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Title: Tommy mentions rehearsing GNR songs for Rio
Post by: sofine11 on September 01, 2011, 10:53:24 AM
Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Hello my peeps,

I?m completely stoked that my record is finally out there, and want to thank all of you who have bought it so far. For those of you looking for it on vinyl, there was a production snafu and it?s now looking like the LPs will hit stores in November, just in time for Christmas. In the meantime, it?s available digitally and on CD, and if your local record store isn?t carrying it, tell them that they can order it from Redeye Distribution.

Also, in case you haven?t heard, a portion of the money you spend on my record will go directly to the Timkatec Schools in Haiti. This photo shows a three-story building that was a two-story building when we went down there for their graduation in July of 2010. The third story was built with the money raised in the auction last year. I can?t begin to say tell you how good this makes me feel, and I can?t wait to contribute more and I encourage you to as well at Timkatec.org.

We had a great time playing shows we over the last month, and look forward to doing a whole lot more in the future. There were lot of bonuses along the way ? We had to re-order the CD twice because it kept selling out, we had a great in-store show at Main Street Music in Philly (I can?t wait to do more of those), and I met all sorts of nice people. I also figured out that as much as I want to play guitar on stage, it?s best that I stick to bass, as well as lay off the pizza and jellybeans.

After Hurricane Irene forced us to postpone the Providence and Boston shows, Tim, Jon, Emily and myself stocked up on survival supplies and came back to our house in upstate New York to weather the storm and started recording some new songs. It was my first time recording a whole band in my new digs. I am very stoked at how quickly and easily it was to work with these guys and we?ll definitely be doing a lot more of it in the new year.

Thats all for now. I?ve gotta get back to workin? up some GNR tunes for Rock in Rio. Whoa?stay tuned.

t


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: jarmo on September 01, 2011, 10:55:29 AM
I don't think he's hinting anything other than he's gonna rehearse GN'R songs for the tour that starts in Rio de Janeiro?




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Ali on September 01, 2011, 10:59:30 AM
I don't think he's hinting anything other than he's gonna rehearse GN'R songs for the tour that starts in Rio de Janeiro?




/jarmo
You're probably right. But, he said once on Twitter that at one point, they "worked up" a version of "Perfect Crime" in 2006. But, I'm probably engaging in some wishful thinking :)

Ali


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: sofine11 on September 01, 2011, 11:04:36 AM
I might be engaging in wishful thinking as well, but the "woah" after it seems to indicate that he's psyched about whatever they're cooking up.  But again, I may be looking into it too much.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Chinese Monopoly on September 01, 2011, 11:10:39 AM
"woah"

Wouldn?t that sensation be gripping you too if you were about to partake in such an event like Rock in Rio?

Bumblefoot also, during a stream, implicated rehearsals were imminent.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: jarmo on September 01, 2011, 11:12:51 AM
I think playing at Rock In Rio warrants a "Whoa"!

 :hihi:


The band hasn't played a show since December 2010, makes sense that they'll rehearse.





/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: HBK on September 01, 2011, 11:14:49 AM
Why people need new songs ?? We have..

TWAT, PROSTITUTE, SR, SCRAPED, CITR, IRS, BETTER, ITW, SORRY, TIL

This Song NEVER Play In RIR


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: jarmo on September 01, 2011, 11:44:06 AM
Why people need new songs ?? We have..

TWAT, PROSTITUTE, SR, SCRAPED, CITR, IRS, BETTER, ITW, SORRY, TIL

This Song NEVER Play In RIR


Out of those only Better, Sorry and This I Love were actually performed in Rio de Janeiro in 2010.

There Was A Time, Prostitute and Catcher In The Rye were not performed in Brazil or South America.

Scraped was only performed in Brasilia (on the whole South American tour).

I.R.S. was only performed in Sao Paulo (on the whole South American tour).

If The World was not performed in Rio de Janeiro.



/jarmo



Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: sofine11 on September 01, 2011, 11:48:01 AM
I dunno guys, I wouldn't rule a new song or two out just yet.  In the past, GNR's used their Rock In Rio shows to debut new songs like they did in 91 & 01.  

It's a BIG show, and I wouldn't be surprised if Axl had an Ace or two up his sleeve to make Rio 2011 that much more special.  We'll soon see...


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Ulises on September 01, 2011, 11:55:44 AM
To those who are keeping down the heat, let the fans dream about it.

Ok, I admit that some fans dreams about certainly things that when those things doesn't happens they get mad. They act like someone promised them something that nobody promised and when those things do not happen they start to throw shit everywhere.

But we are fans, we are not objective people that see Guns N' Roses only as a band. So, instead off shutting down every single hope that it grows on the fanbase try to understand that this is a FAN FORUM of Guns N' Roses. People excited about Guns, about every single rumour, is normal...it's not bad.  There's no need to "calm down" the fans and breaking their hopes the second after a rumour or something like that is posted.



Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: AxlReznor on September 01, 2011, 11:57:27 AM
I dunno guys, I wouldn't rule a new song or two out just yet.  In the past, GNR's used their Rock In Rio shows to debut new songs like they did in 91 & 01.  

It's a BIG show, and I wouldn't be surprised if Axl had an Ace or two up his sleeve to make Rio 2011 that much more special.  We'll soon see...


No one's ruling it out. But at the same time, we shouldn't potentially misinterpret comments made by the band members and get our hopes up. It'd be awesome if they debuted new material, but as I won't be there and no one has said that they'll definitely be playing new songs, I won't complain if they don't.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: AxlReznor on September 01, 2011, 12:01:21 PM
To those who are keeping down the heat, let the fans dream about it.

Ok, I admit that some fans dreams about certainly things that when those things doesn't happens they get mad. They act like someone promised them something that nobody promised and when those things do not happen they start to throw shit everywhere.

But we are fans, we are not objective people that see Guns N' Roses only as a band. So, instead off shutting down every single hope that it grows on the fanbase try to understand that this is a FAN FORUM of Guns N' Roses. People excited about Guns, about every single rumour, is normal...it's not bad.  There's no need to "calm down" the fans and breaking their hopes the second after a rumour or something like that is posted.



No... getting excited about something based on your own interpretation of a fairly innocent comment apparently about rehearsals is exactly the reason people "throw shit everywhere" when things didn't happen. It's best to keep the heat down until someone from the band confirms something and/or it actually happens.
There's the band making a return to a legendary festival that has been great for them in the past to get excited about... we don't need to invent new things. ;)


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: sofine11 on September 01, 2011, 12:02:45 PM
I dunno guys, I wouldn't rule a new song or two out just yet.  In the past, GNR's used their Rock In Rio shows to debut new songs like they did in 91 & 01.  

It's a BIG show, and I wouldn't be surprised if Axl had an Ace or two up his sleeve to make Rio 2011 that much more special.  We'll soon see...


No one's ruling it out. But at the same time, we shouldn't potentially misinterpret comments made by the band members and get our hopes up. It'd be awesome if they debuted new material, but as I won't be there and no one has said that they'll definitely be playing new songs, I won't complain if they don't.

Not getting my hopes up, I'm just saying that it would make sense for Tommy to be talking about new songs.  He's been in the band for 12 years.  I think he has Paradise City & Jungle down.  :hihi:

Rio will be awesome no matter what the setlist is.  I just think it would be an amazing medium to indtroduce a new song or two to the world, to show that the GNR road didnt end with Chinese Democracy and that there is, in fact, more to come.  


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: LunsJail on September 01, 2011, 12:04:00 PM
Also, working up some new songs doesn't mean they'll be in the setlist. Not to be a party pooper.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: jarmo on September 01, 2011, 12:06:06 PM
Dreaming is fine. No harm in that.

It's only when people start feeling "upset" or "let down" because their dream didn't come true that there is a problem.


I hope the fans who start campaigns for certain songs to be played at Rock In Rio or those who "expect" new songs to be premiered, for whatever reason they have, don't feel let down if it doesn't go as they dreamed.


It'll be a once in a lifetime experience no matter what. Enjoy it!




/jarmo


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Ulises on September 01, 2011, 12:10:59 PM
To those who are keeping down the heat, let the fans dream about it.

Ok, I admit that some fans dreams about certainly things that when those things doesn't happens they get mad. They act like someone promised them something that nobody promised and when those things do not happen they start to throw shit everywhere.

But we are fans, we are not objective people that see Guns N' Roses only as a band. So, instead off shutting down every single hope that it grows on the fanbase try to understand that this is a FAN FORUM of Guns N' Roses. People excited about Guns, about every single rumour, is normal...it's not bad.  There's no need to "calm down" the fans and breaking their hopes the second after a rumour or something like that is posted.



No... getting excited about something based on your own interpretation of a fairly innocent comment apparently about rehearsals is exactly the reason people "throw shit everywhere" when things didn't happen. It's best to keep the heat down until someone from the band confirms something and/or it actually happens.
There's the band making a return to a legendary festival that has been great for them in the past to get excited about... we don't need to invent new things. ;)

I understand and I'm with you. But...are we FANS or are we diplomatic people discussing about Guns in the UN? Why do we always be so "cold" about these things? Why do we have to be "careful" with all these things? Why? Will someone get mad with all our hopes? What's the deal? I do not understand. Let the people "dream" and think whatever they want. It seems some people LOVES to ruin every single expectation.

However, I hate all those who get mad when the things doesn't work out like THEY think they should work. I'm not talking about these kind of people though...


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Chinese Monopoly on September 01, 2011, 12:14:17 PM
I dunno guys, I wouldn't rule a new song or two out just yet. 

New songs of course, are always going to be a possibility (particularly as we know there is more material).

But ?working up some GN?R tunes for Rock in Rio? can be interpreted in more than one sense (merely rehearsing, altering existing songs etc.).






Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: sofine11 on September 01, 2011, 12:15:05 PM
Hoping GNR plays a certain song, new or otherwise, is harmless.  Speaking openly about those hopes is equally harmless.  

But I agree that throwing it in the bands face once it doesn't materialize, like they owed it to you, is borderline insane.  Thing is, not everyone falls into that category.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Ulises on September 01, 2011, 12:18:10 PM
Hoping GNR plays a certain song, new or otherwise, is harmless.  Speaking openly about those hopes is equally harmless.  

But I agree that throwing it in the bands face once it doesn't materialize, like they owed it to you, is borderline insane.  Thing is, not everyone falls into that category.

Exactly. I'm one of those who get pretty excited and have all this expectation but I won't insult Axl or anyone when those things doesn't happen. When I say "let the people dream about it", I'm talking about the people who thinks like you or me.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Chinese Monopoly on September 01, 2011, 12:21:29 PM
The problem is given the fickle nature of the fans ?hopes? multiply. ::)

I hope GN?R tour.

Now I hope they play new songs on the tour.

Now I?ve heard the songs live I want to hear the studio versions.

I?ve got an album, I want another.

I hope GN?R tour.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: sofine11 on September 01, 2011, 12:23:16 PM
Hoping GNR plays a certain song, new or otherwise, is harmless.  Speaking openly about those hopes is equally harmless.  

But I agree that throwing it in the bands face once it doesn't materialize, like they owed it to you, is borderline insane.  Thing is, not everyone falls into that category.

Exactly. I'm one of those who get pretty excited and have all this expectation but I won't insult Axl or anyone when those things doesn't happen. When I say "let the people dream about it", I'm talking about the people who thinks like you or me.

Right, and like I said, Rio is going to kick ass no matter what.  But whether some people like it or not, I am choosing to believe that they will most likely debut a new song(s) at Rio.  If it doesn't happen, I'll shrug, and enjoy the livefeed.  

Will I still buy tickets if they come to Chicago with a similar setlist?  You bet your ass.  See? Sane fan.  :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Chinese Monopoly on September 01, 2011, 12:36:50 PM
I am choosing to believe that they will most likely debut a new song(s) at Rio.

Nothing is ever ?most likely? regarding GN?R.

History, the media, comments etc. can?t determine exactly what will happen as things are continually subject to change.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: stvyrayvhn on September 01, 2011, 12:48:08 PM
I agree with Jarmo, I'm guessing rehearsals.  They haven't played these songs in almost 2 years... 


Here's hoping we get a new song though...  :beer:


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Spirit on September 01, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
I agree with Jarmo, I'm guessing rehearsals.  They haven't played these songs in almost 2 years... 

Uh... The last concert was December 16 of last year..


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on September 01, 2011, 01:04:29 PM
I agree with Jarmo, I'm guessing rehearsals.  They haven't played these songs in almost 2 years... 

Uh... The last concert was December 16 of last year..

It just seems ALOT longer :hihi:


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: HBK on September 01, 2011, 01:15:20 PM
Why people need new songs ?? We have..

TWAT, PROSTITUTE, SR, SCRAPED, CITR, IRS, BETTER, ITW, SORRY, TIL

This Song NEVER Play In RIR


Out of those only Better, Sorry and This I Love were actually performed in Rio de Janeiro in 2010.

There Was A Time, Prostitute and Catcher In The Rye were not performed in Brazil or South America.

Scraped was only performed in Brasilia (on the whole South American tour).

I.R.S. was only performed in Sao Paulo (on the whole South American tour).

If The World was not performed in Rio de Janeiro.



/jarmo



Never In ROCK IN RIO


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Jayster on September 01, 2011, 02:08:06 PM
it would be great if they played a new song, but either way GnR playing Rock in Rio is fantastic. hopefully they do TWAT at the show!


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: russtcb on September 01, 2011, 02:12:31 PM
Why people need new songs ?? We have..

TWAT, PROSTITUTE, SR, SCRAPED, CITR, IRS, BETTER, ITW, SORRY, TIL

This Song NEVER Play In RIR


Out of those only Better, Sorry and This I Love were actually performed in Rio de Janeiro in 2010.

There Was A Time, Prostitute and Catcher In The Rye were not performed in Brazil or South America.

Scraped was only performed in Brasilia (on the whole South American tour).

I.R.S. was only performed in Sao Paulo (on the whole South American tour).

If The World was not performed in Rio de Janeiro.



/jarmo



That's the point I was arguing on another forum. I saw them a handful of times since 2002 and while I've heard a bunch of the album live, there's still a lot of I haven't. I haven't heard Shacklers, Scraped, TIL, Catcher, Prostitute or Sorry live. Can't wait to hear them.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: rebelhipi on September 01, 2011, 02:13:33 PM
hey!
the fact is that no one knows nothing. lets just wait another 31 days and see what comes out


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Axlism on September 01, 2011, 02:31:33 PM
If I had to guess "workin' up some GnR songs" means hes writing a proposed set list. Maybe Axl has the band members each propose one, gets ideas from that, makes his final based on his and others thoughts.

Or maybe it means he's sitting in his place brushing up his chops for rehearsals.

The word 'new' was far too absent to assume anything else. But if there's gonna be an unleashed 'new' let it be ''Soul Monster''!


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Loaded NightraiN on September 01, 2011, 02:37:04 PM
^^He is The General of course.... Its his job to work this stuff up


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: sofine11 on September 01, 2011, 02:42:52 PM
If they are debuting a new song, it would make sense to keep it under wraps until the show.  I doubt he'd spell it out either way whether the GNR tunes he's "working up" are new or ones we know.

I will say that I think that whether or not new music is played at Rio will be very indicative as to whether the next album will come out in the near future.  I guess that's one of the reasons that a lot of fans are rooting for it.   Doesn't mean the next album won't ever come if they don't, only that chances are that it will come sooner if they do. 


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Axlism on September 01, 2011, 05:59:57 PM
Sofine, yes, I agree. I don't think anyone eluded to a hint of what song in his comment, but I agree it's 10 years since he unveiled Madagascar, etc. It's the place to do it for sure.

I don't think it would be indicative of a new release, though, and if so based on the theory it would be in 7 years.  :-\

I do think it would show as a great sign as Axl's inspired to unveil something new, period. I.e. ''more coming, I'm still working on new things, so soon!"


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: russtcb on September 01, 2011, 07:14:49 PM
Every member of the band has other musical things going besides GNR. I'm guessing that no matter how long you've been in GNR, when you're off for any length of time you'd need a bit to get back in the groove.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: westcoast_junkie on September 02, 2011, 01:43:21 AM
I had high hopes after reading that on Tommy's homepage to. But then I caught myself of thinking wishful  :hihi:

Don't have to mean anything else than reherse the songs he probably haven't been playing for almost a year.
We'll see in a month.

Anyway, it's fun being a part of this forum and analyze every comment made from a Gn'R member.  :yes:


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: GUNNER on September 02, 2011, 06:18:58 AM
Why people need new songs ?? We have..

TWAT, PROSTITUTE, SR, SCRAPED, CITR, IRS, BETTER, ITW, SORRY, TIL

This Song NEVER Play In RIR


Out of those only Better, Sorry and This I Love were actually performed in Rio de Janeiro in 2010.

There Was A Time, Prostitute and Catcher In The Rye were not performed in Brazil or South America.

Scraped was only performed in Brasilia (on the whole South American tour).

I.R.S. was only performed in Sao Paulo (on the whole South American tour).

If The World was not performed in Rio de Janeiro.



/jarmo



Never In ROCK IN RIO

They played IRS n' Better in RIR 2006.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: AxlReznor on September 02, 2011, 06:53:07 AM
Why people need new songs ?? We have..

TWAT, PROSTITUTE, SR, SCRAPED, CITR, IRS, BETTER, ITW, SORRY, TIL

This Song NEVER Play In RIR


Out of those only Better, Sorry and This I Love were actually performed in Rio de Janeiro in 2010.

There Was A Time, Prostitute and Catcher In The Rye were not performed in Brazil or South America.

Scraped was only performed in Brasilia (on the whole South American tour).

I.R.S. was only performed in Sao Paulo (on the whole South American tour).

If The World was not performed in Rio de Janeiro.



/jarmo



Never In ROCK IN RIO

They played IRS n' Better in RIR 2006.

Seeing as that was held in Lisbon, I don't really count it as Rock In Rio, myself.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: chramos on September 02, 2011, 08:04:38 AM
Playing "rare" new songs like Prostitute, Catcher and TWAT would be great! But last tour they did not sound that great... I think they stopped playing to work them out... maybe they?ll be ready now!  :beer:


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Stoned_In_L.A. on September 02, 2011, 09:04:58 AM
Did I miss where Tommy hinted this?



Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: HBK on September 02, 2011, 10:12:23 AM
Why people need new songs ?? We have..

TWAT, PROSTITUTE, SR, SCRAPED, CITR, IRS, BETTER, ITW, SORRY, TIL

This Song NEVER Play In RIR


Out of those only Better, Sorry and This I Love were actually performed in Rio de Janeiro in 2010.

There Was A Time, Prostitute and Catcher In The Rye were not performed in Brazil or South America.

Scraped was only performed in Brasilia (on the whole South American tour).

I.R.S. was only performed in Sao Paulo (on the whole South American tour).

If The World was not performed in Rio de Janeiro.



/jarmo



Never In ROCK IN RIO

They played IRS n' Better in RIR 2006.

Exact In Lisbon, Not Janeiro

 : ok:


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: estebanf on September 03, 2011, 12:43:28 AM
Real Rock In Rio Festivals are in Rio de Janeiro.

Guns N' Roses played that festival in 1991 and in 2001. 100% new songs were played in both ocassions. Fingers crossed for this 2011 edition.


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: D on September 03, 2011, 01:39:03 AM
Should really change the thread title.... he didn't remotely hint anything


Title: Re: Tommy hints new GNR songs for Rio?
Post by: Z?phyr on September 05, 2011, 07:28:47 AM
Hopes or not, it's never a good idea to twist someones words to fit your own, It's obvious he just said hes going to rehearse for the tour.
I watched a bumblefoot mixing session live on ustream last night and at one point B-foot said he will be flying out to LA for the rehearsals mid next week.
So I assume the rest of the guys will do as well ;-)

Oh and he played some ...

Cheers