ok:

Looks like ticket sales for this show have started to pick up. I keep checking Live Nation and see the seat chart, and a lot of seats have disappeared from a week ago

really? awesome! cause i checked about a week ago and it looked almost exactly the same. glad to hear.

over the weekend, i got 4 texts from friends that heard Jim Florentine on WMMR talking about the Axl interview. He was on with Preston and Steve and they are probably the most popular morning show in Philly. he had nothing but positive things to say so that was all good press.

i also just read that Trunk did a bunch of press today to talk about the Axl interview (Rolling Stone, Boston Globe, and others) so that will be well publicized. I think that interview will help ticket sales. the timing of it is perfect.

so anyway, there is definitely a buzz growing. GnR's name and this tour is getting out there big time. 

How reliable are stub hub tickets? I received them today and they say VIP on them ?

I have 3 tickets available in Section 202, Row H. I bought them and then upgraded to the pit area. Face value w/service charge is $90 each. I'll sell them to someone here for $50 apiece, or make an offer. Right now i just want to get enough for them to get a hotel room for the night, and some beers at the show. Send me a message if interested.  Thanks

now since i got the great izod center show outta the way, its on to camden! how is this show selling? i have to imagin it will be a packed out being a smaller venue

One GA ticket available.

if you go on Live Nation you can select your seats so you can see what is available. it holds about 7,000 and based on what it looks like is left, i'd say about 5,000 or so tix have been sold. not bad but i really thought this would sell out. back in 2002 there were 15,000 people there and they added a second show.

i called the venue and confirmed there is no curfew. the lady told me that they had a show that went until 2am the other night (she said it was some DJ), and that their manager has been warning everyone to be prepared to be working a long night on the 26th.  :hihi:  

 :peace: looking forward and being on a weekend night is soooo much better

Who's opening?

Edit: Nevermind........The Pretty Reckless are opening.

Yup.

After listening to their only album a few times, I'm looking forward to their set.

Are Stub Hub tickets reliable?

I had a good experience with Stub Hub.  Stub Hub backs them up, so....

I just ask because I have tix to this show with don't that is slightly different then what I got directly from Live Nation...........

great week to be pumped for a GNR show, short work week, thanksgiving then capping the weekend off right with W. Axl Rose and gang saturday! wooooooooooooooo

Is Camden NJ really the most dangerous city in the US?

it is one of them. not sure of the latest rankings or how they even determine that. but anyway you look at it, it is one of the most unsafe areas in the entire U.S. the crime rate is high, but what's worse is that the violent crime rate is extremely high.

but the immediate stadium area is safe. and driving there and back is fine too.

It was considered the most dangerous city in America for like five years running.

One of the reasons for this is because it is right across the river from Philadelphia, and Pennsylvania has very relaxed gun purchasing laws, and New Jersey has very strict ones, so people have for many years smuggled guns into New Jersey through Camden. Add in a desperately poor mostly minority local population, terrible schools, as well as little opportunity for work, and yes, Camden has for many, many years been a scary place to live.

But I went to a gig at this venue a few months ago and it was more than fine. Keep your car in one of the (expensive) lots, and when you get to the arena you'll notice if you interact with people that most of them attending the gig are either from other parts of Jersey, New York, or Philly. Outside, the locals won't bother you, as long as you don't bother them.

Because of the crime, they don't run trains at night past like 6 PM, so if you come to the show via train you'll have to take a bus to Philadelphia and then use the train system there to get home. The hours may be different on Saturday. I've only taken public transportation to Camden during the week.

ive been to at least 20-30 shows at this venue, i go there a few times a year, it is perfectly safe.  I just wouldnt wander blocks away from the venue.  if you go from your car in the lot to the venue you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

Thats actually not correct. Trains do run from philly to camden all night long. Its the PATCO line and they have a website with train schedules. Its about 3 blocks from the venue. I've done it and it is ok as long as u r with other people. I would not do the walk by myself.

Oh, my mistake. I only know about the NJ Transit schedule.

Yeah, Baltimore is exactly the same way.  The arena is in the Inner Harbor, which is safe to park your car and go straight to and from the venue, just do NOT wander blocks away from it.  Much like Camden, Baltimore is on that list of "most violent U.S. cities".

here's a link to an interview with Tommy Stinson.

http://www.wmmr.com/shows/matt-cord/

(scroll down to the second podcast.)

nothing earth shattering, but he talks about how well the tour is going, how good everyone is getting along, playing "My Generation" and maybe finding a song to replace it with, Duff probably opening shows in Seattle and Portland, and how long he has been in GnR.

Matt Cord is a DJ in philly and they are friends.

Ron was saying last night that he was looking forward to seeing Taylor Momsen.  I can't help but agree. : ok:

When I told my bro-in-law we weren't going to be seeing Sebastian, he was let down.
When I showed him a video or 2 of Taylor, he perked back up.  :)
My other buddy let me know she used to be on a show called Gossip Girl.  Ring a bell?
If I'm not mistaken, I remember hearing Baz was on that show.
Perhaps that was a connection that brought her to GNR's attention???

Can't wait till Saturday night!!!   :peace:

I might have (2) GA tix available for tomorrow - if anyone wants them hit me up. They include fast pass lane voucher things to skip the GA line.

Portland, OR?  So, they are announcing more shows?  I hope they do that soon and that includes the Bay Area.

Ali

Baz was on Gilmore Girls.

I remember a picture of Axl with Taylor in Paris last year, not sure if he had met her before.

