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Sebastian Bach claims that Slash and Duff picked the wrong guy in ?junkie? Weiland and that the band would still be together if he was the frontman

September 14, 2011

Sebastian Bach claims Velvet Revolver would still be together had they handed him the frontman role instead of choosing Scott Weiland.

The ex-Skid Row singer, now fronting a solo-band, was rumoured to be on the shortlist for the rock supergroup and he admits he did work with Slash and Duff McKagan on a handful of songs.

But Bach says a need to pay his bills took him away from the band and ultimately resulted in Weiland getting the gig.

Speaking to Sleaze Roxx Bach said: ?It wasn?t an audition (with Slash and Duff in Velvet Revolver). I didn?t walk in and sing some songs ? it wasn?t like that. I worked with them for a month or a little over.

?The guys gave me five songs with no vocals so I wrote lyrics and melodies and then we went into the studio to record it. So you see it was a little more than an audition. I still have those songs on my iPod.

?What happened was that I was in the play ?Jesus Christ Superstar?, on a national tour, they were paying me and Velvet Revolver was not. I had to take care of my family so I went on the road with ?Jesus Christ Superstar.?

?They chose Scott Weiland, so they put their faith in a heroin addict. How did that work out for them? I would put my faith in a drug addict alright! (laughs) I might drink a little bit of wine, and on occasion stain my teeth, but that?s it!

?Listen, if they had picked me we?d probably still be together right now. I?m a musician like them ? I?m not a junkie and not into that kind of thing. So they don?t have a singer and I have a new album. Let?s rock! (laughs).?

http://www.rockaaa.com/news/bach-velvet-revolver-should-have-picked-me-8632

who can lay his hands on Baz's iPod?  ;)

hahaha its hard to argue with what he said, it is the truth.  However im not sure VR would have been as popular without Scott, that brought 2 bands fan bases together.

They would not still be together. They would've flopped after the first record. You think Slash & Duff would allow their legendary reputation to be tarnished like that?

Funny.

Because playing with the Best Buy band is so much cooler?

And the whole VR soap opera hasn't done that?  ;)




/jarmo

Who cares if they'd have still been together with him singing? They would've sucked with him singing. The "more than an audition" was the actual audition process that they did with everyone they considered. It was an audition, Bas. Live with it.

Also, considering they're all addicts themselves, I don't think they're in any position to judge Scott.

Is there really any purpose in you coming on this part of the site? You troll your way through topics on here to get digs in on these guys the same way idiots who talk about Guns not being a real band because Axl is the only original left do. Give it a rest. You hate Slash. I think everyone gets that.

Nothing to see here.

I think they did just fine with Scott.

Set Me Free, Slither and Fall To Pieces were Huge hits and Contraband sold 2 million in the US and they won a grammy

Sebastian is one of my favorite frontmen of all time but I'm sure they have no regrets even if it ended bad with Scott.


Plus he completely contradicts himself.. He says they picked wrong singer but then goes on to act like it was he who turned them down to do Jesus Chris Superstar.... .Which was it?

Coming from Sebastian -- probably both. :hihi:

Jeez, Bas.  It sounds like a flippin' audition to me.  And they didn't pick ya'.  Get over yourself.   Seems like I remember a statement from someone, around that time, that they didn't pick him because it sounded like Skid Row meets GnR, something like that (I can't find the statement or who said it or exactly what it was, but it was that gist).

He's just jealous and holds a grudge because he wasn't chosen.  :hihi:

yeah I am big fan of Bach, but I would not have liked him in VR.  "Contraband" was a very exciting album, that really took the hard rock world by storm, the energy in those early shows was ridiculous!  Unfortunately they followed it up with that pile of shit "Libertad", which took the term "sophmore slump" to a whole new level.  I imagine anything they did with Bach would have been worse than that, Bach is a metal singer, always has been, since the Skid Row days, his style wouldnt have fit.  He should just stick to his solo records, cause they really rock.

Don't suppose anyone on here saw Baz in Jesus Christ Superstar??  I'm intrigued!

I wanted to come and give this board another chance.. Looks like Jarmo hasn't grown up at all lol.. Sad..

I'm lost. What's the Best Buy band?  ???

Slash, Duff, Gilby, Sorum, and a few other people got together last week for a charity gig in NYC.

I was confused by that, too... after all, it was Guns N' Roses who went into "partnership" with Best Buy to release an album.  ;)

Not sure what that charity gig had to do with Best Buy, but criticising musicians for playing a charity gig is pretty fucking low, even if you don't like them.

I believe that the Best Buy comment had to do with Velvet Revolver not being a real band but more a manufactured product created to sell records.  It didn't have anything to do with any recent benefit concert, it has to do with VR being contrived commercial music made up of members from two previously successful bands whose sole purpose is to squeeze a few more drops of cash out of the bands fan bases.  That was my interpretation of the comment, and I thought it was pretty funny because it is true to a certain degree, how else can you explain Libertad?

I honestly think they (well, Scott, Duff and Matt at least... Dave seemed to be going through the motions, and Slash sounded like he didn't give a shit at all) had the best intentions for Libertad. Other than She Builds Quick Machines, the music didn't seem as commercial as most of the stuff on Contraband. But whereas Contraband was commercial, it was also awesome. On Libertad they tried something a bit different, and failed (though there were some good tracks). I also believe that when they first formed the entire band was serious about it, doing something new together, etc. Slash included. You could tell on Contraband that they were hungry to make great music together again. I'd say it was the label who decided to market it as a manufactured product designed to drain some cash from the GN'R/STP legacies... but something happened when they went on the road with each other. I won't speculate as to what it is, but it became obvious that they weren't getting along with each other by the time they ended touring behind Contraband. And then in the end, the money was the only reason Slash and Scott was there. (Yeah, I think it's possible for Scott to only be there for the money and care about the music he produces whilst he's there).

Regardless of the intentions, though... bringing up Best Buy on a GN'R site to insult another band is a bit of a silly move.

No, Slash actually made an appearance with the Best Buy band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJKfzZZM5eA

I thought he meant the charity gig was the Best Buy band because it was held at the Best Buy Theater in NYC.

I get why Libertad is seen as disappointment, but that doesn't make it a cash grab by any means. It doesn't sound nearly as commercial to my ears as has been suggested. It doesn't sound like they were striving to have a similar sound to popular bands of today. If it was all about the money, they had the blueprint for success right in front of them with Contraband. They could have made part 2.

I wouldn't underestimate these guys egos. I don't think they have it in them to mail it in. I think they are very aware of their legacies, and wouldn't put out a subpar record just for the sake of money. I know Scott basically said as much, but even he sounds more inspired on the VR records than anything STP since '96. He also mentions wanting to prove he could succeed w/o Deleo bros, as I'm sure Slash and Duff wanted to do outside the GN'R umbrella. Don't underestimate the ego of a rockstar.

It's easy to knock someone like Slash who puts himself out there publicly.
People are different. The life of a recluse doesn't appeal to everyone.

GNR fans probably shouldn't shit on anything to do with Best Buy. We'd probably still be waiting for Chinese Democracy if they hadn't fallen on the sword.

oh wow I must have missed that one thanks!    It's hard to keep up with everyone Slash sells his soul to on a daily basis... :hihi:

Sound like Baz' is whining....disappointing.... :(

If it's accepted to assert and criticize that Slash plays and releases too much music, should we then also castigate those who play and release too little?

Man, you log in for the first time in forever to read a few topics (such as this one) and then that jarmo dude pops in for a few swipes by which I'm reminded why it's been so long. It truly has gotten old and stale, hasn't it? Kindergarten mentalities and god complexes all around.

Bach chose Jesus over Slash.  Classic!   :hihi:
Seriously, Bach would have been a better choice in my honest opinion.