Yeah.

Same TV network, different show. Haven't seen either, but I did youtube a few clips of Baz singing karaoke. I think they had him covering Britney Spears or something.

they do have a little bit of space to add a couple shows, so it is possible. but i'm also wondering if Tommy just mis-spoke.

i just called SBC and the woman on the phone told me the set times are:

Opener - 8:45PM
Main act - 10:00PM

all i wanted was the opening act's set time. sounds like 8:45 is the earliest they will come on and assuming a 45 minute set, and at least 30 minutes for GnR's stage set-up, 10pm is probably the earliest GnR will start. i'm not expecting a 10pm start, but it sounds like that's the time to be in there by to play it safe and ensure i don't miss anything.

65 and sunny today! i'll be tailgating by 7pm.   :beer:

Weather.com says it's supposed to be about 50 throughout the GN'R set. 48 by 2AM, so I'm telling everyone I know to dress warm.

I'll be showing up earlier than originally planned due to out of the blue early start last night.

Song Request:  PLEASE PLAY BETTER AND SCRAPED!!!!!

lol it`s good how they keep everyone on there toes have a great time : ok:

See ya there Sandman!  While it will be in the mid 50's by nightfall, it's gonna feel like summer time!   :beer:
 :peace:
I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!

see you there! i just upgraded my tix to row 4, center stage (they released some tix and i called and called until they exchanged them for me).

Kev Money - i have new tix for you. i can e-mail them to you or meet you tonight. Let me know. Thanks!

Driving up from MD now ! Hoping for TWAT tonight !!!!!!!

I see higher chances for Scraped, but Ok, let's hope, i wanna hear it too.

Going to head out and grab some dinner, and then head to the show with my son.  Can't wait, going to be a blast...

LETS ALL HAVE A BLAST TONIGHT! :peace:

enjoy the show

if the opener goes on at 8:45
GNR will take the stage between 10:30 and 11:15pm

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Best concert ever, any band, EVER!!!

What a fucking show!  I actually liked The Pretty Reckless. The chick had a better voice than i expected. Not to mention she looked hot and had some nice stripperesque moves (my date thought she was pretty hot, too). It's funny that she was Cindy Lou Who -- apparently the parenting skills in Whoville are a bit suspect. After the opener, we got some shirts (the one i wanted -- with the image of Axl inside the GNR lettering -- was sold out in my size, so i got another one, and i got a shirt for my date. I was glad to see a lot of people buying merchandise), got some beers, took a leak (no line for the women's -- huge line for the men's. What's up with that?!?), she smoked a cigarette and then we headed back in. Not much of a wait at that point. Personally, i don't mind the wait at a GnR show, i actually like it. It's part of the experience for me. Got right up to the stage on Richard's side (but ended up seeing plenty of Axl, DJ and Bumblefoot up close, too, during the course of the night). The crowd was into it, looked like a pretty full house to me. Right from the start -- this band kicks ass! Axl sounded awesome -- i can't get over how great he sounds right now. How does he do it?!? And the band is on fire. Best GnR show i've ever seen! (which of course means the best show i've ever seen, period!) The girl I went with was with me in 2002 in Philly when the band was a no-show. We just started hanging out again so it was cool she was able to come along. She's seen a lot of bands, but never GnR. She fell in love with DJ right away (i knew she would). He was playing just a few feet in front of us numerous times and i swear she had an orgasm while he was playing. (I wouldn't be surprised if she was thinking of him later back at the hotel -- that's okay, i was with Taylor Momsen for a little while back at the room, myself). She thinks Richard might be Ron Wood's illegitimate son. She couldn't get over how incredible the band sounded -- and this chick goes to a lot of rock concerts. And after seeing them in Wilkes-Barre the previous Sunday, i set the bar pretty high for what she should expect. For an almost 3 hour show, she couldn't believe how quick it went by. They played a few different songs than in Wilkes-Barre, which was cool. And being on the other side of the stage made it different as well. I still can't believe i was as close as i was. Did anyone else notice the rings Axl was wearing? They were like Elvis rings! Still the coolest fucking rock star on the planet! Towards the end of the show, DJ threw one of his picks and i just blindly put my hand up. I felt the pick hit my palm, closed my hand around it. Unbelievable. I told the chick i was with she could have it. (I think that might have gotten me some bonus points later). A guy i work with brought his 2 sons. This guy's 50, his sons are 18 and 15. He was blown away. He said Axl knows how to fucking put on a big rock show. And this guy's been to a lot of big rock shows, going back to the 70s. Both his sons loved it -- his younger one said it was "beautiful".  On the way back to the car, i heard some blowhard saying "the band was awesome, but Axl wasn't very good". What fucking show was he at?!?! It took some restraint to not get into a discussion with that idiot. I got a shirt in the parking lot for 5 bucks and gave it to my date for her 13 year old son (he loves it). She said she would love for him to see a show like this one. Anyway, i'm gonna say again that was the best concert i've ever been to. This band has been my favorite band since "Appetite" came out and i just think they continue to get better as they evolve. Thank you, Axl, for continuing to do justice to the GnR name. The only bummer for me was when "Paradise City" started and i knew it was almost over. At least in Wilkes-Barre i knew i had another show lined up. Hopefully, between the word of mouth and the great reviews from this tour, the band will be back around, maybe some summer shows. (If not, i'll just have to travel to see them).

To everyone who still has shows to attend on this tour -- enjoy 'em, you lucky bastards!  :beer: